EPTI've basically got Acro, Vivax and Ace as town now, and 2/3 at least of those want to see me hang.
It's gonna be a hard day for your faithful host.
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I've basically got Acro, Vivax and Ace as town now, and 2/3 at least of those want to see me hang. It's gonna be a hard day for your faithful host. | ||
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On March 09 2019 20:02 Vivax wrote: A wrong assumption from believing mocstas claim that he saw him N1 on BC. Then I remembered TW claimed the shot on him. Idk maybe ace even is 3p, but in that case he has to die either way. Can you explain your thing about Ace to me? I don't realyl see it in your filter, it looks like it came out starting in this cycle? I don't believe he's a correct lynch for today. Are you following mocsta's case or some other thing? I forgot I like mocsta yesterday too. How are we at 24 people, it feels like there's basically 8 of us playing the game | ||
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On March 09 2019 20:14 LightningStrike wrote: Dear faithful host: The game is hard and we trying our best but the game is a mess. Do have some faith in us as we try to solve the game. Sincerely: LS Thank you dear listener. We appreciate your kind feedback. This is despite that we don't know what to make of you because of the weird meta reasons. At least you're not the scummiest. P.S. Let's try to lynch scum today | ||
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Is it based on a list of lurkers that you're just given, or were you told the criteria for inclusion on the list? | ||
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On March 10 2019 09:57 Chezinu wrote: ##Vote sicklucker What's happening my brooding brown brother? I think it's time to confess about that evil living inside of you. | ||
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 C was a mix of HF and Chezinu and had some darkness in them. HF flipped green, so does that make you the darkness? btw, the new C is LightningStrike. Think it's time for them to take up the mantle? | ||
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On March 06 2019 13:56 Chezinu wrote: I'm going with the I die you die tactic. It is great to have ammunition against the mafia so that they don't kill ya!!! Is this about to turn into a hostage negotiation? | ||
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On March 10 2019 10:35 Chezinu wrote: It's a reference in this game where Ace was mafia: https://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/105463-mini-mafia-2 This gave me a good laugh. Read from the bottom up: On January 11 2010 14:32 Chezinu wrote: Behold pm's I had with Ace To: Ace [ Profile | Buddy ] Subject: Re: T-R-U-S-T Date: 1/9/10 14:41 Faith > logic when dealing with Chezinu's craziness! ----------------------------------------- Original Message: not in a game of Mafia ----------------------------------------- Original Message: Faith > logic ----------------------------------------- Original Message: no logic > emotion ----------------------------------------- Original Message: Emotion > logic? | ||
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On March 11 2019 03:53 LightningStrike wrote: So why is Wiggle keeping his vote on Tube when we got 2 close wagons atm? Your host's vote on Tubesock was made because we want to lynch scum. The fact that TS has gone AFK is starting to put us off a bit like with Chezinu yesterday, but we believe our previous read is solid. Here is our collection of past Dead Zone Show clips where we talk about Tubesock: + Show Spoiler [Dead Zone Show Archives] + On March 04 2019 05:49 Mr. Wiggles wrote: What do you think of Tubesock's deflection of my pressure earlier in the game? I asked for some kind of read, and instead got an answer of "later". I responded to their own questions and was ignored when they returned to the thread. Their posting has been very non-committal, and they still haven't really pushed a lynch target yet. The pressure votes don't come out and say, "I think this guy is scum", but are hedged as an activity motivator. On March 06 2019 11:28 Mr. Wiggles wrote: Tubesock fell off the face of the earth. Still scum though. Got to pressure vote trfel near the start of the day and park the vote because the rest of us ran with a case. No posting into D2 means no pressure from the lynch fallout. Pushed the Palmar is scum thing early without needing to commit hard on it or later comment on HF's announcement of a Palmar lynch. We've only gotten two reads out of TS on trfel and conversion and they've both flipped now. Besides that we have zero information on where their head's at, scum-hunting wise. Lurking without offering anything to town. On March 07 2019 12:54 Mr. Wiggles wrote: Our dedicated fan Oatsmaster also writes in: This is a funny point that was missed on my first read through. If Tubesock thinks my play looks the same as what I've been pointing out in his, then he should probably read me similarly to his own alignment. If he thinks that makes me look like mafia, that's probably that scum guilt eating him up inside. Oats didn't let that slip slip his attention. Bravo! On March 09 2019 19:49 Mr. Wiggles wrote: Acro writes in some thing about us having a weird interaction ewith Tubesock. We say that the distinction here is that Tubesock thinks that your faithful host's behaviour is similar to his own, but we do not agreee with that. We see TS as lacking in scum hunting or professing reads. It's D3 and we have only a faint idea of what the gentlyeperson in question actually thjinks. As town that's a pretyy big WTF. There's no reason to lay low and keep your cards close to your chest at this point. We're playing mafia, not poker. Seems way more likely to be scum motivated as not contributing reads or solving the game allows you to not get caught in a contradiction or take pressure