[M]Chill Hop Mafia

On June 20 2018 16:29 KelsierSC wrote:
i'm open to moving the deadline back an hour or two if it helps European friends.

On June 20 2018 21:48 Rels wrote:
Websites rules dont prevent hydras, there is no technical problem in doing it.

First, this is the easiest, lowest-stress, lowest-demand game to wolf in that I've ever played in

On June 26 2018 09:29 Mocsta wrote:
easy and low stress is natural

The addition of low demand reads forced.

On June 26 2018 09:30 Mocsta wrote:

Ping....

...did it in a way that contributed to discussion in a healthy way [...] which feels like a town thing

On June 26 2018 10:31 CopCake wrote:
When there is a real one so yeah.

On June 26 2018 08:15 Calix wrote:
It was clearly written before he received his role because if he was an investigative role, he (or she, since this is Gemma?) would know that Cops on this site don't get N0 checks.

Thus it's not AI.

I would like to know more about the two players in the hydra though. How many games have they played, where are they from, stuff like that.

On June 26 2018 10:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I am not too opposed to the tt scumread either.

On June 26 2018 11:16 CopCake wrote:
Rayn I am surprised I am not town to you 😞

On June 26 2018 11:20 Regfan wrote:
@Rayn - Thanks for the link explanation. I'm a little troubled by your recent posting and my discussion with Gemma on you hasn't really helped (She's equally conflicted now too), not hugely happy about your sort of lack of response towards my initial few posts here (Recognition that the initial post from Gemma was a C/P and not a "Oh the post makes no sense" type thing would be the logical sort of reaction to it at minimum) and the way you've gone about responding to the Ticktock thing is ehhhhh in that people state a scum read on him earlier, you don't really weigh in then, I post a town read on him, you state you disagree with the scum reads on him 9 minutes later. It feels sort of like, picking the direction you're going based on my reads which I think you'd certainly be doing as mafia to a degree. So mind talking to me and walking me through on what your reads are entirely right now (Don't care if some of it sounds stupid) as well as what /you/ specifically like about TickTock, would be nice to see some thought process from you on that.

On June 26 2018 11:35 Regfan wrote:


My read on TT is without a lick of meta involved in it, if you've done some meta research that suggests he's town here, I think mentioning that is rather important -- I need to be able to follow /how/ you're getting to reads in this game here and the way it played out didn't really do that. What's your reads/thoughts on Mocsta at the moment? We both read a lot of his posts as him feeling somewhat detached from the actual game thread in a way I see mafia do more often than not, where he's there posting things that seem /somewhat okay/ but then looking at the body of content and going "huh". I'd imagine you've got some actual meta on him, is this something you'd say fits more his town/scum play and why?

(Pretty much if you're town here dude I need to see it via your thought process/solving, please)

-R

On June 26 2018 21:13 Mocsta wrote:
small thing

But if calix is mafia. Its not with tictock

On June 26 2018 21:42 Regfan wrote:

a) Cake never having made a townread during the first cycle isn't a reason to townread her in this game, that's such a copout way to townread someone and I don't understand how it's real.

b) You aren't even explicitly saying that you do townread her or giving reasoning for townreading her, so much as saying there's no reason to scumread her.

c) The way you're talking through this whole post as if your reads have already been thoroughly established, but they haven't, and there's a huge gulf of missing process where I have no idea where anything you're saying is coming from. It's like you've jumped into positioning yourself in a certain way that feels really forced.

c) You're not talking about Calix as if you even think he's mafia. You're coming at this from sideways still, and it's like you're more interested in making Calix look stupid and bad than really scumreading him or actually analyzing anything he's doing.

d) You completely ignored my posts on CopCake, despite apparently townreading her, which again makes me feel like you're not really interested in seriously digging into her alignment or approaching any of this honestly, so much as discrediting Calix's push on her.

And Regfan just told me while I was writing this that you're dating CopCake, so that's a thing apparently. Don't think it really changes how I am reading this from you very much.

On June 26 2018 21:58 Regfan wrote:
Alright, thanks rayn, I'll make a point of rereading your ISO. It's late and I'm overtired and grumpy, so I'll do it tomorrow.

