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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14276 Posts
June 01 2018 14:02 GMT
#1201
Ugh does anyone want to talk?
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
byj
Profile Joined November 2015
494 Posts
June 01 2018 14:11 GMT
#1202
On June 01 2018 20:14 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2018 07:40 byj wrote:
<3
RELS, DF mind talking?
##unvote
##vote: Rels

Why me over DF ? What happened to your fuba scumread ?

No proper reason, and just voting because I want you guys to talk... with "so much talking" today we have almost the same info as yesterday if it wasn't for the Doctor claim.
byj
Profile Joined November 2015
494 Posts
June 01 2018 14:13 GMT
#1203
On June 01 2018 17:03 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2018 07:40 byj wrote:
<3
RELS, DF mind talking?
##unvote
##vote: Rels


How come you vote fuba and then ask rels and df to talk but then only vote rels?

I can only vote for 1 person?
Who exactly do you think is mafia?

Still feeling the same as before, just that DF seems scummier than before, which annoys me since we only have 2 Mafia left, so I have to figure out who of them might be town...
byj
Profile Joined November 2015
494 Posts
June 01 2018 14:17 GMT
#1204
On June 01 2018 19:58 Rels wrote:
I don't know about that. Something bothered me about the timing of his appearance during the D2 lynch. Let me see if that makes sense or not.
Yeah that is it. He's AFK for the last half of the day and cmes back 20 minutes before deadline:

On May 28 2018 22:24 byj wrote:
I voted Fuba for now, I will be gone for the whole day tomorrow, so if you have any questions, ask them now please.

Unless you expect me to hope that somehow the lynch goes on a townie, which I town read, it makes no sense

So cocky for someone that didn't do anything to influence the lynch.

So what do you want me to do except say I think he is town and say the lynch looks scummy? Pay people money to change?
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
June 01 2018 14:45 GMT
#1205
On June 01 2018 21:12 LightningStrike wrote:
Just woke up:
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2018 20:04 Rels wrote:
On June 01 2018 04:33 LightningStrike wrote:
On June 01 2018 04:28 GlowingBear wrote:
On June 01 2018 04:25 LightningStrike wrote:
Also that voting myself thing was to test your alignment GB just was a botched execution >.<


And what was your conclusion?

More likely town based on your anger part seems super genuine don't think you would of been that angry as scum. But I had other reasons for reading you town such as your day 1 stuff and you actually believing in your pushes.

This feels really forced. Like, there was no kills N2, and Grack claims he has protected GB; it's pretty likely that they're both conf town. Yet you're testing him ?
Furthermore, I know you rage often as town. This feels like a fake rage, with an explanation when you saw it didn't look real.

I was wanting to do it for a while just again very much a botched execution I did do a similar reaction test but that was super badly executed as well in this game:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/526062-names-are-hard-2?user=LightningStrike
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2018 20:33 Rels wrote:
On June 01 2018 20:10 Rels wrote:
On June 01 2018 05:09 LightningStrike wrote:
On June 01 2018 05:05 GlowingBear wrote:
On June 01 2018 04:58 LightningStrike wrote:
GB just listen to me there is a chance of you being wrong on HF's alignment and mafia might be in the df,byj area although if I wrong on a town read it would take a much closer look at Rels.


I'm aware. I'm just trying to figure you out.

I have so many problems with your filter. Yet some posts comes really townish.

I'll check meta later, I need to rest from the game a little.

Here are my problems with you:

1) You trying to say you're contacting the mods seemed like you wanted to get townread. It was forced and it looked bad.
2) I don't believe when you say you were testing me. You've asked for mafia to kill you at night1, said you didn't really want to play anymore, then you voted yourself. Were you thinking about testing me since night1? It doesn't make sense. It felt to me like you were trying to look selfless by killing yourself, and your plan backfired, so you came up with this "test" thing.
3) Why testing my alignment if you think I'm town?

