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On March 08 2019 03:27 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On March 08 2019 03:25 Acrofales wrote:On March 08 2019 03:23 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 08 2019 03:18 Acrofales wrote:
I'm all polite and shit to everybody, btw. Unlike you. If you mean being aggressive towards... I'm pretty sure I'm being aggressive towards Holyflare, because I want to get him lynched. Not sure who else you mean tho. i just got told to not be a dick, and i am wayyyyy more polite this game than you or certain other people. i call shenanigans, fuck the hosts. The fact that you think that after half the thread told you to stop being abusive is.... You were quite rude to me and I was hurt. am i a mean person for laughing ?
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On March 08 2019 03:32 Tubesock wrote:
I don’t see a world we can swap off BH to kill much more likely mafia and not have HF get lynched.
I have two hours of useful consciousness, so if there’s any ideas I’m game. Good post
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On March 08 2019 03:45 Ace wrote:Show nested quote +On March 08 2019 03:20 Tubesock wrote:On March 08 2019 03:13 Ace wrote:On March 08 2019 03:11 Tubesock wrote:
Ace, if I think someone is faking their rage I doubt I could care less if they were mad at me too. If you think the rage is fake, then them not being fake mad at you for being on the wagon is my point. Unless you think they're terrible scum don't you see they'd at least go to the trouble, see you on the wagon they should be mad at, and try to push you as a suspect for that reason? If he’d have done that I probably would have thought it was less fake and maybe towned him for it. But he only went on about HF and called him stupid and retarded and whatever. He may have spoken about the electors once? Twice? Nothing compared to the vitriol he spewed at HF. And frankly I think we should punish that behavior. Stupid or mafia? So basically Acro was towning HF the entire time. Plus, my other point that seems you missed was that the rage he showed was more fitting if HF did that out of the blue, not been saying he would for 24+ odd hours. I didn't miss your other point in that post. Just only wanted to comment on that exchange and the what I saw as a missing conclusion. All good though 👌 Slimey
I like tubesock, but this reads like scum coaching scu
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On March 08 2019 03:50 Grackaroni wrote:Show nested quote +On March 08 2019 03:44 darthfoley wrote:On March 08 2019 03:41 darthfoley wrote:
so i have 75 pages to read... and i'm getting shoulder surgery tomorrow and my arm will be in a sling for a month.
I'll spend the next couple hours trying to make sense of this stuff and be useful for once. If you want to vig me, that might be ideal lol If there are major points of contention and/or stuff I should definitely read, please let me know. Otherwise i'll be just stream of consciousness posting as I catch up. Read the last few pages of my filter and Rayns filter and Mocsta's filter. Every one else is just back and forth between HF and BH. grack is town
this is actually a legitimately helpful comment and accurate reflection of game state
grack. i read a couple pages prior, you felt everyone was ignoring you.
if im around on d3, i will go through your shit
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On March 08 2019 03:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Holyflare last time; are you seriously stupid enough to not see Acrofales as mafia? it would be so funny if acro + rayn is mafia
rayn seems so legit here
can be he this headstrong as town. I would like to think so.
I dunno, just reading this made me reminisce when i have been scum and made a case on my scum buddy and noone believed it. And i almost got lynched for it, even though all the points were spot on.
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On March 08 2019 04:01 Tubesock wrote:Show nested quote +On March 08 2019 03:45 Acrofales wrote:On March 04 2019 23:45 Tubesock wrote:On March 04 2019 23:30 Palmar wrote:
go after mocsta -> threatens to kill himself
go after conversion -> leaves the game
I may have a problem. You’re not the problem. Neither is HF. ? If Palmar wasn't a problem then why was your vote to have him killed at this point? I actually dived into your filter to find where you strong townread HF... and I don't see it at all. You made up your mind HF was town at the start of the game based on... nothing? And your comment after nightfall was about me, not about HF at all. In fact, it's the post that is continuously quoted here that has the whole ramble about how wonderful it would have been if HF had killed scum!Palmar. Why are you townreading HF? It started with agreement on a semi long stream of posts. And other small things that he did that I doubt mafia HF would bother with. While I certainly will semi ignore someone I town from time to time, HF’s townread can disappear quite fast. I’m always watching what he does. I’ve been called contrarian many times. But I truly believe that him sticking to what he said he’d do (shoot Palmar) is far more likely to come from town HF. I do think MafiaHF would have never pushed Palmar and instead gone after one of the other prominent towns and killed them instead. Rayn he could have killed at the time as most were lukewarm on him at the time. Or whoever. I like your last point.
I have a different explanation. Its personal, but whatever.
HF wanted to win the the last mayor at all costs.
He exacerbated the divide of HF or Palmar by finding a reason to scum read Palmar, naturally, people should reconsider where their vote goes.
Unfortunately, this could be town or scum HF.
I will give it to you, that HF could be scum for teasing an alternative mayor lynch and chickened out - I know hes sought to debunk this via "mod PMs and thretening to modkill" but meh. WIFOM.
I dunno, the D2 emphasis on HF has felt quite real.
In particular the past 12hrs his tone has shifted dramatically. He actually does seem drained which lines up with what I would expect.
Acro did too, but seems to have rejuvenated a little quicker - that Im not sure what to make of.
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On March 08 2019 04:29 Oatsmaster wrote:
Let’s talk about this mason thing, seems fairly interesting.
