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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
May 31 2018 19:09 GMT
#1121
##Unvote
##Vote: LightningStrike
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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
May 31 2018 19:10 GMT
#1122
On June 01 2018 04:09 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2018 04:07 GlowingBear wrote:
Why are you so dodgy about your reads, LS?

Just lynch me.


I am doing it.

I'm never supporting this kind of behaviour. I prefer to lose the game if you're town. And if you're mafia, I get one step closer to victory.
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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
May 31 2018 19:12 GMT
#1123
It's a shame, though. I'm having fun trying to solve day1.
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fuba
Profile Joined April 2014
United States663 Posts
May 31 2018 19:19 GMT
#1124
On June 01 2018 03:59 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2018 03:53 fuba wrote:
My two scum are DF and HF, but mostly from a paranoia POV. I'm not entirely sure of it, and generally from my way of scumhunting it's harder to read high-content posters, but I feel like since the moment Jealous was pretty locked in as the lynch, HF's been playing the long game. If DF is scum, then HF was basically able to pull the trigger on one of his scumbuddies D1 without fear and make himself look better in the process (and also making the alternative lynch candidate look townier because they were the counterwagon). He railed against rayn, he railed against GB, he railed against Koshi - either all high content posters who will oppose him or people that had the potential to read him well. People who can oppose his outspoken personality late game. He hasn't gone after (from what I can remember) me, DF, or byj - not sure about LS or Rels - I think they're kinda in the middle. If scum HF is going to survive with a team of himself, Jealous, and DF, he needs to take out those that can oppose him end game and will pursue it to his lynch. He tried to get the doc to protect himself over you, scum tried to take you out last night instead of him. He's not really trying to get other people to post more than they are - he's settling on high content posters and, if he's town, just kind of assuming the low content posters are town for no reason.

DF is kinda there as an afterthought and somewhat because of what I said yesterday. His spot could be filled by someone else - dunno who though. And I'm kind of locked in the thought of HF choosing between which of his two scum mates to hammer D1.


Okay.

This would make byj, rels and LS town.
Why could they be town, especially LS?

If one of those two scumreads of yours flips town, then who would be mafia?

I'd say byj gets some town points from me for actually trying to drum up discussion when most people seem absent. Between Rels and LS... Hard for me to say - I'll take a closer look at the votes for the last few days probably to get a better idea. I do remember that LS was saving his vote for shenannies for some reason, when if he had voted his day-long scumread I would have been the dead one instead of Koshi. Like, what shenannies was he saving himself for? He could have lynched his scum. Though now that I think of it - what reason does scum!LS have for not hammering me when he has set it up all day? I mean, I'd flip town, but scum has to be ready to accept some head for mislynches. I'd say it's weird reasoning, but not necessarily scummy.

Considering my previous thoughts on Rels, I think I somehow got it all mixed up in my head. I was seeing his questioning of you regarding you voting Grack instead of LS as somewhat scum leaning, but I have no idea why that was the case - just seems like someone trying to figure out why someone isn't voting for their scum read instead of a random low-poster. Leaning town until I go through the vote counts more closely.

Just realizing that my scumlist (HF DF) puts both of them on koshi D2 - not sure that really eliminated the possibility (that proposed scum team is kind of in bad luck after D2).
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fuba
Profile Joined April 2014
United States663 Posts
May 31 2018 19:20 GMT
#1125
On June 01 2018 04:19 fuba wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2018 03:59 GlowingBear wrote:
On June 01 2018 03:53 fuba wrote:
My two scum are DF and HF, but mostly from a paranoia POV. I'm not entirely sure of it, and generally from my way of scumhunting it's harder to read high-content posters, but I feel like since the moment Jealous was pretty locked in as the lynch, HF's been playing the long game. If DF is scum, then HF was basically able to pull the trigger on one of his scumbuddies D1 without fear and make himself look better in the process (and also making the alternative lynch candidate look townier because they were the counterwagon). He railed against rayn, he railed against GB, he railed against Koshi - either all high content posters who will oppose him or people that had the potential to read him well. People who can oppose his outspoken personality late game. He hasn't gone after (from what I can remember) me, DF, or byj - not sure about LS or Rels - I think they're kinda in the middle. If scum HF is going to survive with a team of himself, Jealous, and DF, he needs to take out those that can oppose him end game and will pursue it to his lynch. He tried to get the doc to protect himself over you, scum tried to take you out last night instead of him. He's not really trying to get other people to post more than they are - he's settling on high content posters and, if he's town, just kind of assuming the low content posters are town for no reason.