1.I was just saying I had contacted the mods just so people were wondering who had potentially had contacted them since they were late on the Day post.
2. Ya I did thought about testing you since Night 1 but didn't decide to go through with it just was badly executed >.<
3. Because I wanted to get a stronger read on you seeing how you and HF were butting heads hard Day 2 figuring out your alignment 100% was needed to make it easier on me.

Meh. These claims on "I did this weird thing because I was testing you" very often comes from scum, it's always seems like a good excuse to somehting you can't explain. I will reread your filter after I'm done catching up. Will I find some proof that you were trying to test GB since N1 ?

Found this, is it what you're talkign about ?
On May 28 2018 08:46 LightningStrike wrote:
Ya I just not taking GB seriously even though I think he's town ^_^


That was me being a bit snarky at the same time that was just the start testing the waters regarding that test.
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2018 20:36 Rels wrote:
During D2 you thought scums were not AFK and made a mistake during EOD1:
On May 29 2018 04:09 LightningStrike wrote:
On May 29 2018 03:47 Rels wrote:
On May 29 2018 01:03 LightningStrike wrote:
Like I think it was a huge mistake for scum to even let that lynch happen with 3 votes only. They could of saved their scummate easily either on you or df Koshi.

well why do you think scum made a mistake then ? Couldn't they have been AFK instead ?

Because I doubt they wouldn't just go afk at deadline or close to deadline. Unless they were trying to be cocky for some reason.

On May 29 2018 04:15 LightningStrike wrote:
On May 29 2018 04:12 Rels wrote:
On May 29 2018 04:09 LightningStrike wrote:
On May 29 2018 03:47 Rels wrote:
On May 29 2018 01:03 LightningStrike wrote:
Like I think it was a huge mistake for scum to even let that lynch happen with 3 votes only. They could of saved their scummate easily either on you or df Koshi.

well why do you think scum made a mistake then ? Couldn't they have been AFK instead ?

Because I doubt they wouldn't just go afk at deadline or close to deadline. Unless they were trying to be cocky for some reason.

So basically, you think the 2 scums left are people who were not AFK at deadline, and who didn't vote Jealous ? So basically, they're in GB / fuba / I ?

Maybe 1 afk at most. I doubt both of them would be afk. They might be in the other wagons potentially.


But now you have the entirely opposite analyse, thinking the scumteam is DF / byj and was AFK EOD1:
On June 01 2018 05:11 LightningStrike wrote:
On June 01 2018 05:06 GlowingBear wrote:
On June 01 2018 05:04 LightningStrike wrote:
On June 01 2018 04:59 GlowingBear wrote:
On June 01 2018 04:55 LightningStrike wrote:
On June 01 2018 04:54 GlowingBear wrote:
Wait wait wait

LS, you thought fuba was scum before????

From rechecking vc I refuse to believe I was voting with scum Day 1 on that Koshi wagon after seeing the Koshi flip (forgot to do a vca after Koshi got lynched and finally decided to do some).


But don't you think that, if Jealous was the counterwagon, there must be at least 1 mafia in Koshi's wagon?

Koshi and df were the only counter wagons to scum!Jealous so ya can happen but I refuse believe that since we had 2 counter wagons to scum!Jealous


One of which there is a town - Glowingbear.

One of us voted with mafia, under your perspective.

I know it can happen just don't think Rels and fuba are mafia atm after my VCA which in conclusion had a very inactive scum team of df and byj at EoD which can explain how we were able to lynch scum with 3 votes.

Why ? What changed ?

My VCA unless I really voted with mafia on the Koshi Wagon Day 1 or you being mafia voting with GB then by PoE it was them which can also explain why the jealous lynched happened EoD.

Can you link it to the right part ? I'll take a look at it in a few hours when I'm home.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
June 01 2018 14:51 GMT
#1206
On June 01 2018 23:17 byj wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2018 19:58 Rels wrote:
I don't know about that. Something bothered me about the timing of his appearance during the D2 lynch. Let me see if that makes sense or not.
Yeah that is it. He's AFK for the last half of the day and cmes back 20 minutes before deadline:

Show nested quote +
On May 28 2018 22:24 byj wrote:
I voted Fuba for now, I will be gone for the whole day tomorrow, so if you have any questions, ask them now please.

