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On March 11 2019 08:51 Vivax wrote:
This anti-onegu sentiment you're stirring doesn't go unnoticed @ Grack, Mocsta, Ace
Hah ok
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I don't there's all that high chance of me dying but I have to go now and won't be back before deadline.
Town:
LS
Ticktock
TW (obv)
Vivax
Alakaslam (see post about slam mafia post count history)
Lean town
Acrofales
Ace
Pandain
Mr. Wiggles
Lean scum:
Chezinu - (I like the group on his wagon yesterday + Onegu reasoning on there likely being a scum option in the 3 Acro targets seems reasonable.)
Unsubstantiated scum guesses:
Mocsta - (I will go into later. Don't write him off based only on effort he has a dangerous scum game. Interaction with Palmar seemed very unusual.)
Rels - Started taking control of the thread to push the Ace lynch. Did not really engage in the game the same way when all of the stronger players were still here.
On March 09 2019 17:20 Vivax wrote:
Rels what happened to you? Did you get a brain transplant over night or is there a particular reason you sound entirely different from the first two days.
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On March 12 2019 03:55 Vivax wrote:
If I were mafia against a town Tubesock, I'd push the living shit out of him provided I'd actually be posting as mafia.
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On March 12 2019 08:08 sicklucker wrote:
What im not surprised at all by these nks. They just are lyncing down the vet list with goid rep (ace) i think most sane people townread tick.
Why were these night kills unsurprising but the night 2 ones were bad? What's your thought process there?
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On March 12 2019 21:34 LightningStrike wrote:
Me and Rels been talking in the QT and concluding that MZ is very likely Mafia based on the night kills.
WoS scumread him
Tina needed a closer look on him
Rayn was scumreading him? (Don't know if he changed his read or kept the read after he said MZ is possible scum)
Marv didn't say much on him
Koshi was townreading him
Iamp ???????
TT: Lynch into MZ and Wiggles
Ace: ??????
Plus Rels been scumreading him and I agree with him on that front he’s very likely to flip scum for us.
##Unvote
##Vote: Meapak_Ziphh
Looking back at his filter Rayn was really nailing his town reads. I see what looks like potentially pretty strong reason from Rayn to scum read MZ for his Sentinel read.
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On March 05 2019 16:28 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On March 03 2019 15:24 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
The only snag in my mind is why did he even bother telling the thread. If he legitimately hasn't read his role PM what advantage does it buy him as town to tell the thread about it. Like if you want your play to be "neutral" (which as palmar noted is a strategy that is inherently advantageous to mafia) why tell the thread what you're doing. That said I like the idea of policy lynching someone playing a strategy that is blatantly anti town. I'm going to vote Palmar for mayor and suspend my own campaign. Why did you write this sentence?
On March 05 2019 16:29 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I am like 99% sure that Meapak knows Sentinel is town.
I am trying to wrap my mind around this here and am going in circles a bit. From how I read it you think Sentinel might be not reading his role PM as scum to get an advantage but he is neutralizing his advantage by telling people?
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No I think that's wrong. Getting 2 kills for 1 isn't worthwhile if Chez is town and can be used as a potential counterwagon/mislynch. He's unlikely to be able to clear himself if he is town.
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I went deep into the bowels of HF's filter. This right here is a 10/10 case. I checked up on Mocsta's past scum games and fake rage is completely in character for a Mocsta scum game. I will write my own thing on Mocsta later but I think this is the best lynch for today and should have gotten more attention when HF was alive, but I didn't really notice it since it was buried in 34 pages of crap.
On March 05 2019 21:21 Holyflare wrote:Knowing now that Palmar was town clears up a few things and makes interactions look incredibly feigned. Take this guy for example: Main Palmar Points - TLDR if you're lazyMocstaMocsta begins the game in a point of unknowns and decides to read filters (I'll ignore that he doesn't actually get to reading mine, despite saying he would, for now). Made up nonsense that you only figure out if you look into itShow nested quote +Sentinel seems ok. Like his first couple posts were iffy but seemed quite comfortable/relaxed esp when asking for vote pile up. I didnt like acro in sentinel filter. Cheesy focus on lurjers.. reqd like he was polishing a turd.
Im not against a policy lynch but it would be purely that. I would prefer mayor vote on him so ppl are forced to take a stand for the lynch itself. This Mocsta post was made on March 03 2019 15:00 GMT. I've gone into Sentinel's filter and compared it to what actually happened in his filter Here (click me) and Sentinel's last post before this was post #936 at March 03 2019 02:46 GMT. Not once is Acrofales mentioned in the entirety of Sentinel's filter here. I've even checked the chains of EVERY single post in his filter before then and Acrofales is not mentioned at all, in any of them or even hinted at. So why does Mocsta say this? In my opinion I believe it was so that he could start going on Acro or at least "read his filter". Show nested quote +On March 04 2019 00:10 Mocsta wrote:
Acro filter is giving me tingles
Posting is quite hot/cold and the generic mafia stuff is over embellished - i get why palmar says its "logical" but doesnt mean it came from town.. its just general knowledge play in my opinion.
