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happykrogan
Profile Joined March 2017
Germany408 Posts
October 30 2018 09:16 GMT
#81
On October 30 2018 17:36 raynpelikoneet wrote:
happykrogan who'd you pick rn if you made a choice?


Maybe Kitaman, because I thought this was towny.

On October 30 2018 08:58 kitaman27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2018 08:14 raynpelikoneet wrote:
regardless of the first policy's outcome i don't think we should include the first councellor into the second government. Fascist policies, even if elected, in fact do not "kill us" that quickly imo.


Why not go the resistance route and just roll with the guys that are providing positive results? Sure a facist policy isn't going to end the game right away, but wouldn't it be better to ride the initial liberal policy pushers as much as possible until they give us a reason to doubt them?


It's not a strong townread, but It's the best thing I have so far.

On October 30 2018 09:59 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2018 09:51 prplhz wrote:
On October 30 2018 09:47 Grackaroni wrote:
Why were you thinking of electing Kita?

He's sort of a nice guy.

I'm kind of tempted to guess that you are fascist and Kita is hitler.

I'm also a shitty scum hunter though so meh. I like this format because people can't kill me very easily.

I understand where you come from here, but I doubt they would try to communicate so obviously.
happykrogan
Profile Joined March 2017
Germany408 Posts
October 30 2018 09:18 GMT
#82
On October 30 2018 18:16 happykrogan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2018 17:36 raynpelikoneet wrote:
happykrogan who'd you pick rn if you made a choice?


Maybe Kitaman, because I thought this was towny.

Show nested quote +
On October 30 2018 08:58 kitaman27 wrote:
On October 30 2018 08:14 raynpelikoneet wrote:
regardless of the first policy's outcome i don't think we should include the first councellor into the second government. Fascist policies, even if elected, in fact do not "kill us" that quickly imo.


Why not go the resistance route and just roll with the guys that are providing positive results? Sure a facist policy isn't going to end the game right away, but wouldn't it be better to ride the initial liberal policy pushers as much as possible until they give us a reason to doubt them?


It's not a strong townread, but It's the best thing I have so far.

Show nested quote +
On October 30 2018 09:59 Grackaroni wrote:
On October 30 2018 09:51 prplhz wrote:
On October 30 2018 09:47 Grackaroni wrote:
Why were you thinking of electing Kita?

He's sort of a nice guy.

I'm kind of tempted to guess that you are fascist and Kita is hitler.

I'm also a shitty scum hunter though so meh. I like this format because people can't kill me very easily.

I understand where you come from here, but I doubt they would try to communicate so obviously.


Or Maybe they want us to think that idk.
I start to doubt.
I hope that the choice will be easier at deadline.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
October 30 2018 09:52 GMT
#83
Alright. I'll elaborate further later on when i am off work since quoting (and even typing) on phone is like hell for me.

I dont understand prplhz' thought process at all and i think its possibly scummy. I mean the "lets pick townie dudes" but "i kinda wanted to include kita because he seems nice" (being nice has nothing to do with being townie or not).

I dont think kruger and kitaman can be in a same scumteam unless kruger is exactly hitler because of how the interactions on the thread have gone so far. Kruger seems town anyways so i am okay with whatever he picks.

I think kita has a flaw on his resistance proposal, but i dont really think that makes him anything.
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happykrogan
Profile Joined March 2017
Germany408 Posts
October 30 2018 09:58 GMT
#84
Maybe it's not a good idea to choose someone, even with only a little suspicion on him, when we have this little information. Especially if my pick would be based on a very weak read.

On the other hand, if I choose him and he enacts a fascist policy, we could already have two likely scums in him and prplhz.
Do you think kitaman being scum would make prplhz scum?
Do you think prplhz being scum would make kitaman scum? (prplhz might try to throw shade on a townie)
Should I just choose someone else, even without a townread, hoping it makes it more probable to get a liberal?
Does this prplhz kitaman thing matter at all or is it just random stuff people say at early game? (I mean it sounds logical that scum would try to hide innuendos there)

It might seem like a little thing, but we don't have much else to discuss about so far.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
October 30 2018 10:23 GMT
#85
No i dont think its a scum-scum interaction unless kitaman is hitler and prplhz is "claiming mafia" to him but i think it is extremely unlike because it is just plain out a stupid thing to do, as you'd want to do it in a way that noone else catches it and look what happened.
table for two on a tv tray
happykrogan
Profile Joined March 2017
Germany408 Posts
October 30 2018 10:31 GMT
#86
On October 30 2018 19:23 raynpelikoneet wrote:
No i dont think its a scum-scum interaction unless kitaman is hitler and prplhz is "claiming mafia" to him but i think it is extremely unlike because it is just plain out a stupid thing to do, as you'd want to do it in a way that noone else catches it and look what happened.

Yeah, that's what I thought as I first read it, but then I got a little paranoid. Also there isn't much else to talk about and I need more talk to make a good decision.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
October 30 2018 10:44 GMT
#87
I think - if prplhz is scum - it's more likely he is trying to appeal to a townie, than claiming mafia to hitler. 2x normal fascist sounds wayyy too ridiculous for me to even consider.

