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Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
March 24 2018 21:17 GMT
#2519
On March 24 2018 23:56 n00bKing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2018 23:48 Mocsta wrote:
Coag seal is no leg work

I know about it and rven 5 years ago it was before my time.

Palmar has record here for playing at least one game a year since tl mafai inceptiin

Nice attempt n00b. I give credit there but ultimately it was a n00b effort.

I don't know how much legwork it is or isn't. What I know is that Palmar told us he's only reading 20-30% of the game, and that he doesn't "meta" people. Then he went and dug up multiple links to discussions of the Coag "town seal" meta. If Coag is on the scum team with him, and this is the game where the seal is being broken, then the motivation is obvious.

It sounds to me like rsoul and/or rayn are hypothesizing that Palmar could instead have done that just to look like he was doing *something* and it wouldn't hurt his scum play to give town Coag all this help looking townie, because Coag is a well-known player, and the history of the town seal would have come to light if needed anyway.

That all sounds fine too. So again, red Palmar doesn't necessarily mean red Coag. I was only saying that unless or until we see red Palmar, I'm not even going to worry about a red Coag, because of how huge an indicator the town seal appears to be.


See this is what I mean about noob.

Can’t be bothered to give even an inkling as yo what his read on me is, but continues to hammer this single point about Palmar without anything new.

It’s also cute how he’s said Coag’s seal is legit but is indirectly suggesting “maybe this is the game he breaks the seal”
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
March 24 2018 21:24 GMT
#2520
On March 25 2018 00:03 n00bKing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2018 23:13 Mocsta wrote:
Stay the course. N00b is lynch today.

Show nested quote +
On March 24 2018 23:15 Mocsta wrote:
Like im too lazy to play this cycle so trying not to add waste to my filter

You won't make up for killing a Town player with a botched vig shot by killing another one with a botched Day 2 lynch. Do better.

Help us find a flaw in the arguments against Palmar, if there are any. Help us determine FF's alignment, if there's a way to do that. This Phase isn't do or die, but this Phase matters.

And if you're Town, your vote is in the wrong place.


Weird that you both believe Mocsta is the Vig but end this posy with “if you are Town”
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
March 24 2018 21:27 GMT
#2522
On March 25 2018 02:10 MoosyDoosy wrote:
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On March 25 2018 00:10 disformation wrote:
On March 24 2018 23:57 Mocsta wrote:
On March 24 2018 23:54 disformation wrote:
i'm going to be a lazy cunt and call rs town for keeping to post after saying shell take a nap and has a headache.
might be biased, as I am getting tested for migraine stuff.

Not lazy at all
Keep making dem good reads

You will probably be at lylo so good to know you are invested

in-vested. indeed. :p

##Unvote
##Vote: disformation


instavote for shitty pun

On March 25 2018 02:11 MoosyDoosy wrote:
I kind of agree with rayn. I think noobking is scum here but I want to see other players' alignments first like darth.

I guarantee if darth flips scum, then ykl is scum as well


I’m really hating Moosy’s Play today. Feels like he is only touching the game with a 10 door pole and is super all over the place.

Really have no idea where his head is at.
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
March 24 2018 22:32 GMT
#2556
On March 25 2018 05:14 Fecalfeast wrote:
We'll see. I just refilled my coffee and my SO is leaving for the rest of the day so the conditions are perfect


Funny this happened right before my post about FF giving some content
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
March 24 2018 22:37 GMT
#2561
On March 25 2018 06:30 n00bKing wrote:
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On March 25 2018 05:53 Tictock wrote:
Still feel ok lynching noob, though he finally put out some real content that felt ok, I really hated that post about me. And this palmar push feels more like he knows he needs to change gears and just has his sights on Palmar now than a real read.

If that doesn't feel like a real read, then I guess you haven't ever seen one.


Probably not from you, nope.

