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On March 16 2019 18:48 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On March 16 2019 18:14 Acrofales wrote:On March 16 2019 12:58 Mocsta wrote:On March 09 2019 06:53 rsoultin wrote:
Lol >< yay for reads lists! \o/
LightningStrike
Vivax
Holyflare
Acrofales
Raynpelikoneet
Mocsta
Wave of Shadow
Grackaroni
sicklucker
Oatsmaster - impression reads aren't advancing but not sure this will hold up after the filter dive I didn't do
tictock
Damdred
Chezinu
Alakaslam - not happy + what now he has to think cause he thought I had no scumreads?
Mr. Wiggles
Ace
ExO_
Bloodycobbler
Darthfoley
Null-reads
Onegu - no shiny hipster reads (scum) vs. so uncaring (town)
Fecalfeast - seems to have lost interest
Rels - pissed at me man -_-
Dunno - would need to look at them closer
Tumblewood
Jockmcplop
[UoN]Sentinel
tubesock
Pandain replaced by AMG
Meapak_Ziphh
*Anything that's changed I think I've added a comment to?
Out for the night. We've got an early morning tomorrow. On March 09 2019 08:59 Oatsmaster wrote:
Darthfoley is actually the worst scumread I’ve seen ever what I dunno if acro found this. but i think its an important post I saw it. I thought it was a pretty bizarre defense of someone he hadn't mentioned before in the whole game. I think I wrote that in one of my many posts about Oats. What did you think was important about it? Why would I mention him if no one is scumreading him and he’s my townread?!?
I've been thinking back to N2, and at that time DF was a nullish townread for me. I had some reasons down to town him, but his inactivity and the fact that nobody mentioned him at all was starting to worry me.
Going over dead townies filter, that idea is confirmed. HF had him down as "someone he should read" and mentioned that either ExO or DF was scum (although I don't really follow why). Rayn wanted AMG's thoughts on him and didn't really have any of his own. WoS same story.
Rsoultin scummed him, mainly for continuously forgetting he was in the game.
Yet you had him as a hard town read. So hard that your only response to rsoul's list is to chainsaw defend him. Without mentioning him at all before ever in your filter. In fact, you seem very suspicious of absolutely everybody in the game. Except Lamp, DF and Wiggles. It is just so incongruent that you chainsaw defend DF here.
Even if you scum rsoul as you claim you do:
On March 09 2019 01:52 Oatsmaster wrote:
my scumlist:
sl
rsoul
grack
ace
tube
slam
Why jump down her throat over one of her scumreads, which should at BEST be a slightly green null to you at this point. It just... doesn't add up. You aren't trying to read the game and find scum. You are simply attacking people who disagree with your pre-ordained list, which had rsoul as scum and DF as town (the latter made up on the spot for no apparent reason. Your rsoul scumread at least has some stuff in it).
Of course, you do jump down peoples' throats for having scumreads on your townreads. There was the whole WEIRD tubesock <> wiggles thing that you poked your nose into.
I am simply going to quote my earlier post on it, but here I ignored Oats as I was focusing on TS vs Wiggles. But TS brought up a good point, which we will go into afterwards:
+ Show Spoiler [long post detailing TS vs Wiggles] +On March 08 2019 21:47 Acrofales wrote:Hmmm, I think I'm starting to figure it out on my own, I'm just reaching a different conclusion. Sorry for being a bit dense, but this is actually a super-interesting exchange that got totally snowed under in the HF-BH house of horror. Show nested quote +On March 07 2019 12:54 Mr. Wiggles wrote:Our dedicated fan Oatsmaster also writes in: On March 07 2019 02:30 Oatsmaster wrote:On March 06 2019 21:47 Tubesock wrote:
Wiggles is funny to me. I feel like I can just take his case on me, and find/replace his name for mine and submit it with equal fervor. Plus we voted on both wagons so we can’t be too far off. This should make wriggles town to him right because he does the exact same things as wriggles This is a funny point that was missed on my first read through. If Tubesock thinks my play looks the same as what I've been pointing out in his, then he should probably read me similarly to his own alignment. If he thinks that makes me look like mafia, that's probably that scum guilt eating him up inside. Oats didn't let that slip slip his attention. Bravo! I'm trying to sort out this tangled up mess too. It just seems disingenuous to say this, but I can't quite put my finger on why. Let me try rewording it, and Oats, TS and Wiggles correct me if this is what they thought: Wiggles: cases TS with the following: Show nested quote +On March 06 2019 11:28 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
Tubesock fell off the face of the earth. Still scum though.
