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Yeah, I'm feeling very very good about TickTock being town.
@Rayn - Thanks for the link explanation. I'm a little troubled by your recent posting and my discussion with Gemma on you hasn't really helped (She's equally conflicted now too), not hugely happy about your sort of lack of response towards my initial few posts here (Recognition that the initial post from Gemma was a C/P and not a "Oh the post makes no sense" type thing would be the logical sort of reaction to it at minimum) and the way you've gone about responding to the Ticktock thing is ehhhhh in that people state a scum read on him earlier, you don't really weigh in then, I post a town read on him, you state you disagree with the scum reads on him 9 minutes later. It feels sort of like, picking the direction you're going based on my reads which I think you'd certainly be doing as mafia to a degree. So mind talking to me and walking me through on what your reads are entirely right now (Don't care if some of it sounds stupid) as well as what /you/ specifically like about TickTock, would be nice to see some thought process from you on that.
On June 26 2018 11:08 CopCake wrote:
I am a “soul reader”, “moon power” and idk, apparently I find mafia by mistake always.
Ahhh, you're one of those players, fantastic. If I had a gun to your head right now and said "Name 3 players, if all 3 are town, you get to live OR name 1 player and if they're mafia you get to live" which would opt for and what would your answer be?
- R
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On June 26 2018 10:58 CopCake wrote:
Am I town or am I mafia rayn? This question caught me off guard.
If anything, I was anticipating CopCake to declare Rayn: town or mafia.
Clearly, the "early game' scum reads struck a chord with CopCake enough to contribute his/her independent thought process of those reads (e.g. Tictock). At minimum, I was expecting that thought process to follow through to the initiator.
Therefore, I find this exchange odd.
Yes its a dead question - which obviously town can ask.
But i find it odd, because its a dead question to someone that I thought woudl be on CopCake radar.
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Can we not put guns to people's heads please, it's distressing.
-G
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On June 26 2018 11:21 Mocsta wrote:This question caught me off guard. If anything, I was anticipating CopCake to declare Rayn: town or mafia. Clearly, the "early game' scum reads struck a chord with CopCake enough to contribute his/her independent thought process of those reads (e.g. Tictock). At minimum, I was expecting that thought process to follow through to the initiator. Therefore, I find this exchange odd. Yes its a dead question - which obviously town can ask. But i find it odd, because its a dead question to someone that I thought woudl be on CopCake radar.
Lol, the question is to make a better read on rayn.
@Regfan that question is too early to ask since not everyone has posted but I would shot HF as mafia.
I dont get his tt reasons.
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On June 26 2018 11:16 CopCake wrote:
Rayn I am surprised I am not town to you 😞
Actually you probably are town.
On June 26 2018 11:20 Regfan wrote:
@Rayn - Thanks for the link explanation. I'm a little troubled by your recent posting and my discussion with Gemma on you hasn't really helped (She's equally conflicted now too), not hugely happy about your sort of lack of response towards my initial few posts here (Recognition that the initial post from Gemma was a C/P and not a "Oh the post makes no sense" type thing would be the logical sort of reaction to it at minimum) and the way you've gone about responding to the Ticktock thing is ehhhhh in that people state a scum read on him earlier, you don't really weigh in then, I post a town read on him, you state you disagree with the scum reads on him 9 minutes later. It feels sort of like, picking the direction you're going based on my reads which I think you'd certainly be doing as mafia to a degree. So mind talking to me and walking me through on what your reads are entirely right now (Don't care if some of it sounds stupid) as well as what /you/ specifically like about TickTock, would be nice to see some thought process from you on that.
Holyflare isn't really wrong in that tt's early posting looked like him being an un-caring scum. I went to read his couple of last games i remember quickly and basically came to the same conclusion to what you did. I don't see any reason to repeat things that are already said. I basically just don't think he responds to the people scumreading in a way he did, while yes i realise he just called everyone town who is calling him scum. But i think as mafia he'd do it differently since it's not really likely to buy you any town redit when you weigh your chances to "get out of being scumread". I also don't think any response to Gemma's post is helping anything anymore, since it's a confirmed pre-planned copy paste post. It doesn't make it anything, except for stupid.
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Also Regfan, I am very very lazy in explaining my townreads nowadays tbh since noone is ever going to understand my reasons and i just don't care about it unless they are about to get lynched. I get scumread every single game for having a (usually correct) townread on someone "who you can't have a townread on" which i find terrible since usually as mafia i obviosuly don't townread the people i can lynch now or later. So you just have to deal with it like everyone else.
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On June 26 2018 11:22 Regfan wrote:
Can we not put guns to people's heads please, it's distressing.
-G
Oh wow, I really hate this post >.<
I'm kinda getting the sense that I am just going to dislike Gamma based off personality here, but this is really bad. It's adding nothing, acts as an appeal to emotion via thin humor, and worst off is just a reaction to the other head of the hydra.
I was actually kinda liking Reg's post at the top of the page here, but even before I saw this ^ post I was not willing to give a townread to Reg because I feel like their mafia range could be quite good.
