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raynpelikoneet
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Regfan
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Calix
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On June 26 2018 10:54 raynpelikoneet wrote: If the underlined part is really what Calix believes, there is no reason to assume a mafia fakecliming to be a cop would not believe they don't have a N0 check (since that's how it clearly works where Gemma usually plays, and there are indications of that for anyone whop has ever played anywhere else since it's almost always how it works). So instead of writing the post off as non-alignment indicative any smart person -- again, believing what Calix clearly implies here -- would try to possibly catch a mafia in a lie by asking "so why don't you wanna claim your check now?" Calix has struck me as a player who digs into stuff and small discrepancies even when they possibly don't matter (especially in the game where i was mafia with bugs and oats), and this "ignorance" towards a possibly revealing discussion seems very un-Calix-like. So you say that I missed the possibility that mafia didn't read the OP and didn't know about the cop. Then say that "any smart person" (important qualifier that reveals you're not calling me mafia, just stupid) would have asked some questions instead of concluding it meant nothing. Then you make a very weak meta read that you're not really qualified to make. Forgive me if I'm not wowed by your analysis. I'm more convinced you're taking shots at me yet again as opposed to thinking you believe any of this makes me scum. | ||
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Regfan
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raynpelikoneet
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raynpelikoneet
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 I will tell you another secret, there is simply no reason to think Cake is mafia because she is mostly interested in my alignment or what i think her is. You could simply just go look at any game we have played together in in last years or so. Painting one question you can't understand (while you could just simply ask -- or go check) as "useless questionS" is not only lazy as hell, it's also misconstruing the whole thing in the first place. Third secret. Who needs Gemma the seer when you have Calix the "i didn't really care to read anything much i just went to some random person's filter that btw doesn't make any sense to go to in the first place given the playerbase and hallelujah!! Every post was a mafia post!" yeah right. Looking for mafia or looking for a lynch? | ||
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Regfan
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raynpelikoneet
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Mocsta
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On June 26 2018 08:06 Calix wrote: small thingSup, long time no see. Fancy randomly bandwagoning some AFK person for the lulz? But if calix is mafia. Its not with tictock | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43266 Posts
On June 26 2018 21:13 Mocsta wrote: small thing But if calix is mafia. Its not with tictock Actually when Holyflare made his post on tictock i tried to think about that quite a bit and i wouldn't be so certain of that. Grackaroni and FF once completely fooled me with some dumb "early game alliance" just like that. | ||
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Mocsta
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On June 26 2018 08:09 Tictock wrote: hfMeh, don't see the point when that is literally everyone but us atm. Actually n/m, pointless voting is pointless. I'll prob find some actual work to do. Reading this agaib.. i can sorta see tixtock writing the strike as a joke. Realising its stupid so writes the next part but decides to strike as he personally thinks ita funny | ||
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Calix
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On June 26 2018 21:03 raynpelikoneet wrote: I will tell you a secret. During work i went through every single mafia game i ever remember Cake playing on teamliquid and as mafia she has absolutely zero townreads during the first cycle. Literally zero. I will tell you another secret, there is simply no reason to think Cake is mafia because she is mostly interested in my alignment or what i think her is. You could simply just go look at any game we have played together in in last years or so. Painting one question you can't understand (while you could just simply ask -- or go check) as "useless questionS" is not only lazy as hell, it's also misconstruing the whole thing in the first place. Third secret. Who needs Gemma the seer when you have Calix the "i didn't really care to read anything much i just went to some random person's filter that btw doesn't make any sense to go to in the first place given the playerbase and hallelujah!! Every post was a mafia post!" yeah right. Looking for mafia or looking for a lynch? The only potentially good point is the meta thing and how that might point to a town!CopCake. But it's not something I'm going to bet the bank on unless it's relatively recent meta. The fact that you're accusing me of not 'looking at any game [you and Copcake] have played together' in a 200-post game when I already stated I have time constraints is such an unreasonable expectation to have. I think you're nitpicking at what I didn't do to paint me as 'not trying hard enough to understand CopCake'. You made the assumption that everyone has the time to go digging through past games to fact-check things and me not doing this at the start of the game is somehow mafia-indicative. Oh, and that being "lazy" means anything. As for your last paragraph, I looked at CopCake's filter after that post I didn't like so it made perfect sense to read, and then noticed the rest of the filter was bad. | ||
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Regfan
