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CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 29 2018 02:38 GMT
#1521
No, talk to me.

The other people from my town circle are pretty inactive.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 29 2018 02:42 GMT
#1525
On June 29 2018 11:40 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I need to go to work. Can't talk right now.
I am simply treating HF as confirmed town since me, you or anyone isn't probably lynching him today or even tomorrow regardless of his alignment and now he should be confirmed by D4 so i am just gonna let him search for mafia until N3.


I am voting him lol, I don't know how a town HF would start a wagon out of nowhere on bf.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 29 2018 02:43 GMT
#1528
On June 29 2018 11:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Like TT is just town, he actually believes in what he says. Noone fakes shit like that when the argument in the first place is based on some complete bs thing that doesn't even make any sense.


If TT was town then why didnt mafia lynch him?

easy misslynch
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 29 2018 02:47 GMT
#1532
On June 29 2018 11:45 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2018 11:43 CopCake wrote:
On June 29 2018 11:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Like TT is just town, he actually believes in what he says. Noone fakes shit like that when the argument in the first place is based on some complete bs thing that doesn't even make any sense.


If TT was town then why didnt mafia lynch him?

easy misslynch

I don't fucking care. It is very bs to say someone is mafia because of what other people did. It really is, because you cannot control what other people do and you do not always know what mafia thinks since you're not in their QT.


No, if you are sure that TT and shotckey are town mafia could have easily misslynch.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 29 2018 02:54 GMT
#1535
On June 29 2018 11:52 Mocsta wrote:
and if you must know

i did want to lynch calix, i really thought it was a kitaman thing all over again.

everyone shit on my calix points, in particular regfan whom input i valued.

since then i have treated calix as town.


Nope, you changed your mind like in 3 minutes on the end of the day when she was leading.

CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 29 2018 03:03 GMT
#1538
On June 28 2018 07:47 Mocsta wrote:
hmmm.

Filter dive rayn - Theres a couple odditities in his play, but maybe IRL shit. Like, I just dont think he can be that passionate against calix/regfan etc as mafia. Theres a lot of conviction in his posts that I think cannot be faked.

Filter dive tictock - Im still not seeing why anyone thinks he is scum. I look at his wagon and see pretty much town (if you treat the shockeyy mafia stuff as a dumbtell)

Koshi is probably a crap shoot. I prob more want to lynch him out of spite than I think he is mafia

Calix i think is town. #1004 is just something i dont expect mafia to say, but i see town do it all the time. its just a genuine venting of frustration

this leaves my voting block to shockeyy, boxer fred, vivax
Will filter those guys now

##unvote
Who knows, maybe this is a bizarre game where 2 of the scum team are AFK, and vivax is actually by himself lol


You surely think Calix is mafia.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 29 2018 03:28 GMT
#1544
On June 27 2018 20:32 Mocsta wrote:
##Unvote

I dunno if Calix is town, but I trust Regfan enough to relinquish my read.

I would vote between Shockeyy and Koshi equally if Calix wont be wagon'd.

Shockeyy cos that post shitting on town for being down each others throats is such a mafia style intro post.
Koshi for reasons I mentioned prior.

Will decide when i wake up. ciao.


Sorry if I am "difficult" but then explain to me your vote on Boxerored and not Shockey if you think he is mafia?

"REASONS"

On June 29 2018 01:32 CopCake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2018 08:17 Tubesock wrote:
Final Day 1 Vote Count



Tictock[3]:Holyflare, Vivax, Conversion, Holyflare, ShoCkeyy, raynpelikoneet, CopCake
ShoCkeyy[4]:Regfan Vivax, Tictock, Calix,Vivax,Mocsta, Koshi, Regfan,Tictock, Conversion
Calix[0]:raynpelikoneet,Mocsta,CopCake, Koshi, raynpelikoneet
boxerfred[5]:boxerfred, Holyflare, Mocsta, Calix, Vivax
Holyflare[0]:Conversion Calix
Regfan[0]:Mocsta,Tictock
Koshi[0]:Vivax, Mocsta
TheSlenderMan[1]:TheSlenderMan
CopCake[0]:Vivax, Calix
Vivax[0]:Holyflare,Calix, Regfan
raynpelikoneet [0]:Tictock

Boxerfred has been lynched.