Unless you expect me to hope that somehow the lynch goes on a townie, which I town read, it makes no sense
Show nested quote +

So cocky for someone that didn't do anything to influence the lynch.

So what do you want me to do except say I think he is town and say the lynch looks scummy? Pay people money to change?

Yeah, if you replace "pay" by "don't AFK 24 hours and arguee with people to get your lynch"
I don't even remember why you were so sure Koshi was town. Something about the lynch D1 making him town I think ? I'll check that tonight
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14276 Posts
June 01 2018 14:52 GMT
#1207
On June 01 2018 23:45 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2018 21:12 LightningStrike wrote:
Just woke up:
On June 01 2018 20:04 Rels wrote:
On June 01 2018 04:33 LightningStrike wrote:
On June 01 2018 04:28 GlowingBear wrote:
On June 01 2018 04:25 LightningStrike wrote:
Also that voting myself thing was to test your alignment GB just was a botched execution >.<


And what was your conclusion?

More likely town based on your anger part seems super genuine don't think you would of been that angry as scum. But I had other reasons for reading you town such as your day 1 stuff and you actually believing in your pushes.

This feels really forced. Like, there was no kills N2, and Grack claims he has protected GB; it's pretty likely that they're both conf town. Yet you're testing him ?
Furthermore, I know you rage often as town. This feels like a fake rage, with an explanation when you saw it didn't look real.

I was wanting to do it for a while just again very much a botched execution I did do a similar reaction test but that was super badly executed as well in this game:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/526062-names-are-hard-2?user=LightningStrike
On June 01 2018 20:33 Rels wrote:
On June 01 2018 20:10 Rels wrote:
On June 01 2018 05:09 LightningStrike wrote:
On June 01 2018 05:05 GlowingBear wrote:
On June 01 2018 04:58 LightningStrike wrote:
GB just listen to me there is a chance of you being wrong on HF's alignment and mafia might be in the df,byj area although if I wrong on a town read it would take a much closer look at Rels.


I'm aware. I'm just trying to figure you out.

I have so many problems with your filter. Yet some posts comes really townish.

I'll check meta later, I need to rest from the game a little.

Here are my problems with you:

1) You trying to say you're contacting the mods seemed like you wanted to get townread. It was forced and it looked bad.
2) I don't believe when you say you were testing me. You've asked for mafia to kill you at night1, said you didn't really want to play anymore, then you voted yourself. Were you thinking about testing me since night1? It doesn't make sense. It felt to me like you were trying to look selfless by killing yourself, and your plan backfired, so you came up with this "test" thing.
3) Why testing my alignment if you think I'm town?

1.I was just saying I had contacted the mods just so people were wondering who had potentially had contacted them since they were late on the Day post.
2. Ya I did thought about testing you since Night 1 but didn't decide to go through with it just was badly executed >.<
3. Because I wanted to get a stronger read on you seeing how you and HF were butting heads hard Day 2 figuring out your alignment 100% was needed to make it easier on me.

Meh. These claims on "I did this weird thing because I was testing you" very often comes from scum, it's always seems like a good excuse to somehting you can't explain. I will reread your filter after I'm done catching up. Will I find some proof that you were trying to test GB since N1 ?

Found this, is it what you're talkign about ?
On May 28 2018 08:46 LightningStrike wrote:
Ya I just not taking GB seriously even though I think he's town ^_^


That was me being a bit snarky at the same time that was just the start testing the waters regarding that test.
On June 01 2018 20:36 Rels wrote:
During D2 you thought scums were not AFK and made a mistake during EOD1:
On May 29 2018 04:09 LightningStrike wrote:
On May 29 2018 03:47 Rels wrote:
On May 29 2018 01:03 LightningStrike wrote:
Like I think it was a huge mistake for scum to even let that lynch happen with 3 votes only. They could of saved their scummate easily either on you or df Koshi.

well why do you think scum made a mistake then ? Couldn't they have been AFK instead ?

