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I feel bad for how annoyed I got at literally every lurker/afker throughout my mafia career
I know how you feel
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So many people just willing to toss me aside the few times my name is mentioned, very few actually looking to engage.
Vivax stands out in that regard as the only one who actually looked to question me on anything I've said directly. I don't know what to make of that, truly. Never followed up after I answered him but also hasn't taken the easy route by saying bad play = scum play like everyone else. Can't commit to a good read here mostly because I feel like he'll eventually revral himself one way or another as the game progresses.
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My weakness is I often tie people's alignments to their reads of me but I can't help but be curious.
Stuff like rsoul's read of me makes me lean scum on her because it feels like a massive cop-out when I know she's way more capable and at the very least could have taken the bad=scum route or formulated some opinion on my lacklustre performance thus far. It's real easy.
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Lean scum on Pandain for earlier weird commitment on Ace. I'd say solid vig target like MZ just said, and hell, just to introduce some WIFOM shoot him instead of me because I might be more likely to put in some effort at some point?
Statistically speaking I feel like there must be scum amongst the bigger voices this game. Doesn't feel like Iamp to me, and I can't read Holyflare basically ever. Not sure who that leaves but I figure I'll actually resort to a filter dive at some point.
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Oo actually now that I think about it I wonder if I look into all the low effort talk of disposal of my person, which of those talked about lynching vs vig. Might be an interesting exercise but maybe just more self stroking of my own ego.
Ugh somebody talk to me maybe now that I seem to be in the mood
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I will look at Trfel now. Something someone wrote recently (you?) struck a chord in that I remember him having a ridiculous (scum?)game or at the very least him having been very skilled in some form or another so maybe seeing him perform less adequately makes him more likely to be scum? Not really sure. Meta probably isn't a great idea in this game (and let's be real honest, isn't usually a great idea at all) but we all do it, so it's worth looking into.
Mayor atm is Palmar but he's fucked off for a while and Sentinel should no longer be mayor lynch so that could very easily change depending on what he does.
Wouldn't vote Oats atm, probably not Sentinel, haven't looked with any detial into Acro but probably should given the wagon on him and the high profile names involved.
I will never vote HF into a position of power because I will basically never trust him in any given game.
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Talking about rayn feels like unleashing the beast in some way, but sure. I'll do a dive if you're still around. What did you want to talk about in regards to him specifically?
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lol
So long as you keep the hijoles to a minimum I'd say
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But am I scccummmmmm Tumblewood?
Or are you going to join the multitudes who have decided that everything I say is trash and then not comment on anything beyond that?
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Strangely ironic that when I first read your post I bristled at being told I had a chipmunk memory, but if reading comprehension doesn't fail me (and maybe evidently, it does?) you were talking about yourself?
lol
Fair point I guess but the larger point still stands---if you are calling me scum, you're doing it based on nothing other than how 'blah' I'm being? And I still don't buy you not being great at reading me. Historically, you have been barring I think our first couple games together.
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On March 04 2019 16:18 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On March 04 2019 14:48 WaveofShadow wrote:
Lean scum on Pandain for earlier weird commitment on Ace. I'd say solid vig target like MZ just said, and hell, just to introduce some WIFOM shoot him instead of me because I might be more likely to put in some effort at some point?
Statistically speaking I feel like there must be scum amongst the bigger voices this game. Doesn't feel like Iamp to me, and I can't read Holyflare basically ever. Not sure who that leaves but I figure I'll actually resort to a filter dive at some point. HF is never scum here. If one of us is scum and the other isn't we tear each other apart. I'm not sure if both are scum...I can't remember playing scum with him but chipmunk memory. It's actually super exciting lol >< it's been forever since we both rolled town. And apart from the rsoul-focused reason, there's also how he handled the argument with rayn. Scum HF just keeps tearing and tearing, town HF backs off and tries to understand people after his stubborn argumentative streak is appeased. So.
Disagree with your points on HF entirely. HF is a free spirit and does more or less whatever the fuck he pleases as either alignment. Kinda like me :D
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To further elaborate. scum HF doesn't need to try to tear apart the town if town is doing an ok job of that already or they're nowhere near finding everyone. I've said before I actually quite like the level of activity in this game and it's not a huge shitshow so I like where we're at, but this is D1. Scum do not need to put themselves on the line here, LEAST of all HF.
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On March 04 2019 16:22 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On March 04 2019 15:25 WaveofShadow wrote:
I will look at Trfel now. Something someone wrote recently (you?) struck a chord in that I remember him having a ridiculous (scum?)game or at the very least him having been very skilled in some form or another so maybe seeing him perform less adequately makes him more likely to be scum? Not really sure. Meta probably isn't a great idea in this game (and let's be real honest, isn't usually a great idea at all) but we all do it, so it's worth looking into.