What I meant with missing process was more the "here are suddenly all of the hard stances that I have" out of nowhere type thing, that I didn't see coming at all from your previous posts. Which, I guess can just be playstyle? I need to touch base with Regfan, he wanted to take point on reading you and I trust him more with it given his familiarity with your meta anyway.

-G

On June 26 2018 22:43 Regfan wrote:
(Also I kind of suspect that Regfan is going to read through and end up exactly where I'm at right now given how closely matched all our thoughts on the game so far have been, which means we'll probably put out a readlist or something tomorrow that will be full of goodfeels about where we're at with the game. Looking forward to seeing what you think of it / how your reads compare.)

On June 26 2018 22:52 Regfan wrote:
We look at different things and talk about things in different ways, but the overall way we look at the game and the reads we end up at are typically very very similar (and they have been this game, with a few little discrepancies because he has meta knowledge that I don't and he's in a better place mentally/emotionally than I am). I'm not sure why else you might feel like we've been disconnected, it feels to me like we've been talking out of each other's brains for the most part so far.

Actually going to sleep now.

-G

On June 26 2018 12:23 Mocsta wrote:
The difference in play between you and gemma leans me mafia.

On June 26 2018 13:21 Mocsta wrote:
My recollection of regfan is lots of "process" nitpicking that leads nowhere

On June 26 2018 22:52 Regfan wrote:
We look at different things and talk about things in different ways, but the overall way we look at the game and the reads we end up at are typically very very similar (and they have been this game, with a few little discrepancies because he has meta knowledge that I don't and he's in a better place mentally/emotionally than I am). I'm not sure why else you might feel like we've been disconnected, it feels to me like we've been talking out of each other's brains for the most part so far.

Actually going to sleep now.

-G

On June 26 2018 21:42 Regfan wrote:

a) Cake never having made a townread during the first cycle isn't a reason to townread her in this game, that's such a copout way to townread someone and I don't understand how it's real.

b) You aren't even explicitly saying that you do townread her or giving reasoning for townreading her, so much as saying there's no reason to scumread her.

c) The way you're talking through this whole post as if your reads have already been thoroughly established, but they haven't, and there's a huge gulf of missing process where I have no idea where anything you're saying is coming from. It's like you've jumped into positioning yourself in a certain way that feels really forced.

c) You're not talking about Calix as if you even think he's mafia. You're coming at this from sideways still, and it's like you're more interested in making Calix look stupid and bad than really scumreading him or actually analyzing anything he's doing.

d) You completely ignored my posts on CopCake, despite apparently townreading her, which again makes me feel like you're not really interested in seriously digging into her alignment or approaching any of this honestly, so much as discrediting Calix's push on her.

And Regfan just told me while I was writing this that you're dating CopCake, so that's a thing apparently. Don't think it really changes how I am reading this from you very much.

On June 26 2018 23:19 Calix wrote:


I didn't call her mafia for saying 'there is a real seer'. I was criticising the 'putting effort into a meme makes someone townie' implication ^^

On June 26 2018 23:26 Conversion wrote:


We might be reading things differently, but CopCake's post to me seemed like she was saying more so that no mafia would (realisticly) ever posture that he/she is a seer, when there is a real seer, (so the post is fake).

On June 26 2018 23:29 raynpelikoneet wrote:

FTFY.

On June 26 2018 23:52 Holyflare wrote:


I was ready to scum read mocsta for his "redundant post" and because he scum read regfan who looked quite not scummy but then he made this post. I think the regfan reevaluation is really towny since nobody was countering his arguments and there's no need to posture that regfan could be town if mocsta was mafia.

I also didn't have a strong lean on anyone else really and most of what he says here echos what I just said a few posts ago.

Just the points he says to look into slowly started going from opposite of what I was thinking to converging to my skim through.

On June 27 2018 00:18 Holyflare wrote:


Why is it annoying rather than him just being town?

On June 27 2018 00:22 Vivax wrote:
Basically none of you seem to give a shit about the though process behind my posts. You just call them scummy or townie as it suits your needs.

On June 27 2018 00:28 Holyflare wrote:


I mean, he doesn't. He just acknowledges that his initial points were shit and then makes the point you've been repeating that the hydra heads don't align in their thoughts. So why don't you like it?

On June 27 2018 00:31 raynpelikoneet wrote:

I like it?
Why don't you?
Why do you like him saying he isn't sure but still hasn't got anything better to offer?