Anyways i think the whole thought process i gathered from his posts sounds scummy to me.
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happykrogan
Profile Joined March 2017
Germany408 Posts
October 30 2018 11:10 GMT
#88
Hitler + normal fascist was what I thought about. I didn't even consider 2 normal fascists.
But independent of that, prplhz also appeared at least kind of odd to me. I think his question combined with the explanaition was weird and seems unnatural.

That's the main reason I started to wonder if Kitaman was a good choice.
happykrogan
Profile Joined March 2017
Germany408 Posts
October 30 2018 12:00 GMT
#89
On October 30 2018 20:10 happykrogan wrote:
That's the main reason I started to wonder if Kitaman was a good choice.

I started to wonder if he might not be a good choice and before I thought he might be. My english might have been misleading there.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
October 30 2018 12:10 GMT
#90
Well i have given my opinion on that matter.
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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
October 30 2018 12:25 GMT
#91
On October 30 2018 18:52 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Alright. I'll elaborate further later on when i am off work since quoting (and even typing) on phone is like hell for me.

I dont understand prplhz' thought process at all and i think its possibly scummy. I mean the "lets pick townie dudes" but "i kinda wanted to include kita because he seems nice" (being nice has nothing to do with being townie or not).

I dont think kruger and kitaman can be in a same scumteam unless kruger is exactly hitler because of how the interactions on the thread have gone so far. Kruger seems town anyways so i am okay with whatever he picks.

I think kita has a flaw on his resistance proposal, but i dont really think that makes him anything.

My thought process was the other way around, I didn't think "let's elect townie dudes and also kita". I thought "let's elect kita". And then I thought "okay maybe let's elect townie dudes and maybe not kita because he's hard to read and if we elect him now, the doubt it creates will linger for a good while". In my posts I actually say "there are some reasons to not elect kita that applies more to him than to others".

In many elections in mafia, you don't necessarily elect the most townie person, but some combination of townie and skilled. For example for mayor. I just want to elect townie people in this game because the chancellor doesn't actually have to do anything other than push through a liberal policy. He doesn't need to be any good at mafia to do that.
http://i.imgur.com/M7t7egx.png
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
October 30 2018 13:12 GMT
#92
I would prefer to not elect a president right away to have more time to discuss. Like in resistance
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
October 30 2018 13:15 GMT
#93
On October 30 2018 09:06 prplhz wrote:
Is it a good idea to make the chancellor someone who is easy to read?

As opposed to what ? Hard to read ? What's the benefit of that ?
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
October 30 2018 13:18 GMT
#94
On October 30 2018 21:25 prplhz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2018 18:52 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Alright. I'll elaborate further later on when i am off work since quoting (and even typing) on phone is like hell for me.

I dont understand prplhz' thought process at all and i think its possibly scummy. I mean the "lets pick townie dudes" but "i kinda wanted to include kita because he seems nice" (being nice has nothing to do with being townie or not).

I dont think kruger and kitaman can be in a same scumteam unless kruger is exactly hitler because of how the interactions on the thread have gone so far. Kruger seems town anyways so i am okay with whatever he picks.

I think kita has a flaw on his resistance proposal, but i dont really think that makes him anything.

My thought process was the other way around, I didn't think "let's elect townie dudes and also kita". I thought "let's elect kita". And then I thought "okay maybe let's elect townie dudes and maybe not kita because he's hard to read and if we elect him now, the doubt it creates will linger for a good while". In my posts I actually say "there are some reasons to not elect kita that applies more to him than to others".

In many elections in mafia, you don't necessarily elect the most townie person, but some combination of townie and skilled. For example for mayor. I just want to elect townie people in this game because the chancellor doesn't actually have to do anything other than push through a liberal policy. He doesn't need to be any good at mafia to do that.

Ok. But I don't understand you townread kita in the first place for being nice. When apparently you think hes a good scum player
prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
October 30 2018 13:34 GMT
#95
On October 30 2018 22:18 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2018 21:25 prplhz wrote:
On October 30 2018 18:52 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Alright. I'll elaborate further later on when i am off work since quoting (and even typing) on phone is like hell for me.

I dont understand prplhz' thought process at all and i think its possibly scummy. I mean the "lets pick townie dudes" but "i kinda wanted to include kita because he seems nice" (being nice has nothing to do with being townie or not).

I dont think kruger and kitaman can be in a same scumteam unless kruger is exactly hitler because of how the interactions on the thread have gone so far. Kruger seems town anyways so i am okay with whatever he picks.

I think kita has a flaw on his resistance proposal, but i dont really think that makes him anything.

My thought process was the other way around, I didn't think "let's elect townie dudes and also kita". I thought "let's elect kita". And then I thought "okay maybe let's elect townie dudes and maybe not kita because he's hard to read and if we elect him now, the doubt it creates will linger for a good while". In my posts I actually say "there are some reasons to not elect kita that applies more to him than to others".