Because I doubt they wouldn't just go afk at deadline or close to deadline. Unless they were trying to be cocky for some reason.

On May 29 2018 04:15 LightningStrike wrote:
On May 29 2018 04:12 Rels wrote:
On May 29 2018 04:09 LightningStrike wrote:
On May 29 2018 03:47 Rels wrote:
On May 29 2018 01:03 LightningStrike wrote:
Like I think it was a huge mistake for scum to even let that lynch happen with 3 votes only. They could of saved their scummate easily either on you or df Koshi.

well why do you think scum made a mistake then ? Couldn't they have been AFK instead ?

Because I doubt they wouldn't just go afk at deadline or close to deadline. Unless they were trying to be cocky for some reason.

So basically, you think the 2 scums left are people who were not AFK at deadline, and who didn't vote Jealous ? So basically, they're in GB / fuba / I ?

Maybe 1 afk at most. I doubt both of them would be afk. They might be in the other wagons potentially.


But now you have the entirely opposite analyse, thinking the scumteam is DF / byj and was AFK EOD1:
On June 01 2018 05:11 LightningStrike wrote:
On June 01 2018 05:06 GlowingBear wrote:
On June 01 2018 05:04 LightningStrike wrote:
On June 01 2018 04:59 GlowingBear wrote:
On June 01 2018 04:55 LightningStrike wrote:
On June 01 2018 04:54 GlowingBear wrote:
Wait wait wait

LS, you thought fuba was scum before????

From rechecking vc I refuse to believe I was voting with scum Day 1 on that Koshi wagon after seeing the Koshi flip (forgot to do a vca after Koshi got lynched and finally decided to do some).


But don't you think that, if Jealous was the counterwagon, there must be at least 1 mafia in Koshi's wagon?

Koshi and df were the only counter wagons to scum!Jealous so ya can happen but I refuse believe that since we had 2 counter wagons to scum!Jealous


One of which there is a town - Glowingbear.

One of us voted with mafia, under your perspective.

I know it can happen just don't think Rels and fuba are mafia atm after my VCA which in conclusion had a very inactive scum team of df and byj at EoD which can explain how we were able to lynch scum with 3 votes.

Why ? What changed ?

My VCA unless I really voted with mafia on the Koshi Wagon Day 1 or you being mafia voting with GB then by PoE it was them which can also explain why the jealous lynched happened EoD.

Can you link it to the right part ? I'll take a look at it in a few hours when I'm home.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/526062-names-are-hard-2?user=LightningStrike&page=7 Middle of the page area.
Not as elaborate as this one but still was a reaction test to see if I could bite a scum or two.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
June 01 2018 15:50 GMT
#1208

Day 3 Vote Count



LightningStrike [2]: GlowingBear, Rels
Rels [1]: byj
Holyflare [1]: GlowingBear, fuba
fuba [0]: byj

Not Voting [4]: Holyflare, LightningStrike, darthfoley, Grackaroni


LightningStrike is currently the lynch.

The deadline is Friday, Jun 01 10:59pm GMT (GMT+00:00) which is in

If I've made an error with the vote count, let me know.
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14276 Posts
June 01 2018 15:55 GMT
#1209
Seriously is no one really going to talk? Man this suck balls when i wanted to play
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
June 01 2018 16:04 GMT
#1210
LS I can't tell who you think is mafia. Do you still think Fuba or someone else?
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
June 01 2018 16:13 GMT
#1211
nvm I see you said that you don't think it's Fuba because you don't think your day 1 vote was with scum Fuba.
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14276 Posts
June 01 2018 16:21 GMT
#1212
On June 02 2018 01:13 Grackaroni wrote:
nvm I see you said that you don't think it's Fuba because you don't think your day 1 vote was with scum Fuba.