Rels can you say exactly what you can do please?
Rsoul and rels, what have you guys been saying in there? scummy post
this goes no where other than feeding scum team info for nk selection.
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On March 08 2019 04:42 Tubesock wrote:Show nested quote +On March 08 2019 04:10 Oatsmaster wrote:
Mafia boi
If wriggles does the same thing as you in that his case on you can be applied to him, and you are town, doesn’t that mean he’s also town? How does it mean he’s mafia I never scumread him. So, it’s hilarious you are saying I’m scum for this, but apparently Wiggles is somehow town for doing exactly that. Take a look at my two posts: Show nested quote +On March 06 2019 18:52 Tubesock wrote:
Wiggles, you’ve been scumming me since before I even scummed Trfel. Yet you’ve never voted me. Why not? You seem pretty convinced, you have some others who agree. Think about what you say because I’m going to have great satisfaction copy and pasting things from your case on me in my defense. Then Show nested quote +On March 06 2019 21:47 Tubesock wrote:
Wiggles is funny to me. I feel like I can just take his case on me, and find/replace his name for mine and submit it with equal fervor. Plus we voted on both wagons so we can’t be too far off. Why do you think i wrote the big and bold?? It’s a fucking trap and you fell right into it. Oatsmaster didn’t bother to read anything more than the single post and looking for “reads” at the shallowest of levels. You went straight to Tube is mafia because of this “slip” you found. Yet you had no idea it was a trap and you fell into it!!! This action on your part is representative of your entire game. You are mafia. interesting
this needs to be explored in D3.
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On March 08 2019 04:50 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On March 08 2019 04:44 Blazinghand wrote:On March 08 2019 04:40 Oatsmaster wrote:On March 08 2019 03:50 Dandel Ion wrote:
Day Two Vote Count
Blazinghand (11): Mr. Wiggles, Rels, Holyflare, [UoN]Sentinel, rsoultin, AMG, Mocsta, LightningStrike, WaveofShadow, Tictock, Tubesock
Holyflare (9): Acrofales, Blazinghand, sicklucker, BloodyC0bbler, Vivax, Alakaslam, Oatsmaster, Fecalfeast, Ace
Ace (2): Jockmcplop, Tumblewood
rsoultin (1): Onegu
Acrofales (1): raynpelikoneet
[UoN]Sentinel (1): Grackaroni,
Damdred (1): Meapak_Ziphh
Not voting (4): Damdred, Chezinu, ExO_, darthfoley
Blazinghand is currently set to be lynched.
Please let us know if you notice any mistakes. The deadline is Friday, Mar 08 12:00am GMT (GMT+00:00), which is in . Any town people who aren’t on either BH or Holyflare are actively playing against their wincon btw? Not to say anything that would discourage people from voting HF (and thus saving me, who I know to be town) - but presumably some people strongly TR both me and HF. I'm sure there's scum in the 10 people not on either wagon, of course, but I could see someone having a reasonable reason here. I've certainly felt doubts about this HF wagon, and if I start townreading HF I'm going to move my vote off him. It really gets my goat if these poeple voting side votes aren't around at the end of the day though. Even if you TR both of us, presumably there's one you think is more town than the other... You don’t understand. Either you or holyflare is getting lynched today at this point, there’s nothing else strong enough. everyone town needs to lynch who they think is the least town or most mafia between the two of you. Lynches are the town’s power but if there is a significant amount of people off wagon then it becomes the mafia power because they have the numbers to manipulate it their favor. This is actually very anti-town
Oats has officially dipped into my red zone.
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On March 08 2019 05:07 Holyflare wrote:
[...]
You have misread the Exo post because that's not what it says at all. He says that Blazinghand, the person that he voted to lynch, looked like an innocent town guy campaigning for a better town. He lynched him while saying this. This is unequivocally scummy.
Yes, Ex0 should be lynched D3. Guaranteed scum with BH flip.
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On March 08 2019 05:23 Vivax wrote:
Honestly that wiggles case was made in a state of emotional distress. wtf is this shit
you were bandying about the N1
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n1 post post from marv/ksohi etc, when they were emotionally distressed
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On March 08 2019 05:55 Blazinghand wrote:Show nested quote +On March 08 2019 05:53 Holyflare wrote:On March 08 2019 05:51 Blazinghand wrote:On March 08 2019 05:48 Vivax wrote:
Looks like Ill have to vote BH then to ensure this isnt another fuckup day. so now that HF wagon is no longer in the lead, and the BH wagon is in the lead, you've swapped your vote from the HF wagon to the BH wagon to... what, exactly? So now that your only 2 points of why I'm mafia have been disproved by a lot of people in the game that aren't just me, why are you still voting me? You still shot Palmar. And to be honest I'm still voting you at this point because while I am only modestly sure you are scum based on your fakeclaim, you still have treated me in a way that only makes sense if you are a mega-asshole or if you are scum. Also, I know I'm town, and there's no wagon to be had on Ace or Exo. Even if I were 50%+ sure you are town (which I am not, btw) I'd still vote you in a situation where it's you or me. I get the feeling you realized there's a good chance I'm town a while ago, and you're still voting me, after all. And yeah, admitting this makes me look bad, but it's the truth. Man this made me chuckle so much. Much love BH
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On March 08 2019 10:41 kitaman27 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 08 2019 10:38 WaveofShadow wrote:
No but maybe somebody will bite off his ear. ![[image loading]](https://media.giphy.com/media/wWue0rCDOphOE/giphy.gif) is this appropriate from a host for a live player?