Once again, this isn't about Mocsta for me. You call him mafia every game regardless of his affiliation for the stuff he says that is irrational or "irrational". Why are you so agreeable now?

On June 27 2018 00:35 Tictock wrote:
The pointing out inactives stuff is weak as well. I've seen both mafia and town do this so it is not very AI. The point would be stronger if that was ALL cake had posted, but it is far from the only thought Cake has presented so I find this pretty underwhelming.

On June 27 2018 00:38 Vivax wrote:


I don't know might take a guess later.

Why is this relevant?

On June 27 2018 00:45 Holyflare wrote:


How can I be more specific???

Mocsta looked scummy because he gave me a get out of jail free card and scum read regfan (who I thought looked not bad).

I start to write a post while catching up about mocsta being mafia but I look at the next few posts and he had reevaluated that read and given a list post.

I read the list post and his reevaluation on regfan was good because :

Nobody was saying anything against mocsta scum reading reg
He acknowledges his points weren't the best

Then he makes a good commentary on what I pretty much think about the rest of the players in the game.

Thus I let mocsta off and wanted to see more from him before starting a shit fight and calling him mafia all over again.

I'd say light town read at a stretch.

On June 27 2018 00:53 Holyflare wrote:


I'm not gonna pretend like I remember what mocsta's original points were because I don't really. Have I been bamboozled?

On June 27 2018 01:13 Calix wrote:


If there's one thing more annoying than a rayn, it's a rayn who doesn't have the decency to be correct in his accusations ^^

On June 27 2018 01:19 CopCake wrote:
In addition, he seems to know me because he told Gemma about me and rayn being a couple 🤔 or at least has a little of knowledge of me. Idk, it is super odd.

On June 27 2018 01:30 CopCake wrote:


Huh, well you know he asked about me and I told him to ask you or slendy but asking outside the thread wouldnt it be bad? :p

But if you have told him before then nevermind.

I just dont like him, he seems mafiaish to me.

On June 27 2018 01:42 Conversion wrote:
But raynpelikoneet being an ass, what else is new

On June 27 2018 20:17 Regfan wrote:
-> I actually really liked Calix's point 2) on Cake in #172, is very much what we were thinking and talking about amongst each other at the time in that we could see a world where Cake was TMI'ing & pocketing players in the way they were giving town reads, the fact that Calix picked up on the same thing we did there is actually a very good sign regardless of whether Cakes scum or not. I find the interaction that follows with Cake to be fairly easy to follow and make plenty of sense. Dudes posts throughout his entire ISO actually scream town, a lot and his reaction in posts like #290, #298 and #307 all ring genuine; his analysis of the section and pull back on Cake there. Gemma linked me to #381 and I'm in agreement that I don't think that's how scum react towards being pushed there at all. Dude is very very clearly town, will try and spend some time running through the cases against him because he shouldn't ever be the lynch here, like ever.

- R

On June 27 2018 21:40 Regfan wrote:
@Rayn - Lets talk, want to put your brain in for a second if you can find it?

Maybe there's a reason that Gemma and myself weren't playing much as a hydra for the prior parts? Hmmm. Let me think, oh yeah, I wasn't fucking here for ~20 hours and mentioned a few times I'm going to my girlfriends last night and would have zero chance to get to a computer. You know, that thing that I haven't been joining games of mafia for a while due to and why I've had to tell you no to playing prior games, yeah that? This really should be something that you'd have realised fucking ages ago. Oh and me playing this game a jigsaw puzzle and that I'm trying to break things into blocks and solve them that way re; what I was saying with you/calix/cake, the same thing where I've mentioned I assess things differently and look for anti-alignments in games to you before I agreed to come play a game here. And it really shouldn't be that difficult to understand why I'm more hesitant when it comes to reading you here, I pretty much know if you're scum and I state a town read on you here, you'll shoot me N1 and then make fun of me post-game for misreading you; sure I may have had a fairly good grip on reading you in the past, and heck, maybe I still do, but I've made it pretty clear in that I've changed a lot as a player since back then and I'm normally more patient when it comes to some reads. I wanted to be able to interact with you a lot and actually see you gamesolve to be able to solidify a read on you. But yeah, you're town, I don't think you go with this much of a stupid attack here if you're scum at all and think it's literally just another case of you not thinking about anything deeply at all, or stepping back and analysing and trying to solve.