Mayor atm is Palmar but he's fucked off for a while and Sentinel should no longer be mayor lynch so that could very easily change depending on what he does.
Wouldn't vote Oats atm, probably not Sentinel, haven't looked with any detial into Acro but probably should given the wagon on him and the high profile names involved.
I will never vote HF into a position of power because I will basically never trust him in any given game. Dude lol >< you and truffle had a killer scum game together you forget that?
I mean...yes?
But not entirely
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On March 04 2019 16:23 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On March 04 2019 16:20 WaveofShadow wrote:On March 04 2019 16:18 rsoultin wrote:On March 04 2019 14:48 WaveofShadow wrote:
Lean scum on Pandain for earlier weird commitment on Ace. I'd say solid vig target like MZ just said, and hell, just to introduce some WIFOM shoot him instead of me because I might be more likely to put in some effort at some point?
Statistically speaking I feel like there must be scum amongst the bigger voices this game. Doesn't feel like Iamp to me, and I can't read Holyflare basically ever. Not sure who that leaves but I figure I'll actually resort to a filter dive at some point. HF is never scum here. If one of us is scum and the other isn't we tear each other apart. I'm not sure if both are scum...I can't remember playing scum with him but chipmunk memory. It's actually super exciting lol >< it's been forever since we both rolled town. And apart from the rsoul-focused reason, there's also how he handled the argument with rayn. Scum HF just keeps tearing and tearing, town HF backs off and tries to understand people after his stubborn argumentative streak is appeased. So. Disagree with your points on HF entirely. HF is a free spirit and does more or less whatever the fuck he pleases as either alignment. Kinda like me :D You can disagree. I'm not going to believe someone has a better read on him than me until they can prove it, though, cause my track record's actually pretty decent. Especially not from someone who claims to never be able to read him.
That's exactly it--- I never claimed to be able to read him. I didn't call him scum, I'm just not bothering entirely. I'm definitely not calling him town though.
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I just remember a scumgame where it was like me and yamato and you blew us out. I cba to look into past history beyond that, it's ancient at this point and I refuse to meta dive. If I'm wrong I'm wrong but it's what I remember.
Anyhow sure, I'm up to converse. Choice of topic?
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On March 04 2019 16:32 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On March 04 2019 16:24 Acrofales wrote:On March 04 2019 16:18 rsoultin wrote:On March 04 2019 14:48 WaveofShadow wrote:
Lean scum on Pandain for earlier weird commitment on Ace. I'd say solid vig target like MZ just said, and hell, just to introduce some WIFOM shoot him instead of me because I might be more likely to put in some effort at some point?
Statistically speaking I feel like there must be scum amongst the bigger voices this game. Doesn't feel like Iamp to me, and I can't read Holyflare basically ever. Not sure who that leaves but I figure I'll actually resort to a filter dive at some point. HF is never scum here. If one of us is scum and the other isn't we tear each other apart. I'm not sure if both are scum...I can't remember playing scum with him but chipmunk memory. It's actually super exciting lol >< it's been forever since we both rolled town. And apart from the rsoul-focused reason, there's also how he handled the argument with rayn. Scum HF just keeps tearing and tearing, town HF backs off and tries to understand people after his stubborn argumentative streak is appeased. So. I mostly agree with you. Not sold on lamp. His main contribution is hounding me all game so far, so I know he is at least very very wrong. Still gotta figure out whether that's because he's being an idiot or just picked a target and stuck with it because it's easier as scum than actually reading the thread. Especially this huge one... I think Iam's town. I thought he was town before his case on you. He's got this organic thing going when reacting to the thread. Also think it's a mischaracterization to say that he's not focused on anything else.
Agree with this.
Also town iamp makes me laugh more than scum iamp I thinks?
That's a lie fuck it I just like when he calls people names
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On March 04 2019 16:35 ExO_ wrote:Show nested quote +On March 04 2019 16:32 rsoultin wrote:On March 04 2019 16:24 Acrofales wrote:On March 04 2019 16:18 rsoultin wrote:On March 04 2019 14:48 WaveofShadow wrote:
Lean scum on Pandain for earlier weird commitment on Ace. I'd say solid vig target like MZ just said, and hell, just to introduce some WIFOM shoot him instead of me because I might be more likely to put in some effort at some point?
