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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 29 2018 23:40 GMT
#61
I gotta get some sleep and tomorrow is gonna be a 12 hour day, for now i am not too worried about anyone you wanna choose for the chancellor except for the next player after you in president candidate queue. I am gonna try to check the thread in the morning, and during work if possible, and for sure i will be back ~2hours before the deadline.
table for two on a tv tray
prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
October 29 2018 23:51 GMT
#62
On October 30 2018 08:14 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I think you want to have as much information as possible early on in the game. I don't mean "you can also elect people you think are obviously scummy" as like in every game like this reads ultimately matter in conflicts, but basically at least the first 2 "turns" we should have completely different governments. The player who first gets elected as president cannot be a councellor on second election, but regardless of the first policy's outcome i don't think we should include the first councellor into the second government. Fascist policies, even if elected, in fact do not "kill us" that quickly imo.

We should have a town president though, since if the councellor gets 2F cards we cannot know what actually happened, or like... it's a shitty situation where the game usually breaks loose (scum president can always lie they got 3F and were forced to give away 2F).

Idk i don't really wanna talk about scum strategy and hopefully they fuck up something. Get a town president, it doesn't really matter even if the coucellor is scum early on. Dont elect any same people on first two governments. That's pretty must the gist of it.

Can't we count the policies and if too many fascist policies appeared, we know that someone is lying?
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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
October 29 2018 23:55 GMT
#63
On October 30 2018 08:31 raynpelikoneet wrote:
There is also always going to be two policy cards in the deck when the deck is reshuffled, so you can never be 100% sure of all of the cards.

But if at this point all presidents declared more than the total number of fascist policies, we can deduce that the one who declared three was lying?
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happykrogan
Profile Joined March 2017
Germany408 Posts
October 29 2018 23:57 GMT
#64
I will obviously try to pick a towny person, but it will pretty much be a 4/7 guess at this point.

The good thing for liberal presidents is that, even if you pick scum (except if you get 3 scum policies), you either 100% "score a point" for the liberals, or you get confirmation on the chancellor. Only for yourself but a liberal knowing an alignment will help us anyway.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
October 29 2018 23:58 GMT
#65
On October 30 2018 08:14 raynpelikoneet wrote:
regardless of the first policy's outcome i don't think we should include the first councellor into the second government. Fascist policies, even if elected, in fact do not "kill us" that quickly imo.


Why not go the resistance route and just roll with the guys that are providing positive results? Sure a facist policy isn't going to end the game right away, but wouldn't it be better to ride the initial liberal policy pushers as much as possible until they give us a reason to doubt them?
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
October 30 2018 00:03 GMT
#66
On October 30 2018 08:40 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I gotta get some sleep and tomorrow is gonna be a 12 hour day, for now i am not too worried about anyone you wanna choose for the chancellor except for the next player after you in president candidate queue. I am gonna try to check the thread in the morning, and during work if possible, and for sure i will be back ~2hours before the deadline.

Hey that's me!
happykrogan
Profile Joined March 2017
Germany408 Posts
October 30 2018 00:05 GMT
#67
On October 30 2018 08:58 kitaman27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2018 08:14 raynpelikoneet wrote:
regardless of the first policy's outcome i don't think we should include the first councellor into the second government. Fascist policies, even if elected, in fact do not "kill us" that quickly imo.


Why not go the resistance route and just roll with the guys that are providing positive results? Sure a facist policy isn't going to end the game right away, but wouldn't it be better to ride the initial liberal policy pushers as much as possible until they give us a reason to doubt them?


To be honest, I think that sounds like the more towny way to do it.
prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
October 30 2018 00:06 GMT
#68
Is it a good idea to make the chancellor someone who is easy to read?
http://i.imgur.com/M7t7egx.png
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
October 30 2018 00:08 GMT
#69
lol he made Palmar the fascist.
happykrogan
Profile Joined March 2017
Germany408 Posts
October 30 2018 00:21 GMT
#70
On October 30 2018 09:06 prplhz wrote:
Is it a good idea to make the chancellor someone who is easy to read?

Can you please explain, what thinking process led you to asking this question?
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
October 30 2018 00:21 GMT
#71
Hmm seems interesting. I guess I should look over some probabilities.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
October 30 2018 00:38 GMT
#72
P(3 fascist) = 24.26%
P(2 fascist, 1 liberal) = 48.53%
P(1 fascist, 2 liberal) = 24.26%
P(3 liberal) = 2.94%

So... if you're chancellor and you're handed two fascist cards then you should probably be pretty suspicious of the president.
prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
October 30 2018 00:39 GMT
#73
On October 30 2018 09:21 happykrogan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2018 09:06 prplhz wrote:
Is it a good idea to make the chancellor someone who is easy to read?

Can you please explain, what thinking process led you to asking this question?

It's that things stay more simple if we can trust the first governments. It's actually I thought, let's just elect kita but he's super hard to read I think, so he can mess things up early and we can't trust anything that's going on later because we don't know if he lied about policies or not.
http://i.imgur.com/M7t7egx.png
prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
October 30 2018 00:43 GMT
#74
Maybe it doesn't make a lot of sense since it's the president who we sort of have to trust to reveal the policies. Make we can elect the governments when we like the president? But I guess that's sort of obvious.
http://i.imgur.com/M7t7egx.png
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
October 30 2018 00:47 GMT
#75
Why were you thinking of electing Kita?
prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
October 30 2018 00:51 GMT
#76
On October 30 2018 09:47 Grackaroni wrote:
Why were you thinking of electing Kita?

He's sort of a nice guy.
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Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
October 30 2018 00:59 GMT
#77
On October 30 2018 09:51 prplhz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2018 09:47 Grackaroni wrote:
Why were you thinking of electing Kita?

He's sort of a nice guy.

I'm kind of tempted to guess that you are fascist and Kita is hitler.

I'm also a shitty scum hunter though so meh. I like this format because people can't kill me very easily.
happykrogan
Profile Joined March 2017
Germany408 Posts
October 30 2018 01:00 GMT
#78
Hm ok. I just wondered why you would ask that as a question and not just say your thoughts about it.
Because it is kind of a strange question to ask, if you didn't already thought about it.
byj
Profile Joined November 2015
494 Posts
October 30 2018 03:55 GMT
#79
On October 30 2018 07:13 happykrogan wrote:
Funny thing: I can't watch this anthem video in my country.

You can watch it if you go to the bottom and change your region. Often have to do that here to watch WW2 related stuff. Great how to prohibit us from looking up our past
Also I find that anthem terrible, I prefer

Going to sleep now, sorry for the basically blank post, but 5AM here, or 6AM without time change.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 30 2018 08:36 GMT
#80
happykrogan who'd you pick rn if you made a choice?
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