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Conversion
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
February 07 2018 01:16 GMT
#448
I feel like a ton of people in a French boat race will be French but who knows.

I’m surprised rsoultin hasn’t visited the thread at all.
Conversion
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
February 07 2018 12:29 GMT
#628
I am awake and a lot has happened. I have glanced at new content, but will not post opinions and thoughts in case I miss something or make a mistake again until I am in front of a computer. It looks as if some people are moving away from a rsoultin lynch, could I get a quick summary of that? Besides Koshi, who is hard townreading rsoultin right now.

Also would like suggestions on who I should filter dive so I am not aimlessly diving people and wasting my time, if my thoughts would be valuable here.

@Mderg I need more from you. Your posts lack content, if you’re town. Where’s your head at for the rest of D1?
Conversion
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
February 07 2018 13:34 GMT
#664
On February 07 2018 22:17 Koshi wrote:
Can still lynch mderg. No way a townie ends up with 10 mafia suspects in a 13 player game. That's not where you end up while solving things.

This is nitpicking. And that is all it is.


I will agree with this. That was not a good post at all from mderg.
Conversion
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
February 07 2018 14:27 GMT
#684
On February 07 2018 22:49 rsoultin wrote:
There are glimmers of something in mderg's filter until the list post, which is mostly nulullllullululull.

I was gonna bother but you know what?

Truffle felt town to me most of the game until the reversal on Conversion's case. It's not even that Conversion's case was bad, because it wasn't; it's that it touched on the sort of intangibles that the Truffle of years ago didn't tend to find compelling. I think he's still town but don't give him a free pass.

Holyflare is whatever the fuck. I can never tell even when I care.

And I'm sure you all will blame me when you inevitably lynch me tonight after I bugger off for the rest of the day, but personally I only hold myself responsible for the beginning of the day when I was being a bit of a snit. At some point this game just isn't worth it anymore.

Voting mderg.

Don't want to vote DF without talking to ritoky about his read first.


Could you touch upon the Truffle post more? If you’re willing.

And the first line on mderg— is his filter bad or good? Can’t tell.

I am running late to work for other reasons so hopefully will be in front of a computer soon.
Conversion
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
February 07 2018 14:31 GMT
#685
I guess it is bad because you are voting for him, but it is not clear as it wasn’t clear as to why you were voting me.
Conversion
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
February 07 2018 15:02 GMT
#687
I'm not picking on him for having 10 scum reads. I am picking on him for his list post saying absolutely nothing and not progressing/helping me progress on where his head is at for D1, which the deadline is fast approaching. He could have literally posted nothing and kept his vote on rsoultin and it would have had the same impact.
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Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
February 07 2018 15:08 GMT
#690
and I'd like rsoultin to respond, but I doubt she will. It would help her case a lot more if she did so than you, as I need to be able to see what she is thinking and experience her clarifying her points.

If I really want to nitpick on the mderg point:

On February 07 2018 22:14 mderg wrote:
A good old summary post you all know and love. Comment: Who actually likes these posts?


Damdred: Nothing Comment: Literally says nothing.
ritoky: doesn't give a fuck, tone says town. Read on me kind of makes sense except I haven't been active or present enough to do anything. I've been really disconnected from the game, though Comment: translates to, I guess he is town, but disclaimer I didn't do anything this game.
Mocsta: Feels different from last game, almost his whole game revolved around roultin at the start. Started being a bit more jumpy now. Not sure how that makes me feel. Comment: Says nothing.
darthfoley: Not liking his early scumread on Mocsta, for what I consider dumb reasons. Some omgus on Trfel, Rayn and Mocsta. Sounds very annoyed at some points. Could maybe see scum. Comment: Possible scum
Rels: Nothing Comment: Literally says nothing.
Conversion: Didn't like him questioning me about this "bullshit" thing with rsoultin at first. his reasoning actually makes sense for a townie, though. his posts mostly don't seem very memorable but his points on rsoultin resonate really well with me. Gets a pass for now. Comment: I guess his read was good, but he gets a "pass" since I didn't like his earlier post. Does this mean I am town only for this day?
rsoultin: Her posts give of a much different feel from the last game. She's not this nice lady trying to get everyone involved and figure out their motives. She's much more aggressive in her questioning of people. Would lynch. Comment: We already knew this from his vote and earlier post.
raynpelikoneet: don't know, honestly. His reads seem fine for the most part. Comment: Says nothing.
Koshi: Doesn't feel like the great multiple awards winning town hero Koshi. Seems like he wants to lynch 99% based on post count. Not to my liking. Comment: Says nothing aside from I don't like Koshi this game
Holyflare: Comment: ???
Trfel: Heavy focus on Conversion early on but then switched off him, not quite sure why. Like his pressure on koshi. Comment: Says nothing.
prplhz: No idea how to read him at this point Comment: Says nothing.:


This post is literally saying most of the players are null, maybe one is possible scum. It is not a good post. It was unnecessary.
Conversion
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
February 07 2018 15:12 GMT
#691
Man I'm tempted to sheep Koshi 100% and just lynch mderg or prplhz this game. Both filters are terrible.