So congrats, you've properly tilted me, happens very fucking rarely, but yeah, you're wrong on Calix, you're town and you're still completely unbearable to play with and I'm going for a run because I don't want to even deal with this shit anymore.

- R

On June 28 2018 01:22 CopCake wrote:
Rip that horrible match for Mexico lmaooook jesuschrist

On June 28 2018 01:57 Holyflare wrote:


Shockey did not dumb tell himself town. He's said it was a "trap" to bait mafia.

On June 28 2018 01:58 Regfan wrote:

Because it's fucking toxic, rayn made Regfan hate the game when he's trying to get back into mafia and find time to enjoy it again, I love Regfan and you have no idea how much that horseshit fucking pisses me off it's actually unbelievable how insensitive rayn and his girlfriend have been towards Reg. Not to mention half the players have just been insulting us for our playstyle. So yeah it's a shitty game.

On June 28 2018 02:04 Calix wrote:
Can we save the personal drama for the post-game please? Or take it to PMs? Or PM the host? Or literally anything other than talking about it in a mafia game?

On June 28 2018 02:07 Holyflare wrote:


Stop.

On June 28 2018 01:55 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Shockeyy dumbtold him as town.

On June 28 2018 04:16 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Why does shockeyy have votes on him?

On June 28 2018 04:18 Tictock wrote:


Please, make a case on me.

On June 28 2018 04:22 Holyflare wrote:
Keep this on the down low and don't tell rayn but he might be mafia.

On June 28 2018 04:25 Calix wrote:


Then why are you asking things like "omg why does shockeyy have votes" when TWO OF YOUR SCUM-READS ARE VOTING FOR HIM, spamming the thread with "Shockeyy dumbtelled himself town" (which he really didn't lmao) and not doing anything to get me lynched?

According to you, two of your scum-reads are lynching this like, super-obvious townie and you're not doing anything to stop it.

On June 28 2018 04:25 Holyflare wrote:


You. I don't believe you think shockeyy has dumb telled himself over the kp thing when even he himself said it was a trap.

Did you hear what he gained from the trap? I haven't. Even though many people responded.

On June 28 2018 04:25 raynpelikoneet wrote:

super scummy post.

On June 28 2018 04:27 Vivax wrote:


A valid qualm since we're supposedly teammates you shouldn't come in and qq about Shockey being at three votes.

All just part of our grand mafia plan

On June 28 2018 04:32 Calix wrote:


So you made a scummy post, got called out, claimed it was a trap and now you blame Conversion for 'ruining it' and giving you no results whatsoever?

Well that's sure convenient!

On June 28 2018 04:35 Calix wrote:


Literally the opposite of what I've said, rayn.

On June 28 2018 04:40 Calix wrote:


???

Are you drunk or something?

On June 28 2018 04:46 Tictock wrote:


? Why does the timing matter, I said in that post I was moving my vote to you.

I'm going to stop responding to posts after this kus people keep asking stuff I've already stated, so clearly what I'm writing is not being read.

You've basically just given a couple reasons to scum read me, talked about me and Calix being scum together, and not discussed anything else. Your reasons for scum reading me are pretty flimsy in my mind yet you are just content in repeating them and not doing anything else.

I am also thinking HF and Rayn could be scum atm too kus they just have these extremely narrow views with no signs of reevaluating anything. Also I find it odd they have been so passive towards each other.

On June 28 2018 05:03 raynpelikoneet wrote:
And what was your read on me after?

On June 28 2018 05:09 Holyflare wrote:


One of the worst points I've seen in this thread and that's saying something. I think I've reevaluated literally every person in this thread by now.

On June 28 2018 05:19 Calix wrote:


I thought I was 100% mafia? lol

On June 28 2018 05:20 CopCake wrote:


You dont see the TT x Calix mafia team?

On June 28 2018 08:38 Regfan wrote:
HF, Cake, Rayn, Moscta and Calix are still all town, if you fuckwits can learn to come and work together this games still winnable.

Hunt inside Vivax, Shockey, TT, GSM, Conversion and Koshi.

TT did vote to save himself and at :59, timing that makes more sense for mafia to do it where there's minimal time for people to react to the vote and 5he way the EOD played out there's some worlds that he fits inside of as mafia, Vivax-TT is 100% a world people need to entertain and look inside of tomorrow.