Got to pressure vote trfel near the start of the day and park the vote because the rest of us ran with a case. No posting into D2 means no pressure from the lynch fallout. Pushed the Palmar is scum thing early without needing to commit hard on it or later comment on HF's announcement of a Palmar lynch.
We've only gotten two reads out of TS on trfel and conversion and they've both flipped now. Besides that we have zero information on where their head's at, scum-hunting wise. Lurking without offering anything to town. TS responds to this case saying that it doesn't feel right that Wiggles reads him as scum for this, as Wiggles has done exactly the same. Therefore if Wiggles is *town* he should realize that TS and he had the same behaviour and is therefore also town. I don't actually see TS drawing conclusions from it, just saying that it's a bullshit case, at this point. Oats chips in and says that it's weird, because if TS is town, and knows that the behaviour in the bullshit case comes from a townie, then he must see Wiggles as a townie. I'm not sure I agree with that, because there is a major difference in their behaviour now: Wiggles thinks tubesock's behaviour for which he was cased was scummy. Tubesock just thinks that Wiggles exhibited the same behaviour, not that the behaviour is scummy. So if TS scumreads Wiggles, it isn't for the behaviour itself (which he thinks he shares), but rather for the hipocrisy of finding that behaviour scummy. But I do see where Oats is coming from. He just read too much into it. My real issue is the follow-up from Wiggles that I quoted at the top: At this point we have Wiggles scumming TS for behaviour that TS says was the same as his own, and we don't have TS scumming Wiggles, just pointing out the hipocrisy. Wiggles tunnels in on it and says "well, if you see this as scummy then you must be scum yourself". This just seems super disingenuous and Wiggles isn't really trying to figure out whether TS is scum or town, just paint him red and call it a day.
Show nested quote +On March 08 2019 12:55 Mr. Wiggles wrote:Our next letter is quite unpleasant. The contents of if describe various threats of death and bodily harm to your host in graphic detail, and the letter also looks to be smeared with what appears to be excrement. Though the signature is partially obscured by said foul substance, we can make out some of the letters: A--of-l-s. Now, we have a suspicion of who this misguided individual could be, and so we'll be addressing this hate-mail. + Show Spoiler [Disturbing Letter to our Host] +On March 08 2019 06:25 A--of-l-s wrote:Show nested quote +On March 08 2019 05:58 Vivax wrote:On March 08 2019 05:50 A--of-l-s wrote:On March 08 2019 05:48 Vivax wrote:
Looks like Ill have to vote BH then to ensure this isnt another fuckup day. Just look at wiggles first, please? His posts where he talks to TS seem good to me. TS was like "If Im mayor, ill sheep HF", effectively avoiding to give out an opinion on anyone. WIggles picked up on that. Third post he calls out like 3 or 4 dudes (you, sent, conversion) for not sticking their neck out, effectively sticking out his own. Idk, just doesnt seem mafia to me. Also, he most likely was the first to catch TS, so kudos to him. I can do any other player I have listed in my final list. And BH is the next one in it. Ok. You're right. The interaction with TS is actually okay :/ But it's from this point onward that I just read mehhhh: Show nested quote +On March 04 2019 14:20 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
What do you think of the Acro case Oats?