In many elections in mafia, you don't necessarily elect the most townie person, but some combination of townie and skilled. For example for mayor. I just want to elect townie people in this game because the chancellor doesn't actually have to do anything other than push through a liberal policy. He doesn't need to be any good at mafia to do that.

Ok. But I don't understand you townread kita in the first place for being nice. When apparently you think hes a good scum player

I didn't. It was early in the game and I had no reads so I went with kita because I think he's nice. I didn't think he was more town than others or that him being nice outside of the game made him more town.
http://i.imgur.com/M7t7egx.png
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
October 30 2018 13:58 GMT
#96
On October 30 2018 22:34 prplhz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2018 22:18 Rels wrote:
On October 30 2018 21:25 prplhz wrote:
On October 30 2018 18:52 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Alright. I'll elaborate further later on when i am off work since quoting (and even typing) on phone is like hell for me.

I dont understand prplhz' thought process at all and i think its possibly scummy. I mean the "lets pick townie dudes" but "i kinda wanted to include kita because he seems nice" (being nice has nothing to do with being townie or not).

I dont think kruger and kitaman can be in a same scumteam unless kruger is exactly hitler because of how the interactions on the thread have gone so far. Kruger seems town anyways so i am okay with whatever he picks.

I think kita has a flaw on his resistance proposal, but i dont really think that makes him anything.

My thought process was the other way around, I didn't think "let's elect townie dudes and also kita". I thought "let's elect kita". And then I thought "okay maybe let's elect townie dudes and maybe not kita because he's hard to read and if we elect him now, the doubt it creates will linger for a good while". In my posts I actually say "there are some reasons to not elect kita that applies more to him than to others".

In many elections in mafia, you don't necessarily elect the most townie person, but some combination of townie and skilled. For example for mayor. I just want to elect townie people in this game because the chancellor doesn't actually have to do anything other than push through a liberal policy. He doesn't need to be any good at mafia to do that.

Ok. But I don't understand you townread kita in the first place for being nice. When apparently you think hes a good scum player

I didn't. It was early in the game and I had no reads so I went with kita because I think he's nice. I didn't think he was more town than others or that him being nice outside of the game made him more town.

The problem i have with that is that i dont understand why you simultaneously think lets elect townies (which should be a norm) andd lets elect kita who you dont have a townread on.
table for two on a tv tray
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
October 30 2018 14:47 GMT
#97
On October 30 2018 09:39 prplhz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2018 09:21 happykrogan wrote:
On October 30 2018 09:06 prplhz wrote:
Is it a good idea to make the chancellor someone who is easy to read?

Can you please explain, what thinking process led you to asking this question?

It's that things stay more simple if we can trust the first governments. It's actually I thought, let's just elect kita but he's super hard to read I think, so he can mess things up early and we can't trust anything that's going on later because we don't know if he lied about policies or not.


lol I read this like 5 times and I still can't tell if you were arguing in favor of me being elected or against me. Based on your later posts it seems like you were in favor, but here it seems like you were outlining a reason why I shouldn't be chosen. Which way was it?

On October 30 2018 09:59 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2018 09:51 prplhz wrote:
On October 30 2018 09:47 Grackaroni wrote:
Why were you thinking of electing Kita?

He's sort of a nice guy.

I'm kind of tempted to guess that you are fascist and Kita is hitler.

I'm also a shitty scum hunter though so meh. I like this format because people can't kill me very easily.


What makes you jump to the most likely scenario being that we share alignment? From my view, I'm looking for players that are trying to emulate liberal play by buddying up, as opposed to showing their cards right off the bat. prpl may fit that bill for trying to get on my good side, but I'm not sure yet.

Rels is another one who I'd prefer to avoid as Chancellor round one, but that's mostly a gut read for his generic post about wanting more time to solve the game that kinda seems like an attempt for liberal cred.

Krogan looks pretty good so far I'd say. Even if we don't pass his government, he should be considered later on.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
October 30 2018 14:49 GMT
#98
On October 30 2018 18:52 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I think kita has a flaw on his resistance proposal, but i dont really think that makes him anything.


What makes you think that it's better to elect separate governments as opposed to rolling with a government that provides positive results? It's obviously not a perfect plan since it depends on the draw of the cards, but if we get lucky with the first group we could manage to bang out a whole bunch of successes.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9857 Posts
October 30 2018 14:59 GMT
#99
On October 30 2018 23:47 kitaman27 wrote:
What makes you jump to the most likely scenario being that we share alignment? From my view, I'm looking for players that are trying to emulate liberal play by buddying up, as opposed to showing their cards right off the bat. prpl may fit that bill for trying to get on my good side, but I'm not sure yet.

It just seemed like it could be a way for him to signal that he's a fascist rather than him trying to buddy you, but I'm going to assume he mentioned you just because he considers you a skilled player.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9857 Posts
October 30 2018 15:01 GMT
#100
Let me just say it this way:

If I was Hitler and I saw someone say "Maybe we should just elect Grackaroni" I would assume that guy was a fascist.
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