If this is it, then is funny how mafia put all his effort to lynch TT and not distribute the vote.

This is quite interesting.


It is difficult to me to imagine a town not voting for a mafia read but instead an afk person.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 29 2018 03:35 GMT
#1546
Like I can understand if you got convinced by regfan that Calix is town but now?

Oh, I am frustrated because I am like seriously trying to solve the game but if I ask is like

"Bitch", "Stupid", "Biased", "Grammar problems"

Not a fun at all game to play.

The only way I would enjoy this is if Rayn and Slenderman are mafia and drink margaritas together somewhere in Finland while fooling me but that mental image looks distant.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 29 2018 03:38 GMT
#1548
On June 29 2018 12:33 Mocsta wrote:
i didnt vote shockeyy because my strong town read rayn was so certain of shockeyy being town.

heres a big tip

why dont you go and put all this nice effort into conversion vote actions.

like. yeah im mafia and the way to win is to cop this type of heat for lynch actions.
this is so fuckn stupid.
rayn and hf might want to gloat how they fuckn are nk this and that.
well i will gloat as mafia, i simply do not put myself in positions to be scrutinised like this from wagons.
i jsut dont, everything is meticulous in the filter for follow through.


Conversion was on TT, last moment was on Shockey, gonna check his filter again to see if he ever mentioned him.

The problem here is that you had a scum read, two scum reads on wagons.

You got convinced on one, but the other one????

I am gonna start to type sorry in each post in case I piss off some for my questions.

Sorry.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 29 2018 03:40 GMT
#1549
On June 27 2018 01:39 Conversion wrote:
Actually it might be a tossup between him and ShoCkeyy for the worst entrances in this game

Show nested quote +
On June 26 2018 22:40 ShoCkeyy wrote:
I go to dinner, sleep, get ready for work, get my day started, visit TL, see 13 pages, type this response, close TL, be back later to read walls of text T_T



why even post this



Welp, this is his reason to vote him apparently.

CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 29 2018 03:42 GMT
#1550
On June 27 2018 02:07 Conversion wrote:
I don't think either Vivax or Calix is mafia for all that's worth at this very exact moment in the game. Or if they was one, it'd be a 1/1 split. No way mafiateam Vivax and Calix randomly jump on Copcake like that.. no reward medium risk play.

Rereading rayn/reg makes me solidified in not wanting to lynch them today. Rayn is probably town, reg I get a weird feeling from filter.. like they post a lot and bring a good logical standpoint on things but can't remember anything memorable coming from it? Hence why I wanted some other inputs, but doubt regfan should ever be lynched today, I suppose.

Gun to my head, my lynch pool would be HF > Shock > Koshi, but things will change.. will dive Tictock some time later since lunch break is over


Another one mentioning Shock

"will dive on TT"

Let's see where it leads.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 29 2018 03:43 GMT
#1551
On June 27 2018 02:08 Conversion wrote:
also I don't like Tictock's continuous mention of how he is unlynchable this game. rubs me the wrong way


There you have it.

Conversion is so fucking town.

His change of vote was to save Boxfred.

GG.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 29 2018 03:46 GMT
#1552
Now Mocsta, let's say you are town

What do you think of that?

And if you agree that Conversion look more townie, who are the mafia besides Calix in your point of view?
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 29 2018 04:01 GMT
#1556
On June 29 2018 12:52 Mocsta wrote:
i think you should be considering with Conversion why he even has those opinions.

Everything is just loose throw away comments that echo others
"ohh, this person rubs me the wrong way"

Heres one for you, do any of conversions opinions that you share come first?
I suspect it does not.



He wanted to kill his mafia reads, never a town.

Unless you think TT and Shockey are both town idk how Conversion's pov doesn't work with yours since you also think Shockey is mafia.

Conversion tried HARD to kill Shockey to save Boxerfred.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 29 2018 04:02 GMT
#1557
And with town I mean AFK someone, I honestly don't get WHY someone would lynch an afk over their mafia read.