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On March 08 2019 10:43 Mocsta wrote:Show nested quote +On March 08 2019 10:41 kitaman27 wrote:On March 08 2019 10:38 WaveofShadow wrote:
No but maybe somebody will bite off his ear. is this appropriate from a host for a live player? like i get its last game.
but this makes me go there is no vig in the game.. so kita is free to luagh it off.
sigh.. oh well
carry on.
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On March 08 2019 05:59 Vivax wrote:
Seems lazy I know, but Im pretty happy with just judging him off his early posts alone. Today is scum vs scum and in that case making a third wagon is pointless. Another anti-town post.
Everything from vivax this cycle reads quite fake. Like hes trying to emulate this tunneled town persona.
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On March 08 2019 06:07 Ace wrote:
Hey guys - stop saying there's no chance you'll lynch HolyScum so you'll start another wagon. Just keep your vote on him and let the lynch go through
Focus! hmmm.. Ace
why did you dodge giving a read on acro like you committed to.
i gave you the info
Rayn followed it up.
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tumbleweed scum makes a lot of sense
and with ace
ace is in the qt telling the taem to shut up and let town self~implode
+ Show Spoiler [HF reads] +On March 08 2019 06:24 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On March 07 2019 05:12 Holyflare wrote:You may not like me in this game, you may think I'm mafia, you may think I'm town. None of those things do I care about. This is the information you have that is the most important thing in this game:
Trfel (11): Tubesock, sicklucker, [UoN]Sentinel, Koshi, Mr. Wiggles, Tumblewood, Fecalfeast, Jockmcplop, Acrofales, Vivax, Conversion
Blazinghand (10): Holyflare, Grackaroni, iamperfection, Oatsmaster, WaveOfShadow, raynpelikoneet, Trfel, rsoultin, ExO_, LightningStrike
Conversion (3): Mocsta, Alakaslam, darthfoley
Acrofales (2): Damdred, Tictock
iamperfection (2): BloodyC0bbler, Blazinghand
Koshi (1): Ace
Fecalfeast (1): Pandain
Grackaroni (1): Meapak_Ziphh
LightningStrike (1): Rels
[UoN]Sentinel (1): Chezinu
rsoultin (1): Onegu
Mr. Wiggles (1): Palmar
You had a vote on a guy that literally trolls for a mafia career telling us to lynch him and the vote was so close somehow that our doctor got lynched instead of him. That leaves some serious question marks hovering around, we have absolutely imperfect information that can easily be solved by either BH playing a game of mafia or lynching him and figuring it out. If you can think of any reason not to lynch this guy to further your information gain today please let me know. I'm mainly looking at: Tubesock, sicklucker, [UoN]Sentinel, Koshi, Mr. Wiggles, Tumblewood, Fecalfeast, Jockmcplop, Acrofales, Vivax, Conversion, Mocsta, Alakaslam, darthfoley, Damdred, Tictock, BloodyC0bbler, Ace, Meapak_Ziphh, Pandain, Rels, Chezinu, Onegu These people didn't vote for BH (didn't even realise Koshi didn't, what a travesty). I think it's best to look into them first because BH would have been such an easy no qualms mislynch if he was town I don't think there should be any hesitation to lynch him from them. Which is suspicious as to why they did not and instead afkd on really pointless wagons or Trfel. Tubesock: Voted Trfel, didn't give a read on BH, wasn't around at deadline. First Trfel voter. Says he would lynch conversion but prefers Trfel? Show nested quote +On March 04 2019 23:06 Tubesock wrote:
I like Koshi.
I prefer a Trfel lynch but would also be happy with a Conversion lynch. I’ll vote conversion to save acro.
Trfel is a better lynch. Since Tube was first on Trfel there wasn't a wagon then, so he voted Trfel over stated Conversion lynch (who did have people on that wagon(check this please)?) Hasn't ever mentioned BH or any lack of vig kill on BH?
Sicklucker Show nested quote +On March 05 2019 06:18 sicklucker wrote:
now i just gotta figure out my mayor. koshi whos gonna vig bh ill vote for that person I wanted to play with him for once but his filter is just antitown Show nested quote +On March 05 2019 07:28 sicklucker wrote:
but i am pushing this tref lynch over bh. its better if we get someone were more sure is mafia then a policy lynch. For all we know it could reduce mafia kp and powers. Its too early to policy lynch when thats potentially on the field.
policy lynch very bad
policy mafia kill very good Show nested quote +On March 05 2019 10:34 sicklucker wrote:On March 05 2019 10:21 WaveofShadow wrote:
Oh you fucking idiots.
You did it.
You blew it up.