Statistically speaking I feel like there must be scum amongst the bigger voices this game. Doesn't feel like Iamp to me, and I can't read Holyflare basically ever. Not sure who that leaves but I figure I'll actually resort to a filter dive at some point. HF is never scum here. If one of us is scum and the other isn't we tear each other apart. I'm not sure if both are scum...I can't remember playing scum with him but chipmunk memory. It's actually super exciting lol >< it's been forever since we both rolled town. And apart from the rsoul-focused reason, there's also how he handled the argument with rayn. Scum HF just keeps tearing and tearing, town HF backs off and tries to understand people after his stubborn argumentative streak is appeased. So. I mostly agree with you. Not sold on lamp. His main contribution is hounding me all game so far, so I know he is at least very very wrong. Still gotta figure out whether that's because he's being an idiot or just picked a target and stuck with it because it's easier as scum than actually reading the thread. Especially this huge one... I think Iam's town. I thought he was town before his case on you. He's got this organic thing going when reacting to the thread. Also think it's a mischaracterization to say that he's not focused on anything else. "He's got this organic thing down" What the fuck is that supposed to mean? He's mostly posted a sentence or two, has about 2 posts with more than that. And the fact that you think his town because his posts look organic is super wtf to me.
Seemed pretty clear to me actually. What do you find strange about that exactly?
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On March 04 2019 16:37 ExO_ wrote:Show nested quote +On March 04 2019 16:36 WaveofShadow wrote:On March 04 2019 16:35 ExO_ wrote:On March 04 2019 16:32 rsoultin wrote:On March 04 2019 16:24 Acrofales wrote:On March 04 2019 16:18 rsoultin wrote:On March 04 2019 14:48 WaveofShadow wrote:
Lean scum on Pandain for earlier weird commitment on Ace. I'd say solid vig target like MZ just said, and hell, just to introduce some WIFOM shoot him instead of me because I might be more likely to put in some effort at some point?
Statistically speaking I feel like there must be scum amongst the bigger voices this game. Doesn't feel like Iamp to me, and I can't read Holyflare basically ever. Not sure who that leaves but I figure I'll actually resort to a filter dive at some point. HF is never scum here. If one of us is scum and the other isn't we tear each other apart. I'm not sure if both are scum...I can't remember playing scum with him but chipmunk memory. It's actually super exciting lol >< it's been forever since we both rolled town. And apart from the rsoul-focused reason, there's also how he handled the argument with rayn. Scum HF just keeps tearing and tearing, town HF backs off and tries to understand people after his stubborn argumentative streak is appeased. So. I mostly agree with you. Not sold on lamp. His main contribution is hounding me all game so far, so I know he is at least very very wrong. Still gotta figure out whether that's because he's being an idiot or just picked a target and stuck with it because it's easier as scum than actually reading the thread. Especially this huge one... I think Iam's town. I thought he was town before his case on you. He's got this organic thing going when reacting to the thread. Also think it's a mischaracterization to say that he's not focused on anything else. "He's got this organic thing down" What the fuck is that supposed to mean? He's mostly posted a sentence or two, has about 2 posts with more than that. And the fact that you think his town because his posts look organic is super wtf to me. Seemed pretty clear to me actually. What do you find strange about that exactly? Organic is a strange choice of words imo. Saying somebody's posts look organic is only how you would describe somebody's posts if for some reason they actually aren't. It's like a "grassroots" movement -- it's not a real thing. There's always astro-turfing and that's what this seems like to me.
That's...what?
What a weird thing to say. I have never in all my time playing this game had someone create a sticking point over the word organic.
Dictionary.com:
denoting a relation between elements of something such that they fit together harmoniously as necessary parts of a whole.
"the organic unity of the integral work of art"
synonyms: structured, organized, coherent, integrated, coordinated, ordered, systematic, systematized, methodical, orderly, consistent, harmonious, methodized
"a society is an organic whole"
antonyms: disparate
characterized by continuous or natural development.
"companies expand as much by acquisition as by organic growth"
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On March 04 2019 16:41 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On March 04 2019 16:35 ExO_ wrote:On March 04 2019 16:32 rsoultin wrote:On March 04 2019 16:24 Acrofales wrote:On March 04 2019 16:18 rsoultin wrote:On March 04 2019 14:48 WaveofShadow wrote:
Lean scum on Pandain for earlier weird commitment on Ace. I'd say solid vig target like MZ just said, and hell, just to introduce some WIFOM shoot him instead of me because I might be more likely to put in some effort at some point?