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On June 26 2018 21:13 raynpelikoneet wrote: I don't get what is so hard to understand there? I'm just going to leave reading you to Regfan, because I don't understand how you are ever town after that post. -G | ||
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Calix
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On June 26 2018 21:24 Regfan wrote: I'm just going to leave reading you to Regfan, because I don't understand how you are ever town after that post. -G Explain? | ||
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Regfan
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Conversion
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On June 26 2018 11:50 Regfan wrote: @Conversion - What's your reads/thoughts on Non-Holyflare players? Cheers, most of this makes a lot of sense. Wouldn't mind you getting to the Moscsta question when you get a chance, we're reading his posts here as busywork to a degree and Gemma can't work out why the things he's commenting on are important to him or where he's really trying to go with it and working out if this is just a playstyle concern or not would be nice. -R I’m peeved Mocsta acknowledged I was “making hits” and didn’t answer my question. CopCake randomly townreading me (though the screen touching joke was funny) bothers me Calix not answering why she voted HF bothers me Nothing substantial yet. CopCake feels town even though she randoy townread peopl earlier but I’d want to mull on it a bit more | ||
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Regfan
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On June 26 2018 21:03 raynpelikoneet wrote: I will tell you a secret. During work i went through every single mafia game i ever remember Cake playing on teamliquid and as mafia she has absolutely zero townreads during the first cycle. Literally zero. I will tell you another secret, there is simply no reason to think Cake is mafia because she is mostly interested in my alignment or what i think her is. You could simply just go look at any game we have played together in in last years or so. Painting one question you can't understand (while you could just simply ask -- or go check) as "useless questionS" is not only lazy as hell, it's also misconstruing the whole thing in the first place. Third secret. Who needs Gemma the seer when you have Calix the "i didn't really care to read anything much i just went to some random person's filter that btw doesn't make any sense to go to in the first place given the playerbase and hallelujah!! Every post was a mafia post!" yeah right. Looking for mafia or looking for a lynch? a) Cake never having made a townread during the first cycle isn't a reason to townread her in this game, that's such a copout way to townread someone and I don't understand how it's real. b) You aren't even explicitly saying that you do townread her or giving reasoning for townreading her, so much as saying there's no reason to scumread her. c) The way you're talking through this whole post as if your reads have already been thoroughly established, but they haven't, and there's a huge gulf of missing process where I have no idea where anything you're saying is coming from. It's like you've jumped into positioning yourself in a certain way that feels really forced. c) You're not talking about Calix as if you even think he's mafia. You're coming at this from sideways still, and it's like you're more interested in making Calix look stupid and bad than really scumreading him or actually analyzing anything he's doing. d) You completely ignored my posts on CopCake, despite apparently townreading her, which again makes me feel like you're not really interested in seriously digging into her alignment or approaching any of this honestly, so much as discrediting Calix's push on her. And Regfan just told me while I was writing this that you're dating CopCake, so that's a thing apparently. Don't think it really changes how I am reading this from you very much. | ||
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Regfan
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raynpelikoneet
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Here are the games go see by yourself: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/510083-1-day-mafia -- town http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/493411-newbie-student-mafia-xiv-firefly -- mafia http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/525420-ms-paint-off-mafia -- town http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/501883-pick-your-power-intriguing -- mafia http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/495390-crossfire-mafia -- town In the first three games i did play aswell. This took 5 minutes using the search, which anyone is aware of if they have played mafia on TL. I do not believe you can simply just be so simple minded you decide that "oh those things jsut make her mafia" when you have absolutely no clue about her personality or how she plays. Like Gemma's approach to the situation is perfectly valid, so is Mocsta's. They take the route where they actually think about what something means and try to make some sense to something that doesn't make sense for them atm. You just pick a post, sometimes even completely misrepresent it (see the questionS) and decide it is a mafia post). It is jsut not an approach a townie takes. | ||
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Mocsta
Australia9388 Posts
On June 26 2018 21:38 Conversion wrote: you have been formally upgraded from low care factor to nil care factirI’m peeved Mocsta acknowledged I was “making hits” and didn’t answer my question. CopCake randomly townreading me (though the screen touching joke was funny) bothers me Calix not answering why she voted HF bothers me Nothing substantial yet. CopCake feels town even though she randoy townread peopl earlier but I’d want to mull on it a bit more Congratulations on entering my playlist | ||
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