[red] Holyflare
Rsoultin
Sentinel
Blazinghand[red/]
More when I get to a computer. im town reading you for this post. sentinal bh seem like locks honestly. I feel like bh wouldnt play this way as town and trying the too scummy to be scum strategy. He mods hundreds of games but decides to ruin game for his own town alignment? nah also he was the counter wagon to trfel and mafia usually defends him here. Rstoulin thought tref was scummy but ended on blazinghand so she might not be scum. other 3 ya Painful reading. Says BH is mafia, wants to lynch me today instead. Complains about hero vig's obviously not shooting BH and shooting another townie but then votes me instead. Wanted to lynch Trfel over BH. Says BH is pushing really obvious mafia things in thread but all he has on Trfel is: Show nested quote +On March 03 2019 08:04 sicklucker wrote:On March 03 2019 06:52 Trfel wrote:On March 03 2019 06:50 sicklucker wrote:On March 03 2019 06:46 Trfel wrote:
@sicklucker, why wouldn't you want to lynch rsoultin? Last I saw, you were just at maybe nah maybe nah?
@Holyflare, fair enough, I'll take a look. Thanks for letting me know. Ya i dont lynch my leaning towns in 60 player games... (sigh) WHYYYY is rsoultin a town lean for you Mafia. Or bad town . your so obviously pushing an agenda. Is it really that strange that i dont want to lynch rstoulin who i kind of town read over 40 people. This avenue of thought is very pointless. Any townie would just drop it Which doesn't really make sense in the slightest.
SentinelSaid trfel was scummy, most of his filter near deadline is arguing with Trfel. Says BH is a wasted lynch and defends that like 3 times. BH does his martyr and Sentinel says BH looks scummy. Just sticks on Trfel and backs up his reasoning when the deadline is already over: Show nested quote +On March 05 2019 09:00 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
My explanation of why Trfel is mafia:
1. Everything in my case still stands
2. His more recent case on me felt like a desperate sheep given how many holes were in it
Trfel is scum Show nested quote +On March 06 2019 10:15 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:Why does marv dying make BH scum? I'd give more of a read read due to + Show Spoiler +On March 05 2019 05:07 iamperfection wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2019 05:07 rsoultin wrote:On March 05 2019 05:04 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
Conversion seems more like busy townie with 1 scum read who tries to push that scum read as some sort of contribution to the thread rather than active scum lurker
If only because I've been busy with interviews as well ??? That's completely not my take. Vote bh On March 05 2019 05:08 iamperfection wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2019 05:07 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:On March 05 2019 05:05 Acrofales wrote:On March 05 2019 05:03 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:On March 05 2019 05:01 Acrofales wrote:On March 05 2019 05:00 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:On March 05 2019 04:54 Acrofales wrote:On March 05 2019 04:45 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
What's with the BH train? If you want to kill a hardcore lurker like that why not use the mayor lynch? I don't see the benefit Because BH is not your typical lurker. IMHO it's like foolishness or sandroba lurking. They hate playing scum, so just don't. Even assuming this is true the only way this makes sense is if we have absolutely no other candidates to lynch. BH has barely defended himself and he's barely posted in the thread which means we barely get any information when we learn his role except maybe who sheeped his vote. I'd rather lynch scum than "information". God, you're really trying to dig yourself into this hole, aren't you? :O No, you'd rather pick an easy lynch based off activity rather than trying to figure out who all the scum are. Lol. Hi pot. Here are my scumreads rn LS Damdred Tictock Trfel I'm fine with lynching any of the four and I want whoever I do lynch to say as much as they can before they die so that maybe I can learn something useful Vote bh On March 05 2019 05:25 iamperfection wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2019 05:24 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:On March 05 2019 05:23 Koshi wrote:
Tfrel rsoultin and BH need to go I can get behind the first one ##Unvote
##Vote: Trfel Vote bh On March 05 2019 05:48 iamperfection wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2019 05:47 Koshi wrote:
Voted iamp for mayor and tfrel for rip.
I only read into 10 people I think but I am happy. Vote bh On March 05 2019 06:13 iamperfection wrote:
My phone is gonna die vote bh On March 06 2019 03:11 iamperfection wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2019 02:59 Vivax wrote:
Basically he let BH off the hook way too easily for it to be town iamp.
"if BH doesn't get lynched TL mafia is ded"
to
'"Let's vote the guy who's going to kill Palmar" Why are you misrepresenting what happened. I screamed at every player in the game to vote bh. It's clear I'm town and you not being able to see that is extremely confusing as we've played a few games together. My play is basically the opposite of my scum play in this game Doesn't really weigh in on BH much other than this? Super afk guy at the moment.
Mr.WigglesShow nested quote +On March 05 2019 01:44 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
Managed to skim the thread before work. I like the Conversion case better than Acro and Oats right now for a D1 lynch. Missed the asking for permission angle the first time through, but even the recent stuff is weirdly fixated on MZ. Tunnel tunnel tunnel
No one else seems to give a crap about Tubesock. I'd be happier if people came out and argued I'm wrong for whatever reason, but instead Tube's being ignored by my town reads.
