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Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
June 26 2018 09:46 GMT
#181
Cupcake

Is calix presenting to you as mafia

And if not. Is anyone standing out at this point?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
June 26 2018 09:46 GMT
#182
On June 26 2018 18:42 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2018 18:15 Holyflare wrote:
On June 26 2018 18:06 Holyflare wrote:
On June 26 2018 11:34 Mocsta wrote:
On June 26 2018 11:25 CopCake wrote:
On June 26 2018 11:21 Mocsta wrote:
On June 26 2018 10:58 CopCake wrote:
Am I town or am I mafia rayn?
This question caught me off guard.
If anything, I was anticipating CopCake to declare Rayn: town or mafia.

Clearly, the "early game' scum reads struck a chord with CopCake enough to contribute his/her independent thought process of those reads (e.g. Tictock). At minimum, I was expecting that thought process to follow through to the initiator.

Therefore, I find this exchange odd.

Yes its a dead question - which obviously town can ask.
But i find it odd, because its a dead question to someone that I thought woudl be on CopCake radar.


Lol, the question is to make a better read on rayn.

@Regfan that question is too early to ask since not everyone has posted but I would shot HF as mafia.

I dont get his tt reasons.
i dont understand how it leads to anything.
If rayn calls you town, as either alignment, you will walk away feeling good about yaself.
If rayn calls yo mafia, as either alignment, you will walk away with a sense of OMGUS.

Dead question.

Having said that, I do share suspicion towards Holyflare.
Not enough to lean scum, but enough to pay extra attention to new content.

Whether you agreed or not, at least to me, superfically, the Tictock stuff is fine.
On the otherhand, whilst the strikethrough is more likely to be mafia than town in origin, its not conclusive and I find to be overly hammed up by HF.

My expectation for a town!HF is for him to do his own campaigning. If he does this, even if its against me. I shall call him town. We will have to wait and see.


What an utterly redundant post.

I still think tt is mafia. I can't explain it to you other than the phrasing he is using seems overly wordy for the little points he is making which I don't usually feel like from tt.


I actually really hate this bolded part. Like enough to drop everything and vote Mocsta.

Maybe.
then do it.

And at least have the courtesy to explain why it is so scum indicative


I'm town and it's pandering to my alignment. If I was mafia I could just do the same crusading as you're expecting and get off free but you give me an out for no reason.

This is something I'd expect someone to keep to themselves.

You're on a caution now though so it's not enough to vote you since your reads arw starting to align with mine.

Fwiw I like regfan
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
June 26 2018 09:48 GMT
#183
Now that you two AREN'T going to bitch slap each other, can you vote CopCake please? Thank you ^^
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 26 2018 09:56 GMT
#184
Lol, Calix got heated and instead of fighting the people that pointed fingers at him his first post is to make a case of me 🤷🏽‍♀️ Ofc that shit is staged.

Like any town would try to clean himself but creating a case of me (Bad one).

Literally his case is “town do this, mafia do that” not wveryone play the same way.

@mocsta

Like forcing me to push someone lmao, I already said before I suspect HF and I am not liking the last couple of posts of regfan, specially his engage towards you

Regfan
Profile Joined February 2017
124 Posts
June 26 2018 09:58 GMT
#185
On June 26 2018 18:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Well at least i got confirmation to one of my concerns.

Please share with the class.

-G
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 26 2018 10:00 GMT
#186
With first post i mean his come back btw.
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
June 26 2018 10:02 GMT
#187
On June 26 2018 18:56 CopCake wrote:
Lol, Calix got heated and instead of fighting the people that pointed fingers at him his first post is to make a case of me 🤷🏽‍♀️ Ofc that shit is staged.

Like any town would try to clean himself but creating a case of me (Bad one).

Literally his case is “town do this, mafia do that” not wveryone play the same way.

@mocsta

Like forcing me to push someone lmao, I already said before I suspect HF and I am not liking the last couple of posts of regfan, specially his engage towards you



If I have a scum read then why would I waste time defending myself when I could be figuring out your alignment and prove myself town through scum-hunting? What kind of shite logic is this?!

Yes, I have certain ideas of what town and mafia would do in certain situations and I think your current play fits a mafia agenda better. I don't know how you play so I have to make general assumptions, duh.

Hell, your very response makes an assumption about how town plays (town would want to defend themselves first and foremost) and then you criticise me for doing the same thing when it comes to reading you!

If I'm wrong then I'm sure your townieness will shine through but right now? Nah mate.

What's your problem with HF anyway?
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 26 2018 10:08 GMT
#188
HF’s case on ticktock was super bad

“He stroke some phrase”

He also never answered me, when I asked to explain me his case, probably one of the stupid questions I made m

Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
June 26 2018 10:14 GMT
#189
On June 26 2018 19:08 CopCake wrote:
HF’s case on ticktock was super bad

“He stroke some phrase”

He also never answered me, when I asked to explain me his case, probably one of the stupid questions I made m



Didn't HF just say that TT has a scummy tone and forced opening posts? I don't find it persuasive but I also can see how he might conclude that as town.

