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On March 20 2018 17:07 Holyflare wrote: good scum read should be sarcasm given this post which followsScummy because he is doing the same thing he did last game of defending logic rather than elaborating on mafia reads and being fluid. | ||
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Again. Why is he scummy outside this kelsier dialogue? | ||
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Multiple parties including you and hf have independently said exo is scummy Im following up that not hf/nk On that note and outside the hf/nk clarifications, I agree with others that nk is vibing same as last game. Arguing lots of semantics etc. | ||
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Look in general i find him to be a heavy introverted intuition user like rsoultin and myself and equally verbose as town or scum. The main thing for me this game is the prodding that goes no where. I would have ezpected him to truly dig beyond the surface into something by now Too hard to post on phone eith crying baby in othet hand. Speak tomorrow | ||
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~17pages with 20 people and enough content to gwnuinely scum hunt. Over the next 24hours we need to focus on resolutions to these topics. With 20 players and ?5? Scum there is a 1/4 chance scum is in every convo. Consolidation will be key as last minute vote swaps is both scum favoured and will make future vote count analysis almost useless. Off the top of my head big topics are: Exo/kelsier Noobking/HF Probably moosey and the self vote Df and the roleplay Slam vibe change I cant tell if koshi is in the mix or mentiined as collateral I think only non posters are sicklucker and rels Thoughts before bed and wjthout properly reading page 21 onwards. Moose is town I have no issue with df. Not sure why others are annoyed. Exo kelsier is tvt Hf uncertain Nk scum Slam need to read medic to confirm vibe change Dark horse read is one of palmar and hf is scum Not sure which Something tickled me weird with palmar. Will see if it still triggers me when i wake. Hf here cos i found him to be a bit more flacid than i am used to in palmar presence. Could be a respect thing. Meh. Nite | ||
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On March 20 2018 22:21 Vivax wrote: the irony here is that i was tjinking the same thing exo was... oribably a personality tell va. Alignment thenSome thoughts I feel like sharing in inconclusive post manner. - Almost purely tonally TT and NK look town to me. - rsoultin hasn't been pestering anyone and might be mafia for it. - Did anyone hijack Kelsiers account? Don't even want to decide what he is as long as he keeps posting. - Koshi probably town for not giving a shit so far, will have confirmation when the town Koshi trademark posts start to pour in. - ykl very diplomatic, could come from mafia, currently stuck deciding whether he's just catering to the people he answers to. However his filter leads me to Mocstas for this reason: + Show Spoiler + On March 20 2018 12:16 ykl wrote: Ah, that's pretty weird. Intention was only to say ExO- and Conversion are chasing down the wrong path, bad wording from my part. I wouldn't say that no further info is needed and they are all confirmed town, just that I don't read either of them as "scum" at the moment and that when I made the post, neither case was particularly well thought out? I really don't have much to say about Moosy or n00bking. Moosy has been trying to off himself, which screams someone that really doesn't want to play the game or is frustrated about something, could swing either way to be honest? I don't think what he's doing is helpful at the moment but its ignorable. n00bking, I really got more interested in the last post he made. Completely ignored the scumread from Conversion and does not seem to want to interact with him at all, instead makes a quick side track to challenge Ticktock instead. I think it's odd here that Mocsta pays attention to the TMI element in the #232 post he links in the nested quote and emphasizes it when ykl said he doesn't think either are scum already which implies that there is at least a null read, I also didn't like Mocstas post on TT. It was cute style-wise but also read like plain rhetoric without much substance cause the entire point was to ping TT for the sole reason that he hadn't been pinged yet. I'd have found the part more interesting where he says: Bolded is pretty much an example of a"let me go and look for something to write about on the go" mindset, but in a natural way. I think this particular case comes from town cause he's so brazen about it. Scum does it more accidentally. To have the post actually end conclusively though, I need to point out something else and why I still think we should lynch ExO: I believe it's a very mafia thing to do to point at what the guy pressuring you isn't doing while he is busy with you, cause it's a way of getting rid of pressure by trying to play it back to him based on the posting quantity of said person. Tixtock was a mistake by me. I got lost in the style and later retracted. Treat it how yoy will | ||