I have however been confirmed Town in at least one game with good reads. So I am familiar with them.
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
March 24 2018 22:38 GMT
#2562
On March 25 2018 06:51 n00bKing wrote:
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On March 25 2018 04:12 rsoultin wrote:
Noob still hasn't answered my questions -_-

I feel like there was really only one. It more or less amounted to "what did you discern from the night actions?" Unfortunately, we've had very little information about what the night actions actually were, and the analysis is made more difficult by not knowing how many mafia there are. (Again, that sure would be handy to know!)
I haven't had time to complete that analysis, as it takes actual effort. Skimming someone's meta is something I can do while doing something at the same time that isn't game-related. Responding to a bunch of posts in the thread is something that takes almost no time, because I am usually posting from a legit keyboard, and type over 90wpm. I can post comments on other posts almost as quickly as I generate thoughts about them. Analyzing what it means that Vivax and HF appear to have been the night-kill targets is a whole other kind of animal.
That said, from what I did get to of the comments from Vivax and HF on other players, other players' comments on Vivax and HF, and mixing in some inductive reasoning, I think HF and Vivax being the night-kills would help me feel better about Exo, mocsta, and Kelsier being town. And to a lesser extent, also Tictock. (So my vote on him was only about the fact that he's had bad posts throughout every stage of the game. I voted for him despite the night results, and not because of them.)
Meanwhile, HF and Vivax being the night-kills would make me more suspicious of Palmar, and you. And to a lesser extent, also Koshi and FecalFeast.
Not knowing how many mafia there are is a problem again here also, because the fewer of them there are, the more weight you can put on what each one's "desirable kills" would be, based on their play. But I think another factor is that if there is an overbearing personality on the scum team (like a Palmar, for example) then I could see it not mattering what the "desirable kills" would be for potential teammates like ykl or FecalFeast. Palmar might just browbeat them into whatever Night Actions he wanted anyway.
Palmar's meta looks slightly scum-indicative to me. His posts in this game (independent of the nightkills or his meta) already felt slightly scummy to me. The fact that he so powerfully scumreads someone I know to be Town does not help anything. Do I find anything in his filter that makes Vivax and Holyflare undesirable Night-kills for him? I do not. Do I think it would make sense for him to eliminate those targets, as maybe being players who have played with him a lot and could potentially use his meta history against him? Yeah, I could possibly see that. So that's the player I would flip today, were it my choice.


Never reading this post.
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
March 24 2018 22:41 GMT
#2566
On March 25 2018 07:11 n00bKing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2018 07:01 rsoultin wrote:
On March 25 2018 06:51 n00bKing wrote:
On March 25 2018 04:12 rsoultin wrote:
Noob still hasn't answered my questions -_-

I feel like there was really only one. It more or less amounted to "what did you discern from the night actions?" Unfortunately, we've had very little information about what the night actions actually were, and the analysis is made more difficult by not knowing how many mafia there are. (Again, that sure would be handy to know!)
I haven't had time to complete that analysis, as it takes actual effort. Skimming someone's meta is something I can do while doing something at the same time that isn't game-related. Responding to a bunch of posts in the thread is something that takes almost no time, because I am usually posting from a legit keyboard, and type over 90wpm. I can post comments on other posts almost as quickly as I generate thoughts about them. Analyzing what it means that Vivax and HF appear to have been the night-kill targets is a whole other kind of animal.
That said, from what I did get to of the comments from Vivax and HF on other players, other players' comments on Vivax and HF, and mixing in some inductive reasoning, I think HF and Vivax being the night-kills would help me feel better about Exo, mocsta, and Kelsier being town. And to a lesser extent, also Tictock. (So my vote on him was only about the fact that he's had bad posts throughout every stage of the game. I voted for him despite the night results, and not because of them.)
Meanwhile, HF and Vivax being the night-kills would make me more suspicious of Palmar, and you. And to a lesser extent, also Koshi and FecalFeast.
Not knowing how many mafia there are is a problem again here also, because the fewer of them there are, the more weight you can put on what each one's "desirable kills" would be, based on their play. But I think another factor is that if there is an overbearing personality on the scum team (like a Palmar, for example) then I could see it not mattering what the "desirable kills" would be for potential teammates like ykl or FecalFeast. Palmar might just browbeat them into whatever Night Actions he wanted anyway.
Palmar's meta looks slightly scum-indicative to me. His posts in this game (independent of the nightkills or his meta) already felt slightly scummy to me. The fact that he so powerfully scumreads someone I know to be Town does not help anything. Do I find anything in his filter that makes Vivax and Holyflare undesirable Night-kills for him? I do not. Do I think it would make sense for him to eliminate those targets, as maybe being players who have played with him a lot and could potentially use his meta history against him? Yeah, I could possibly see that. So that's the player I would flip today, were it my choice.