Will try to catch you again over lunch if possible, but otherwise won't be active until after lynch Wants Conversion dead, has said absolutely nothing about Trfel but then tells me this: Really out of the blue. Is voting for Trfel at the end too. Show nested quote +On March 05 2019 04:45 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
What's with the BH train? If you want to kill a hardcore lurker like that why not use the mayor lynch? I don't see the benefit Shits on BH train. Show nested quote +On March 05 2019 04:47 Mr. Wiggles wrote:On March 05 2019 04:45 Vivax wrote:
On another note, I'm going to vote Trfel and hope others see the light as well. Don't give a damn about lynching BH. It'd be what he wants and that's a reason not to do it. Did you change your mind about Conversion or is trfl a stronger read? Only cares about Conversion. After telling me to lynch Trfel he doesn't seem bothered Vivax is moving to trfel, if anything wants him to go for Conversion instead. Show nested quote +On March 05 2019 05:42 Mr. Wiggles wrote:On March 05 2019 05:33 rsoultin wrote:
I'm actually really down with murdering tube right now. Like I don't really like the fact that tube is conv's main (perhaps only?) sort of wishy-washy scumread but there's just absolutely nothing whatsoever there for tube but question after question after question before landing on acro for blah reasons that I've literally forgotten after just reading his filter lol >< When did tube go for Acro? Only saw the trfl push, which was a solo thing at first but picking up more steam now Show nested quote +On March 05 2019 06:00 Mr. Wiggles wrote:On March 05 2019 05:52 rsoultin wrote:On March 05 2019 05:42 Mr. Wiggles wrote:On March 05 2019 05:33 rsoultin wrote:
I'm actually really down with murdering tube right now. Like I don't really like the fact that tube is conv's main (perhaps only?) sort of wishy-washy scumread but there's just absolutely nothing whatsoever there for tube but question after question after question before landing on acro for blah reasons that I've literally forgotten after just reading his filter lol >< When did tube go for Acro? Only saw the trfl push, which was a solo thing at first but picking up more steam now Nah, you're right I'm just gonna blame doing three things at once. It was trfl, not acro. On March 04 2019 01:07 Tubesock wrote:
I’m voting Trfl. Maybe he will come play. ^ This post in particular gets me cause he says he's scumreading trfel earlier. Feels like an easy way to back off if truffle comes back. Definite lack of commitment from tube in the early game What do you think of trfel? That's what's throwing me off, because I'm not liking them too much either. Show nested quote +On March 05 2019 06:17 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
I'll consolidate onto trfel, feels better than Conv to me right now.
I read rsoul town for what it's worth No actual reasons for voting trfel other than "not liking them too much either", votes Trfel. Show nested quote +On March 05 2019 12:31 Mr. Wiggles wrote:On March 05 2019 12:23 WaveofShadow wrote:
Anyway, as much as tooting my own horn is super fun (man I was a goddamn all-star scum player---I think my winrate might have been better than HFs)---
I want to make this clear before I post a little on rsoul
We are lynching ONLY HF OR BH tomorrow.
The game can't proceed properly until that's done. Of those two, I'd rather HF die. Not sure if for personal/fun reasons or not, but whateva. I will not be pushing anyone else actively.
I'll be interested to see what you say about rsoul. Don't read her that way and would rather she doesn't catch a bullet. Hopefully someone takes care of BH tonight. I get that HF needs to flip too. =/ Suddenly says we should take care of BH tonight after not agreeing with his lynch D1 at all. Gives a reason to vote Trfel after he was lynched instead of before: Show nested quote +I was wrong about trfel, but their post about Fecalfeast looked really bad to me at that point in the day. There wasn't a wagon yet, so again, that could have been a mayor lynch. Once the wagon formed I hopped on. I agreed with the analysis and I felt Conv wasn't happening and felt bad about the interview stuff too He said nothing about BH at all other than the vig thing after saying he wasn't a good target and then suddenly today it's: Show nested quote +On March 07 2019 01:54 Mr. Wiggles wrote:On March 07 2019 01:42 WaveofShadow wrote:
I think this should be a goal for the day.
I want people to commit to something.
NOW.
Hey Wiggles, you're here, where's your vote going, buddeh? Let's kill BH. I'd rather see that flip than kill HF right now. He doesn't give good vibes with how he's playing. I'm OK sheeping this: On March 05 2019 05:06 iamperfection wrote:
Bh is unacceptable and he has had plenty of time to do something productive he is scum On March 05 2019 05:12 iamperfection wrote:
Kill bh he is full of crap he is scum On March 05 2019 06:13 iamperfection wrote:
My phone is gonna die vote bh Follow the reads that existed on the d1 wagon that he didn't like.
TumblewoodShow nested quote +Tumblewood wrote: On March 02 2019 13:48 Trfel wrote:
Show nested quote +
Sorry I'm not understanding, what specifically changed?
In other news, my reason to be suspicious of raynpelikoneet was completely wrong, whoops. Never mind me. i think he's town for the second part of this post. just feels very odd to post as mafia. that's it Called Trfel town!!!! Said nothing much of use for the first 2 pages of filter (of 4) Show nested quote +On March 05 2019 03:07 Tumblewood wrote:
no longer feeling acro lynch. gonna vote conversion. choo choo votes conversion just because why not Show nested quote +On March 05 2019 05:02 Tumblewood wrote:On March 05 2019 04:48 Trfel wrote:
Voting Palmar for mayor because of all of the mayors' targets I want to see [UoN]Sentinel lynched most. Him having a townread on himself while claiming to have not read his role PM is super suspicious, moreso the more I think about it. Other than his huge list post he hasn't shown much thought at all, he's been just following the thread sentiment. His overall play makes his effort seem fabricated. A few reasons being quoting my reasoning in one area while highly scumreading me in another, and more importantly not seeming at all invested in his reads. If he put all that effort into reading and making his scumreads, he wouldn't not actually push those reads and follow the thread sentiment like a headless chicken. It feels forced, and like he's trying to use the effort to prove he's town.