I've been going back re-reading his posts and the case on him, but I'm having trouble making up my mind. I'll probably sleep on it and re-read again in the morning. "please tell me what to think, I'll get back" (never did) Show nested quote +On March 05 2019 05:48 Mr. Wiggles wrote:On March 05 2019 05:44 Ace wrote:
Blazinghand don't get yourself lynched for bs. If you're town you just waste a day as there's no real discussion being generated regarding you, and it's an easy wagon for Scum to hop on. Thank you! Felt like I was yelling into the wind Claims he was advocating for BH being town (although I have no idea how Ace got there either), when he was advocating for a mayor to shiv BH rather than lynching him: Show nested quote +On March 05 2019 04:45 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
What's with the BH train? If you want to kill a hardcore lurker like that why not use the mayor lynch? I don't see the benefit Show nested quote +On March 05 2019 06:17 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
I'll consolidate onto trfel, feels better than Conv to me right now.
I read rsoul town for what it's worth Yeuchhhh Show nested quote +On March 05 2019 12:31 Mr. Wiggles wrote:On March 05 2019 12:23 WaveofShadow wrote:
Anyway, as much as tooting my own horn is super fun (man I was a goddamn all-star scum player---I think my winrate might have been better than HFs)---
I want to make this clear before I post a little on rsoul
We are lynching ONLY HF OR BH tomorrow.
The game can't proceed properly until that's done. Of those two, I'd rather HF die. Not sure if for personal/fun reasons or not, but whateva. I will not be pushing anyone else actively.
I'll be interested to see what you say about rsoul. Don't read her that way and would rather she doesn't catch a bullet. Hopefully someone takes care of BH tonight. I get that HF needs to flip too. =/ "Please tell me what to think" take 2. Nothing he did in D1 was to take solid stances. The very start of the game he was pressuring TS a bit, but dropped it when he got no support and it kinda just faded. Show nested quote +On March 05 2019 12:34 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
As much as I didn't like Conversion, Marv seems cool so far. Not only is this a lie (he scummed trfel over conversion), but marv came in looking pretty townie. If wiggles is scum this is such a safe play! Gain easy town credit when later in the night you shank him. So fucking simple (and btw, I've done this). Show nested quote +On March 05 2019 14:50 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
Rayn, is your read on Acro still the same? You had him pegged as scum earlier.
I don't see it after the second half of the day and the reaction to the Palmar lynch. He's helping move the game forward in a useful way now, even if he's wrong about some things (like me) "Please tell me what to think" take 3. Then there's a lot of just generally just looking like he's saying stuff without actually saying stuff. I mean. Do I have a sure read on Wiggles? No. Not really. He could just be a town that's really struggling with the length of the game. But I'm more confident that he's scum than I am that BH is. And for the rest I'm sure Palmar had a damned good reason to suddenly spam the thread with Wiggles is Mafia. He didn't do that with Sentinel, BC or HF. He read Wiggles filter and you can see the alarm bells go off in his head. He never really said why. But it's blendy shit and reads like a blendy mafia. I have played a scumgame with Wiggles a looooong time ago, and remember bussing him at some point for being all blendy and lurky and stuff. Same as this play. But not sure I ever played with town Wiggles, so meta case is not a good case here. Now this individual claims several times that your host is asking callers to tell him what to think about some of our other citizens, rather than making up his own mind. We can say that this is a patently false statement. After our first interaction asking about esteemed citizen Acrofales (no relation to A--of-l-s, we hope), we made up our minds that we consider him to be of a green persuasion. See our lack of joining the mob looking to do him violence on Day 1. We later press Rayn (who we are suspicious of!) about their read of Acrofales (who again, we think is town). The case put forward by Rayn appears to be a bunch of hooey from our perspective, so we want to see if he'll double-down on it, which they have more than done throughout the night and this day cycle, even going so far as to avoid the other wagons. rsoultin was another of our town reads, so