I woukd give him town credit for posting when saying hes busy but theres a overarching tone of ?anger / haste?.
My only hesitation is i already was leaning against him before i read filter - so i am interrsted in where others sit with acro.
Gonna read oats now
His Acro read is the most generic thing you can possibly post. Not only is it wishy washy in the sense he doesn't ACTUALLY give a substantial read but it doesn't actually say anything either. He's angry and hot/cold? ok? You get some other fluff: Show nested quote +On March 04 2019 00:25 Mocsta wrote:On March 02 2019 10:01 Trfel wrote:Hi, I am mafia So acro is banging on about lynch all liars and policy etc Why is this ignored?!? but he ignores Acro's basically 3rd post in the game: Show nested quote +On March 02 2019 16:17 Acrofales wrote:
I just started reading and 3 pages in stopped again. From this point onwards, I will be operating on a lynch all liars policy, because holy shit, mafia claims are the dumbest things I have ever seen. So yeah. Claim mafia beyond this point and I'll assume it's the truth. I also refuse to read anything else up to here, unless someone specifically points me somewhere in the first 23 pages worth reading.
Now can we keep the postcount reasonable? This isn't a mini, and I'm going sailing all weekend and have a deadline on Monday.
Thanks.
Acrofales, the townie. Which literally explains it. Acro even points this out in a post directed to Mocsta but Mocsta has his biggest scum read on this guy but never EVER acknowledges this post which perfectly dissuades any of the substantial point(s) he has. Mocsta finally un-scum reads Acro based on a post that doesn't quite make any sense from Acro. Acro says that BH is just like the people missing from his list but he's on there anyway which is literally the entire point of Tubesocks's post and Acro's post is essentially a list post that focuses on lurkers and people not doing much, which was exactly what Mocsta disliked Acro for in the beginning of the game! Show nested quote +On March 04 2019 22:14 Mocsta wrote:##unvote: acroI stopped scum reading him from #1416 onwards. Fingers in multiple pies, and consistent thought process throughout 3-4 of his 5 pages. Too much uncertainty/effort for mafia. I only played one scum game with iamp and he literally trolled the whole time. I recall that was what he was known for. Thats enough for me to give him a pass Day1 whether the case was good or bad. Acro is never mentioned again. Palmar Inconsistencies - The Bread and ButterHe says the following about Palmar: Show nested quote +Palmar filter was good because it had some quotes from rayn and acro. I like that rayn picked up on acro.. palmars counter about weak play are fair and aceo is a solid player. But i give higher credit to weekend and massive game = preference to cop out even if mafia. I do like palmat back and forth with rayn and even though i know palmar excels at pushing for thread soapbox position it read as if he was trying to work with the thread instead of pretend to keep up a facade. He says he likes Palmar's filter so far (this read through occurred when Palmar was at the start of page 2 of his filter) because Palmar is defending Acro and soap boxing about policy lynching, which he knows Palmar is good at, as both alignments! So he chooses an alignment for Palmar based on an arbitrary metric of weekend playing. That's ok in a vacuum. He even follows it up saying he's voting Palmar for mayor: Show nested quote +On March 04 2019 00:30 Mocsta wrote:
Going to bed
Im ok with palmar mayor to policy lynch sentinel
My lynch is trfel or acro. I will place on whoever has highest vote count at this point.
Ciao What's not cool is what follows after this: Show nested quote +On March 04 2019 14:05 Mocsta wrote:On March 04 2019 07:46 Holyflare wrote:
I also think Mocsta purposefully neglected to read my filter over the ones he "chose" so he could have an excuse to join the Palmar mayor wagon. Not true I was going to read urs last of the three. But palmars led me down the path it did and i was content I havent read urs and will avoid it as long as i can. Mainly because i suspect ur filter is big and cos i havent seen anything untoward from you that others quoted He's content with Palmar, read his filter and everything but 4 hours later he's all over my Palmar case that says I'm lynching Palmar: Show nested quote +On March 04 2019 18:27 Mocsta wrote:On March 04 2019 18:14 Holyflare wrote:On March 04 2019 18:09 Jockmcplop wrote:On March 04 2019 18:07 Holyflare wrote:
My mayor lynch will be on Palmar by the way. I can get behind this, but what's the reasoning behind it? Only talks about town reads, has no suspicions on pretty much anything in the game. Perpetuates nonsense policy lynch after he likes Sentinel's effort when he hasn't even read it. His last post about acro is entirely a wall of hedge whereby he looks like he's falsely weighing up Acro's alignment but really it's wishy washy and says nothing. His iamp read looks completely bs too for similar reasons to his acro read. Iamp is town but wait here's reasons I can say he's not town later in the game. None of this is concrete town palmar stuff. There's also the fact we can acknowledge that mafia were pushing for his candidacy if he does flip mafia Hf u swayed my mayor vote Now we're in a situation where Mocsta has liked everything about Palmar, has completely done a 180 and is now voting me for mayor to lynch Palmar and we're in a situation where Mocsta's mindset is that Palmar is scummy, or at least that I have a good platform based on lynching him. What happens next? It's the infamous Palmar/Mocsta rage explosion. 1. Mocsta criticises Palmar for misconstruing his filter: + Show Spoiler +On March 04 2019 19:49 Mocsta wrote:Show nested quote +On March 04 2019 18:55 Palmar wrote:On March 04 2019 08:14 Mocsta wrote:On March 04 2019 05:40 Pandain wrote:
I'm only halfway through and might not even completely finishing catching up tonight, but I'm just going to say anyone who favors policy lynches is completely making the wrong decision. We literally already have over 60 pages of information to find scum, let's not waste a lynch.