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On March 21 2018 06:04 MoosyDoosy wrote: Can you please confirm if this is real content or trolling?Mafia is in: ykl, ExO_, Tictock, Mocsta ykl + Show Spoiler + On March 20 2018 12:16 ykl wrote: Ah, that's pretty weird. Intention was only to say ExO- and Conversion are chasing down the wrong path, bad wording from my part. I wouldn't say that no further info is needed and they are all confirmed town, just that I don't read either of them as "scum" at the moment and that when I made the post, neither case was particularly well thought out? I really don't have much to say about Moosy or n00bking. Moosy has been trying to off himself, which screams someone that really doesn't want to play the game or is frustrated about something, could swing either way to be honest? I don't think what he's doing is helpful at the moment but its ignorable. n00bking, I really got more interested in the last post he made. Completely ignored the scumread from Conversion and does not seem to want to interact with him at all, instead makes a quick side track to challenge Ticktock instead. ExO_ + Show Spoiler + On March 20 2018 08:09 ExO_ wrote: Moosy I’m going to try my best to assess you fairly, but damn you’re like a hyperactive kid in a Candy store. But you come into the thread saying you need someone to explain the setup because you can’t be arsed to read it....after you /out earlier because of number of players. Scum leaning on you for this reason. On March 20 2018 10:40 ExO_ wrote: My theory is if he’s /outing because of number of players he’s probably read the setup. And on a personal note it annoys me how moosy can take the time to post a bunch of filler candy crap, but not read the setup Tictock + Show Spoiler + On March 20 2018 11:32 Tictock wrote: Stop doing this moosy. You've done it as town and as scum last game, also it is against the rules of the game. It literally means nothing and is a waste of space. Mocsta + Show Spoiler + On March 20 2018 08:05 Mocsta wrote: FILTER STARTS HERE +1 This made me laugh (almost out loud). Moosey annoying me already. 20 people is already a lot of filter to have to go through, let alone this spam. No further thoughts worth sharing. Post 1 / 7 I would also sheep alakaslam, noobking. Like dude... I thought you said you were a reformed person. I don't know you, haven't played with you; however, everything this game is indicating otherwise. If its real content, fine. Im happy to talk about it - e.g. why is there a focus on the initial content of players? How does this meld with the later stages of content... How does me + ykl work as a team? How does ExO + tictock work as a team? If trolling as town, all you are doing with this is creating more attention to you; and distracting others from lynch scum. Which is it? | ||
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On March 21 2018 07:12 rsoultin wrote: Is it really? Seems half-arsed to me now that I have seen the HF addition.-flicks- I want to give you a D1 pass for reaction fishing, since I know that you do that as town. But that can't be all that you've noticed or thought about the entire game. So why sheep slam or noob? I didnt realise prior that all scum read quotes have moosy being annoying or scummy in common. With that deduction, moosy has dropped town points for me.. just like DF went serious for a couple posts to convey something. I really think moosy should have stopped trolling for at least a handful of posts as well. | ||
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So when I spoke to Moosy about trolling etc that was without knowledge of you on p28. Now that I have caught up: I like the mindmeld. Not specifically the action, but rather, the tone. Welcome to my hard town circle. Palmar, im the vig btw. Dont care to say it because mafia dont have a RB. | ||
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(1) I have an important dinner tonight so wont be able to critically read anything (2) Where I work has been thrown in an unplanned shutdown.. I really dont know if I can commit the time to apply critical thought. I still think Day1 comes down to resolutions on the big topics: Slam Moosy Ex0/KSC, Koshi/Disfo/n00bking, DF Rest is probably side distractions. My current (albeit loose) thoughts are: Above null pile (Ex0_, rsoultin, vivax, rayn, Kelsier, ykl, disinfo, Palmar Null pile (HF, Conversion, Slam, darthfoley, Rels, tictock, sicklucker, koshi, moosy) Below null pile (n00bking) Of the above null, I feel least strong about disinfo as its based on a heuristic that is gut feel only. Conversion is in null pile as I havent focused on anything he has said. Slam I would still need to meta-dive. DF I actually like, but I give pause since so many others have issue. I wouldnt lynch today, and would prefer not to use a bullet on. tictock is in null pile as I was surprised by the content since waking. Maybe im selfish, but I was quite surprised he didnt ask me anything. moosy i agree is not on the table Day1. Could be easy mislynch; so focus on other scum team. Apologies to leave it like this. | ||
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On March 21 2018 07:39 Conversion wrote: nope they did not.did rels or sicklurker even post? must have been a quick filter dive yeah it was. basically dived rels, sicklucker, Darthfoley, rayn and moosy. Only content in darthfoley and moosy  | ||
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On March 21 2018 07:54 n00bKing wrote: This monologue is pointless - as both of you are debating YOUR values on how to play the game. Not what Darthfoley is actually doing with the roleplay.Don't really agree, personally. How does the persona help him hide, if how annoying it is becomes a topic of conversation? I also haven't known scum players to normally be bored enough that they have to do anything like inventing a persona, in order to keep themselves entertained. Drawing a scum role should never be boring, it's pulling a town role that's boring. (I believe someone already said early in this thread that they pulled a town role and it's boring.) I haven't seen many people invent a role like this for themselves, but when they have, they've been town (and then they've been asked to cut it out, much like what's been happening to darthfoley here.) So while we mostly agree that it doesn't point too strongly in either direction, if *I* had to pick I would say it is more of a town indicator. I would rather see that either of you furnish quotes that express town or scum motivation, then additional comments on the above. | ||
