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On June 26 2018 10:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:Calix literally didn't take a stance on anything since the conclusion says "not alignment indicative". Which is by the way the opposite you claimed a conclusion towards your post should be in the first place. Secondly, the conclusion sucks even more since the first paragraph of her post includes an indirect assumption that your hydra is town, which again contradicts clearly to the conclusion she has made. There is no reason to believe, in case your post is pre-written, that you do not believe you have a cop check on N0 as a cop so a smart person, instead of making that post would instead of writing a nice looking nice sounding nonsense post ask "why don't you wanna claim your check right now?" If you think people who are being nice are more likely to be town and people who are not nice are not, then you have a very terrible view of what this game is about. Also if what you said here: Show nested quote +...did it in a way that contributed to discussion in a healthy way [...] which feels like a town thing ..if you actually believe this, then you should probably call yourself mafia for the very first post you made this game.
I'm not sure I saw anything in Calix's post that made the assumption that Gemma-Reg is town, but I overall agree with rayn here.
Calix's switch in stance from "lets rando vote someone for lol's" to "thats not AI, don't vote" seemed sudden to me. Especially when my suggestion to pile votes on Reg had nothing to do with alignment. I feel slightly hypocritical here though, kus I switched my own stance of "I don't wanna vote pointlessly" to off the cuff voting someone just kus they did something I think is stupid.
Actually maybe I do see what you mean here Rayn, there is no way Calix should be able to make any assumption about when Reg prepared that post. PM's went out an hour before the game started so there was plenty of time to decide to do something like that after getting a role, and there should be no real way to tell when someone makes that call.
Anyways, I'll optimistically call Rayn and Mocsta town here.
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I have played with you, I think, if you ever had a pony avatt (not my little pony, like a real animal)
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-R
Going to finish chatting with Gemma about where her heads, do another go over of the thread and I'll let you know where I'm at then.
-R
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On June 26 2018 10:17 Holyflare wrote:
We should be lynch ticktock though.
Nah, I'm unlynchable this game. Ya'll just don't know it yet.
Minor townpoints to you though for wanting to lynch me over the guy who is probably just gunna say lynch HF all game.
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On June 26 2018 10:49 Tictock wrote:Show nested quote +On June 26 2018 10:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:Calix literally didn't take a stance on anything since the conclusion says "not alignment indicative". Which is by the way the opposite you claimed a conclusion towards your post should be in the first place. Secondly, the conclusion sucks even more since the first paragraph of her post includes an indirect assumption that your hydra is town, which again contradicts clearly to the conclusion she has made. There is no reason to believe, in case your post is pre-written, that you do not believe you have a cop check on N0 as a cop so a smart person, instead of making that post would instead of writing a nice looking nice sounding nonsense post ask "why don't you wanna claim your check right now?" If you think people who are being nice are more likely to be town and people who are not nice are not, then you have a very terrible view of what this game is about. Also if what you said here: ...did it in a way that contributed to discussion in a healthy way [...] which feels like a town thing ..if you actually believe this, then you should probably call yourself mafia for the very first post you made this game. I'm not sure I saw anything in Calix's post that made the assumption that Gemma-Reg is town, but I overall agree with rayn here. Calix's switch in stance from "lets rando vote someone for lol's" to "thats not AI, don't vote" seemed sudden to me. Especially when my suggestion to pile votes on Reg had nothing to do with alignment. I feel slightly hypocritical here though, kus I switched my own stance of "I don't wanna vote pointlessly" to off the cuff voting someone just kus they did something I think is stupid. Actually maybe I do see what you mean here Rayn, there is no way Calix should be able to make any assumption about when Reg prepared that post. PM's went out an hour before the game started so there was plenty of time to decide to do something like that after getting a role, and there should be no real way to tell when someone makes that call. Anyways, I'll optimistically call Rayn and Mocsta town here.
Dude wtf
You actually read the thing you said it was nosense/wouldnt read?
O_o
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On June 26 2018 08:15 Calix wrote:
It was clearly written before he received his role because if he was an investigative role, he (or she, since this is Gemma?) would know that Cops on this site don't get N0 checks.
Thus it's not AI.
I would like to know more about the two players in the hydra though. How many games have they played, where are they from, stuff like that.
If the underlined part is really what Calix believes, there is no reason to assume a mafia fakecliming to be a cop would not believe they don't have a N0 check (since that's how it clearly works where Gemma usually plays, and there are indications of that for anyone whop has ever played anywhere else since it's almost always how it works).
So instead of writing the post off as non-alignment indicative any smart person -- again, believing what Calix clearly implies here -- would try to possibly catch a mafia in a lie by asking "so why don't you wanna claim your check now?"
Calix has struck me as a player who digs into stuff and small discrepancies even when they possibly don't matter (especially in the game where i was mafia with bugs and oats), and this "ignorance" towards a possibly revealing discussion seems very un-Calix-like.
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Am I town or am I mafia rayn?
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Thank you to everyone who actually bothered to read Regfan's first post. I can now more or less know what was in it without ever putting in the effort myself.
Also, this cake does not appear to be a lie. Man I might need to slow down all these townreads and actually call someone mafia soon.
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I can very much understand where Rayns coming from re: Calix's post (#61), it's a safe (Can't think of a better word to explain it) sort of response towards Gemmas post there where it feels like it's mostly done to be commenting without saying a whole lot and not ruffle any feathers and the way that he's got to "That post isn't AI" re; the cop investigation is an awkward way to end up there. That said don't think it's an unreasonable or unlikely post to come from town there as well when there's little else to comment on at the time of the game, think it's ~slightly~ more likely to come from mafia overall but that's about it. Would rather just see what he says/his thoughts on the game on other players when he returns and go from there.