Favoring policy lynches encourages lazy play and for mafia just to blend in with bland reasons, and it doesn't benefit town because most people who get lynched from a policy lynched are the people who don't give a fuck (most likely town).
Policy lynches are only good as a threat to promote good behavior, they're not good to actually implement. But I'm pretty sure most people favoring them right now don't have that view.
alarm bell Berates town when not even caught up..... He's not berating town at all, he's making an argument on how to play the game. It's actually put forward in a pretty respectful way. Of course it's fucking wrong but that's not the point. I fully believe Pandain actually believes what he's say. Overall I dislike Mocsta's filter. On March 04 2019 00:28 Mocsta wrote:On March 02 2019 21:59 Trfel wrote:I actually kinda want to lynch sicklucker. He's currently contributed almost no reads (if I recall correctly, dislike of Acrofales and a town-to-meh read on rsoultin). Yet he took the time to defend himself verbosely from the slightest suspicion of rsoultin, which feels highly overdefensive, but his argument was defending his townread of rsoultin while his read, just previously posted, seemed far less committed: On March 02 2019 17:08 sicklucker wrote:
rsoultin is town dawg. maybe. na. maybe. na Does that make sense? It doesn't look like he's trying to find mafia, just trying to exist. Bad post and trfel knows it Town can have all these symptoms.. which is why he hesitates with i kinds want to... Okay, so you think it's a bad post... and then what? I mean, Mocsta is not wrong, town does stupid shit, but the entire point of the exercise is to figure out which stupid shit is done by mafia. Even the wording on "Town can have all these symptoms" doesn't invalidate Trfel's point that mafia could have those symptoms. If it's such a bad post do you want to investigate Trfel? Because you didn't post about him ever again since then. Or was it simply a defense of sicklucker? I didn't think your "not posting shit in the thread" read on sicklucker is strong enough to warrant defending him. Overall the feeling I get from Mocsta is he's either attacking or complimenting single posts (the two I quoted, some post by BC etc) without much direction. He's not trying to get anything done, he's just... posting. He's a really good candidate for mafia. yes my posts have no direction So why does that make me a good candidate for mafia. U clearly are skimming my less than one page filter because its clear i did investigste trfel and spelled out a clear conclusion. Again. Ither than me rescinding my mayor vote on yoy and agreeing with some hf points. Why are yoy treating my filter as worst possible scenario. Why are you ignoring exo.. 2. Mocsta thinks Palmar is arguing circular logic and is treating him like confirmed mafia already and doesn't like the cut of Palmar's jib: + Show Spoiler +On March 04 2019 19:58 Mocsta wrote:Show nested quote +On March 04 2019 19:49 Mocsta wrote:On March 04 2019 18:55 Palmar wrote:On March 04 2019 08:14 Mocsta wrote:On March 04 2019 05:40 Pandain wrote:
I'm only halfway through and might not even completely finishing catching up tonight, but I'm just going to say anyone who favors policy lynches is completely making the wrong decision. We literally already have over 60 pages of information to find scum, let's not waste a lynch.
Favoring policy lynches encourages lazy play and for mafia just to blend in with bland reasons, and it doesn't benefit town because most people who get lynched from a policy lynched are the people who don't give a fuck (most likely town).