##Mayor Palmar this post feels as if you haven’t read in the last 50 pages but feel obligated to have at least 1 Informed Scum Read anyway says trfel hasn't really read much and needs to have a scum read Show nested quote +On March 05 2019 05:05 Tumblewood wrote:On March 05 2019 04:56 Blazinghand wrote:On March 05 2019 04:45 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
What's with the BH train? If you want to kill a hardcore lurker like that why not use the mayor lynch? I don't see the benefit This would probably be a better approach, but I think people won't feel comfortable that I'll actually die unless I get voted to die. A mayor might chicken out at the last moment and use the free lynch on someone else. oh wow this is bad. ooh aah wow says bh is bad, looks a lot worse than his hate for trfel post Show nested quote +On March 05 2019 06:58 Tumblewood wrote:
like. you know what i dig. iamp as mayor (unless we could realistically pull of koshi, or fuck it, me). and then we lynch conv, trfel, grack, maaaybbe tube, BH, exo. and the mayor does good stuff iamp wants to lynch bh as his policy Show nested quote +On March 06 2019 10:57 Tumblewood wrote:On March 06 2019 10:54 Grackaroni wrote:
Tumble thoughts on HF/Rayn rayn slightly town and HF slightly mafia Show nested quote +On March 08 2019 01:36 Tumblewood wrote:On March 08 2019 01:33 rsoultin wrote:
Unfortunately he's tunneled in a town!Viva way. Such is life lol ><
Though it would be nice to be wrong about that xD Doubt it. i am just uncomfy about these “stay the course” posts. we are >7 hours out and many of them came while HF was still clearly the biggest wagon. HF isn’t even thaaat townie but the way vivax and ace are acting about his lynch feels a little over-the-top no change in between for me, no mention of BH ever again that I can see and now is voting Ace????????? the fuck is this filter, it's so scummy
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On March 08 2019 07:28 Ace wrote:Show nested quote +On March 08 2019 07:05 WaveofShadow wrote:On March 08 2019 06:55 WaveofShadow wrote:On March 08 2019 06:47 Holyflare wrote:On March 08 2019 06:17 WaveofShadow wrote:
Good lord I actually hate the entire list of people on the BH wagon.
Hf, thoughts? Who specifically do you hate on the BH wagon? I feel overwhelmingly the opposite. Wiggles/exo/rsoul/amg/sentinel Haven't looked into the 'T' s much Holyfield Im waiting Who do you feel the same about? Dude his name is Holyflare show some respect fuck me. impeccable timing again. lol
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hmmm anotehr guy to suss out on d3
the perfect info point is interesting. When i had my come back came 12months ago, i relished to defend you when the town was against you.
thats how i got caugth, cos i had teh last minute vote flip and rels was like WTF.
+ Show Spoiler [HF on jock] +On March 08 2019 07:45 Holyflare wrote:Guess I'll get one with my reads thing: JockmcplopShow nested quote +On March 04 2019 22:23 Jockmcplop wrote:On March 04 2019 22:17 Mocsta wrote:
hmmm. Im not keen on my unvote. I didnt have a problem with oats, and hes now 2nd wagon.
acro - you were iffy on trfel. you still prefer oats > trfel? I don't have a read on trfel. I can probably be convinced to switch if there's a good reason. I really don't like the idea of lynching acrofales. No read on Trfel Show nested quote +On March 05 2019 07:36 Jockmcplop wrote:
I've been keeping up but not posting.
Shouldn't trfel be here defending himself if he's scum instead of that 'take it or leave it' bullshit? Essentially gives a reason for Trfel not to be scum Show nested quote +On March 05 2019 07:56 Jockmcplop wrote:
I'm voting trfel because so many people have reads on him and I'm not sure what's going on with BH at all. This vote doesn't make sense in the slightest. He doesn't have a read on Trfel, says a reason for him not to be mafia and votes Trfel because other people have reads on him. Town reads me at some point. No mention of BH No mention of BH No mention of BH Show nested quote +
When it comes to the trfel vote I was mostly concerned with making sure acro didn't get voted out as he's definitely town and useful. I wanted to get on a wagon and BH seemed like an interesting guy to keep around which was enough to go on for what was basically a coinflip.
