[M] Classic Mafia - Page 6

On March 24 2018 23:56 n00bKing wrote:

I don't know how much legwork it is or isn't. What I know is that Palmar told us he's only reading 20-30% of the game, and that he doesn't "meta" people. Then he went and dug up multiple links to discussions of the Coag "town seal" meta. If Coag is on the scum team with him, and this is the game where the seal is being broken, then the motivation is obvious.

It sounds to me like rsoul and/or rayn are hypothesizing that Palmar could instead have done that just to look like he was doing *something* and it wouldn't hurt his scum play to give town Coag all this help looking townie, because Coag is a well-known player, and the history of the town seal would have come to light if needed anyway.

That all sounds fine too. So again, red Palmar doesn't necessarily mean red Coag. I was only saying that unless or until we see red Palmar, I'm not even going to worry about a red Coag, because of how huge an indicator the town seal appears to be.

On March 25 2018 00:03 n00bKing wrote:


You won't make up for killing a Town player with a botched vig shot by killing another one with a botched Day 2 lynch. Do better.

Help us find a flaw in the arguments against Palmar, if there are any. Help us determine FF's alignment, if there's a way to do that. This Phase isn't do or die, but this Phase matters.

And if you're Town, your vote is in the wrong place.

On March 25 2018 02:10 MoosyDoosy wrote:

##Unvote
##Vote: disformation

instavote for shitty pun

On March 25 2018 02:11 MoosyDoosy wrote:
I kind of agree with rayn. I think noobking is scum here but I want to see other players' alignments first like darth.

I guarantee if darth flips scum, then ykl is scum as well

On March 25 2018 05:14 Fecalfeast wrote:
We'll see. I just refilled my coffee and my SO is leaving for the rest of the day so the conditions are perfect

On March 25 2018 06:30 n00bKing wrote:

If that doesn't feel like a real read, then I guess you haven't ever seen one.

On March 25 2018 06:51 n00bKing wrote:

I feel like there was really only one. It more or less amounted to "what did you discern from the night actions?" Unfortunately, we've had very little information about what the night actions actually were, and the analysis is made more difficult by not knowing how many mafia there are. (Again, that sure would be handy to know!)
I haven't had time to complete that analysis, as it takes actual effort. Skimming someone's meta is something I can do while doing something at the same time that isn't game-related. Responding to a bunch of posts in the thread is something that takes almost no time, because I am usually posting from a legit keyboard, and type over 90wpm. I can post comments on other posts almost as quickly as I generate thoughts about them. Analyzing what it means that Vivax and HF appear to have been the night-kill targets is a whole other kind of animal.
That said, from what I did get to of the comments from Vivax and HF on other players, other players' comments on Vivax and HF, and mixing in some inductive reasoning, I think HF and Vivax being the night-kills would help me feel better about Exo, mocsta, and Kelsier being town. And to a lesser extent, also Tictock. (So my vote on him was only about the fact that he's had bad posts throughout every stage of the game. I voted for him despite the night results, and not because of them.)
Meanwhile, HF and Vivax being the night-kills would make me more suspicious of Palmar, and you. And to a lesser extent, also Koshi and FecalFeast.
Not knowing how many mafia there are is a problem again here also, because the fewer of them there are, the more weight you can put on what each one's "desirable kills" would be, based on their play. But I think another factor is that if there is an overbearing personality on the scum team (like a Palmar, for example) then I could see it not mattering what the "desirable kills" would be for potential teammates like ykl or FecalFeast. Palmar might just browbeat them into whatever Night Actions he wanted anyway.
Palmar's meta looks slightly scum-indicative to me. His posts in this game (independent of the nightkills or his meta) already felt slightly scummy to me. The fact that he so powerfully scumreads someone I know to be Town does not help anything. Do I find anything in his filter that makes Vivax and Holyflare undesirable Night-kills for him? I do not. Do I think it would make sense for him to eliminate those targets, as maybe being players who have played with him a lot and could potentially use his meta history against him? Yeah, I could possibly see that. So that's the player I would flip today, were it my choice.

On March 25 2018 07:11 n00bKing wrote:

Sure, I could have worded that better. I have initial impressions of what the nightkills will mean about some other players. Gut-based, instinct stuff, before I check. Sixth sense told me the nightkills were going to look good for Tictock, I voted for him "despite" that. After the analysis I did confirmed what sixth sense told me, I kept my vote on him for a while longer "despite" that. (Again, which kills Tictock would like may not matter, if there were an overbearing personality on the team with him controlling decisions.) I completed enough of the analysis to draw other conclusions from the nightkills (as listed above), but did not complete the process entirely.

On March 25 2018 07:20 n00bKing wrote:

I don't really agree. It depends on other factors too.

Oh, and on that note, I'm a blue role.

On March 25 2018 07:27 n00bKing wrote:

shrug? I've claimed less than 10 minutes before deadline before.

On March 25 2018 07:49 n00bKing wrote:

Never have, never will.

On March 25 2018 07:52 n00bKing wrote:

Not all things can be redeemed. Not even by Mafia Jesus.

On March 25 2018 07:55 n00bKing wrote:

Pretty sure Jesus was a King.

On March 25 2018 07:58 rsoultin wrote:
\o/

jesus is truly adorable. if only his skin wasn't so sooooft