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Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
February 10 2018 16:30 GMT
#1735
But I also think it's scum rsoultin based on her play too.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
February 10 2018 16:31 GMT
#1736
So quite the quandary.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
February 10 2018 16:34 GMT
#1738
On February 11 2018 01:33 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2018 01:22 Holyflare wrote:
On February 11 2018 01:11 Damdred wrote:
sorry guys had to put my dad in the hospital last night for a few days but ill be here mostly until lynch.

Got to catch up but im going to vote tina.


Why did you say mderg's unvote made him towny but not apply this to rsoul? Furthermore, why did you say rsoul was a townread at that point and then when she did the same thing FIRST did you vote her over mderg when you had to consolidate?


Hi HF, the way the thread happened I attribuited mderg doing it first regardless of who actually unvoted first.

He said my rs read is shit and then unvoted some time later, i didnt pay as much attention when the votes actually came off. i thght that mderg doing it was more towny because he was killing himsef, as for tina well I never really felt like she was in danger of being the lynch if that makes sense at that point?

And idk about the vote I thought mderg was towny for doing it, voting who he wanted and made rs vote with him. I still dont think my vote mattered and its probably the worst loking vote ive do e.


What? She unvoted and put herself joint wagon lead?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
February 10 2018 17:23 GMT
#1745
On February 11 2018 01:48 Damdred wrote:
tina will argue with a box to prove a point, lex is a strong righteous man


mderg will not however
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
February 10 2018 18:18 GMT
#1748
raynpelikoneet (1): rsoultin
Conversion (1): prplhz
darthfoley (1): Koshi
Not Voting (1): disformation

4 players not taking a stance on a main wagon and if they have they are not trying at all to divert a lynch to who they want
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
February 10 2018 18:56 GMT
#1757
This also means that unless prplhz or one of the people that killed mderg are mafia then rsoultin is being bussed or is town. I don't think prplhz did anything to save mderg/rsoultin other than saying "I don't like lynching mderg or rsoultin" and didn't join them on df so it's unlikely they're partners. Probably.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
February 10 2018 19:01 GMT
#1759
On February 08 2018 05:13 darthfoley wrote:
Rayn/Damdred don't look very good tbh.

Rayn committed to df/rsoultin only when it's very close
Damdred votes rsoultin last minute when it's very close


On February 08 2018 13:02 darthfoley wrote:
i'm just gonna say mafia is something like

rayn/rsoultin
rayn/rels slot
rayn/conversion

idk. rayn is back to looking bad now

+ Show Spoiler +
in b4 he posts an essay about how bad we are for scum reading him


Absolutely nothing changed between these two things so why did damdred drop out of your scum reads?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
February 10 2018 19:22 GMT
#1769
I think my ego has been relatively in check this game. Surprisingly so.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
February 10 2018 19:22 GMT
#1770
On February 11 2018 04:22 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2018 04:20 disformation wrote:
the smiley kinda throws me off.
Like I can see stuff like "at least lynch scum rayn next day!" coming from town.
but this "enjoy lynching town smiley" is super fucking spiteful

and I don't know if that is a town tell for her not


Generally she is a bit more helpful? But whats the point of not trying to lynch me after i vote her? If shes scum whats the play and why be suicidal i dont know.


You can't use this argument twice in a row dude.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
February 10 2018 19:25 GMT
#1772
No, not really.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
February 10 2018 19:26 GMT
#1773
It's not like she didn't try day 1 either. She just got hammered by a lot of people.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
February 10 2018 19:39 GMT
#1776
Damdred is already throwing out the excuses though.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
February 10 2018 19:52 GMT
#1782
On February 11 2018 04:47 darthfoley wrote:
If Damdred is mafia he's just playing very sub optimally so I think he's probably Town? Even with the inconsistencies


You haven't even commented on the inconsistencies? Why did rsoul join your scum team and why is your main scum team rsoul and rayn when rayn is pushing rsoul and vice versa?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
February 10 2018 20:03 GMT
#1789
Lol ok
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
February 10 2018 20:05 GMT
#1794
On February 11 2018 04:58 darthfoley wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2018 09:16 darthfoley wrote:
On February 10 2018 08:22 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I am trying to talk directly to you Holyflare because talking to Koshi is like talking to a brick. It is quite funny actually that when Koshi happens to be right D1, if he doesn't die during night 1 the town is more likely to lose the game since he feels like a champion and completely unable to listen to anyone else. I tried for a while during N1 but then i decided to throw because i never even got to my point Koshi just pushed whatever he thinks was the correct idea. I am gonna try once more, if this goes to deaf ears then for all i care you can murder me because i don't really feel like playing let's see if Koshi finds mafia game.