Pretty much and left my poe as DF and byj.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
byj
Profile Joined November 2015
494 Posts
June 01 2018 16:38 GMT
#1213
On June 01 2018 23:51 Rels wrote:
Yeah, if you replace "pay" by "don't AFK 24 hours and arguee with people to get your lynch"

Yeah true, should've done that when I had no way to access the internet, which I announced in the thread beforehand

I don't even remember why you were so sure Koshi was town. Something about the lynch D1 making him town I think ? I'll check that tonight

The people on him wanting to lynch him.
byj
Profile Joined November 2015
494 Posts
June 01 2018 16:39 GMT
#1214
Not Voting [4]: Holyflare, LightningStrike, darthfoley, Grackaroni
Mind getting your votes in?
##unvote
##vote: Darthfoley
byj
Profile Joined November 2015
494 Posts
June 01 2018 16:40 GMT
#1215
Or wait, only 6h left, nice
##unvote
##vote: fuba
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
June 01 2018 16:45 GMT
#1216
I'm confused why you keep arguing this when DF wasn't there at the end of the day.
On May 29 2018 02:58 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2018 18:24 Koshi wrote:
On May 27 2018 01:33 Rels wrote:
On May 27 2018 00:13 darthfoley wrote:
So my girlfriend surprise visited me yesterday so I'm gonna be busy this weekend plus I don't really give a shit about this game so fair warning.

I've finally read up

Townie:
Rels
Jealous
GB

GB has been very active and feels like he wants the game to progress. Rels has a townie vibe and shit. I enjoy Jealous's pictures and they aren't hard to read.

Scummy
Rayn
LS
grack

Rayn has been scummy because I don't like his line of attack on jealous at all. HF explained why it's dumb. LS and Grace have been active enough but I think they've kind of just been existing. I also didn't agree with Grack about how those were the towniest town posts Koshi has ever written. They looked like pretty normal Koshi random 100% declarations "this person is toppers of the tip top toppity top town"

Everyone else hasn't been memorable or is null

This is such a scummy post. It's just a lazy list with one-line reasonning on a few reads. It's exactly what I would expect scum with no time or motivation to post.

You are mafia.
- No vote
- No interaction with thread about this post.

Except my whole EOD has been talking about this post ...

You're in a unique position if you're town. From your POV, a lot of people are very likely town. All the people voting Jealous for starter. GB probably too, if I remember right, 'cause even though he switched at the very end, I think he was the one that consolidated the wagon. And DF too, 'cause if I remember right, he had a reason to switch to you when the vote was close, and didn't. I'll have to check if his vote would have changed the lynch at that point, but if yes, I don't think DF can be scum if you're not.

If you're scum, the game is a lot more open, a lot of people can be your partner. Basically everyone apart from the early votes on you and Jealous.

But from your POV, the game should be easy. So if you're town, please show it like you usually do.

On May 29 2018 03:42 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2018 19:50 Koshi wrote:
Yeah.. what can I say. I am undecided on df atm.

Why isn't he almost conf town from your POV ... ? He could have lynched you but didn't.

On May 29 2018 03:53 Rels wrote:
'cause I don't agree. Koshi's posts didn't convince me. When he's town he gets very excited about something and it shows. The only time it happened this game was in his first spree of posts D1. Koshi not knowing what to do about DF when DF had the opportunity to hammer him is also weird.

What I'm saying is: KILL KOSHI. If he's town it should become obvious.
##Vote Koshi

Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
June 01 2018 16:47 GMT
#1217
Sure.

I'm going to vote Rels for now but I'm still reading through things atm.
I don't think LS is the right lynch.
byj
Profile Joined November 2015
494 Posts
June 01 2018 16:49 GMT
#1218
Rels his high on my Scum radar so I wouldn't mind switching to him if nobody wants to go for fuba.
fuba
Profile Joined April 2014
United States663 Posts
June 01 2018 16:54 GMT
#1219
But guys... HF.
@theRealMkfuba07
byj
Profile Joined November 2015
494 Posts
June 01 2018 16:56 GMT
#1220
On June 02 2018 01:54 fuba wrote:
But guys... HF.

Since we have 2 Mafia left, who'd be your 2nd pick?
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