Policy lynches are only good as a threat to promote good behavior, they're not good to actually implement. But I'm pretty sure most people favoring them right now don't have that view.
alarm bell Berates town when not even caught up..... He's not berating town at all, he's making an argument on how to play the game. It's actually put forward in a pretty respectful way. Of course it's fucking wrong but that's not the point. I fully believe Pandain actually believes what he's say. Overall I dislike Mocsta's filter. On March 04 2019 00:28 Mocsta wrote:On March 02 2019 21:59 Trfel wrote:I actually kinda want to lynch sicklucker. He's currently contributed almost no reads (if I recall correctly, dislike of Acrofales and a town-to-meh read on rsoultin). Yet he took the time to defend himself verbosely from the slightest suspicion of rsoultin, which feels highly overdefensive, but his argument was defending his townread of rsoultin while his read, just previously posted, seemed far less committed: On March 02 2019 17:08 sicklucker wrote:
rsoultin is town dawg. maybe. na. maybe. na Does that make sense? It doesn't look like he's trying to find mafia, just trying to exist. Bad post and trfel knows it Town can have all these symptoms.. which is why he hesitates with i kinds want to... Okay, so you think it's a bad post... and then what? I mean, Mocsta is not wrong, town does stupid shit, but the entire point of the exercise is to figure out which stupid shit is done by mafia. Even the wording on "Town can have all these symptoms" doesn't invalidate Trfel's point that mafia could have those symptoms. If it's such a bad post do you want to investigate Trfel? Because you didn't post about him ever again since then. Or was it simply a defense of sicklucker? I didn't think your "not posting shit in the thread" read on sicklucker is strong enough to warrant defending him. Overall the feeling I get from Mocsta is he's either attacking or complimenting single posts (the two I quoted, some post by BC etc) without much direction. He's not trying to get anything done, he's just... posting. He's a really good candidate for mafia. yes my posts have no direction So why does that make me a good candidate for mafia. U clearly are skimming my less than one page filter because its clear i did investigste trfel and spelled out a clear conclusion. Again. Ither than me rescinding my mayor vote on yoy and agreeing with some hf points. Why are yoy treating my filter as worst possible scenario. Why are you ignoring exo.. the more i think about this palmar post. Thr more annoyed i get Its bullshit. Im town and have no knowledge of scum or setup Im nkt rjnning for mayor The mayor / kynch is effectively spoken for.. What direction exactly is he expecting from me If i post. Its no direction. If i dont post. Im useless town tonbe vigged Hes creating a damned if you do. Damned if you dont srgument. Its bullshit and i sont like it. 3. Mocsta gets annoyed at Palmar's position, who he thinks is scummy(?) but treats Palmar like he's insulting him when Palmar could have just been mafia ruffling his feathers on purpose: + Show Spoiler +On March 04 2019 20:15 Mocsta wrote:Show nested quote +On March 04 2019 20:06 Palmar wrote:On March 04 2019 19:58 Mocsta wrote:
Its bullshit.
No On March 04 2019 19:58 Mocsta wrote:
Im town and have no knowledge of scum or setup
Neither does anyone else, doesn't stop them helping. On March 04 2019 19:58 Mocsta wrote:
Im nkt rjnning for mayor
So what? On March 04 2019 19:58 Mocsta wrote:
The mayor / kynch is effectively spoken for..
What direction exactly is he expecting from me
No it's not, the mayor race is very close and the lynch is on a very active player who is almost certainly going to make an effort not to get lynched. I'm expecting you to argue for your positions. On March 04 2019 19:58 Mocsta wrote:
If i post. Its no direction.
If i dont post. Im useless town tonbe vigged
Hes creating a damned if you do. Damned if you dont srgument.
Its bullshit and i sont like it.
This is incorrect. I want you to post, I'm just looking for your posts being in some coherent line of thought, some objective. If you want to make sure HF becomes the mayor, convince someone to help you do that. If you think Acro is the mafia, keep making the case. To be fair though, this outburst looks kinda less scummy so I'm on the fence on your alignment. Starting to think maybe you're just really, really bad and not mafia. *clap clap* you're just really, realy bad see. this is why this is the last game on this forum. Terrible mentality. To be honest, I didn't sign up to be abused like this. No you didn't hurt my feelings, but Im not gonna put up with this crap. I will give you one warning. Be a shithead like this again, and I will modkill. I have played fairly, and whether my style is to your liking, is YOUR problem to deal with. 4. Mocsta says Palmar is being malicious and misrepresenting a series of events: + Show Spoiler +On March 04 2019 20:21 Mocsta wrote:Show nested quote +On March 04 2019 20:18 Palmar wrote:On March 04 2019 20:13 Mocsta wrote:On March 04 2019 19:57 Palmar wrote:
I'm not treating your filter as worst possible scenario, I just looked at what was in it, which wasn't very much. I think it's not clear you investigated Trfel, you've not explained your reasoning for suspecting him beyond the one post I quoted. I'm not saying Trfel is town or anything, just that your reasons are trash.