What i tried to heavily imply during night 1 is to not cop check rsoultin. I am not sure if there is a normal cop who checked rsoultin but a green on her should always be claimed (obviously red too -- but green yes, only on her). The reason is that rsoultin, if not confirmed green, is always the bast lynch D2. It doesn't even fucking matter if she flips town. Always lynch the counter-wagon who mafia refused to vote on to save themselves, always.

Option 1: rsoultin flips town
We can, in this situation always assume that everyone on mderg wagon are town. Mocsta could maybe bus but who cares, that's for later, never care about that until lylo. That leaves the following people, who either voted for rsoultin or off-wagon:

Damdred
darthfoley
disformation
Conversion
raynpelikoneet
prplhz

You have a pool of 6 people who can be mafia.
- If you have 2 blues in those, game over. Town wins.
- If you have 1 blue in those, game over, town wins (2 lynches until lylo and mislynch every time -> 2 mafia 1 town in that pool in lylo) almost always, only retarded town loses here.
- If you have zero blues there you have to actually make reads..... Let's see what we have here very quickly:

Damdred - pushes the anti-mafia idea all N1 and D2
darthfoley - pushes the anti-mafia idea all N1 and D2
disformation - hasn't said anything, i don't even know if he has scumreads
Conversion - Koshi sheeple and master of inconsistancies
raynpelikoneet - you can think whatever you want
prplhz - he could have technically even saved mderg with him, so is extremely unlike to be mafia

The thing is, if you can even rule out ONE person there, who isn't mafia, you win the game. I can rule out fucking 3, easily. The dudes who push the anti-mafia idea. Ironically Koshi's lynch list at the moment is the three people who push the correct town play aka me/df/damdred. So yeah, go listen to Koshi if you want to.

Option 2: rsoultin flips mafia
Game opens up a lot, but who cares, we lynched mafia.




The thing is Holyflare, rn three people say very very stupid stuff. rsoultin, Mocsta and disformation.

disformation made a post where he suggested that i am mafia and i was either trying to bus df (over rsoultin lynch), or trying to find an alternative lynch. Vote situation at the time 5 on rsoultin, some random 1's on some random other people. You srsly think that conclusion makes any fucking sense in any world at all? Then there is his conversion read and how he ended up reading conversion and how he ended up explaining himself after. It smells super fucking bs.

I genuinely believe Mocsta has slipped. Deal with it. I could possibly back off from that but everything that comes out of his keyboard so far is either copy of someone else or taking some post and inventing a (horrible) scum reasoning for it. Then there is the post where his #1 scumread (me) tells him that, and he somehow gets offended??? OF course i am trying to shit on his reads if i am mafia. I get Damdred getting emotionally "too invested" in the game and taking offense on something he shouldn't, but Mocsta, who himself continuosly tells other people they are bad? No fucking way.

I don't even care to write about rsoultin because i don't see a single townie thing she has done this game. Koshi sees all the townie things ofc but i don't, so there is that.




I only made my promise to Koshi because i was very annoyed at him, and i still am. If you happen to realize i have all day been sarcastic about it. I don't care what Koshi says, i don't care what he does, he can try to solve the game by himself if he wants to. Maybe he even can. But that will happen without me as he doesn't do anything but shit on everything someone he doesn't like in this game for whatever reason says.

So yeah, there is that.

#unvote
##vote rsoultin

I don't care what alignment she is, it is just the correct play based on D1 end.
Do whatever you want to, my vote stays.


Maybe I sheep you. Idk if you are ever mafia with this post.



This is not my point at all. You said damdred and rayn looked really bad for the votes on rsoul and then magically rsoultin came back into being mafia WITH rayn despite rayn wanting to lynch rsoultin!

So, why did rayn look bad while simultaneously voting for someone you thought was mafia!
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
February 10 2018 20:05 GMT
#1795
Damdred concede plz
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
February 10 2018 20:06 GMT
#1798
Let it be known that I made cases on mafia all game and yolo switched to mafia.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
February 10 2018 20:07 GMT
#1800
And why are you confirmed town?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
February 10 2018 20:08 GMT
#1802
Possible
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
February 10 2018 20:08 GMT
#1805
None of the mderg wagon is safe anymore
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