DF is kinda there as an afterthought and somewhat because of what I said yesterday. His spot could be filled by someone else - dunno who though. And I'm kind of locked in the thought of HF choosing between which of his two scum mates to hammer D1.


Okay.

This would make byj, rels and LS town.
Why could they be town, especially LS?

If one of those two scumreads of yours flips town, then who would be mafia?

I'd say byj gets some town points from me for actually trying to drum up discussion when most people seem absent. Between Rels and LS... Hard for me to say - I'll take a closer look at the votes for the last few days probably to get a better idea. I do remember that LS was saving his vote for shenannies for some reason, when if he had voted his day-long scumread I would have been the dead one instead of Koshi. Like, what shenannies was he saving himself for? He could have lynched his scum. Though now that I think of it - what reason does scum!LS have for not hammering me when he has set it up all day? I mean, I'd flip town, but scum has to be ready to accept some head for mislynches. I'd say it's weird reasoning, but not necessarily scummy.

Considering my previous thoughts on Rels, I think I somehow got it all mixed up in my head. I was seeing his questioning of you regarding you voting Grack instead of LS as somewhat scum leaning, but I have no idea why that was the case - just seems like someone trying to figure out why someone isn't voting for their scum read instead of a random low-poster. Leaning town until I go through the vote counts more closely.

Just realizing that my scumlist (HF DF) puts both of them on koshi D2 - not sure that really eliminated the possibility (that proposed scum team is kind of in bad luck after D2).

Mmm... So basically... I don't know LOL

Jesus I'm fluffy.
@theRealMkfuba07
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
May 31 2018 19:21 GMT
#1126
You know what GB I going to just do some work now starting with Vote count
On May 27 2018 08:04 Calix wrote:

Day 1 Final Vote Count



Jealous [3]: raynpelikoneet, Grackaroni, GlowingBear, Holyflare
Koshi [2]: fuba, Holyflare, LightningStrike
darthfoley [2]: Rels, GlowingBear
Grackaroni [1]: GlowingBear, Holyflare, darthfoley
Rels [1]: Koshi, Grackaroni
GlowingBear [1]: Holyflare, byj, Holyflare
byj [1]: Jealous
Holyflare [0]: raynpelikoneet
LightningStrike [0]: byj
raynpelikoneet [0]: GlowingBear, Holyflare
fuba [0]: GlowingBear

Not Voting [0]:


Jealous is the lynch.

The deadline is Saturday, May 26 10:59pm GMT (GMT+00:00) which is in .

If there is an error in the vote count, you can speak up now before I post the flip ^^

This all the confirmed/UnCCed stuff since I know mafia hold their shot. If Fuba was actually mafia then I was actually voting with mafia Day 1. If HF was mafia and knowing Koshi's alignment how come Mafia HF would lynch Jealous over Koshi Day 1 in that scenario? Doesn't make sense. I don't think Rels is mafia on filter but he's a pretty good scum player so by POE it would of been you df and byj. Now if mafia did shoot you then you're 100% scum so by PoE after that it is byj and df which is a bit strange as I never really read their filter tighly nor do I got a good case.
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
May 31 2018 19:22 GMT
#1127
Ya I changing my mind on my fuba read because I refuse to believe that I was votign with scum Day 1 on Koshi's Day 1 wagon.
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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
May 31 2018 19:24 GMT
#1128
Fuba, I like your recent posts but I have a hard time believing in some things you say. Here are my problems with your play:

1) You said that Koshi came to thread as genuine town, but voted him day1, and kept you vote on him when Jealous was the counterwagon, and you admitted Jealous was okay as a police lynch? I couldn't find a post where you scumread Koshi, so I don't understand what happened there.