I've got a weak townish read on Ticktock, I liked his analysis and response towards Rayn and the "I'm unlynchable and you just don't know it yet" type of confident response towards Holyflare reads slightly townie, would strongly say that Ticktock/Holyflare are never knowing aligned here based on #105.
@Tick - Can you explain the Mocsta town read for me please.
(Is there a way to link post numbers here?)
- R
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On June 26 2018 10:52 CopCake wrote:Show nested quote +On June 26 2018 10:49 Tictock wrote:On June 26 2018 10:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:Calix literally didn't take a stance on anything since the conclusion says "not alignment indicative". Which is by the way the opposite you claimed a conclusion towards your post should be in the first place. Secondly, the conclusion sucks even more since the first paragraph of her post includes an indirect assumption that your hydra is town, which again contradicts clearly to the conclusion she has made. There is no reason to believe, in case your post is pre-written, that you do not believe you have a cop check on N0 as a cop so a smart person, instead of making that post would instead of writing a nice looking nice sounding nonsense post ask "why don't you wanna claim your check right now?" If you think people who are being nice are more likely to be town and people who are not nice are not, then you have a very terrible view of what this game is about. Also if what you said here: ...did it in a way that contributed to discussion in a healthy way [...] which feels like a town thing ..if you actually believe this, then you should probably call yourself mafia for the very first post you made this game. I'm not sure I saw anything in Calix's post that made the assumption that Gemma-Reg is town, but I overall agree with rayn here. Calix's switch in stance from "lets rando vote someone for lol's" to "thats not AI, don't vote" seemed sudden to me. Especially when my suggestion to pile votes on Reg had nothing to do with alignment. I feel slightly hypocritical here though, kus I switched my own stance of "I don't wanna vote pointlessly" to off the cuff voting someone just kus they did something I think is stupid. Actually maybe I do see what you mean here Rayn, there is no way Calix should be able to make any assumption about when Reg prepared that post. PM's went out an hour before the game started so there was plenty of time to decide to do something like that after getting a role, and there should be no real way to tell when someone makes that call. Anyways, I'll optimistically call Rayn and Mocsta town here. Dude wtf You actually read the thing you said it was nosense/wouldnt read? O_o
God no, I was talking about Calix's post here. or well, here
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Also, small thing but when people are responding to a certain post or wanting to talk to a certain person can they please quote them or do an @(name) type thing or /something/ that makes it easier to follow along with. Otherwise popping into the thread and trying to follow what's happening is going to be really difficult.
-R
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@Copcake - 1) What's your expeience level when it comes to mafia and how would you sort of quickly describe your playstyle for me? 2) What's your reads/thoughts on the game re; peoples alignments so far, see a lot of posts from you where you're talking about peoples reasoning behind their read but nothing that feels like 'this is what i'm at'.
- R
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On June 26 2018 10:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I am not too opposed to the tt scumread either.
nevermind i am actually going to disagree with Holyflare and this guy here.
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I am a “soul reader”, “moon power” and idk, apparently I find mafia by mistake always.
Ask rayn or slenderman to describe my play style or someone else like HF.
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On June 26 2018 11:01 Tictock wrote:Show nested quote +On June 26 2018 10:52 CopCake wrote:On June 26 2018 10:49 Tictock wrote:On June 26 2018 10:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:Calix literally didn't take a stance on anything since the conclusion says "not alignment indicative". Which is by the way the opposite you claimed a conclusion towards your post should be in the first place. Secondly, the conclusion sucks even more since the first paragraph of her post includes an indirect assumption that your hydra is town, which again contradicts clearly to the conclusion she has made. There is no reason to believe, in case your post is pre-written, that you do not believe you have a cop check on N0 as a cop so a smart person, instead of making that post would instead of writing a nice looking nice sounding nonsense post ask "why don't you wanna claim your check right now?" If you think people who are being nice are more likely to be town and people who are not nice are not, then you have a very terrible view of what this game is about. Also if what you said here: ...did it in a way that contributed to discussion in a healthy way [...] which feels like a town thing ..if you actually believe this, then you should probably call yourself mafia for the very first post you made this game. I'm not sure I saw anything in Calix's post that made the assumption that Gemma-Reg is town, but I overall agree with rayn here. Calix's switch in stance from "lets rando vote someone for lol's" to "thats not AI, don't vote" seemed sudden to me. Especially when my suggestion to pile votes on Reg had nothing to do with alignment. I feel slightly hypocritical here though, kus I switched my own stance of "I don't wanna vote pointlessly" to off the cuff voting someone just kus they did something I think is stupid. Actually maybe I do see what you mean here Rayn, there is no way Calix should be able to make any assumption about when Reg prepared that post. PM's went out an hour before the game started so there was plenty of time to decide to do something like that after getting a role, and there should be no real way to tell when someone makes that call. Anyways, I'll optimistically call Rayn and Mocsta town here. Dude wtf You actually read the thing you said it was nosense/wouldnt read? O_o God no, I was talking about Calix's post here. or well, here
I got messed up with the names, nevermind.
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On June 26 2018 10:59 Regfan wrote:
@Tick - Can you explain the Mocsta town read for me please.
(Is there a way to link post numbers here?)
- R
Super flimsy based off him being the first to ping Calix's post, and tone. Full disclosure, I saw Calix's response as I left work and mulled it over on my way home (I returned to those thoughts as I responded to rayn). I opted to read past that point and see how others had responded rather than get home and dump thoughts first without further reading.
Just noting the # works, but I tend to preffer linking to the post directly. You can grab the page link by clicking the post timestamp.
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Regfan:
[ url=http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/534607-chill-hop-mafia?page=6#118 ] post # [ /url ]
without spaces shows like
this
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Rayn I am surprised I am not town to you 😞
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