Koshi, why mderg > prplhz? I may be missing it from your filter, but I'm assuming it's because of mderg's list post and tone.
Conversion
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
February 07 2018 15:26 GMT
#693
Someone (I think DF) also called out how hilarious it was that mderg commented on how he liked Mocsta for kind of knowing where he was going in the game, but also said he had a hard time really understanding his posts..

I think we centralize on prplhz/mderg/rsoul here. I'm leaning more towards prplhz/mderg, but I didn't like rsoultin's latest string of posts either. I will explain that soon.
Conversion
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
February 07 2018 16:18 GMT
#707
I wrote a big post on what I didn't like with rsoultin's post here:

On February 07 2018 22:16 rsoultin wrote:
Pending on you, koshi. It skeeves me out a little that you're focused on lynchbait and right on my alignment where most everyone else is wrong. I know you've picked your scum game up recently.

But I can see where you're coming from on your prp lynch and it really comes down to whether or not 1) I agree that all the active people are more likely town or at least have a decent shot at it or 2) that it makes sense for you to think that.

Also, could you explain this? I think you said it was about df and why rayn scumreads him, but I'm not following at all:

Show nested quote +
On February 07 2018 20:10 Koshi wrote:
Why did you say that though? It sounds a bit weird. Mayne cuz I am not a native speaker but still..

I believe your arguments are wrong

That sounds so icky.




but I lost it in refreshing the thread maybe? I am sad.

The point was summed up to be she was at earlier day thinking I was scum for missing posts that could have been met with more scrutiny in filters/reading the thread, and even repeated saying that it was not great behavior (although NAI), and then proceeded to do it with Koshi.
Conversion
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
February 07 2018 17:58 GMT
#717
I don't see a stark difference between mderg between this game and last game, to be honest. Besides his list posts, but even then it's just put more formatting/words in versus not.

On January 19 2018 18:50 mderg wrote:
Trying to shortly summarize my thoughts on everyone


Twat: probably town
kmatt: no idea
Damerion: don't like his tunneling on damdred, could be scum
btdt: no idea
Mocsta: probably town, conversation with rsoultin looks like town on town argument
Rels: just latches onto the damdred wagon and his work is done
rsoultin: probably town
df: meh
damdred: leaning town
prplhz: no idea
Kelsier: leaning towads town very slightly
Holyflare: I would expect more from town hf but I always have him as scum


is this list post from Newbie.
Conversion
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
February 07 2018 17:58 GMT
#718
Thanks rsoultin for your clarification on Truffle's play. Appreciate content like that even if you aren't obligated to answer me.
Conversion
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
February 07 2018 18:00 GMT
#719
On February 08 2018 02:58 Conversion wrote:
I don't see a stark difference between mderg between this game and last game, to be honest. Besides his list posts, but even then it's just put more formatting/words in versus not.

Show nested quote +
On January 19 2018 18:50 mderg wrote:
Trying to shortly summarize my thoughts on everyone


Twat: probably town
kmatt: no idea
Damerion: don't like his tunneling on damdred, could be scum
btdt: no idea
Mocsta: probably town, conversation with rsoultin looks like town on town argument
Rels: just latches onto the damdred wagon and his work is done
rsoultin: probably town
df: meh
damdred: leaning town
prplhz: no idea
Kelsier: leaning towads town very slightly
Holyflare: I would expect more from town hf but I always have him as scum


is this list post from Newbie.


Expanding upon this post, it is entirely possible that mderg and rsoultin is a TvT lynch. Which sucks. If I were to follow Koshi's logic, I should most likely lynch mderg over rsoultin because I think I have the ability to read her more than him. However, I'm not sold on that because I'm not great at reading people.

Hmm. I have a meeting until an hour before deadline. Will be back by then.
Conversion
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
February 07 2018 19:28 GMT
#767
I am back. Meeting ran over, typical.

On February 08 2018 03:07 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2018 03:00 Conversion wrote:
On February 08 2018 02:58 Conversion wrote:
I don't see a stark difference between mderg between this game and last game, to be honest. Besides his list posts, but even then it's just put more formatting/words in versus not.

On January 19 2018 18:50 mderg wrote:
Trying to shortly summarize my thoughts on everyone


Twat: probably town
kmatt: no idea
Damerion: don't like his tunneling on damdred, could be scum
btdt: no idea
Mocsta: probably town, conversation with rsoultin looks like town on town argument
Rels: just latches onto the damdred wagon and his work is done
rsoultin: probably town
df: meh
damdred: leaning town
prplhz: no idea
Kelsier: leaning towads town very slightly
Holyflare: I would expect more from town hf but I always have him as scum


is this list post from Newbie.


