EPTYeah OK. But what is super weird a the timing of your breadcrumb. A breadcrumb is supposed to be done at the start of the game, so that when you reveal it, it supports that you were actually committing to this particular claim D1. Leaving a breadcrumb only after being attacked is like washing your bloody hands in front of a police officer
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Yeah OK. But what is super weird a the timing of your breadcrumb. A breadcrumb is supposed to be done at the start of the game, so that when you reveal it, it supports that you were actually committing to this particular claim D1. Leaving a breadcrumb only after being attacked is like washing your bloody hands in front of a police officer | ||
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On March 16 2019 00:27 LightningStrike wrote: Ya guys DF just claimed scum with that reaction like if he is town and gotten the vt pm he should of just claimed that he was the unaware miller but his first reaction is to call him scum trying to win the game? His reaction was to call him town, then scum wehn mocsta said again he had a red check if I remember ? TBH I also don't understand anything about mocsta s claim , and I think that's by design. I think it s just a bait and he's riding it to provoke reactions. | ||
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On March 16 2019 04:46 Pandain wrote: Mocsta is almost certainly bullshiting about his claim, making him almost certainly mafia Nothing about his claim makes sense. 1. He claimed parity cop last night already, without revealing his checks. If he was really cop and was afraid to get shot, he almost certainly would have revealed his checks right before day. Not doing this shows he either isn't afraid of getting shot, or he doesn't care about revealing his information, neither of which makes sense if he's actually cop. 2. None of his checks make sense. Let's see who he says a. Koshi night one - Makes no sense. Mocsta had a strong town read on Koshi. Why would you check someone you have a town read on, especially when they were not posting at all like Koshi night one? + Show Spoiler + On March 06 2019 08:30 Mocsta wrote: I absolutely agree on that. You/acro/koshi/jock/HF are pretty much my only town reads. Note this is 30 minutes before day 2, so as recent that night as you can get b. Holyflare night two - Same deal here, Mocsta thought he was town. See spoilers below. Not only that, Mocsta was scumreading people like Exo and Oats. Like the last night, this filter makes no sense. I will also say this is the "lazy" choice for a fakeclaim check night two, as I bet with all the drama most people would have checked him if not the night before. However based on Mocsta's filter? No way. + Show Spoiler + On March 07 2019 20:20 Mocsta wrote: they are voting you because you are an internet narcissist. You have 10% of the page count for what? Congrats, you won the last mayor, and in my opinion wrecked town atmosphere. I dont think you are scum, I actually thought you were pretty sincere before you when you said you were burnt out. Makes sense, its a bucket load of effort to maintain. Acro has been putting it in equally too you know. I really think you are both town. I really want damdred lynched. or someone from the lurker pool Or vivax, i dont care at this point. I invested most of my energy into Ace and for what. fuckn 3P. sigh. On March 08 2019 11:02 Mocsta wrote: yep and thats what most townies do under pressure focus on anything to do with them. c. Ticktock night three - Alright, maybe, in that he was at least scumming him before. However, it is also convenient that they just all happen to be dead as well. And there's no way town had three cops, that's way way way too imbalanced. Can you imagine if the cops did not die day 1? This game would have been over from long before. However, the final nail in the coffin is that Mocsta rescinded his vote on DF. We are in a possible lylo situation right now depending on KP and how many mafia there are. Why would a parity cop who just checked someone who is red ever in a million years not keep pushing for his red check? Makes absolutely no sense if he's telling the truth. If we actually are in a lylo situation, it would be a perfect time for mafia to fake claim because they just need to get one person lynched. The whole circumstances surrounding Mocsta are super sketchy, shady, and scummy, and he's practically mafia in my book now. These circumstances also makes darthfoley a strong town in my book. If he is town, I'm not surprised that mafia would fakeclaim check him considering there is tons of suspicion on him. In short, he's contradictory, his "checks" don't make sense, and he isn't playing like someone who just checked scum. Thank you. This is exactly what is bothering me about Mocsta's claim, and why I wanted him to make a clear claim. I also wanted to check his reads on his check targets, so this is sparing me the effort lol | ||
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probably. Small chance of being a delusioned town trying to bait reactions too | ||
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3P is also not possible. I've explained why it is only a strategy he came up while being pushed: On March 15 2019 07:00 Rels wrote: Yeah lol. Acro indicates he was post a case soon against Onegu, and votes him: And 1 hour later the breadcrumb appears: It's not a breadcrumb if you only do it when you're attacked ... a breadcrumb is supposed to prove you're not lying by showing that you committed secretly to your claim early on. This is not a secret commit, this is a reaction to being pushed To add something to this reasonning I didn't think at the time, there is the following: Onegu as a player showed that he's someone that thinks a breadcrumb is necessary to a claim, as evidenced by him ... leaving a breadcrumb while planning to claim, and also by his own words: On March 15 2019 02:31 Onegu wrote: Then just claim if I had to. And since I am going to be lynched I claimed. But not before I breadcrumb. BUT with this mindset, the best thing to do would be to breadcrumb very early in the game, ideally in his first post. That would prove beyond reasonnable doubts he's really survivor. The important point is: there is a disconnect between Onegu's awareness of him needing a breadcrumb to support his claim, and him only breadcrumbing 30 hours before his claim, when he's already under attack. How can we explain this disconnect? Easy; at the time you made your "Onegu is scum and I'll explain why soon" post, he thought his best chance to avoid lynch was to fakeclaim survivor, and he made his breadcrumb. Easy. Occam's razor in action here. There is also LS' point that he wouldn't be that angry after the Sentinel's point; I don't know how much of a strong point it is, and I don't need to - the above is already strong enough | ||