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Well time to go to work. townlist so far is:
tt, Mocsta, Cake
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On June 26 2018 11:25 CopCake wrote:Show nested quote +On June 26 2018 11:21 Mocsta wrote:On June 26 2018 10:58 CopCake wrote:
Am I town or am I mafia rayn? This question caught me off guard. If anything, I was anticipating CopCake to declare Rayn: town or mafia. Clearly, the "early game' scum reads struck a chord with CopCake enough to contribute his/her independent thought process of those reads (e.g. Tictock). At minimum, I was expecting that thought process to follow through to the initiator. Therefore, I find this exchange odd. Yes its a dead question - which obviously town can ask. But i find it odd, because its a dead question to someone that I thought woudl be on CopCake radar. Lol, the question is to make a better read on rayn.@Regfan that question is too early to ask since not everyone has posted but I would shot HF as mafia. I dont get his tt reasons. i dont understand how it leads to anything.
If rayn calls you town, as either alignment, you will walk away feeling good about yaself.
If rayn calls yo mafia, as either alignment, you will walk away with a sense of OMGUS.
Dead question.
Having said that, I do share suspicion towards Holyflare.
Not enough to lean scum, but enough to pay extra attention to new content.
Whether you agreed or not, at least to me, superfically, the Tictock stuff is fine.
On the otherhand, whilst the strikethrough is more likely to be mafia than town in origin, its not conclusive and I find to be overly hammed up by HF.
My expectation for a town!HF is for him to do his own campaigning. If he does this, even if its against me. I shall call him town. We will have to wait and see.
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On June 26 2018 11:29 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Holyflare isn't really wrong in that tt's early posting looked like him being an un-caring scum. I went to read his couple of last games i remember quickly and basically came to the same conclusion to what you did. I don't see any reason to repeat things that are already said. I basically just don't think he responds to the people scumreading in a way he did, while yes i realise he just called everyone town who is calling him scum. But i think as mafia he'd do it differently since it's not really likely to buy you any town redit when you weigh your chances to "get out of being scumread". I also don't think any response to Gemma's post is helping anything anymore, since it's a confirmed pre-planned copy paste post. It doesn't make it anything, except for stupid.
My read on TT is without a lick of meta involved in it, if you've done some meta research that suggests he's town here, I think mentioning that is rather important -- I need to be able to follow /how/ you're getting to reads in this game here and the way it played out didn't really do that. What's your reads/thoughts on Mocsta at the moment? We both read a lot of his posts as him feeling somewhat detached from the actual game thread in a way I see mafia do more often than not, where he's there posting things that seem /somewhat okay/ but then looking at the body of content and going "huh". I'd imagine you've got some actual meta on him, is this something you'd say fits more his town/scum play and why?
(Pretty much if you're town here dude I need to see it via your thought process/solving, please)
-R
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On June 26 2018 11:34 Mocsta wrote:Show nested quote +On June 26 2018 11:25 CopCake wrote:On June 26 2018 11:21 Mocsta wrote:On June 26 2018 10:58 CopCake wrote:
Am I town or am I mafia rayn? This question caught me off guard. If anything, I was anticipating CopCake to declare Rayn: town or mafia. Clearly, the "early game' scum reads struck a chord with CopCake enough to contribute his/her independent thought process of those reads (e.g. Tictock). At minimum, I was expecting that thought process to follow through to the initiator. Therefore, I find this exchange odd. Yes its a dead question - which obviously town can ask. But i find it odd, because its a dead question to someone that I thought woudl be on CopCake radar. Lol, the question is to make a better read on rayn.@Regfan that question is too early to ask since not everyone has posted but I would shot HF as mafia. I dont get his tt reasons. i dont understand how it leads to anything. If rayn calls you town, as either alignment, you will walk away feeling good about yaself. If rayn calls yo mafia, as either alignment, you will walk away with a sense of OMGUS. Dead question. Having said that, I do share suspicion towards Holyflare. Not enough to lean scum, but enough to pay extra attention to new content. Whether you agreed or not, at least to me, superfically, the Tictock stuff is fine. On the otherhand, whilst the strikethrough is more likely to be mafia than town in origin, its not conclusive and I find to be overly hammed up by HF. My expectation for a town!HF is for him to do his own campaigning. If he does this, even if its against me. I shall call him town. We will have to wait and see.