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indulge with that Ni insight. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/532111-classic-mafia?user=n00bKing What is your position on top 2 or 3 scum candidates. + Show Spoiler [NK] + #144 - Setup speculation #159 - Setup speculation #188 - Vivax -> Moosy clarification: Read unknown #276 - tictock -> ExO_ clarification: Read unknown #278 - Interesting Slam comment (indicative of NK/Slam team). DF comment. Vote Disfo. ykl suggestive pressure. No true position taken (as liking Koshi vote can be similar to liking ykl pressure) #280 - Critiquing grammer #337 - Confirms that conversion is being ignored. Intentionally dodging ykl (of relevance, as later NK states ykl is good target for pressure. This should then present a fantastic opportunity to counter-pressure) #339 - Does not take position on mcosta or tictock. Just states that mocsta logic is poor. #340 - curious about slam. Odd phrasing. Trying to draw out information (one of the first posts from NK trying to do this) - the question is for what purpose. #341 - Indicates agreement abotu Ex0 not reading the thread (or likely to be town) #343 - Arguing actions in theory, with no comment on players at hand. Trys to sway HF into a disagreement with tictock #344 - Comprehension question #361 - Is arguing logic, without indicating a lean towards any player in question #591 - Takes position that DF is leaning town #592 - Filler #595 - Debate logic. States Exo actions are indicative of town play; but at no points declare Ex0 town #603 - Requests conversion to build a case against him #604 - Wants to target lurkers and inexpereinced players to divulge motive. LOL. now that I have filter dived scrap that request ##Vote: n00bking
NK is playing filler this cycle, while chastising other players for being illogical. Classic scum maintaining activity by shitting on others to avoid posting real content. P.S.NK known for wordplay.. pay attention to end of day posts with moosy/prplhz last game. If NK flips scum, slam is almost certainly scum | ||
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On March 21 2018 08:34 Holyflare wrote: Perhaps its the ply of your toilet paper, but you havent tickled me yet in the way a town HF normally tickles me.As if I'm null while you simultaneously scum read noobking. I realise I don't know how a scum!HF tickles, but I have certainly seen the town tickle across the games this year. Until I see a bit more of that magic around the game, you are still in my null pile. | ||
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On March 21 2018 08:57 n00bKing wrote: Know this. Im vig, and if you arent lynched Day1.Here's a strategic decision that would be informed on D2 by knowing how many mafia the game started with: WHO TO LYNCH. If you know how many members of the mafia there are, you know how many kills they can execute. Then you can see if any are "missing." If you don't know how many to expect, then a healer doesn't know whether to have added trust toward the target he healed. A roleblocker or jailkeeper doesn't know whether to have added suspicion toward their own target. Circumstantial evidence yielded by the night results will very often outweigh whatever inclinations players previously had, about who "seemed" town and who "seemed" scummy. Instead of the pure guessing game of Day 1, you have hard data to work with...IF you know how many mafia members there are. So it's CRITICAL information. Unfortunately, the OP doesn't even give us a RANGE of possible answers. There's literally nothing keeping this from being an 11/9 setup at this point. Or 19/1. You still wont be around Day2. | ||
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On March 21 2018 09:00 Holyflare wrote: LOL. someone is using sandpaper near me. dunno why since Im in an office.Funny you mention it now. I'm using it and am thoroughly disappointed. but... it made me think of you LOL. | ||
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On March 21 2018 09:34 n00bKing wrote: Indeed, as we are all aware they have a very special vigilante.lol, right, right. You're the Vigilante, and the scum do not have a roleblocker. Since you've already informed us that the scum don't have a roleblocker, could you please go ahead and tell us which roles they DO have? Would it be safe to assume they have...a Vigilante?  But how about instead of inferring; you put the cock on the block and state my alignment. FYI in general: On March 15 2018 21:25 Calix wrote: Game Mechanics - Order of Operations: Mafia roleblocks -> town roleblocks -> heals -> mafia/ vigilante kills -> investigations -> other On March 15 2018 21:25 Calix wrote: Mafia-exclusive Role PMs Backup [role]: When a specific PR of any alignment dies, you take on their role. This ability is passive and cannot be roleblocked. If that role had limited abilities that were spent, you are not refunded these abilities. If you are role-copped after you have taken on a role, you will appear as that role. Strongman: If you target a player for the night kill, your shot pierces through all protection. This includes roleblocks, jails, and heals. | ||
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On March 21 2018 09:47 n00bKing wrote: Why aren't you assuming im mafia.I'm the last person who needs the rules and roles quoted to me. As shown in the order of operations, the mafia roleblock would be enforced before a vigilante shot. And there is exactly no reason for you to assume they do not have a roleblocker. Or a jailkeeper. So let's all just hope you're not a town vigilante. Because if you are, you've done a very stupid thing. You dont like my tictock posts. I am calling you mafia. You have caught me with TMI. Vote me . | ||
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I preferred you in character. Responding to that chatter is only satisfying NK agenda to avoid having to scum-hunt. NK says "disfo/ykl are good targets to pressure" but at no points applies, said pressure. My question for you is why arent you voting NK. | ||
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DF. you didnt answer the q. | ||
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