There's probably only ever 1 in Shockey/Vivax which is why Shockeys flip would have helped immensely but if you hit scum in these two would suggest moving the other to the side for a bit.

Vivax / TT + 1 of Koshi/TSM sort of fits a few things.

Okay you've got my thoughts albeit I've missed a lot of content from pages 30 to 50, now can feel better about leaving and never coming back to this game again.

Oh and everyone that actually voted Boxer can go fuck themselves.

Outtahere

-R

On June 28 2018 11:45 CopCake wrote:


I like regfan’s posts.

I think Gemma overeacts a lot.

On June 28 2018 12:45 Tictock wrote:
Rayn, what do you make of EoD?

Also sorry you rolled mafia.

On June 27 2018 22:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Like i am not sure but i am pretty sure Shockeyy has dumbtold himself town.

On June 28 2018 01:55 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Shockeyy dumbtold him as town.
Holyflare, regfan is not mafia i can say it wirh 100% confidence.

On June 28 2018 04:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:

How can not anyone see this?

On June 28 2018 04:16 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Why does shockeyy have votes on him?

On June 28 2018 22:35 CopCake wrote:


This is odd

On June 28 2018 23:43 ShoCkeyy wrote:
I don't have that much time to sit around and give fresh views, the same shit I said yesterday will be the same shit I say today. My top two scum reads haven't changed since BF was voted off, which I didn't want to kill AFK because they're not usually mafia... but yea, I'm positive mafia jumped on the wagon of voting either I or BF off of course. Which is why Calix is the worst player...

All day pushing me yesterday, and at the last second decides to vote BF off because what?.... You could of easily voted me off, but you didn't what type of shit is that. D2 is going to be the same, half the town wants to vote me off, why do I have to sit around and waste my time waiting for it to happen? I rather just get my day over with at work.

On June 29 2018 00:15 ShoCkeyy wrote:


Why's that? You voted off one townie, why go for the second?

On June 28 2018 09:33 Holyflare wrote:
2018 power tier list sheep or die

Calix
TT

Vivax
Conversion
Mocsta

Koshi (potential to move up)
Copcake
Slenderman (why)

Reg (possibly not with rayn)
Shockey (possibly not with rayn)
Rayn

On June 29 2018 00:23 Holyflare wrote:


I'm bad with nks? :D

On June 29 2018 00:25 raynpelikoneet wrote:

Well you thought i would ever shoot Superbia last game, i gave a list of 5 people who would. Three of them were mafia.

On June 29 2018 00:25 Holyflare wrote:


I don't understand why you or anyone even said this. I never ACTUALLY said you would do that nk.

On June 12 2018 16:26 Holyflare wrote:


Well I've based my read on you on facts and what you did this game. You've based your read on clearly false meta that was obviously terrible. You're not in a position to criticise.

Nk says you are. Gut says probably not.

On June 29 2018 00:33 Holyflare wrote:
Everyone knows I'm dead tonight

On June 29 2018 00:34 CopCake wrote:
Btw someone has something to say about Koshi?

On June 29 2018 01:40 Calix wrote:
Anyway I am going to stop defending myself here because I am getting close to tilted and it's really fucking obvious why I did what I did at EOD.

On June 28 2018 23:50 ShoCkeyy wrote:
What thoughts? Two townies were up for lynch wow. The only thing I got from it is that mafia is in the two wagons easy.

On June 29 2018 11:41 Mocsta wrote:
im on fuckn p8

im not going to waste my time reading this shit coming up on a weekend, if you are just going to throw away everyone from d1 and call me mafia for fuckn stupid non-alignment indicative reasons.

i have made up my mind
##Vote: conversion

See you at deadilne.

On June 29 2018 11:42 CopCake wrote:


I am voting him lol, I don't know how a town HF would start a wagon out of nowhere on bf.

On June 29 2018 11:43 CopCake wrote:


If TT was town then why didnt mafia lynch him?

easy misslynch

On June 29 2018 17:58 Calix wrote:


Yes, because his reasons for pushing TT are still terrible.

But it makes the most sense if ShoCkeyy is mafia because if we have town!ShoCkeyy is town and mafia!Conversion then Conversion would have zero incentive to give a fuck because the wagons would ALL be town and he wouldn't need to show face with his TT posts.