Sorry.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 29 2018 04:10 GMT
#1560
On June 29 2018 13:04 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2018 13:01 CopCake wrote:
On June 29 2018 12:52 Mocsta wrote:
i think you should be considering with Conversion why he even has those opinions.

Everything is just loose throw away comments that echo others
"ohh, this person rubs me the wrong way"

Heres one for you, do any of conversions opinions that you share come first?
I suspect it does not.



He wanted to kill his mafia reads, never a town.

Unless you think TT and Shockey are both town idk how Conversion's pov doesn't work with yours since you also think Shockey is mafia.

Conversion tried HARD to kill Shockey to save Boxerfred.
Please listen carefully.

Do you even understand why conversion has those reads....

The act of follow through is non-alignment indicative. Both mafia and town have reasons to do it.
Its why and how that matters, and at least to me, its very much lacking with conversion.


To me actions speak more than a thousand of walls of posts with fancy words.
Words lie.
Actions don't.

The fact he tried to save boxer says a lot.

He could have stayed and then be like "THIS IS SO STUPID BLA BLA BLA BLA"

But he actually TRIED*

Unless he tried to be like "this is so dumb bla bla" but as a mafia point of view, why just not pretend to afk and be back later?

The action to me is what speaks he is town :/

Sorry.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 29 2018 04:26 GMT
#1561
I am going to re evaluate

On June 28 2018 07:36 Tubesock wrote:
Day 1 Vote Count





Tictock[4]:Holyflare, Vivax, Conversion, Holyflare, ShoCkeyy, raynpelikoneet, CopCake
ShoCkeyy[2]:Regfan Vivax, Tictock, Calix,Mocsta, Koshi
Calix[1]:raynpelikoneet,Mocsta,CopCake, Koshi, raynpelikoneet
boxerfred[2]:boxerfred, Holyflare
Holyflare[0]:Conversion Calix
Regfan[0]:Mocsta,Tictock
Koshi[1]:Vivax, Mocsta
TheSlenderMan[1]:TheSlenderMan
CopCake[0]:Vivax, Calix
Vivax[1]:Holyflare,Calix, Regfan
raynpelikoneet [1]:Tictock


Tictock is currently the lynch.

The deadline is Wednesday, Jun 27 10:59pm GMT (GMT+00:00) which is in .

PM us if you see a mistake.




On June 28 2018 08:17 Tubesock wrote:
Final Day 1 Vote Count



Tictock[3]:Holyflare, Vivax, Conversion, Holyflare, ShoCkeyy, raynpelikoneet, CopCake
ShoCkeyy[4]:Regfan Vivax, Tictock, Calix,Vivax,Mocsta, Koshi, Regfan,Tictock, Conversion
Calix[0]:raynpelikoneet,Mocsta,CopCake, Koshi, raynpelikoneet
boxerfred[5]:boxerfred, Holyflare, Mocsta, Calix, Vivax
Holyflare[0]:Conversion Calix
Regfan[0]:Mocsta,Tictock
Koshi[0]:Vivax, Mocsta
TheSlenderMan[1]:TheSlenderMan
CopCake[0]:Vivax, Calix
Vivax[0]:Holyflare,Calix, Regfan
raynpelikoneet [0]:Tictock

Boxerfred has been lynched.


http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/534884-chill-hop-mafia-vote-thread?page=3

So Calix and Vivax voted at the same time before end of the day to boxerored (2 min)
Tick tock and conversion 1 minute before end of the day to Shockey

If I think about it carefully, TT's numbers were 4, so if conversion stayed with him, it would be the same as Shockey. Both were mafia reads of Conversion's so it would work for him either way, then...

In a world in which conversion is mafia... WHY THE MOVE?

Is TT town and if he flipped town would clear a lot of things?

Is TT mafia and apply the same?

Why to take the risk of the move and be called out for it?

I can see conversion being mafia is TT is mafia and his whole read of TT was just bluff and copy/budding people as you say.

CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 29 2018 05:31 GMT
#1564
On June 29 2018 14:02 Mocsta wrote:
CopCake.. im giong to drop conversion.

