[M][N] Elementary Mafia - Page 58

On June 01 2018 04:41 byj wrote:
##Vote: fuba

What somewhat bothers me is that, if fuba really was town, he didn't get lynched. In that case Mafia probably would've had an easy time to get me lynched considering many people seem to be suspicious of me. That would allow them to be 1 step from victory, and maybe help them with a later Koshi lynch. If both fuba and Koshi were town I see no reason for them to choose Koshi.

On June 01 2018 04:43 GlowingBear wrote:


Wouldn't it be way too scummy?

I mean, wouldn't scum fake being worried?

On June 01 2018 04:21 LightningStrike wrote:
You know what GB I going to just do some work now starting with Vote count

This all the confirmed/UnCCed stuff since I know mafia hold their shot. If Fuba was actually mafia then I was actually voting with mafia Day 1. If HF was mafia and knowing Koshi's alignment how come Mafia HF would lynch Jealous over Koshi Day 1 in that scenario? Doesn't make sense. I don't think Rels is mafia on filter but he's a pretty good scum player so by POE it would of been you df and byj. Now if mafia did shoot you then you're 100% scum so by PoE after that it is byj and df which is a bit strange as I never really read their filter tighly nor do I got a good case.

On June 01 2018 04:43 GlowingBear wrote:
I need a game where you were mafia, LS. I need to check your meta
Can you point me to one?

On June 01 2018 04:46 fuba wrote:

My view of HF's actions D1 is that he was faced with three options: He "hammers" Jealous, he hammers DF, or he hammers Koshi. This will get complicated where DF is concerned, so I guess there's 4 options.

HF hammers scum DF:
He is seen as pretty firmly town, but GB is also seen as pretty firmly town cuz shenannies. A pretty good option.

HF hammers town DF:
Probably not good! Especially if we flip Jealous the next day and find out that DF was a counter-scum wagon. Terrible option.

HF hammers town Koshi:
Pretty much the same scenario as with town DF, but with more backlash. He is under scrutiny, people wonder why he didn't hammer either of the other two people, and this draws attention to Jealous, HF, and DF day 2. Regardless of DF's alignment, this is bad for scum!HF.

HF hammers scum Jealous:
This is the best of both worlds for HF (aside from losing a scumbuddy, albeit one who was barely playing at the end of D1 and would have been under constant scrutiny the whole game). GB switches from Jealous to DF. HF pretends he's going along with it, knowing that when he actually votes Jealous, and Jealous flips scum, that GB will look bad for shenannying off a scum wagon. This works whether DF is scum or not - either HF was forced into this decision by picking between two scumbuddies, or he didn't want to be the hammer on a town shenannywagon to save his relatively inactive scumbuddy. Also, if DF is scum, it kind of set him up as a "town counterwagon" to the scum Jealous wagon, simply by virtue of the aggression HF showed to GB after the flip. HF has given himself a reason to go hard against GB even though most people kind of agreed that GB was pretty townie.

On June 01 2018 04:54 GlowingBear wrote:
Wait wait wait

LS, you thought fuba was scum before????

On June 01 2018 04:55 LightningStrike wrote:

From rechecking vc I refuse to believe I was voting with scum Day 1 on that Koshi wagon after seeing the Koshi flip (forgot to do a vca after Koshi got lynched and finally decided to do some).

On June 01 2018 04:24 GlowingBear wrote:
Fuba, I like your recent posts but I have a hard time believing in some things you say. Here are my problems with your play:

1) You said that Koshi came to thread as genuine town, but voted him day1, and kept you vote on him when Jealous was the counterwagon, and you admitted Jealous was okay as a police lynch? I couldn't find a post where you scumread Koshi, so I don't understand what happened there.

2) After the day1 lynch, you never mentioned Koshi. Your vote on him looks was a survival vote. I feel it looks bad, if I'm town I'm not voting a townread over me, I'll try to convince people until the very end that my target is the best lynch, or I would get lynched.

Care to explain these two points?

On June 01 2018 04:59 GlowingBear wrote:


But don't you think that, if Jealous was the counterwagon, there must be at least 1 mafia in Koshi's wagon?

On June 01 2018 04:58 LightningStrike wrote:
GB just listen to me there is a chance of you being wrong on HF's alignment and mafia might be in the df,byj area although if I wrong on a town read it would take a much closer look at Rels.

On June 01 2018 05:04 LightningStrike wrote:

Koshi and df were the only counter wagons to scum!Jealous so ya can happen but I refuse believe that since we had 2 counter wagons to scum!Jealous

On June 01 2018 05:05 GlowingBear wrote:


I'm aware. I'm just trying to figure you out.

I have so many problems with your filter. Yet some posts comes really townish.

I'll check meta later, I need to rest from the game a little.

Here are my problems with you:

1) You trying to say you're contacting the mods seemed like you wanted to get townread. It was forced and it looked bad.
2) I don't believe when you say you were testing me. You've asked for mafia to kill you at night1, said you didn't really want to play anymore, then you voted yourself. Were you thinking about testing me since night1? It doesn't make sense. It felt to me like you were trying to look selfless by killing yourself, and your plan backfired, so you came up with this "test" thing.
3) Why testing my alignment if you think I'm town?

On June 01 2018 05:06 GlowingBear wrote:


One of which there is a town - Glowingbear.

One of us voted with mafia, under your perspective.

On June 01 2018 05:09 LightningStrike wrote:

1.I was just saying I had contacted the mods just so people were wondering who had potentially had contacted them since they were late on the Day post.
2. Ya I did thought about testing you since Night 1 but didn't decide to go through with it until today just was badly executed >.<
3. Because I wanted to get a stronger read on you seeing how you and HF were butting heads hard Day 2 figuring out your alignment 100% was needed to make it easier on me.