Look at the posts I quoted in my wall-post. Especially the ones where he tries claiming TT's martyring is mafia but doesn't explain how it pushes mafia agenda. He just says that if TT is town then he needs to get gud innit.

On June 27 2018 22:04 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Vivax, why can't it not be something they do? If he claims he can't die, there's only two reasons, he's a role, or he's mafia. There's a 50/50 chance, and if he doesn't die tonight, does that increase the likely hood he is mafia? So let me put it in easier terms, math.

If there is three mafia shots, three town will die at night + the mislynch leaving us in a really bad spot for tomorrow.
If there is two mafia shots, we're still in a bad spot for this next lynch and the following lynch after will really be the game breaker.
If there is one mafia shot, we have three cycles to play.

If he's already claiming something, then I rather take it as mafia who has a solid chance of surviving all three cycles if he's "unlynchable".



My town read is because Vivax town read you early into the game, and you've only been trying to get him lynched, which is even odder to me since it's both you and Tictock pushing for Vivax without any dialogue happening between you too.

On June 28 2018 01:14 Tictock wrote:
Looks like I was actually reading pg 26, which I have now finished.

I need to move my vote off Reg kus I am starting to think I have just been wrong and a bit tunneled on him, and even of not seems to be a solid player to keep around given what I've been reading.

I am warming up to a ShoCkeyy lynch, so will move my vote there. He is going to be the next name on my list of dives, but unless he posts a bunch more that will be a short filter.

On June 29 2018 21:59 Mocsta wrote:
Is there any similarity to hf with the last game he was scum?

Like i suppose he hasnt been complete dog with a bome this gamr and im still surprised he dropped his scum read on me but thats about it on the negatives for me

On June 29 2018 22:03 CopCake wrote:


I only remember a town holyflare yes making mistakes but being super active, aggresive, etc.

We “discussed” a lot but we were both town, therefore he thinks I am “confusing”

Never forget my “the plays theory” and my “this doesnt clear someone” help us caught up gerip? Idk but well HF will say it was all by himself.

On June 29 2018 22:04 raynpelikoneet wrote:

I cannot tell to be honest. I seriously thought he was mafia last game because he simply just chose to not care about anything regarding kitaman and iamperfection who were quite obviously mafia. And with rsoultin the game before that. It bugs me when he doesn't do something i expect him to do. I still don't know why he chose to vote for boxerfred instead of TT. Of all the people a guy with zero posts.... I don't know why he would do that as mafia either but it doesn't sit well with his MO anyways.

On June 29 2018 22:12 Mocsta wrote:

What was the game

I will try to have a read

Having said that. I was looking through cc filter for the hf case she mentions and seen anlotbof stuff about tt emotiin appeals to save calix which i wasnt aware of.

Tt makes more sense to me than hf. Esp with shockeyy points

On June 29 2018 16:40 Calix wrote:
I didn't like Mocsta vs CopCake, something seemed 'off' there to me.

On June 29 2018 22:18 CopCake wrote:


Because if Shockey flips town (it would) his teamates Tt and Calix are done.

On June 29 2018 22:29 Mocsta wrote:
#1626 is dead swrious

On June 29 2018 22:34 CopCake wrote:
Like it is strange how Calix campaigned HARD to save TT. Tbh I have never ever in my life seen someone go that HARD to save a person.

On June 29 2018 22:35 Mocsta wrote:

Its more than that....

Calix is talking about vote counts which is never mentioned in the thread

Like its a fredudian slip from calix. Legit.

Now you could say she just did a count so was thinking about it..but it comes out so natutal as if HF had done the count for her

On June 29 2018 22:36 raynpelikoneet wrote:

I have lynched myself to save Risen who i was sure is town.
I have also fakeclaimed masons with you (and Oats) to save you.

soo... it is not scummy.

On June 29 2018 22:39 Mocsta wrote:

Bottom line sounds truthful
Feels emotional

I do comments like that as scum quite often

On June 29 2018 22:39 CopCake wrote:


You looooooveeee HF D:

On June 29 2018 22:52 Mocsta wrote:
Also.. if hf is mafia.. why cant he shoot rayn?