2) After the day1 lynch, you never mentioned Koshi. Your vote on him looks was a survival vote. I feel it looks bad, if I'm town I'm not voting a townread over me, I'll try to convince people until the very end that my target is the best lynch, or I would get lynched.

Care to explain these two points?
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
May 31 2018 19:25 GMT
#1129
Also that voting myself thing was to test your alignment GB just was a botched execution >.<
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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
May 31 2018 19:27 GMT
#1130
On June 01 2018 04:21 LightningStrike wrote:
You know what GB I going to just do some work now starting with Vote count
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2018 08:04 Calix wrote:

Day 1 Final Vote Count



Jealous [3]: raynpelikoneet, Grackaroni, GlowingBear, Holyflare
Koshi [2]: fuba, Holyflare, LightningStrike
darthfoley [2]: Rels, GlowingBear
Grackaroni [1]: GlowingBear, Holyflare, darthfoley
Rels [1]: Koshi, Grackaroni
GlowingBear [1]: Holyflare, byj, Holyflare
byj [1]: Jealous
Holyflare [0]: raynpelikoneet
LightningStrike [0]: byj
raynpelikoneet [0]: GlowingBear, Holyflare
fuba [0]: GlowingBear

Not Voting [0]:


Jealous is the lynch.

The deadline is Saturday, May 26 10:59pm GMT (GMT+00:00) which is in .

If there is an error in the vote count, you can speak up now before I post the flip ^^

This all the confirmed/UnCCed stuff since I know mafia hold their shot. If Fuba was actually mafia then I was actually voting with mafia Day 1. If HF was mafia and knowing Koshi's alignment how come Mafia HF would lynch Jealous over Koshi Day 1 in that scenario? Doesn't make sense. I don't think Rels is mafia on filter but he's a pretty good scum player so by POE it would of been you df and byj. Now if mafia did shoot you then you're 100% scum so by PoE after that it is byj and df which is a bit strange as I never really read their filter tighly nor do I got a good case.


How do you know mafia hold their shot? Care to explain?
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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
May 31 2018 19:28 GMT
#1131
On June 01 2018 04:25 LightningStrike wrote:
Also that voting myself thing was to test your alignment GB just was a botched execution >.<


And what was your conclusion?
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
May 31 2018 19:32 GMT
#1132
On June 01 2018 04:27 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2018 04:21 LightningStrike wrote:
You know what GB I going to just do some work now starting with Vote count
On May 27 2018 08:04 Calix wrote:

Day 1 Final Vote Count



Jealous [3]: raynpelikoneet, Grackaroni, GlowingBear, Holyflare
Koshi [2]: fuba, Holyflare, LightningStrike
darthfoley [2]: Rels, GlowingBear
Grackaroni [1]: GlowingBear, Holyflare, darthfoley
Rels [1]: Koshi, Grackaroni
GlowingBear [1]: Holyflare, byj, Holyflare
byj [1]: Jealous
Holyflare [0]: raynpelikoneet
LightningStrike [0]: byj
raynpelikoneet [0]: GlowingBear, Holyflare
fuba [0]: GlowingBear

Not Voting [0]:


Jealous is the lynch.

The deadline is Saturday, May 26 10:59pm GMT (GMT+00:00) which is in .

If there is an error in the vote count, you can speak up now before I post the flip ^^

This all the confirmed/UnCCed stuff since I know mafia hold their shot. If Fuba was actually mafia then I was actually voting with mafia Day 1. If HF was mafia and knowing Koshi's alignment how come Mafia HF would lynch Jealous over Koshi Day 1 in that scenario? Doesn't make sense. I don't think Rels is mafia on filter but he's a pretty good scum player so by POE it would of been you df and byj. Now if mafia did shoot you then you're 100% scum so by PoE after that it is byj and df which is a bit strange as I never really read their filter tighly nor do I got a good case.