I feel like im trying to create linkages to suit my outcome, which probably means im wrong.

BUT... what i will say is, going through conversion made me specifcally look through shockeyy because converision asks him at one point why tictock over calix.

Im still going through the filter, but the stuff i was looking for... .man. that mofo is town as. just sweet and direct and with impact.

so..im back to square-1.

in my certainly-town world (Holyflare, rayn, CopCake)
in my I-assume-to-be-town world (Shockeyy, conversion)
in my prioritise-evaluation pile (Calix, tictock)
in my No-fucknig-idea (koshi, Slender)

ticktock has shifted to re-evalute because of shockeyy. Once i digest the content I will have a better idea of where i sit.
Calix. i havent read much of what she was written she since had the copcake case. I think its time i stop giving her a free town read for reaction and read the content.

meh.. in short, im a sheep this cycle.


anwaysy, i will spoiler what i was writing about b4 just in case you think i was bullshitting. but its probably not relevant
+ Show Spoiler +
actions do lie, especially when you are aware of the outcome before others.

im going to summarise my perspective of what you are saying:

Conversion position:
Shock=TT >Vivax>Calix>Koshi via #517


Mildly amusing in between this (and note its to his scum-read about his scum-read)
On June 26 2018 22:40 ShoCkeyy wrote:
I go to dinner, sleep, get ready for work, get my day started, visit TL, see 13 pages, type this response, close TL, be back later to read walls of text T_T
On June 27 2018 01:39 Conversion wrote:
Actually it might be a tossup between him and ShoCkeyy for the worst entrances in this game

why even post this
On June 27 2018 22:21 Conversion wrote:
Is this a manufactured dumb mechanics thing from Shock? I highly doubt a dude who has played mafia here before honestly thinks mafia getting 3 KP in one night is balanced. at all
On June 27 2018 22:49 Calix wrote:
[...]

So I'm just going with ShoCkeyy/ Vivax/ ??? for my current scum reads.

I'd like some thoughts on ShoCkeyy/ Calix from the rest of the thread please.
On June 27 2018 22:59 Conversion wrote:
I recall having the same frustrations with Shock making posts that never seemed town, and he ended up being town, in a game I played with him. I’ll metacheck that when I’m at a computer


The voting block is deceiving because there are lots of errors in it & came about very infrequently.
I will make the assumption that people were too lazy to count what the actuals were, and went off the host counts.

Keep in mind Conversion position from above, and that prior to this he was trolling with a HF vote.
On June 28 2018 01:14 Tictock wrote:
##Vote: ShoCkeyy
On June 28 2018 01:18 Conversion wrote:
##Unvote
##Vote:Tictock
On June 28 2018 02:59 ShoCkeyy wrote:
##Vote:Tictock


At this point, surely Conversion has to be suspicious that his scum-reads are voting each other, which to his credit there is some "follow-through"
On June 28 2018 03:15 Conversion wrote:
Tictock why aren't you talking with me

Shockeyy why do you scumread TT over Calix
On June 28 2018 03:19 Conversion wrote:
Let me reword that-- Shockeyy why do you want to lynch Tictock OVER Calix regardless if bother are scum or not? I feel like the general vibe that I felt from you was that Calix was your read




On June 28 2018 08:17 Tubesock wrote:
Final Day 1 Vote Count



Tictock[3]:Holyflare, Vivax, Conversion, Holyflare, ShoCkeyy, raynpelikoneet, CopCake
ShoCkeyy[4]:Regfan Vivax, Tictock, Calix,Vivax,Mocsta, Koshi, Regfan,Tictock, Conversion
Calix[0]:raynpelikoneet,Mocsta,CopCake, Koshi, raynpelikoneet
boxerfred[5]:boxerfred, Holyflare, Mocsta, Calix, Vivax
Holyflare[0]:Conversion Calix
Regfan[0]:Mocsta,Tictock
Koshi[0]:Vivax, Mocsta
TheSlenderMan[1]:TheSlenderMan
CopCake[0]:Vivax, Calix
Vivax[0]:Holyflare,Calix, Regfan
raynpelikoneet [0]:Tictock

Boxerfred has been lynched.