You are doing something really wonky here with your timing. First you 'don't have time to complete the analysis', then HF and Vivax 'make you feel better about TT', but you voted him 'despite' those results? How can you vote someone despite something that you hadn't looked into yet?

Sure, I could have worded that better. I have initial impressions of what the nightkills will mean about some other players. Gut-based, instinct stuff, before I check. Sixth sense told me the nightkills were going to look good for Tictock, I voted for him "despite" that. After the analysis I did confirmed what sixth sense told me, I kept my vote on him for a while longer "despite" that. (Again, which kills Tictock would like may not matter, if there were an overbearing personality on the team with him controlling decisions.) I completed enough of the analysis to draw other conclusions from the nightkills (as listed above), but did not complete the process entirely.


Wait, how did the NK’s look good for me?
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
March 24 2018 22:43 GMT
#2569
On March 25 2018 07:20 n00bKing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2016 19:31 Palmar wrote:
If a person claims blue to save himself ALWAYS, ALWAYS lynch him. It is always the right play.

I don't really agree. It depends on other factors too.

Oh, and on that note, I'm a blue role.


Don’t buy this.

Probably just tunneled, but it’s so desperate.
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
March 24 2018 22:44 GMT
#2570
On March 25 2018 07:27 n00bKing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2018 07:24 rsoultin wrote:
Why wait this long?

shrug? I've claimed less than 10 minutes before deadline before.


This is a dismissal not an answer.
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
March 24 2018 22:47 GMT
#2571
Stay the course everyone this here is mafia flipping time.

Then dude who prob should just obs for a bit flipping time.

Then it’s my weekend so don’t expect much from me! Yay!
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
March 24 2018 22:49 GMT
#2572
Just gunna also say pre-emptively that NK wasywilling to swap to FF till the end or ever actually push him.

FF is almost certainly mafia if NK flips red.
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
March 24 2018 22:50 GMT
#2574
Lol, that should be “wasn’t willing”
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
March 24 2018 22:51 GMT
#2576
On March 25 2018 07:49 n00bKing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2018 07:47 Tictock wrote:
Then it’s my weekend so don’t expect much from me! Yay!

Never have, never will.


Aww thanks buddy.

Glad you stay around here to help make TL mafia. A better place.
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
March 24 2018 22:53 GMT
#2578
On March 25 2018 07:52 n00bKing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2018 07:51 Tictock wrote:
On March 25 2018 07:49 n00bKing wrote:
On March 25 2018 07:47 Tictock wrote:
Then it’s my weekend so don’t expect much from me! Yay!

Never have, never will.

Aww thanks buddy.

Glad you stay around here to help make TL mafia. A better place.

Not all things can be redeemed. Not even by Mafia Jesus.


Baby seal accepted.
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
March 24 2018 22:55 GMT
#2583
Noob can you tell your team not to shoot me?

I wanna play this game a little longer at least.
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
March 24 2018 22:55 GMT
#2585
On March 25 2018 07:55 n00bKing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2018 07:53 Palmar wrote:
On March 25 2018 07:52 n00bKing wrote:
On March 25 2018 07:51 Tictock wrote:
On March 25 2018 07:49 n00bKing wrote:
On March 25 2018 07:47 Tictock wrote:
Then it’s my weekend so don’t expect much from me! Yay!

Never have, never will.

Aww thanks buddy.

Glad you stay around here to help make TL mafia. A better place.

Not all things can be redeemed. Not even by Mafia Jesus.

You call yourself King.

But what is a King to a God?

Pretty sure Jesus was a King.


+ Show Spoiler [Hint] +
He's talking about himself too
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
March 24 2018 22:57 GMT
#2587
GG Noob.
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
March 24 2018 22:59 GMT
#2590
On March 25 2018 07:58 rsoultin wrote:
\o/

jesus is truly adorable. if only his skin wasn't so sooooft


Creepy...
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
March 24 2018 23:04 GMT
#2597
Well shit >.<

That is such a letdown.
I can take that responsibility.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
March 24 2018 23:04 GMT
#2600
wtf does that put is in with at least 2 NK's incoming?
I can take that responsibility.
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