We are like Tina and Lex
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On June 26 2018 11:35 Regfan wrote:Show nested quote +On June 26 2018 11:29 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Holyflare isn't really wrong in that tt's early posting looked like him being an un-caring scum. I went to read his couple of last games i remember quickly and basically came to the same conclusion to what you did. I don't see any reason to repeat things that are already said. I basically just don't think he responds to the people scumreading in a way he did, while yes i realise he just called everyone town who is calling him scum. But i think as mafia he'd do it differently since it's not really likely to buy you any town redit when you weigh your chances to "get out of being scumread". I also don't think any response to Gemma's post is helping anything anymore, since it's a confirmed pre-planned copy paste post. It doesn't make it anything, except for stupid. My read on TT is without a lick of meta involved in it, if you've done some meta research that suggests he's town here, I think mentioning that is rather important -- I need to be able to follow /how/ you're getting to reads in this game here and the way it played out didn't really do that. What's your reads/thoughts on Mocsta at the moment? We both read a lot of his posts as him feeling somewhat detached from the actual game thread in a way I see mafia do more often than not, where he's there posting things that seem /somewhat okay/ but then looking at the body of content and going "huh". I'd imagine you've got some actual meta on him, is this something you'd say fits more his town/scum play and why? (Pretty much if you're town here dude I need to see it via your thought process/solving, please) -R
Basically what i found out to be mostly correct is that tt makes more detailed and not all over the place posts more likely as town in comparison to as mafia. It's partly meta partly just gameplay. Especially him looking like he is thinking about what he posts mid-post aka the post on Calix seems to me way more likely to come from town than from mafia. idk it is hard to explain, i think he can make a post like that as mafia as well but i don't think he makes THAT specific post as mafia, post would probably be more lazy and have a different umm... goal in mind that it seems like it has.
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On June 26 2018 10:29 CopCake wrote:
Tbh i was about to say ticktock seemed townie lol same with conversion.
I have problems with the big post, from regfan and how people reacted to it. I read it (well skimmed) and I was like “Literally that is fake for the little time”, seemed more of a dumb post/meme thing if everything.
I've done nothing but spam lynch Holyflare, so why am I townie to you?
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@Calix explain why you are on the glorious train to victory by voting Holyflare
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On June 26 2018 11:35 Regfan wrote:Show nested quote +On June 26 2018 11:29 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Holyflare isn't really wrong in that tt's early posting looked like him being an un-caring scum. I went to read his couple of last games i remember quickly and basically came to the same conclusion to what you did. I don't see any reason to repeat things that are already said. I basically just don't think he responds to the people scumreading in a way he did, while yes i realise he just called everyone town who is calling him scum. But i think as mafia he'd do it differently since it's not really likely to buy you any town redit when you weigh your chances to "get out of being scumread". I also don't think any response to Gemma's post is helping anything anymore, since it's a confirmed pre-planned copy paste post. It doesn't make it anything, except for stupid. My read on TT is without a lick of meta involved in it, if you've done some meta research that suggests he's town here, I think mentioning that is rather important -- I need to be able to follow /how/ you're getting to reads in this game here and the way it played out didn't really do that. What's your reads/thoughts on Mocsta at the moment? We both read a lot of his posts as him feeling somewhat detached from the actual game thread in a way I see mafia do more often than not, where he's there posting things that seem /somewhat okay/ but then looking at the body of content and going "huh". I'd imagine you've got some actual meta on him, is this something you'd say fits more his town/scum play and why? (Pretty much if you're town here dude I need to see it via your thought process/solving, please) -R Can you please share an example.
Most of my posts are one-liners, so im curious what body of (non-existent) content you are referring to.
I would actually prefer as well if "R" did one, and "G" did one.
This is due to the above proclamation that you share opinions outside the thread; whereas, I find your opinions posted to be non-congruent beyond differences stemming from personality.
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On June 26 2018 10:19 Mocsta wrote:im not against this either
why
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@Conversion - What's your reads/thoughts on Non-Holyflare players?
On June 26 2018 11:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:Basically what i found out to be mostly correct is that tt makes more detailed and not all over the place posts more likely as town in comparison to as mafia. It's partly meta partly just gameplay. Especially him looking like he is thinking about what he posts mid-post aka the post on Calix seems to me way more likely to come from town than from mafia. idk it is hard to explain, i think he can make a post like that as mafia as well but i don't think he makes THAT specific post as mafia, post would probably be more lazy and have a different umm... goal in mind that it seems like it has.
Cheers, most of this makes a lot of sense. Wouldn't mind you getting to the Moscsta question when you get a chance, we're reading his posts here as busywork to a degree and Gemma can't work out why the things he's commenting on are important to him or where he's really trying to go with it and working out if this is just a playstyle concern or not would be nice.
-R
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On June 26 2018 11:45 Conversion wrote:Show nested quote +On June 26 2018 10:29 CopCake wrote:
Tbh i was about to say ticktock seemed townie lol same with conversion.
I have problems with the big post, from regfan and how people reacted to it. I read it (well skimmed) and I was like “Literally that is fake for the little time”, seemed more of a dumb post/meme thing if everything. I've done nothing but spam lynch Holyflare, so why am I townie to you?
I literally touch my screen, close my eyes and try to read your aura.
Yours is green.
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On June 26 2018 11:33 Tictock wrote:Show nested quote +On June 26 2018 11:22 Regfan wrote:
Can we not put guns to people's heads please, it's distressing.
-G Oh wow, I really hate this post >.< I'm kinda getting the sense that I am just going to dislike Gamma based off personality here, but this is really bad. It's adding nothing, acts as an appeal to emotion via thin humor, and worst off is just a reaction to the other head of the hydra. I was actually kinda liking Reg's post at the top of the page here, but even before I saw this ^ post I was not willing to give a townread to Reg because I feel like their mafia range could be quite good.
It wasn't a joke.
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