any cases put forth to attempt to undermine or sway opinion to the contrary were of interest to us. This was especially important, because cases made and pushed throughout the night could persuade the vigilante element of our society to take things into their own hands. Many of our players are a little buck-wild, to put things lightly, so it was a valid concern. Lastly, regarding our dearly departed suicidal team mate BH, we did not want to see a large wagon on him on D1. We felt that the wagons and votes of the day would provide information that would be useful, and that this would be subverted by having the entire town jump on a martyr who we could instead let the mayor take care of. We did not once claim a town read on BH, but have leaned null (early) to scum (recently). Regardless of BH's alignment the Day 1 wagon was very easy for scum to hop onto if they so desired without needing to put forward any contribution. I really do like the flavour you're putting into these posts  I'm also starting to see some glimmers of town in you more recently, but your play still feels very off. I still agree with rsoul. It's very peanut gallery. You seem more invested than FF at least. But some things just don't add up. The tunnel on tubesock that nobody is paying any attention to is just so... easy. Also the reasoning around hopping on the trfel wagon feels like feigned interest. You can literally just go where the wind blows. There's some light pressure, a bit of a tunnel, and a lot of blehhhhhh. Enough to look interested, but not enough to actually contribute. Conclusion: still Wiggles
Tubesock's analysis of Oats jumping into the middle here:
On March 08 2019 04:42 Tubesock wrote:Show nested quote +On March 08 2019 04:10 Oatsmaster wrote:
Mafia boi
If wriggles does the same thing as you in that his case on you can be applied to him, and you are town, doesn’t that mean he’s also town? How does it mean he’s mafia I never scumread him. So, it’s hilarious you are saying I’m scum for this, but apparently Wiggles is somehow town for doing exactly that. Take a look at my two posts: Show nested quote +On March 06 2019 18:52 Tubesock wrote:
Wiggles, you’ve been scumming me since before I even scummed Trfel. Yet you’ve never voted me. Why not? You seem pretty convinced, you have some others who agree. Think about what you say because I’m going to have great satisfaction copy and pasting things from your case on me in my defense. Then Show nested quote +On March 06 2019 21:47 Tubesock wrote:
Wiggles is funny to me. I feel like I can just take his case on me, and find/replace his name for mine and submit it with equal fervor. Plus we voted on both wagons so we can’t be too far off. Why do you think i wrote the big and bold?? It’s a fucking trap and you fell right into it. Oatsmaster didn’t bother to read anything more than the single post and looking for “reads” at the shallowest of levels. You went straight to Tube is mafia because of this “slip” you found. Yet you had no idea it was a trap and you fell into it!!! This action on your part is representative of your entire game. You are mafia.
This is spot on. Also... Oats reacts weirdly:
On March 08 2019 04:48 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On March 08 2019 04:42 Tubesock wrote:On March 08 2019 04:10 Oatsmaster wrote:
Mafia boi
If wriggles does the same thing as you in that his case on you can be applied to him, and you are town, doesn’t that mean he’s also town? How does it mean he’s mafia I never scumread him. So, it’s hilarious you are saying I’m scum for this, but apparently Wiggles is somehow town for doing exactly that. Take a look at my two posts: On March 06 2019 18:52 Tubesock wrote:
Wiggles, you’ve been scumming me since before I even scummed Trfel. Yet you’ve never voted me. Why not? You seem pretty convinced, you have some others who agree. Think about what you say because I’m going to have great satisfaction copy and pasting things from your case on me in my defense. Then On March 06 2019 21:47 Tubesock wrote:
Wiggles is funny to me. I feel like I can just take his case on me, and find/replace his name for mine and submit it with equal fervor. Plus we voted on both wagons so we can’t be too far off. Why do you think i wrote the big and bold?? It’s a fucking trap and you fell right into it. Oatsmaster didn’t bother to read anything more than the single post and looking for “reads” at the shallowest of levels. You went straight to Tube is mafia because of this “slip” you found. Yet you had no idea it was a trap and you fell into it!!! This action on your part is representative of your entire game. You are mafia. I see that you and I have different definitions of funny then, whatever. I’m wrong about that, carry on