And he just recently explained to Mocsta that 'the phrasing TT uses feels overly wordy for the little points he is making and it feels un-TT-like' so what does he have left to explain in your opinion?
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 26 2018 10:16 GMT
#190
On June 26 2018 08:15 Calix wrote:
It was clearly written before he received his role because if he was an investigative role, he (or she, since this is Gemma?) would know that Cops on this site don't get N0 checks.

Thus it's not AI.

I would like to know more about the two players in the hydra though. How many games have they played, where are they from, stuff like that.


Actually Calix.

I assume you here are saying that Regfan/Gemma is town for posting a meme no?

Or what did you mean with this?

“Prefabricated”

“Before getting a role pm”

It is very... specific.

Like someone would write that prefabricated... who on their right mind would?
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 26 2018 10:18 GMT
#191
On June 26 2018 19:14 Calix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2018 19:08 CopCake wrote:
HF’s case on ticktock was super bad

“He stroke some phrase”

He also never answered me, when I asked to explain me his case, probably one of the stupid questions I made m



Didn't HF just say that TT has a scummy tone and forced opening posts? I don't find it persuasive but I also can see how he might conclude that as town.

And he just recently explained to Mocsta that 'the phrasing TT uses feels overly wordy for the little points he is making and it feels un-TT-like' so what does he have left to explain in your opinion?


It was supper bad, like I have played with HF before and he is good, super good. His TT case was bad, dissapointing.

I have to interfere because I had his same process, TT didnt seem forced, and I think after that, he also looks super town.

Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
June 26 2018 10:19 GMT
#192
On June 26 2018 19:16 CopCake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2018 08:15 Calix wrote:
It was clearly written before he received his role because if he was an investigative role, he (or she, since this is Gemma?) would know that Cops on this site don't get N0 checks.

Thus it's not AI.

I would like to know more about the two players in the hydra though. How many games have they played, where are they from, stuff like that.


Actually Calix.

I assume you here are saying that Regfan/Gemma is town for posting a meme no?

Or what did you mean with this?

“Prefabricated”

“Before getting a role pm”

It is very... specific.

Like someone would write that prefabricated... who on their right mind would?


Your assumption is incorrect. I state in that very post you quoted that I think it's NAI.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
June 26 2018 10:22 GMT
#193
On June 26 2018 19:08 CopCake wrote:
HF’s case on ticktock was super bad

“He stroke some phrase”

He also never answered me, when I asked to explain me his case, probably one of the stupid questions I made m



I mean I have explained it quite a lot but when you or I or any normal person writes a post, even if it is a train of thought, we would usually just ramble and delete what isn't necessary from the post. I find it very over the top to not only leave it in your post but to cross it out as well.

It just looks like someone trying to force themselves to appear "natural" but overthinking it entirely.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 26 2018 10:24 GMT
#194
On June 26 2018 19:19 Calix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2018 19:16 CopCake wrote:
On June 26 2018 08:15 Calix wrote:
It was clearly written before he received his role because if he was an investigative role, he (or she, since this is Gemma?) would know that Cops on this site don't get N0 checks.

Thus it's not AI.

I would like to know more about the two players in the hydra though. How many games have they played, where are they from, stuff like that.


Actually Calix.

I assume you here are saying that Regfan/Gemma is town for posting a meme no?

Or what did you mean with this?

“Prefabricated”

“Before getting a role pm”

It is very... specific.

Like someone would write that prefabricated... who on their right mind would?


Your assumption is incorrect. I state in that very post you quoted that I think it's NAI.


Explain your post to others, not just me.

Others had problems with it also.
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
June 26 2018 10:25 GMT
#195
On June 26 2018 19:18 CopCake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2018 19:14 Calix wrote:
On June 26 2018 19:08 CopCake wrote:
HF’s case on ticktock was super bad

“He stroke some phrase”

He also never answered me, when I asked to explain me his case, probably one of the stupid questions I made m



Didn't HF just say that TT has a scummy tone and forced opening posts? I don't find it persuasive but I also can see how he might conclude that as town.

And he just recently explained to Mocsta that 'the phrasing TT uses feels overly wordy for the little points he is making and it feels un-TT-like' so what does he have left to explain in your opinion?


It was supper bad, like I have played with HF before and he is good, super good. His TT case was bad, dissapointing.

I have to interfere because I had his same process, TT didnt seem forced, and I think after that, he also looks super town.



So a meta/ expectation read. Sure.

Precisely how strong are your other town reads, may I just ask? I don't think TT is 'super town' myself; there just isn't enough evidence to have a read THAT strong in my opinion. So I would like to know how you have that much confidence since I'm not getting the same strong town vibes from people.