Statistically speaking I feel like there must be scum amongst the bigger voices this game. Doesn't feel like Iamp to me, and I can't read Holyflare basically ever. Not sure who that leaves but I figure I'll actually resort to a filter dive at some point. HF is never scum here. If one of us is scum and the other isn't we tear each other apart. I'm not sure if both are scum...I can't remember playing scum with him but chipmunk memory. It's actually super exciting lol >< it's been forever since we both rolled town. And apart from the rsoul-focused reason, there's also how he handled the argument with rayn. Scum HF just keeps tearing and tearing, town HF backs off and tries to understand people after his stubborn argumentative streak is appeased. So. I mostly agree with you. Not sold on lamp. His main contribution is hounding me all game so far, so I know he is at least very very wrong. Still gotta figure out whether that's because he's being an idiot or just picked a target and stuck with it because it's easier as scum than actually reading the thread. Especially this huge one... I think Iam's town. I thought he was town before his case on you. He's got this organic thing going when reacting to the thread. Also think it's a mischaracterization to say that he's not focused on anything else. "He's got this organic thing down" What the fuck is that supposed to mean? He's mostly posted a sentence or two, has about 2 posts with more than that. And the fact that you think his town because his posts look organic is super wtf to me. -shrugs- I tend to think people who are fluidly changing opinions and reacting to changes in the thread are more likely town. Reading his filter is not likely to give you a good idea of what I'm talking about. Mafia has to think an extra step before posting to decide what things look like or if they want to pursue a scum/town read or whatever so they come off a bit more stiff/unnatural. Also it's probably projecting cause fluidity is one of the things I still can't get right in my own scum game lol ><
Careful because this isn't necessarily true. HF is a great example. Not as hard to do as scum as you'd think.
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On March 04 2019 16:42 ExO_ wrote:Show nested quote +On March 04 2019 16:39 WaveofShadow wrote:On March 04 2019 16:37 ExO_ wrote:On March 04 2019 16:36 WaveofShadow wrote:On March 04 2019 16:35 ExO_ wrote:On March 04 2019 16:32 rsoultin wrote:On March 04 2019 16:24 Acrofales wrote:On March 04 2019 16:18 rsoultin wrote:On March 04 2019 14:48 WaveofShadow wrote:
Lean scum on Pandain for earlier weird commitment on Ace. I'd say solid vig target like MZ just said, and hell, just to introduce some WIFOM shoot him instead of me because I might be more likely to put in some effort at some point?
Statistically speaking I feel like there must be scum amongst the bigger voices this game. Doesn't feel like Iamp to me, and I can't read Holyflare basically ever. Not sure who that leaves but I figure I'll actually resort to a filter dive at some point. HF is never scum here. If one of us is scum and the other isn't we tear each other apart. I'm not sure if both are scum...I can't remember playing scum with him but chipmunk memory. It's actually super exciting lol >< it's been forever since we both rolled town. And apart from the rsoul-focused reason, there's also how he handled the argument with rayn. Scum HF just keeps tearing and tearing, town HF backs off and tries to understand people after his stubborn argumentative streak is appeased. So. I mostly agree with you. Not sold on lamp. His main contribution is hounding me all game so far, so I know he is at least very very wrong. Still gotta figure out whether that's because he's being an idiot or just picked a target and stuck with it because it's easier as scum than actually reading the thread. Especially this huge one... I think Iam's town. I thought he was town before his case on you. He's got this organic thing going when reacting to the thread. Also think it's a mischaracterization to say that he's not focused on anything else. "He's got this organic thing down" What the fuck is that supposed to mean? He's mostly posted a sentence or two, has about 2 posts with more than that. And the fact that you think his town because his posts look organic is super wtf to me. Seemed pretty clear to me actually. What do you find strange about that exactly? Organic is a strange choice of words imo. Saying somebody's posts look organic is only how you would describe somebody's posts if for some reason they actually aren't. It's like a "grassroots" movement -- it's not a real thing. There's always astro-turfing and that's what this seems like to me. That's...what? What a weird thing to say. I have never in all my time playing this game had someone create a sticking point over the word organic. Dictionary.com: denoting a relation between elements of something such that they fit together harmoniously as necessary parts of a whole.
"the organic unity of the integral work of art"
synonyms: structured, organized, coherent, integrated, coordinated, ordered, systematic, systematized, methodical, orderly, consistent, harmonious, methodized
"a society is an organic whole"
antonyms: disparate
characterized by continuous or natural development.
"companies expand as much by acquisition as by organic growth" I think you're focusing on this far more than I was -- using organic to describe somebody's posting, to me, is not very organic.I don't think it serves much to dwell on this though -- do you agree with what rsoul said? You feel like iamp's posts are organic and town-motivated? OR what is your opinion of iamp?
It's less about the organic-ness...organicity? of the posts and more the seeming confidence behind his posting. He reacts to everything and posts with an air of superiority and most importantly pushes more or less relentlessly which, even if I didn't know iamp at all, are towny traits.
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