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On March 16 2019 07:59 Onegu wrote: I wasnt seriously being pushed when I crumbed. as scum, this kind of post will always make you react, even if you don't show it in thread: On March 13 2019 18:45 Acrofales wrote: Yeahhhh. Case incoming when I get to a PC. Let's lunch scum, ##vote: onegu so yeah, my assumption is that this post caused you to think of a fakeclaim, decide survivor, and plant a breadcrumb just in case you needed it later | ||
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On March 16 2019 08:09 Onegu wrote: has the presence of mind to think up a fake claim. breadcrumb it. off of a small push if that is not what happened, what did? | ||
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On March 16 2019 08:14 Onegu wrote: I knew my role. I knew I was getting a bit of heat. Nothing serious, but knew it could become something in the future. Also it was when people were talking about 3p so it felt like a good time. in your mind, you were getting "quite a bit of heat" way earlier: On March 15 2019 02:40 Onegu wrote: Because it would mean I was up for Lynch after that for not being on that Lynch. As people said I looked really bad after that flip. Bringing this up takes pressure of of me. By your reasonning, you would breadcrumb at that point (after the Sentinel flip). Why didn't you? | ||
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On March 16 2019 08:22 Onegu wrote: also did I crumb after the grack flip? I dont remember... no, it was during last day | ||
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On March 16 2019 13:51 Mocsta wrote: My PSA TL;DR I sheep my vote to Acro - He deserves this much for the only guy left giving a real shit about the game If this is it - Its been a bittersweet pleasure & I think Pandain + Rels are scum Im feeling much better about DF - I prob more wanted him to be scum, then I thought he was scum. I actually watched the whole thing and I think you're town now  I thought your claim was shitty but I understand the attempt now, and I think the reaction you got out of DF was pretty goodLots of things in the video ofc I don't agree with the scumread on me. You say I'm backseating and just popping off from time to time, and that's why I'm scum; but this doesn't apply to me. As scum, I take the town leadership and get the lynches I want. As town I do my own thing when I have time to play. p:There are two things I really liked in the video: - the BH post about lurkers. I also have the mindset that most of the scumteam are lurkers, and have been watching town self-desotry themselves from the beginning. That's why actually the best lynch everyday would have been someone like ExO; not the most exciting one, but a good chance to hit scum - Oats' response to rsoul's scumread of BC and DF, commenting that her DF's scumread is "the worst scumread he's ever seen". That's might be a good parnter indicator right there. I didn't find Acro's point on Oats / BC beta / alpha very scummy, but this is way better Now one question: why do you think my reasonning on Onegu(s claim is wrong? | ||
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On March 16 2019 23:54 Mocsta wrote: I agree with the onegu reasoning - that survivor is unlikely I just find it hard to accept lynching a guy with 10% chance to flip survivor when theres at least another 3 scummers Ironically i forgot i even scum read u. I was focused on pandain. I think exo and mz both look real shit for lack of presence this cycle Goijg to bed now. OK, so we agree on the principle. I just disagree it's 10% chance, more like 1% for me | ||
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On March 17 2019 00:01 Mr. Wiggles wrote: Before we get into the show, we are paging Professor Acrofales, paging Professor Acrofales. If you're still here, we would like to know your thoughts on one 'darthfoley'. We consider him the strongest alternate lynch to Oats that we can rally town behind today. how can he be stronger than ExO or MZ? | ||
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On March 17 2019 00:17 darthfoley wrote: The fact that MZ had a lot of heat on him D1, by good players who we have since confirmed Town, yet has stayed under the radar and has been just active enough to avoid a wagon starting... I think he’s likely to flip scum. What do you remember about his play from the last two cycles? For me, my perception is that he’s pretty much parked his ass behind “I’ll sheep you Acro, I believe in you!!” Without actually committing to anything. He did this about me, where he’s said that he’s willing to sheep acro’s read on me. It feels TMI in a sense: he doesn’t seem worried AT ALL that Acro has been kept alive day after day after a vigi claim. No tin foil, no second guessing. No assuming Acro could be wrong (and hence, kept alive). He’s left himself a lot of wide open doors on what we assume is LYLO, except for this one. Then there is the fact that he’s been quite inactive to boot. I mean, read the last two pages of his filter. Give me the creeps the fact that TT had MZ and Wiggles as scum just before dying is still in my mind too | ||
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