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On January 20 2018 05:01 darthfoley wrote:
I guess Kelscier gets some credit for asking Mderg about BTDT lynch. Meh
Thanks that really means a lot
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On January 20 2018 04:59 darthfoley wrote:Okay so I looked through Kelscier's filter. Basically. + Show Spoiler +At this point i'd lynch between mderg, maybe df then prplhz,kmatt and btdt need to put more into the thread. Show nested quote +On January 19 2018 20:13 KelsierSC wrote:On January 19 2018 20:00 rsoultin wrote:On January 19 2018 19:49 KelsierSC wrote:
Though I disagree with HF on his damdred read, I do want to see more from damdred this day.
Reading through HF's explanation. I could understand that if you were reading a guy as scummy from before. (due to his df/mcosta read) then with that biased you could see his response as panicked.
I thought about the perspective of if I was scum HF/Rels. I think my initial interpretation was wrong.I don't think scum HF and Rels jump on this case and call it good. Especially Rels , if damdred flips town he looks super shady.
I think if Damdred is town then you just soft defend him , in the way I have done tbh, and then look for some random lynch later on, if damdred is lynched then a town goes down and you look good.
I think Mderg did that and maybe df but i'm not 100%.
with btdt I liked something he did early, mentioning the bad read on hf and he read rsoultin as town so I gave him a few plus points. I didn't like his Mcosta is weird with a massive quote post , i'd need to see more though.
At this point i'd lynch between mderg, maybe df then prplhz,kmatt and btdt need to put more into the thread.
To be fair, I think scumRels would be way more likely to do that if there was an alternative lynch going, which there wasn't. It still felt like a half-assed drive-by shooting but I can't say that it makes him scum. Not feeling a mderg lynch. It's not sparkly but I get a little swimming against the current and a little waffley not sure not sure from his filter that just feels towny to me. Not my strongest read, of course, but I'd rather not lynch him. Meeeh btdt's filter is just so weak for me. Hold on. I already forgot specifics. btdt is weak I would agree. I think df was one of the first people to call him out on that which gives me pause because df is also scummy to me. his post about costa talking to much , I guess his town read of rels makes sense in retrospect if they both think btdt is scummy. but is that enough for a town read...maybe. df twice talked about the damerion/damdred thing, didnt commit to one side and then tried to get an alternate lynch going. First one he said damerion was being too aggressive or confirmation biased and then said btdt was scum. then he said he wasn't sure on damdred/damerion and needed to reread, but costa was scum. basically not committing to anyside and trying to get some alternative lynch going. The costa one especially felt bad. I think df or btdt is scum though. Now that people seem to be warming to the idea of DF/BTDT wagons, mderg is conveniently forgotten even though he doesn't provide any explanation. Like he goes through all this effort to basically summarize my whole filter as some justification to vote me.
That ain't true, there was this post posted before the one you quoted:
On January 19 2018 19:59 KelsierSC wrote:Show nested quote +On January 19 2018 19:51 mderg wrote:On January 19 2018 19:29 KelsierSC wrote:On January 19 2018 18:50 mderg wrote:
Trying to shortly summarize my thoughts on everyone
Twat: probably town
kmatt: no idea
Damerion: don't like his tunneling on damdred, could be scum
btdt: no idea
Mocsta: probably town, conversation with rsoultin looks like town on town argument
Rels: just latches onto the damdred wagon and his work is done
rsoultin: probably town
df: meh
damdred: leaning town
prplhz: no idea
Kelsier: leaning towads town very slightly
Holyflare: I would expect more from town hf but I always have him as scum I don't think a list like this is very good. In reality you have provided yourself a lot of outs to change opinion without putting forward anything new. Can you expand on df and explain why he is meh. The goal of that list was not to put out anything groundbrakingly new. It's a way to summarize and organize my thoughts. Everything df said (except the townread on Rels imo) kind of makes sense. But I had pretty much no idea what he said before going through his filter. So his play feels a bit off despite making logically sound arguments. Ok that makes some sense. Show nested quote +On January 19 2018 19:53 mderg wrote:On January 19 2018 19:49 KelsierSC wrote:
Though I disagree with HF on his damdred read, I do want to see more from damdred this day.
Reading through HF's explanation. I could understand that if you were reading a guy as scummy from before. (due to his df/mcosta read) then with that biased you could see his response as panicked.
I thought about the perspective of if I was scum HF/Rels. I think my initial interpretation was wrong.I don't think scum HF and Rels jump on this case and call it good. Especially Rels , if damdred flips town he looks super shady.
I think if Damdred is town then you just soft defend him , in the way I have done tbh, and then look for some random lynch later on, if damdred is lynched then a town goes down and you look good.