Expanding upon this post, it is entirely possible that mderg and rsoultin is a TvT lynch. Which sucks. If I were to follow Koshi's logic, I should most likely lynch mderg over rsoultin because I think I have the ability to read her more than him. However, I'm not sold on that because I'm not great at reading people.

Hmm. I have a meeting until an hour before deadline. Will be back by then.


Then who would you want to lynch? And my issue with mderg here vs Newbie is there was more sparkle in Newbie. There's only one or two things I'd call sparkle here. And yes I know that I'll have to expand on that let me see if I can.

Also I think I'd prefer Darth foley if not mderg but I really want ritoky to come back for that cause he's a really good player as town and I want to hear his reasons before I decided to ignore them, if I do.


I would lynch prplhz. Mainly because he is the only other one that I shamelessly sheeped Koshi on, do not like his filter, and he also promised to be better this game which he is not doing.
Conversion
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
February 07 2018 19:30 GMT
#773
On February 08 2018 04:12 darthfoley wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2018 03:00 Conversion wrote:
On February 08 2018 02:58 Conversion wrote:
I don't see a stark difference between mderg between this game and last game, to be honest. Besides his list posts, but even then it's just put more formatting/words in versus not.

On January 19 2018 18:50 mderg wrote:
Trying to shortly summarize my thoughts on everyone


Twat: probably town
kmatt: no idea
Damerion: don't like his tunneling on damdred, could be scum
btdt: no idea
Mocsta: probably town, conversation with rsoultin looks like town on town argument
Rels: just latches onto the damdred wagon and his work is done
rsoultin: probably town
df: meh
damdred: leaning town
prplhz: no idea
Kelsier: leaning towads town very slightly
Holyflare: I would expect more from town hf but I always have him as scum


is this list post from Newbie.


Expanding upon this post, it is entirely possible that mderg and rsoultin is a TvT lynch. Which sucks. If I were to follow Koshi's logic, I should most likely lynch mderg over rsoultin because I think I have the ability to read her more than him. However, I'm not sold on that because I'm not great at reading people.

Hmm. I have a meeting until an hour before deadline. Will be back by then.


I really think you're town. Don't let me down plz


If you are saying this point I brought up is bringing your opinion of me down, I am just saying I feel as if this could be a possibility. Who knows, though.
Conversion
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
February 07 2018 19:34 GMT
#780
On February 08 2018 04:30 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2018 04:28 Conversion wrote:
I am back. Meeting ran over, typical.

On February 08 2018 03:07 rsoultin wrote:
On February 08 2018 03:00 Conversion wrote:
On February 08 2018 02:58 Conversion wrote:
I don't see a stark difference between mderg between this game and last game, to be honest. Besides his list posts, but even then it's just put more formatting/words in versus not.

On January 19 2018 18:50 mderg wrote:
Trying to shortly summarize my thoughts on everyone


Twat: probably town
kmatt: no idea
Damerion: don't like his tunneling on damdred, could be scum
btdt: no idea
Mocsta: probably town, conversation with rsoultin looks like town on town argument
Rels: just latches onto the damdred wagon and his work is done
rsoultin: probably town
df: meh
damdred: leaning town
prplhz: no idea
Kelsier: leaning towads town very slightly
Holyflare: I would expect more from town hf but I always have him as scum


is this list post from Newbie.


Expanding upon this post, it is entirely possible that mderg and rsoultin is a TvT lynch. Which sucks. If I were to follow Koshi's logic, I should most likely lynch mderg over rsoultin because I think I have the ability to read her more than him. However, I'm not sold on that because I'm not great at reading people.

Hmm. I have a meeting until an hour before deadline. Will be back by then.


Then who would you want to lynch? And my issue with mderg here vs Newbie is there was more sparkle in Newbie. There's only one or two things I'd call sparkle here. And yes I know that I'll have to expand on that let me see if I can.

Also I think I'd prefer Darth foley if not mderg but I really want ritoky to come back for that cause he's a really good player as town and I want to hear his reasons before I decided to ignore them, if I do.


I would lynch prplhz. Mainly because he is the only other one that I shamelessly sheeped Koshi on, do not like his filter, and he also promised to be better this game which he is not doing.


I don't oppose a prp lynch? I just think it's a coinflip.


Hmm. My diffident nature is showing as deadline is creeping upon me..

On one hand I really dislike mderg's filter, but I am not seeing too much of a difference between here and Newbie. I have not played Newbie, though, so maybe I would have seen it differently had I been in it.

On the other hand, I really disliked the majority of your Day1, and I am not sure if the recovery was enough to sway my decision...