How do you know mafia hold their shot? Care to explain?

Idk if they did or not but in the OP it says mafia can hold their shot so it just a possibility.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
May 31 2018 19:33 GMT
#1133
On June 01 2018 04:28 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2018 04:25 LightningStrike wrote:
Also that voting myself thing was to test your alignment GB just was a botched execution >.<


And what was your conclusion?

More likely town based on your anger part seems super genuine don't think you would of been that angry as scum. But I had other reasons for reading you town such as your day 1 stuff and you actually believing in your pushes.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
May 31 2018 19:34 GMT
#1134
God I wish my computer didn't crash on me while I tried to type my first post took a longer time to respond because of it -.-
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
May 31 2018 19:35 GMT
#1135
On June 01 2018 04:33 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2018 04:28 GlowingBear wrote:
On June 01 2018 04:25 LightningStrike wrote:
Also that voting myself thing was to test your alignment GB just was a botched execution >.<


And what was your conclusion?

More likely town based on your anger part seems super genuine don't think you would of been that angry as scum. But I had other reasons for reading you town such as your day 1 stuff and you actually believing in your pushes.


If I didn't get angry, would you think I was scum?
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
May 31 2018 19:37 GMT
#1136
On June 01 2018 04:35 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2018 04:33 LightningStrike wrote:
On June 01 2018 04:28 GlowingBear wrote:
On June 01 2018 04:25 LightningStrike wrote:
Also that voting myself thing was to test your alignment GB just was a botched execution >.<


And what was your conclusion?

More likely town based on your anger part seems super genuine don't think you would of been that angry as scum. But I had other reasons for reading you town such as your day 1 stuff and you actually believing in your pushes.


If I didn't get angry, would you think I was scum?

Ya mainly because I would imagine you actually laughing and cheering for a potential free lynch but no you were super angry regarding that entire notion don't think you could do that scum knowing you very well.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
May 31 2018 19:38 GMT
#1137
On June 01 2018 04:37 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2018 04:35 GlowingBear wrote:
On June 01 2018 04:33 LightningStrike wrote:
On June 01 2018 04:28 GlowingBear wrote:
On June 01 2018 04:25 LightningStrike wrote:
Also that voting myself thing was to test your alignment GB just was a botched execution >.<


And what was your conclusion?

More likely town based on your anger part seems super genuine don't think you would of been that angry as scum. But I had other reasons for reading you town such as your day 1 stuff and you actually believing in your pushes.


If I didn't get angry, would you think I was scum?

Ya mainly because I would imagine you actually laughing and cheering for a potential free lynch but no you were super angry regarding that entire notion don't think you could do that as scum knowing you very well.

May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
May 31 2018 19:40 GMT
#1138
Hopefully that was useful stuff for you GB :o
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byj
Profile Joined November 2015
529 Posts
May 31 2018 19:41 GMT
#1139
##Vote: fuba

What somewhat bothers me is that, if fuba really was town, he didn't get lynched. In that case Mafia probably would've had an easy time to get me lynched considering many people seem to be suspicious of me. That would allow them to be 1 step from victory, and maybe help them with a later Koshi lynch. If both fuba and Koshi were town I see no reason for them to choose Koshi.
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
May 31 2018 19:43 GMT
#1140
On June 01 2018 04:37 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2018 04:35 GlowingBear wrote:
On June 01 2018 04:33 LightningStrike wrote:
On June 01 2018 04:28 GlowingBear wrote:
On June 01 2018 04:25 LightningStrike wrote:
Also that voting myself thing was to test your alignment GB just was a botched execution >.<


And what was your conclusion?

More likely town based on your anger part seems super genuine don't think you would of been that angry as scum. But I had other reasons for reading you town such as your day 1 stuff and you actually believing in your pushes.


If I didn't get angry, would you think I was scum?

Ya mainly because I would imagine you actually laughing and cheering for a potential free lynch but no you were super angry regarding that entire notion don't think you could do that scum knowing you very well.


Wouldn't it be way too scummy?

I mean, wouldn't scum fake being worried?
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