At the top of this page there is a list showing the people I have opinion on, that's about a third of the game maybe. Why are you asking me about exo? Why not Ace? Conversion? BC? Oats? or anyone else out of the 20 or so people I haven't gotten around to reading yet? Why dont you ask me then to explain further. That's not my job. If I see 2 people vote Acro, one makes a case and actively tries to get him lynched and the other one is "I'm fine with lynching Acro" and then not another word, it's usually obvious which one I believe is invested in getting the correct lynch. The onus is on you to push your ideas. Bullshit. You are debating about philosophy of how to play the game. Just because I differ, doesnt make me any less town or scum. There is a time and place to push; and when I entered Day1, the game was already at somehwat of a steady-state. I dont believe sicklucker even made a case on acro, so you are being intentionally malicious in your recollection of events towards me. 5. Mocsta completely invalidates any kind of reactions he's had to Palmar by being wishy washy on him now: + Show Spoiler +On March 04 2019 20:28 Mocsta wrote:Show nested quote +On March 04 2019 20:23 Holyflare wrote:
Just keep me as mayor and palmar dies, easy life mocsta. I already have my major vote I need to contemplate the palmar mayor lynch a little bit more, as I can see his malicious posting to me being butthurt town. Then again, if he thinks so little of me, its unlikely that I made him butthurt. Then again, (again), I think I had the swing vote that see HF as mayor... So in short, I can see someone pumped for Mayor for the last game of TL, reciprocating in this fashion whether town or mafia. I need to reread your thing on him, and follow through with reading acro/trfel. /dribble + random bullshit over 6. Mocsta instead rages at Palmar again: + Show Spoiler +On March 04 2019 20:30 Mocsta wrote:Show nested quote +On March 04 2019 20:27 Palmar wrote:On March 04 2019 20:15 Mocsta wrote:On March 04 2019 20:06 Palmar wrote:On March 04 2019 19:58 Mocsta wrote:
Its bullshit.
No On March 04 2019 19:58 Mocsta wrote:
Im town and have no knowledge of scum or setup
Neither does anyone else, doesn't stop them helping. On March 04 2019 19:58 Mocsta wrote:
Im nkt rjnning for mayor
So what? On March 04 2019 19:58 Mocsta wrote:
The mayor / kynch is effectively spoken for..
What direction exactly is he expecting from me
No it's not, the mayor race is very close and the lynch is on a very active player who is almost certainly going to make an effort not to get lynched. I'm expecting you to argue for your positions. On March 04 2019 19:58 Mocsta wrote:
If i post. Its no direction.
If i dont post. Im useless town tonbe vigged
Hes creating a damned if you do. Damned if you dont srgument.
Its bullshit and i sont like it.
This is incorrect. I want you to post, I'm just looking for your posts being in some coherent line of thought, some objective. If you want to make sure HF becomes the mayor, convince someone to help you do that. If you think Acro is the mafia, keep making the case. To be fair though, this outburst looks kinda less scummy so I'm on the fence on your alignment. Starting to think maybe you're just really, really bad and not mafia. *clap clap* you're just really, realy bad see. this is why this is the last game on this forum. Terrible mentality. To be honest, I didn't sign up to be abused like this. No you didn't hurt my feelings, but Im not gonna put up with this crap. I will give you one warning. Be a shithead like this again, and I will modkill. I have played fairly, and whether my style is to your liking, is YOUR problem to deal with. Of course it is, I hate the way you've played so far this game, which is why I called it really really bad. It's you, not me, who's skirting the rules by threatening to get yourself modkilled. I'm not the asshole here, you are. I push people's buttons to make them react. I get annoyed because you greatly misconstrued my position on you as a "damned if you do, damned if you don't" scenario, when it's very obvious what the problem I have with your posting is. If you put words in my mouth, I have to call you mafia, unless I actually believe you believe what you're writing, in which case you're just not showing me the respect of actually reading what I'm saying, in which case I'm completely justified in calling you bad. It's super obvious I'm not against you posting. But for some reason you tried to paint it as such. After this exchange I actually don't think you did it because you're mafia. So what am I left with? fuck you palmar. im done 7. Mocsta forgets all about this Palmar outburst and votes Conversion based on Palmar's really really weak case on Conversion: + Show Spoiler +On March 04 2019 22:36 Mocsta wrote:Show nested quote +On March 04 2019 20:31 Palmar wrote:I don't like Conversion's filter. I especially hate this post: On March 04 2019 08:13 Conversion wrote:
I’m back sort of. I have interviews all week so wont play much today.
did MZ ever explain his reasoning on why he put Oats low on his scum list for scumreading me, the same as him, but excluded me from his to lynch list? also why he agreed with Oats making a large post of bullshit voted and saying “not town?”
if not I’d like to lynch him We all know he could've checked the answer in like 3 mouse clicks. He's not posting because he wants to know whether this happened. He's posting because he's very gently asking other people to allow him to have the position that he's considering having. It's a really, really scummy post. hmmm took me a few reads to understand this, and yes I get it now. If the read is strong, he would check it himself an ask for "have the position" as eloquently said. If the read is weak, he should sheep,which he does not allude to in the slightest. Even considering he is busy this is very lazy for town play. Good pick up and Im happy to vote ##Vote:;Conversion This case essentially boiled down to Conversion was too lazy to look up a point??????????????? It was enough to dissuade Mocsta from his earlier qualms with Palmar, enough to look past everything and vote for it, it was SO compelling. I don't believe it for a second. There's no way someone goes from that much hate to complacency and sheeping unless it was faked anger. If he liked this case enough to sheep Palmar then why, knowing that I would lynch Palmar, did Mocsta not switch his vote off of me either? He was still voting me for mayor the entire time too.