He is scumming TS, right? Now TS just omgus'd him. Instead of pushing, he backs down. Hard:
On March 08 2019 05:00 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On March 08 2019 04:58 Holyflare wrote:On March 08 2019 04:42 Tubesock wrote:On March 08 2019 04:10 Oatsmaster wrote:
Mafia boi
If wriggles does the same thing as you in that his case on you can be applied to him, and you are town, doesn’t that mean he’s also town? How does it mean he’s mafia I never scumread him. So, it’s hilarious you are saying I’m scum for this, but apparently Wiggles is somehow town for doing exactly that. Take a look at my two posts: On March 06 2019 18:52 Tubesock wrote:
Wiggles, you’ve been scumming me since before I even scummed Trfel. Yet you’ve never voted me. Why not? You seem pretty convinced, you have some others who agree. Think about what you say because I’m going to have great satisfaction copy and pasting things from your case on me in my defense. Then On March 06 2019 21:47 Tubesock wrote:
Wiggles is funny to me. I feel like I can just take his case on me, and find/replace his name for mine and submit it with equal fervor. Plus we voted on both wagons so we can’t be too far off. Why do you think i wrote the big and bold?? It’s a fucking trap and you fell right into it. Oatsmaster didn’t bother to read anything more than the single post and looking for “reads” at the shallowest of levels. You went straight to Tube is mafia because of this “slip” you found. Yet you had no idea it was a trap and you fell into it!!! This action on your part is representative of your entire game. You are mafia. Explain this trap like I'm 5 because I don't get it. I think it’s the part where he implied that he thought wiggles was scum but he never actually thought he was scum and I thought that he thought that wriggles was scum so I got caught oh noo
Now think of a town Oats. Does town!Oats who is scumming TS suddenly think that the guy he just caught for being mafia "laid a trap" and he, town!Oats, fell for it, and is now being scummed himself? Or did the situation just get too hot to handle for scum!Oats? Clearly the second is the better explanation. Why? Because if town!Oats thought that he had actually been caught by a TS "trap" he would
EITHER call it bullshit, not a trap, stupid scumslip and push TS hard
OR believe it was indeed a town!TS trap and stop scumming him
Instead, we have scum!Oats next mention of Tubesock:
On March 09 2019 01:52 Oatsmaster wrote:
my scumlist:
sl
rsoul
grack
ace
tube
slam
The "whoops, I forgot I backed off that guy" list.
GG. Oats
And I really tried. I really thought you might be town after all with your post about Wiggles scum. But nice job throwing your buddy under the bus.
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If associations don't count, read ^^^^^^^^^^ and vote Oatsmaster today
TLDR:
1. his chainsaw defense of DF doesn't make any towny sense
2. his scumread, back down and leave on scumlist on TS doesn't make any towny sense
He's just a scumster with made up reads that he can't keep straight.
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PS. I did get my hair cut AND I looked at AMG's filter. It is... weird. He may be scum.
Like the one thing that dominated D2 was HF vs BH. He mentions BH a bit and votes for him, but there is no mention of HF. He does follow rayn's advice to read less important filters in
Onegu: probably scum
FF: probably town
Damdred: null?
Wiggles: trust Palmar (so scum)
Now I don't actually mind these reads. They kinda make sense. What doesn't make sense is AMG just latching onto Rayn telling him to read these completely irrelevant filters in making up his mind on whether HF or BH needed to be lynched... or "neither" was the better option (in which case the above little list might have been relevant).
1. AMG didn't have time to play the game properly
2. AMG used that little time on doing irrelevant stuff
Conclusion:
AMG didn't care who got lynched D2.
ERGO: AMG was scum.
Sorry Pandain, maybe don't replace out next time 
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On March 16 2019 20:55 Pandain wrote:
The obvious answer is that the thread was 300 pages and he replaced in and had no real idea what was going on
I dunno. I replace into a game I can't keep up with as town, I focus on what appears to be important at that moment: the two main wagons
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AMG focused on pleasing town!Rayn.