I dont know why you arent considering a world where boxerfred & shockeyy are town.
imagine that, scum can choose whatever wagon they want without risk...


You know that I live in the world that boxfred (confirmed) and shockey are town is right?

I dont get why you are asking me something I have expressed a lot...

If mafia could choose any wagon then TT, Calix, Shockey, Boxerfred are town.

Since Vivax and Regfan died that leave:

Cake
Rayn
Mocca
Conversion
Koshi
HF
Slenderman

Who from here is mafia?
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 29 2018 05:37 GMT
#1565
On June 29 2018 14:10 Mocsta wrote:
#1561
i dont like this, whether i was still anti-conversion or not.

the votes were so unpredictable at that point.
(a) there was EoD wagons forming like boxer
(b) the vote counts were rarely updated and had errors.. there was no certainty

but i dont like this because you are insinuating that with 1 minute to spare there is enough time to reload the page, see the change, process what needs to happen to save whomeever, and then type the vote.

thats a buttload, and then yuo have different internet speeds.. basically the 1min separate could be considered logging at the same time.

the other factor is that philosophically, smoe ppl are just simply opposed to voting an afk lurker.
town, perhaps because they wish it wouldnt happen to them; or morals or whatever
scum, perhaps because they feel they will cop limelight they dont want, or whatever.

like im not gonig to call someone scum because they didnt want to vote boxerfred, and definitely not because of something that happened 1min in sequence.

where im getting it is that such a simple thing debunks that whole post.. im not really sure what the point was other than, here, rayn wants me off the island, now here is another plattter to choose.


The problem here is that some people decided not to bote for their reads and vivax derped hard.

The problem is also you not voting for shockey.

I am sorry once again, but you dont voting dor your mafia read is strange.

This come again with:

Did you not want shockey lynched because it would clear me, rayn, etc or not? (If town)

Would his death put a red light (if mafia) to Calix, yourself, etc.


I cant believe people picked an afk over a read -____-
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 29 2018 06:19 GMT
#1568
On June 29 2018 14:46 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2018 14:37 CopCake wrote:
On June 29 2018 14:10 Mocsta wrote:
#1561
i dont like this, whether i was still anti-conversion or not.

the votes were so unpredictable at that point.
(a) there was EoD wagons forming like boxer
(b) the vote counts were rarely updated and had errors.. there was no certainty

but i dont like this because you are insinuating that with 1 minute to spare there is enough time to reload the page, see the change, process what needs to happen to save whomeever, and then type the vote.

thats a buttload, and then yuo have different internet speeds.. basically the 1min separate could be considered logging at the same time.

the other factor is that philosophically, smoe ppl are just simply opposed to voting an afk lurker.
town, perhaps because they wish it wouldnt happen to them; or morals or whatever
scum, perhaps because they feel they will cop limelight they dont want, or whatever.

like im not gonig to call someone scum because they didnt want to vote boxerfred, and definitely not because of something that happened 1min in sequence.

where im getting it is that such a simple thing debunks that whole post.. im not really sure what the point was other than, here, rayn wants me off the island, now here is another plattter to choose.


The problem here is that some people decided not to bote for their reads and vivax derped hard.

The problem is also you not voting for shockey.

I am sorry once again, but you dont voting dor your mafia read is strange.

This come again with:

Did you not want shockey lynched because it would clear me, rayn, etc or not? (If town)

Would his death put a red light (if mafia) to Calix, yourself, etc.


I cant believe people picked an afk over a read -____-
i dont really know what else to say to you.

it was a real issue to me that rayn got pissed at regfan, and im over it.
im not the only one that voted boxerfred.. like, why arent you doing this to holyflare.

I tried to vote all my reads before going to boxer.. like, i just dont get what your problem is.

we just keep doing the same dance over and over again, im trying to talk to you in a different way and you are being a brick-wall about this.


Ohhhh but when HF gets back he will have hell with me even if Rayn says HF is town.

I know you are trying, and I liked your last post (the one saying calix is mafia)

Now if those three are your last picks let me figure out how it works with the lynch or as a team and interacions during the day/night.

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