Ugh.
Conversion
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
February 07 2018 19:41 GMT
#797
On February 08 2018 04:36 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2018 04:34 Conversion wrote:
On February 08 2018 04:30 rsoultin wrote:
On February 08 2018 04:28 Conversion wrote:
I am back. Meeting ran over, typical.

On February 08 2018 03:07 rsoultin wrote:
On February 08 2018 03:00 Conversion wrote:
On February 08 2018 02:58 Conversion wrote:
I don't see a stark difference between mderg between this game and last game, to be honest. Besides his list posts, but even then it's just put more formatting/words in versus not.

On January 19 2018 18:50 mderg wrote:
Trying to shortly summarize my thoughts on everyone


Twat: probably town
kmatt: no idea
Damerion: don't like his tunneling on damdred, could be scum
btdt: no idea
Mocsta: probably town, conversation with rsoultin looks like town on town argument
Rels: just latches onto the damdred wagon and his work is done
rsoultin: probably town
df: meh
damdred: leaning town
prplhz: no idea
Kelsier: leaning towads town very slightly
Holyflare: I would expect more from town hf but I always have him as scum


is this list post from Newbie.


Expanding upon this post, it is entirely possible that mderg and rsoultin is a TvT lynch. Which sucks. If I were to follow Koshi's logic, I should most likely lynch mderg over rsoultin because I think I have the ability to read her more than him. However, I'm not sold on that because I'm not great at reading people.

Hmm. I have a meeting until an hour before deadline. Will be back by then.


Then who would you want to lynch? And my issue with mderg here vs Newbie is there was more sparkle in Newbie. There's only one or two things I'd call sparkle here. And yes I know that I'll have to expand on that let me see if I can.

Also I think I'd prefer Darth foley if not mderg but I really want ritoky to come back for that cause he's a really good player as town and I want to hear his reasons before I decided to ignore them, if I do.


I would lynch prplhz. Mainly because he is the only other one that I shamelessly sheeped Koshi on, do not like his filter, and he also promised to be better this game which he is not doing.


I don't oppose a prp lynch? I just think it's a coinflip.


Hmm. My diffident nature is showing as deadline is creeping upon me..

On one hand I really dislike mderg's filter, but I am not seeing too much of a difference between here and Newbie. I have not played Newbie, though, so maybe I would have seen it differently had I been in it.

On the other hand, I really disliked the majority of your Day1, and I am not sure if the recovery was enough to sway my decision...

Ugh.


-squints at- That just sounds like you should be voting me. I don't see what the waffle is about.


You can look into my meta (past all the unfun, toxic, ragey bullshit) and you will see that by nature I am waffley. But you are right, I will remain steadfast in voting you and just have more confidence in my conclusion.
Conversion
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
February 07 2018 19:54 GMT
#831
I am being pulled into another meeting. I will remain confident per rsoultin's call out on my play and stick with my vote.

I have a good list of town reads that I will need to most likely re-evaluate during night. I hope we get more activity from the inactive players to help push town to victory.
Conversion
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
February 07 2018 19:57 GMT
#838
On February 08 2018 04:55 darthfoley wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2018 04:53 Holyflare wrote:
I don't need to consolidate on anything though. If I have to I'll save rsoul because she types words though.


...................................................................................

You'll save rsoultin even though you just claimed your claim to fame was casing her on why she's mafia... because she types words?
+ Show Spoiler +

[image loading]


He did mention a page-ish back that he would consolidate to lynch non-talkers over talkers.

Or something like that.
Conversion
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
February 07 2018 20:31 GMT
#893
I am back from my meeting. I am glad it was shorter than intended.

I am also happy that we flipped mafia, however I guess I might look bad for waffling at the end. I'm not sure if people pointed that out yet.

I am questioning why HF thinks I am typing like a mafia person. This is the second time he has mentioned it. I am trying out a new play style that does not involve me being a drama queen, maybe that is why? Are you going to set up for my mislynch later on in the game?

I have some notes written based on rsoultin/mderg flip. I will share the relevant one. Not sure how meaningful it is.

+ Show Spoiler [mderg flips scum notes] +

Mderg flips mafia: Now this is the case I am rather interested in. That would mean the nagging feeling I had in my head that he seemed almost eerily similar to his Newbie game means that he was manufacturing his town play. So why not just hammer rsoultin to save himself? This was the weird play... for me, if I am town, I will
rabidly try to save myself (as I did in a game with Koshi when I lynched Chezinu), because the only certainty I have and know is that I am 100% town, and I will avoid town mislynching me at all costs. His play seemed more like I will not save myself.. for some reason. I will need to look into what role he flips to see if the possibility
of saving rsoultin is there, as she can be a more powerful role? Who knows. I'd most likely poke at rayn more here on his thought process on why we shouldn't lynch mderg or prplhz.
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