BH was kept alive because he was interesting but BH never featured in any reads list he posted. Show nested quote +On March 06 2019 18:34 Jockmcplop wrote:On March 06 2019 18:27 Blazinghand wrote:On March 06 2019 17:24 Holyflare wrote:
BH who is just sitting there with the most information in the game about his wagon and instead he's still just repeating to kill him. A) I actually have not asked to be lynched today B) the only extra information I have is that I'm town, and presumably people fall into two categories: 1) people who think I am town and so have just as much information as I do 2) people who think I am scum, and i'm not sure i'd convince such people that I have "more information" than them just by asserting I am town Are you going to start engaging properly with the game now? FWIW I think you're town. Do you have any reads other than hf? What's your thinking on ace? Thinks BH is town with nothing in between? Show nested quote +On March 07 2019 18:07 Jockmcplop wrote:On March 07 2019 18:07 Blazinghand wrote:On March 07 2019 18:04 Holyflare wrote:
BH you have an uncanny knack to sound disingenuous with everything you write. How do you do it? A few days ago I gave up on trying to sound town and just write what I want to write. It's a lot of fun! Why were you trying to sound town? Show nested quote +On March 07 2019 18:11 Jockmcplop wrote:On March 07 2019 18:10 Blazinghand wrote:On March 07 2019 18:07 Jockmcplop wrote:On March 07 2019 18:07 Blazinghand wrote:On March 07 2019 18:04 Holyflare wrote:
BH you have an uncanny knack to sound disingenuous with everything you write. How do you do it? A few days ago I gave up on trying to sound town and just write what I want to write. It's a lot of fun! Why were you trying to sound town? I'm always trying to sound town. If you're scum, you do it so you don't get lynched, which allows you to win the game. If you're town, you do it so you don't get lynched, which allows you to win the game, and also so you can build cred and convince other townies to vote the scum that you find. A t all times you should focus, in addition to hunting scum, on looking town, regardless of alignment. So why did you stop trying to sound town? Show nested quote +On March 07 2019 18:22 Jockmcplop wrote:On March 07 2019 18:18 Blazinghand wrote:
On top of all that, After spending 24 hours D1 and all of N1 trying to get lynched and shot, it didn't happen. And if it won't happen when I'm actively trying to make it happen, it's not happening. So, there's really no reason to avoid saying things that might get misunderstood and lead people to think I'm scum. who cares? None of you are going to pull together a group big enough that it's going to lynch me anyways. So... I'm free. I can post what I want. I don't have to stop and think about what will build cred, because I have none. I don't have to carefully maneuver to avoid scum trapping me into getting lynched, because as we've seen, it's impossible to lynch me. I've transcended this game. I am beyond suspicion. People just don't want to lynch me, so why should I defend myself? Why should I worry about my appearance, or any pressure anyone puts on me? Feh. I'll analyze what I want to analyze and do what I want, and see if I can find some scum. I'm cursed to play out this game for my hubris, trapped, never lynched, vigied, or nked, no matter what I try. So... I might as well play, and fuck caring about what I look like This is kind of what I was getting at. That would be a ballsy play to make as scum particularly. Questions BH, says it's a ballsy play as scum and then: Show nested quote +On March 07 2019 22:32 Jockmcplop wrote:I'm leaning heavily towards a scum read on BH right now. The more he posts the more scummy his motivations seem to be. His attacks on hf look as if he has made them up on the spot in an effort to try and paint hf as mafia, rather than coming to natural conclusions about hf from available evidence. The best example of this is the following post: On March 06 2019 09:38 Blazinghand wrote:
HF why did you claim a shot on me?
Here's a theory as to why HF did this. It is because he is scum.
In the Scum QT:
Holyflare: Hey guys, the deadline is coming up. We know a vigi is going to shoot Blazinghand, and then probably claim after the daypost.
Other Scums: yeah, sounds accurate to me.
Holyflare: then Blazinghand will flip town, and i'm going to look real bad.
Other Scums: oh no!
Holyflare: ok, but here's the plan. I'm going to, right before the end of the night, with second on the clock, claim that I'm the vigi and am shooting BH.
Other Scums: why would you do this HF? we're not shooting BH...
Holflare: see, a vigi is going to shoot Blazinghand, and I will get autolynched D2 unless I can pose as the vigi who shot him. This will allow me to get in one more mislynch, as people will trust me. If the real vigi counterclaims, that's still a better situation than if I never claimed in the first place and just let myself get autolynched.
Other Scums: good idea
Then, for some reason, I didn't get shot, and now HF has to just pretend he never claimed he was shooting me This is pure speculation and I like how creative it is, but it is not evidence. He then refers back to this as 'compelling' a few posts later, but as we can see it isn't compelling its a rather badly shoehorned piece of fiction, designed to create an mirage. On March 06 2019 18:31 Blazinghand wrote:Whatever the particulars of the bad Palmar scumread, I still think this is easily the most compelling reason for the HF scum case: On March 06 2019 09:38 Blazinghand wrote:
HF why did you claim a shot on me?
Here's a theory as to why HF did this. It is because he is scum.
In the Scum QT:
Holyflare: Hey guys, the deadline is coming up. We know a vigi is going to shoot Blazinghand, and then probably claim after the daypost.
Other Scums: yeah, sounds accurate to me.
Holyflare: then Blazinghand will flip town, and i'm going to look real bad.
Other Scums: oh no!
Holyflare: ok, but here's the plan. I'm going to, right before the end of the night, with second on the clock, claim that I'm the vigi and am shooting BH.
Other Scums: why would you do this HF? we're not shooting BH...
Holflare: see, a vigi is going to shoot Blazinghand, and I will get autolynched D2 unless I can pose as the vigi who shot him. This will allow me to get in one more mislynch, as people will trust me. If the real vigi counterclaims, that's still a better situation than if I never claimed in the first place and just let myself get autolynched.