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On March 05 2019 22:06 Mocsta wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2019 21:54 Holyflare wrote:On March 05 2019 21:37 Mocsta wrote:On March 05 2019 21:34 marvellosity wrote:On March 05 2019 21:30 Mocsta wrote:On March 05 2019 21:27 marvellosity wrote:
That’s a decent case Why? Its taking worsw case explanation A lot of this is easy to explain as a townie with no knowledge. Hf does this every game we play when im town I simply am not wishy washy when scum. Again.ignore the big letyers. What did u actually like about it? I will admit you didn’t sound scummy to me from the few posts I’d read. I did just check sentinel’s filter though and I’m struggling to see where you got anything about not liking acro from it does it matter? It was either in sentinel sicklucker or palmar. Thise were the first three i read. I read sicklucker because j thought he was tubesock. I wanted to read tubesock cos last game i played with him he was a very well reasoned and rstiinal town viice that i thought woukd br an easy read. Let's fact check. Remember you specifically said the words: I didnt like acro in sentinel filter. Cheesy focus on lurjers.. reqd like he was polishing a turd. And the deadline is before March 03 2019 15:00 GMT SickluckerSL taking to acro about Lynch all Liars, no mention of lurkers from Acro + Show Spoiler +On March 02 2019 16:29 sicklucker wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2019 16:17 Acrofales wrote:
I just started reading and 3 pages in stopped again. From this point onwards, I will be operating on a lynch all liars policy, because holy shit, mafia claims are the dumbest things I have ever seen. So yeah. Claim mafia beyond this point and I'll assume it's the truth. I also refuse to read anything else up to here, unless someone specifically points me somewhere in the first 23 pages worth reading.
Now can we keep the postcount reasonable? This isn't a mini, and I'm going sailing all weekend and have a deadline on Monday.
Thanks.
Acrofales, the townie. what the hell did I just read. Your all bad so ill be bad so stop being so bad. also lynch all liars is the dumbest shit (at least here) and worrying about mafia claims. where did this majestic beast come from. mafiaish but def way to ego for me to handle for an entire mafia game SL commenting on Acro talking about spam: + Show Spoiler +On March 02 2019 16:31 sicklucker wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2019 16:27 Acrofales wrote:
Well, clearly failing as you just posted 3 one-liners in a row. Think. Then post. Also, my intention is quite obvious. I'm going away for the weekend and don't want to read 1000 posts like your last 3 when I get back. then just vote the person you think is mafia before you go and stop being such a weiner That's it. PalmarSo aside from the fact that rayn's post is just bad analysis (Acro and HF both look fine at the moment), his thing on me is pretty hilarious
Palmar saying he likes Acro and no mention of lurkers: + Show Spoiler +On March 03 2019 20:12 Palmar wrote:To be fair I mostly like Acro just for these two posts. They're the logical way to play the game. Kill the policy lynch, continue playing. Show nested quote +On March 03 2019 17:09 Acrofales wrote:
Enters Palmar: he claims to feel strongly about killing sent. So let him do it. All you need to decide is if Palmar is townie enough. But if we decide Palmar is townie enough to be mayor then he is free to kill whoever he likes. He sticks with sentinel and sentinel flips scum? We win, yay! Sheep Palmar into Armageddon. Sentinel flips town? We figure out if Palmars policy lynch is an ideological thing or a scum thing. Either way, we get information about Palmar out of this, which is a great thing to get out of D1.
Show nested quote +On March 03 2019 17:11 Acrofales wrote:
Oh, also, if sent was actually playing and being townie, I'd be more inclined to want him to live. But he has used this "foil" to be an attention whore and cop out of doing anything else so far. Not town play. On March 03 2019 20:16 Palmar wrote:
Like sure, if he is mafia and knows Sent is town, he could be setting up a pushback on me, but he'd have to be extra dumb to believe I'm afraid of following through with a good policy lynch because of town lashback.
I just think it's a weak play if he's mafia, and I like the fact he's not just focusing on the things in the thread right at that moment. I didn't actually read much of his cases. I got the feeling, possibly wrong, that he was reading and responding in the thread while still trying to filter out a few people. It looks like he's trying.