This kinda makes sense as scum, because being on the wrong end of a town!Rayn tunnel gets you lynched quite easily.
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Damn it, I could have killed the mafia dayvig, and instead shot a VT 
On the other hand, then we would have lynched HF instead of sentinel, so it all evens out
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On March 16 2019 21:02 Pandain wrote:
Acro I know you're town so you need to focus. Why would I if I was scum lead a lynch away from the best player in the game (town)
In a million years
I have no idea, it's why I towned you.
Don't worry. We should definitely kill Oats before you. But the fact that I have no idea why scum!Pandain would lead the wagon off town!Ace doesn't mean you wouldn't. To paraphrase your own words:
The problem is I am reading into Pandain as to what I would have done, not what Pandain decided to do.
I'm sure you had your reasons to lynch sentinel, I just can't fathom them!
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On March 17 2019 00:01 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
Before we get into the show, we are paging Professor Acrofales, paging Professor Acrofales.
If you're still here, we would like to know your thoughts on one 'darthfoley'. We consider him the strongest alternate lynch to Oats that we can rally town behind today.
Why are you looking at an alternative wagon? What do you think of Oats?
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On March 17 2019 00:22 Rels wrote:
we need to consolidate though at some point. Acro, do I have no chance of convincing you to vote Onegu?
Nope. I'm with you that he's probably scum, but at this point we just ignore him and find his scumbuddies. If he flips 3p we lose, and there is a real risk his 3p claim is real. A survivor in a 35-player game is totally possible.
If we had killed 3 or 4 scummers and were having a terrible time finding their friends, I'd say lynch him to be sure. But we have gotten a single scummer and no associations from it. So it's really no need to lynch a possible 3p right now.
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Of course...
On March 16 2019 05:58 Onegu wrote:
##Unvote
##Vote: Mocsta
If Onegu refuses to play ball we can just declare MAD if he's 3p, and go for the onegu=scum lynch a bit earlier than anticipated.
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I don't think there's anything wrong with what you say about MZ. But I did like his response yesterday when I asked if he saw himself as null. I found this post:
On March 15 2019 03:09 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:Show nested quote +On March 15 2019 03:03 Acrofales wrote:On March 15 2019 03:02 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
I might swap Grack with Rels/FF but other than that I think your reads are spot on Acro. So you think you're null?  You don't have me as scum? You almost the same reads I do? I think my play so far justifies a null read on me, that's why I haven't jumped down the throats of the many people who have called me scum lol. I'm town, as long as we're lynching people I think are scum in a lylo situation I'm good with people reading me however they please.
completely inline with how I'd expect a townie to respond.
So given that we caught Oatsmaster with his hand in the cookie jar today, I don't really feel like spending the energy to un-null my null read right now.
Also, I'm wary of wagons being pushed by people I haven't towned yet... for obvious reasons.
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Organized by # pages in filter:
LightningStrike (35)
Acrofales (30)
Oatsmaster (24)
Alakaslam (21)
Mocsta (18)
Onegu (14)
Rels (14)
Fecalfeast (11)
Pandain replaced by AMG replaced by Pandain (9 + 1)
Mr. Wiggles (9)
Jockmcplop (9)
Meapak_Ziphh (9)
darthfoley (7)
tubesock (6)
ExO_ (4)
In a game of 35 players, you can "expect" each player to contribute roughly 2.9% of the thread. Some will obviously contribute less due to being dead at the beginning, but lets use that as a rough metric.
LightningStrike = 8%
Acrofales 7%
Oatsmaster 5.5%
Alakaslam 5%
Mocsta 4%
Onegu 3%
Rels 3%
Fecalfeast 2.5%
Pandain replaced by AMG replaced by Pandain 2%
Mr. Wiggles 2%
Jockmcplop 2%
Meapak_Ziphh 2%
darthfoley 2%
tubesock 1%
ExO_ 1%
I was going to do this for all players, but don't have time. I think Oats actually had a good point to do quantitative meta analysis.