Other Scums: good idea
Then, for some reason, I didn't get shot, and now HF has to just pretend he never claimed he was shooting me HF has largely abandoned his provably false ideas of "well, I couldn't change the mayor lynch" given the way the mayor lynch is received mechanically and the fact he was in thread and watched and commented on the shenannnies as they went down. Just for killing Palmar is he scum? eh, maybe not. But for lying about it, then slithering away from the lie when called out? oh yeah baby scum reads BH don't get me wrong, it's all true but it still seems a bit of a weird 180 when BH hasn't done anything new that he hadn't been already doing Show nested quote +On March 07 2019 22:41 Jockmcplop wrote:On March 07 2019 22:37 Acrofales wrote:On March 07 2019 22:32 Jockmcplop wrote:I'm leaning heavily towards a scum read on BH right now. The more he posts the more scummy his motivations seem to be. His attacks on hf look as if he has made them up on the spot in an effort to try and paint hf as mafia, rather than coming to natural conclusions about hf from available evidence. The best example of this is the following post: On March 06 2019 09:38 Blazinghand wrote:
HF why did you claim a shot on me?
Here's a theory as to why HF did this. It is because he is scum.
In the Scum QT:
Holyflare: Hey guys, the deadline is coming up. We know a vigi is going to shoot Blazinghand, and then probably claim after the daypost.
Other Scums: yeah, sounds accurate to me.
Holyflare: then Blazinghand will flip town, and i'm going to look real bad.
Other Scums: oh no!
Holyflare: ok, but here's the plan. I'm going to, right before the end of the night, with second on the clock, claim that I'm the vigi and am shooting BH.
Other Scums: why would you do this HF? we're not shooting BH...
Holflare: see, a vigi is going to shoot Blazinghand, and I will get autolynched D2 unless I can pose as the vigi who shot him. This will allow me to get in one more mislynch, as people will trust me. If the real vigi counterclaims, that's still a better situation than if I never claimed in the first place and just let myself get autolynched.
Other Scums: good idea
Then, for some reason, I didn't get shot, and now HF has to just pretend he never claimed he was shooting me This is pure speculation and I like how creative it is, but it is not evidence. He then refers back to this as 'compelling' a few posts later, but as we can see it isn't compelling its a rather badly shoehorned piece of fiction, designed to create an mirage. On March 06 2019 18:31 Blazinghand wrote:Whatever the particulars of the bad Palmar scumread, I still think this is easily the most compelling reason for the HF scum case: On March 06 2019 09:38 Blazinghand wrote:
HF why did you claim a shot on me?
Here's a theory as to why HF did this. It is because he is scum.
In the Scum QT:
Holyflare: Hey guys, the deadline is coming up. We know a vigi is going to shoot Blazinghand, and then probably claim after the daypost.
Other Scums: yeah, sounds accurate to me.
Holyflare: then Blazinghand will flip town, and i'm going to look real bad.
Other Scums: oh no!
Holyflare: ok, but here's the plan. I'm going to, right before the end of the night, with second on the clock, claim that I'm the vigi and am shooting BH.
Other Scums: why would you do this HF? we're not shooting BH...
Holflare: see, a vigi is going to shoot Blazinghand, and I will get autolynched D2 unless I can pose as the vigi who shot him. This will allow me to get in one more mislynch, as people will trust me. If the real vigi counterclaims, that's still a better situation than if I never claimed in the first place and just let myself get autolynched.
Other Scums: good idea
Then, for some reason, I didn't get shot, and now HF has to just pretend he never claimed he was shooting me HF has largely abandoned his provably false ideas of "well, I couldn't change the mayor lynch" given the way the mayor lynch is received mechanically and the fact he was in thread and watched and commented on the shenannnies as they went down. Just for killing Palmar is he scum? eh, maybe not. But for lying about it, then slithering away from the lie when called out? oh yeah baby Ok, so what is the point of town!HF to claim a fake vig shot? I didn't incorporate it in my case, because it's mostly wifom, but I really don't see it: 1. He made a big play and it backfired spectacularly. 2. He makes another big play just for shit and giggles? WTF? Now, lets say BH had gotten vig'd. We'd have a townie counterclaiming the vig shot, and today would have been an even bigger shitshow. Lynch all liars is a damned good policy for a reason, because even if townies *do* do this kind of stupid shit, it is blatantly anti-town play. And the *second* time HF does a big anti-town play in the same damn game. That's true, but doesn't say anything about the point I am making. This story BH is telling is meaningless, as if he needed something completely made up to emphasize his argument for some reason. Also, if we are lynching people for anti-town play, what about the whole of D1/N1 from BH? Blatant anti-town play that has no upside or no possible upside for town. seems like a pretty big scum read on BH Show nested quote +On March 08 2019 01:50 Jockmcplop wrote:On March 08 2019 01:17 rsoultin wrote:
Actually, if we're looking for people over-justifying votes I'd say Jock qualifies. Caveat is I think he was planning on looking into BH earlier. I've said that since I voted for trfel on the first night. I wanted to see more from BH to see what he's all about. I have done, but I still don't know who to vote for tonight so I'm keeping an eye out. Ace is still a good candidate... turning up with his one word replies pointing out other people's mistakes while keeping his mouth pretty much shut about everything. but then says he doesn't know who to vote for and maybe vote for Ace?????????? (who is also another good pick for mafia but it's just a weird thought process when you think BH is mafia???) Conclusion: Says a lot of stuff that appeals to me but it's his first game, he's got a 100% town read on me after meta reading?????? (read his filter with regards to me and thinking my alignment is town through the read and you'll become suspicious) and scum reads BH and is unsure of who to vote? Honestly if you read his filter it looks like he's playing with perfect info and knows alignments of people when he talks about them but I feel bad because he's also defending me and I like the guy.
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