Like even if Sentinel flips town, lynching him is a good move for town right now. I have absolutely no qualms about killing people for playing anti-town. Mocsta liked these posts remember?: + Show Spoiler +
Palmar filter was good because it had some quotes from rayn and acro. I like that rayn picked up on acro.. palmars counter about weak play are fair and aceo is a solid player. But i give higher credit to weekend and massive game = preference to cop out even if mafia. I do like palmat back and forth with rayn and even though i know palmar excels at pushing for thread soapbox position it read as if he was trying to work with the thread instead of pretend to keep up a facade.
In this quote, which happens after reading sl/palmar/sentinel Mocsta has already pre-determined Acro looks scummy somehow by the way because he says "he likes that rayn picked up on acro" which means he got to Palmer's filter and already had this predisposition to dislike Acro. Uh-oh, it looks like we reached the end of all of their allotted time and we saw no mention of Acro focusing on lurkers or anything that would make Mocsta type what he did. What could that meaaaaaaaaaaaaaan? Lynch all liars? You are tunneled and embarrassing yourself Will. Ok, no one mentioned the word lurker, and? Why can that not be my own interpretation or summation of policy lynch. You are doing your usual thing of nitpicking phrasing that is not congruent with how you view things. It doesnt make me scum. It makes you tunneled. You might not respect me as a player, but you should respect me enough not to spruik such blatantly and as you proved, easy to confirm as false, information. Seriously, waste of time. Im going back to my game of AC. I've done my courtesy, no more replies.
I fully believe this is a tactic. When both Palmar/HF give benign purely game-related reasons for scum reading Mocsta he deflects it into them disrespecting him as a player/person.
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On March 06 2019 22:37 Mocsta wrote:
Rayn
I havent read acro case yet
But one small pattern i noticed is that he uses phrases recently put into thread by others
The most recent being blatantly false from hf which i think he used in response to u?
Im not sure he is even aware of this
He also used something i wrote before
To me that says hes paying GREAT attentiin to whats being written
Not just a skim
Its a big town sign to me.. food for thought
One second break from my hostile filter diving to say that I said the phrase "egg on my face" once and Acro has used it twice now lol.
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Mocsta filter actually isn't as bad as I thought past around page 3 or so. The one consistent impression I get is that he seems scared of confronting strong players.
I dislike the big Ace scum read post. He wrote an entire essay about Ace's take on the mayor role without any real point behind him needing to comment on it. That reads like effort for effort's sake to me when somebody writes so much about something that can be summarized in 1-2 sentences.
I still think HF's point on the Palmar contradictions shows scum behavior.
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On March 13 2019 04:40 Oatsmaster wrote:
I legit cannot see df being mafia, acro when you come back, you wanna enlighten me?
+1 to this.
DF gives me some town feels.
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I'd actually put Jock in the lean scum category at the moment.
He's clearly very intelligent but he reads so sterile to me. It's like he's missing a certain spark of townie first game excitement. Just a lot of pointing out of the least useful filters.
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On March 13 2019 06:58 darthfoley wrote:Show nested quote +On March 13 2019 03:54 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On March 13 2019 03:40 Acrofales wrote:On March 13 2019 03:37 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Acro and oats are either of you looking for reads on particular people? I'm mainly looking for reads on you with this line of questioning. Any insight into the wagons of the day would be appreciated tho. Those seem to be: you, TS, Chez, DF, maybe FF, maybe Slam. I've had chez as town since d1, i wouldn't feel comfortable lynching into him until it was like 2v1 and I had a strong read on the other person. I still think FF is scum. I reread DF earlier today, i wouldn't put him as my number 1 scum read but he definitely pushed a lot of bad wagons that ended up on town. I have no idea how to read slam TS could be scum. Also another note on rels: why in the world was rsoul shot instead of him? Like the whole mason thing pretty much confirmed her as town in many people's eyes but then scum shot TT and Ace instead of any other claims? Show nested quote +On March 13 2019 04:37 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On March 13 2019 04:35 Oatsmaster wrote:
Either tube or chez On March 13 2019 04:36 Acrofales wrote:On March 13 2019 04:28 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Oat and Acro, outside of me, who do you think is most likely to pop scum?
DF I think of those three DF is the most likely to be red. You guys both buy FF's claim? Dat one hour read progression
Nah it's consistent with his reads of you/TS/Chez as quoted.
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Ace kill has potential to be a 3p attempt at killing mafia instead of a mafia night kill.
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On March 11 2019 07:45 kitaman27 wrote:
Day Three Vote Count
[UoN]Sentinel (7): Pandain, Grackaroni, Mocsta, Ace, Ticktock, Acrofales, LightningStrike
Ace (6): Oatsmaster, Rels, Jockmcplop, Chezinu, [UoN]Sentinel, darthfoley
Chezinu (4): Alakaslam, Vivax, Fecalfeast, Onegu
Alakaslam (2): Tumblewood, sicklucker
Tubesock (1): Mr. Wiggles
Mr. Wiggles (1): Meapak_Ziphh
Not voting (2): ExO_, Tubesock
[UoN]Sentinel is currently set to be lynched.