I'm also going to divert the topic onto something more general since I don't know you very well: How do you play? How many games have you played? When was the last time you actually played and specifically when you played with HF? I'm assuming you're an old-timer who was dragged back from the Stone Age myself
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 26 2018 10:30 GMT
#196
On June 26 2018 19:25 Calix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2018 19:18 CopCake wrote:
On June 26 2018 19:14 Calix wrote:
On June 26 2018 19:08 CopCake wrote:
HF’s case on ticktock was super bad

“He stroke some phrase”

He also never answered me, when I asked to explain me his case, probably one of the stupid questions I made m



Didn't HF just say that TT has a scummy tone and forced opening posts? I don't find it persuasive but I also can see how he might conclude that as town.

And he just recently explained to Mocsta that 'the phrasing TT uses feels overly wordy for the little points he is making and it feels un-TT-like' so what does he have left to explain in your opinion?


It was supper bad, like I have played with HF before and he is good, super good. His TT case was bad, dissapointing.

I have to interfere because I had his same process, TT didnt seem forced, and I think after that, he also looks super town.



So a meta/ expectation read. Sure.

Precisely how strong are your other town reads, may I just ask? I don't think TT is 'super town' myself; there just isn't enough evidence to have a read THAT strong in my opinion. So I would like to know how you have that much confidence since I'm not getting the same strong town vibes from people.

I'm also going to divert the topic onto something more general since I don't know you very well: How do you play? How many games have you played? When was the last time you actually played and specifically when you played with HF? I'm assuming you're an old-timer who was dragged back from the Stone Age myself


I have like explained myself about how I play but I like others to comment better.

I played with HF in the drawing mafia, I think that was my last with him? Yeah it was.

As for town, Mocca and TT.

Coversion also leans town, loved his “oh I have only said lynch HF how it makes me town”.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 26 2018 10:32 GMT
#197
Btw I am gonna try to sleep.

3:30 am, just came to check and now I got hooked.

Not healthy.

Bye

Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
June 26 2018 10:32 GMT
#198
On June 26 2018 19:24 CopCake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2018 19:19 Calix wrote:
On June 26 2018 19:16 CopCake wrote:
On June 26 2018 08:15 Calix wrote:
It was clearly written before he received his role because if he was an investigative role, he (or she, since this is Gemma?) would know that Cops on this site don't get N0 checks.

Thus it's not AI.

I would like to know more about the two players in the hydra though. How many games have they played, where are they from, stuff like that.


Actually Calix.

I assume you here are saying that Regfan/Gemma is town for posting a meme no?

Or what did you mean with this?

“Prefabricated”

“Before getting a role pm”

It is very... specific.

Like someone would write that prefabricated... who on their right mind would?


Your assumption is incorrect. I state in that very post you quoted that I think it's NAI.


Explain your post to others, not just me.

Others had problems with it also.


Don't think there's much to explain. All I really say is "I think this post is NAI. While Regfan is here, I will ask for general info about him". Not that deep, fam.

I read rayn's posts and I don't get why people think they're good since I don't even really understand them. His posts on me don't say much other than "any SMART person would have done X and Calix didn't do X therefore she's suspicious" and he didn't really explain mafia motivation. Basically he's insulting my intelligence, not calling me mafia.

TT said my post was bad because PMs were sent out an hour before and thus it could have been AI. This is a moot point because it's a confirmed meme.

I don't know who else said anything about it and think this whole meme thing has been flogged a fair bit at this point.
Regfan
Profile Joined February 2017
124 Posts
June 26 2018 10:53 GMT
#199
On June 26 2018 18:56 CopCake wrote:
Lol, Calix got heated and instead of fighting the people that pointed fingers at him his first post is to make a case of me 🤷🏽‍♀️ Ofc that shit is staged.

Like any town would try to clean himself but creating a case of me (Bad one).

Literally his case is “town do this, mafia do that” not wveryone play the same way.

@mocsta

Like forcing me to push someone lmao, I already said before I suspect HF and I am not liking the last couple of posts of regfan, specially his engage towards you


I'd appreciate some other perspectives on this.

In the world where CopCake is mafia, his last bit there is presumably him still trying to buddy mocsta and push him in a certain direction. I feel like the way he approaches that, telling mocsta about how stupid/wrong the person pressuring him is, planting seeds of paranoia / trying to break down his townread on us, makes a lot of sense if that's the world we're in. I feel like if he's town, trying to guide mocsta like that is pretty hard to understand, especially when mentioning us is basically irrelevant to what he's supposed to be feeling strongly about in that moment, and I think he'd probably be more engaged with Calix and shutting down Calix directly, rather than sort of playing to the thread at large and mocsta in particular? I also think if he genuinely had concerns with us and was worried about mocsta getting pocketed, he might've mentioned it earlier and differently, rather than tossing it in on the side where he did.

I'm not sure how strongly I feel about this, because I don't think it's super unrealistic that CopCake can just be town with a really wolfy way of talking about things and generally really bad process, especially when I haven't looked super closely at Calix's case on him (it could be as bad as CopCake says it is), and I don't know CopCake well enough to figure out whether "that shit is staged" and such is the way he approaches someone scumreading him when he's mafia, but it certainly doesn't fill me with joy.
Regfan
Profile Joined February 2017
124 Posts
June 26 2018 10:53 GMT
#200
-G
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