for your views lqter on. You might take heat for not helping town out (like I've been trying to do to TS) but otherwise you can keep laying low and hope town passes over your redness. So for Acro's point, I don't see our play as the same. That's why I can say that Ts' thing about replacing me with him in my case makes him scum. He supposedly agrees that the main thrust of what I wrote points to scum, but tries to undermine it by sayoing it could point to me as well. I don't think our play is the same, so I don't believe you can honestly do the replacement. In that case, he's just saying that his own play is scummy, but that I shouldn't gibe him crap for it since he thinks I'm doing the same, which I'm not. Voting this guy to die If we're looking to kill scummy lurkers, I think TS should be the #1 choice. I implore my listeners to follow my lead and vote to kill this guy. If not, they can at least argue why I'm wrong. We have also take some time to analyse the recent motion put forward by Liquidia Town Council to execute a warrant for Ace's arrest and subsequent execution. Based on Ace's behaviour, we do not find him particularly likely to be scum. Ace's posts show that he is indeed analysing the game with the goal of solving it. This host feels that Ace is taking a lot of flak for the culture clash he induces by playing within the new Liquidia meta. Ace plays some stuff according to a different style but then is using this to inform his reads. A perfect example of this is BC, where BC plays according to what Ace considers good town play, and so becomes a town read. The problem with this is that most of the rest of the thread spurns this type of play and so it probably throws off Ace's reads and then that portion of the town thinks he's scum because it doesn't jive with their own notions of what constitutes town play. I was around for the sort of transitional period where the game here changed from the old 2010 style to the newer more conversational/emotional/meta heavy style. As such, I can see where both sides of the players are coming from, and can also see that it's causing scum reads because of clashes in expected play. We have also thought some more about local insane asylum escapee, Chezinu. Having graduated from proselytising on the street to making death threats against esteemed members of the town, he offers an interesting conundrum to solve. We're beginning to think he's more likely to be scum due to his reaction to the pressure placed upon him. Rather than picking up and starting to solve the game as he said he would, he instead placed his efforts into vague threats and claims at wielding a higher power. We can see where this was said earlier: On March 05 2019 16:57 Chezinu wrote: You know... have a 3 day Day 1 has really thrown off my trolling schedule. I'm use to starting to play serious at this time before getting lynch. This is when the mafia usually push for me for not making sense. Town usually gets frustrated with me a little bit too. I then start playing and proving my townieness. But it's only night 1 now instead of day 2. It's like subconsciously I've learned the boundaries of trolling this game in this forum.... It all makes sense now! Rayn! You are a genius! I haven't seen too much of Chezinu proving their townie-ness, but have seen vague threats, weird soft claims, and some higher order meta thrown out. When we publicly questioned Chezinu on the show, it was only a short time before a letter containing a bomb threat was mailed in. Along with the letter was the following cassette tape. We must warn you, this tape contains disturbing content which may upset some of you fine citizens: + Show Spoiler [Disturbing Content] + Altogether, this is enough that I'll vote for Chezinu closer to the deadline if I need to save Ace, but I'd rather we kill Tubesock. | ||
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On March 11 2019 05:11 Rels wrote: I love the radio show  So the case against TS isbasically inactivity and hyprocrisy? Town can also do those 2 things so I don't find that very strong We believe this is a mischaracterisation of the case. If we had to put it in bullet points, it would be the following:
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On March 11 2019 05:18 Rels wrote: I think he would have been very happy if a vig shot was wasted on HF instead of hitting a lynchbait like Damdred or another scum like BC. Him calling for a vig doesn't change my points about him HF seemed like much stronger lynch bait than someone like Damdred. Going into D2 HF was public enemy number one for a lot of people. N2, scum killed a couple of the people defending HF who had stronger town reads on them. For scum that could have been a setup to try to push the HF lynch again on D3. I don't think it would have been hard for them to push the WIFOM perspective to the people who started to call HF town because of the flips. Pandain came in with their shot before anyone did that though. If Pandain hadn't shot HF, this would have probably turned into another HF vs counter-lynch day. Given this, it sounded like Ace was off the lynch HF train into D3 (though based on the theoretical existence of a cop?), so I think that gives him some more town cred. I would have expected a scum Ace to continue the HF tunnel and argue the WIFOM thing. Scum Ace doesn't come in and say he thinks HF got checked town by a cop before going back to continue a HF tunnel. Overall, I think scum were trying to set up another lynch HF day and Pandain screwed it up. Ace had come off the lynch HF wagon before the shot, so that looks good for him. | ||
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The hosts of the Dead Zone Show endorse the campaign to leave Ace alone. They urge you to read TS and make up your own mind. Ideally you come to your senses and we can get a wagon off the ground. | ||
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