Please let us know if you notice any mistakes. The deadline is Sunday, Mar 10 11:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00), which is in .
It was Chezinu!
Probably not but would be funny
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Gasp!
On July 12 2010 04:14 Chezinu wrote:
So mafia, am I your godfather, the veteran, the dreaming mad hatter, or just your worse nightmare..wait a minute a nightmare is a dream..
I Seez you Chezzzzinu.
On March 04 2019 03:25 Chezinu wrote:Show nested quote +On March 03 2019 18:33 Tubesock wrote:On March 03 2019 18:23 Blazinghand wrote:I don't RNG *every* time, heh. Why not RNG Palmar? I know you can rig that shit. This is crazy! I had a dream last night we eliminated 3 mafia in the night post. Palmer was second on the list. It was crazy seeing red at the end of day 1 in my dreams...
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On March 14 2019 02:00 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On March 14 2019 01:57 Onegu wrote:On March 02 2019 20:50 BloodyC0bbler wrote:As I said before. I have night continental shifts so my activity this weekend will be sporadic. Current reads that matter. Rsoultin
Iamperfection Chezinu Now to go into the why. Iamperfection has literally done nothing so far this game thus far. He accused chez for posting to post while providing next to - content in his own posts. The one post he makes where he outlines a "read" he doesn't go into it at all then back burners it to harass someone for not playing at the level he wants. I also hate people who talk about what any power role should do day 1 (actively talking about vig shots) as that leads to the potential of power roles outing themself to be sniped by mafia. Rsoultin. The guy accuses a player (Chezinu) of posting fluff rp posts that provide no content. This post specifically screams at every core of my being. On March 02 2019 20:27 rsoultin wrote:
Pft. Chez was just such a non-entity in his roleplay posts. I don't care about the roleplay. It's just if he's engaged enough in the thread to roleplay, and also to try to communicate with other players and make comments about the game, I expect something shiny and smart from him. It doesn't have to be new.
But what he was giving were non-committal turds and I don't even know what that spoilered lynch list or ls emoticon thing was about. Chezinu is a known quantity to RP in mafia games. Hes literally done it in some capacity in basically every game I can remember playing in with him. He always provides some form of content in said posts. He has literally given reads on players, and has been providing actual content without RP for a fucking change. Chez has clearly been doing more to push some form of conversation on players to force them to voice opinions. Clearly done more to help this game than most to this point. Yes the guy has had some shit posts, but hes also playing the game seriously. This post btw Lynch chez What you're suggesting doesn't make any sense. A mafia colored him green, so chez is scum? Just...What?
It's possible. I played with BC scum in a big game before where he made angry list posts that just placed all of his teammates as mafia for the wifom value instead of just trying to make reads normally like you would as town.
I did not like this post for that reason since Mocsta was in that game and should be familiar that BC does WIFOM like that.
On March 11 2019 10:23 Mocsta wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2019 20:50 BloodyC0bbler wrote:As I said before. I have night continental shifts so my activity this weekend will be sporadic. Current reads that matter. Rsoultin
Iamperfection Chezinu Now to go into the why. Iamperfection has literally done nothing so far this game thus far. He accused chez for posting to post while providing next to - content in his own posts. The one post he makes where he outlines a "read" he doesn't go into it at all then back burners it to harass someone for not playing at the level he wants. I also hate people who talk about what any power role should do day 1 (actively talking about vig shots) as that leads to the potential of power roles outing themself to be sniped by mafia. Rsoultin. The guy accuses a player (Chezinu) of posting fluff rp posts that provide no content. This post specifically screams at every core of my being. On March 02 2019 20:27 rsoultin wrote:
Pft. Chez was just such a non-entity in his roleplay posts. I don't care about the roleplay. It's just if he's engaged enough in the thread to roleplay, and also to try to communicate with other players and make comments about the game, I expect something shiny and smart from him. It doesn't have to be new.
But what he was giving were non-committal turds and I don't even know what that spoilered lynch list or ls emoticon thing was about. Chezinu is a known quantity to RP in mafia games. Hes literally done it in some capacity in basically every game I can remember playing in with him. He always provides some form of content in said posts. He has literally given reads on players, and has been providing actual content without RP for a fucking change. Chez has clearly been doing more to push some form of conversation on players to force them to voice opinions. Clearly done more to help this game than most to this point. Yes the guy has had some shit posts, but hes also playing the game seriously. Gut feeling, this makes me think Chez is town. My theory is this: BC didnt want to lie about 3 alignments - I really think most ppl playing scum want to avoid this and so, we know iamp and rsoultin already.... He knew Chez was town; has that old-boy familiarity. So this lines up quite well with "stretching the legs and warming up". After all, its been a while since he played scum i assume? Thoughts?
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I don't agree with ExO's reasoning on this at all but I'm down with the lynch.
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