This i dont get

On June 29 2018 22:56 CopCake wrote:
Also Mocca you got mad at me for it

“Vivax was on the right path, lets kill rayn”

“You know, mafia can kill people to frame”

“What a waste of a post”

On June 27 2018 02:07 Conversion wrote:
I don't think either Vivax or Calix is mafia for all that's worth at this very exact moment in the game. Or if they was one, it'd be a 1/1 split. No way mafiateam Vivax and Calix randomly jump on Copcake like that.. no reward medium risk play.

On June 29 2018 23:04 CopCake wrote:
TT, he has ##shoot: self in the voting thread

Does it mean he is a vig or is it common to do here?

On June 29 2018 23:14 Holyflare wrote:
I still don't think tt risks his life by not voting shockeyy if he has a mafia team to care about?

On June 29 2018 23:17 Conversion wrote:


I didn't think either of them looked particularly mafia to me, and I was replying against the sentiment of a Vivax-Calix team as that made no sense. If I was really trying to figure out what I was saying, it was that if there was a mafia between them, it would be Calix, not Vivax.

I'm not quite sure I understand your second part. Are you trying to say that it doesn't include CopCake, who wasn't a scum read early on in my filter?

On June 26 2018 23:15 Conversion wrote:
oh I derped. Calix did answer me, and then her transition into the Copcake read was answering me. d'oh



This stood out to me because in the same sentence, she says it's a joke ('probably tried to be funny') but then also gives reasoning that implies Regfan is town for 'putting effort into claiming seer when there is a real seer'. I do not understand how she concludes that a 'meme' or 'joke post' makes someone town just because they put a lot of effort into it. Especially when she says straight afterwards that it is "probably a meme". The thought process seems a bit inconsistent here.

if your points didn't change, why is this a scum read? if anything it seems more town-indicative to make a statement such as "there is a real seer" when there isn't a "seer"

On June 26 2018 23:27 Conversion wrote:
I agree with rayn in that I don't think that implication was there, I think she was literally saying things bluntly in that claiming seer when there is a real one is more town indicative.

Not that it's absolutely true that a mafia wouldn't fake claim as a joke, but I'm not seeing this implication that you are.

On June 29 2018 23:25 Holyflare wrote:


They both scum read shockeyy though? It's just called being wrong

On June 29 2018 23:25 Holyflare wrote:


They both scum read shockeyy though? It's just called being wrong

On June 29 2018 23:31 Conversion wrote:
I'm going to step back and will answer questions directed to me if it clears things up. Switching jobs sucks. Also I'm at a risk of OMGUS casing Calix, so need the fresh air anyways.

bbl

Koshi can technically be mafia too, after i switched to TT Koshi came in and "betrayed me". I can't be sure if that would have been the case with his Calix vote too as i don't find it too unlike he could have voted for his scumbuddy just to "re-evaluate later" since no reason given other than sheep rayn. I am not entirely sure if i believe Koshi "doesn't read anything just sheep rayn" but some point he then comes in and suddenly is interested in what's going on. 50/50 imo.

On June 29 2018 23:35 Conversion wrote:
Last point. The thing is I can maybe see town!Calix casing me, but I don't see the logic behind town!Calix suddenly having a eureka moment and saying Shockeyy+Conversion is the team? It just seems like a cheap mafia shot to try and keep the Shockeyy momentum and if he flips town, which he most likely will, to keep another easier mislynch open that isn't her mafia team.

On June 29 2018 23:38 raynpelikoneet wrote:

The thing is before Shockeyy was mafia you were all town for her for the same shit she now calls you mafia for.

On June 29 2018 23:44 Holyflare wrote:


Is it bad to say nobody?

On June 29 2018 23:27 raynpelikoneet wrote:

wait what the fuck...
If Calix and TT are both town here Shockeyy can actually be mafia.

On June 28 2018 13:15 raynpelikoneet wrote:

I most likely made a mistake.
Should have stayed on mafia calix.

On June 30 2018 00:54 Holyflare wrote:


As mafia there is absolutely no reason to not vote shockey unless they are partners or tt cares about how he looks after a town shockeyy flip (I don't think he'd care personally)

As town you can just not give a shit about voting because you're not culpable to two other people and wouldn't feel bad if you didn't vote.

Thus it's why I think tt is town (I even think tt/shockey is unlikely still).

On June 30 2018 05:01 Koshi wrote:
Playing Port Royal with new friends. I'll play tonight.