Oats is at roughly 190% of the average poster. That's quite a lot. However Oats is generally a very prolific poster, so simply saying "quantity = town" is not right. We need to compare it to other games:
Here are all the games he played since 2014 (an arbitrary cut-off chosen so I don't have to analyse any of his 500 games played in 2013, but also to filter out "old meta"):
Survivor Series Mafia Town Vanilla Endgamed Day 4 - 10 pages: 5.7%, or 80% of average
SMB Mini Mafia Town Vanilla Lynched Day 4 - 13 pages: 10%, or 131% of average
TL Mafia LXIV: The Restart Town Vanilla Survived Day 7- 14 pages: 11%, or 200% of average
Im a cop you idiot mafia 2 Town Medic Killed Night 2 - 9 pages: 20%, or 142% of average
Shadowed Mini Mafia: The Reboot Town Vanilla Survived Day 4 - 8 pages: 8%, or 90% of average
Got bored of this. Only doing 2017 onwards:
A Simple Game of Mafia Mafia Roleblocker Lynched Day 1- 2 pages: 2%, or 28% of average
Names Are Hard 2 Town Vanilla Endgamed Day 4 - 17 pages: 13%, or 156% of average
Hurricane Shelter Mafia Town Medic Killed Night 1 - 3 pages: 4% or 52% of average
Heroes of the Storm Mafia Town Vanilla Lynched Day 2 - 13 pages: 17%, or 223% of average
Newbie Student Mafia XXVII Mafia Roleblocker Survived Day 5 - 12 pages: 16%, or 228% of average
Mafia Mafia Mafia Mafia Town Vanilla Killed Day 2 - 8 pages: 12%, or 190% of average
MafiacalFeast I Mafia Godfather Lynched Day 4 - 14 pages: 8%, or 110% of average
Make of this what you will, but mostly Oats is just a prolific writer. He has 2 recent mafia games at 110% of average and 228% of average. His least posts come from when he died super early (day 1, night 1) as mafia or town.
But it is maybe a good way to look at other people. Just a lot of work.
Going to cook. Lynch Oats!
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@LS: I remember multiple people called Oats out on D1 for being completely useless and throwing out a list of random reads. Explain your meta read please
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I thought we had an hour and 15 minutes, but keep forgetting DST in the states. I thought I had time to go through some of the Oats town mislynches... but really I don't. So far, I don't see much possibility of meta reading Oats: if it was clear, he wouldn't get mislynched as town on D1/2 as often as he does... or for that matter, live til endgame as scum.
I mean, a clear meta can be seen from Vivax's DB: he gets lynched a LOT as scum, and NK'd as town. Mislynches are few and far between. Oats is far less obvious: he lives as scum, gets mislynched as town, and is generally just a confusion.
So yeah, I could be wrong about Oats, him getting mislynched shows town often gets him wrong, Not just for meta reasons. But I trust my reasoning that he's scum. More than I belive anyone else is scum.
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On March 17 2019 07:54 darthfoley wrote:
Welp 7 minutes before probable end of game post and the obs people flooding the thread flaming us for never lynching MZ. Was fun I guess
If anything, Palmar is gonna go bonkers about us not lynching Wiggles. But don't worry. Oats'll flip red, I'll get NKd and be done with this
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Well fuck.
Sorry Oats :/
And the game hasn't ended?
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Well, I'm done with this game. My scumhunting is completely awful. I'll go join HF in the dumbass corner of this game.
If I'm still alive tomorrow I'm sheeping mocsta.
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On March 17 2019 20:35 Pandain wrote:
This game is a trainwreck
Not for you.
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But I'm kinda done. Clearly my reads are terrible. We should just kill, in any order:
Pandain
ExO_
Onegu
Maybe add Wiggles in there, because his reasoning around whipping votes for Oats seemed suspect, but honestly, I can't be bothered. At least I remember why I didn't play for so long.
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Oh, and maybe add Slam in there too, because claiming Cockatoo when he isn't Australian is a scum move.
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