I think Mderg did that and maybe df but i'm not 100%.
with btdt I liked something he did early, mentioning the bad read on hf and he read rsoultin as town so I gave him a few plus points. I didn't like his Mcosta is weird with a massive quote post , i'd need to see more though.
At this point i'd lynch between mderg, maybe df then prplhz,kmatt and btdt need to put more into the thread.
soft defending a townie who's getting lynched is always making you look suspicious. That wouldn't be good scum play. So based on rsoultin and HF's discussion and previous thoughts. You believe that damdred is town and Rels is scum who has just sidled onto the wagon without saying much. Do you think one of HF and damerion is also scum aswell? or both?
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On January 20 2018 04:56 rsoultin wrote:Yeeees. See beetle juice powers! \o/ Weren't you going to, I don't know, play? If you're town (and I still think you are but you're making me doubt in ways I don't like) you're making it hard for me to find a way to not lynch you, you know. I do not make good cases. I just make a good gnat.
Let me make this clear then, it is extremely difficult for my style so early to find meaninful conclusions when so much of the thread is about me.
I still think the game comes down to
DF/moc and then some form of combination afterwards.
I do not believe btdt is scum, his play is to off the cuff and free imo. If I had to lay a idea down thw btdt v damdred wagon is t v t and i wont vote him to save myself.
DF and moc are name dropping each other a bit to create distance but its just shadow games and soft pushes at this point.
Moc vote on me was suoer opportunistic, his vote is over explained and well for just an ok case my damer as he calls it he sure does go in hard.
DF is a little to clean here to me and isnt rwally digging anywhere worthwhile.
RS, Kel, btdt are never scum to me.
After that I really have small inklings, twat doing his vote and never making another contriubtion at this point is head acratching but he could be busy. Same for damer.
HF could go either way and rels.
So eh?
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On January 20 2018 05:00 mderg wrote:Show nested quote +On January 19 2018 23:59 Rels wrote:
It's strong words for what Mocsta did, IE respond for a post. Then the next posts is Mocsta begings making big posts, and DF don't follow The lack of reponse to Mocsta's posts doesn't make sense as either alignment unless it's an unlucky coincidence. Show nested quote +On January 20 2018 00:12 Rels wrote:
oh no thinking of marghell
mderg can be scum as well then  Show nested quote +On January 20 2018 00:27 Rels wrote:On January 20 2018 00:16 rsoultin wrote:On January 20 2018 00:12 Rels wrote:
oh no thinking of marghell
mderg can be scum as well then ??? he's just kinda floating in the thread, and his list post was out of nowhere and the reasonning were pretty vague. So it didn't match my view of him being top-tier scum. Then I checked and he was not the top-tier scum I remembered. But checking his last town game where he got lynched D1 he was also apparently just floating around I'm definitely top tier scum when the stars align every 200 years. I would generally advice against meta reading me, though.
Y'all talking about how I didn't respond to Mocsta's big post after I called him out. I went to bed after I made that post and he responded like an hour later. How is that alignment indicative?
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On January 20 2018 05:03 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On January 20 2018 04:59 darthfoley wrote:Okay so I looked through Kelscier's filter. Basically. + Show Spoiler +At this point i'd lynch between mderg, maybe df then prplhz,kmatt and btdt need to put more into the thread. On January 19 2018 20:13 KelsierSC wrote:On January 19 2018 20:00 rsoultin wrote:On January 19 2018 19:49 KelsierSC wrote:
Though I disagree with HF on his damdred read, I do want to see more from damdred this day.
Reading through HF's explanation. I could understand that if you were reading a guy as scummy from before. (due to his df/mcosta read) then with that biased you could see his response as panicked.
I thought about the perspective of if I was scum HF/Rels. I think my initial interpretation was wrong.I don't think scum HF and Rels jump on this case and call it good. Especially Rels , if damdred flips town he looks super shady.
I think if Damdred is town then you just soft defend him , in the way I have done tbh, and then look for some random lynch later on, if damdred is lynched then a town goes down and you look good.
I think Mderg did that and maybe df but i'm not 100%.
with btdt I liked something he did early, mentioning the bad read on hf and he read rsoultin as town so I gave him a few plus points. I didn't like his Mcosta is weird with a massive quote post , i'd need to see more though.
At this point i'd lynch between mderg, maybe df then prplhz,kmatt and btdt need to put more into the thread.
To be fair, I think scumRels would be way more likely to do that if there was an alternative lynch going, which there wasn't. It still felt like a half-assed drive-by shooting but I can't say that it makes him scum. Not feeling a mderg lynch. It's not sparkly but I get a little swimming against the current and a little waffley not sure not sure from his filter that just feels towny to me. Not my strongest read, of course, but I'd rather not lynch him. Meeeh btdt's filter is just so weak for me. Hold on. I already forgot specifics. btdt is weak I would agree. I think df was one of the first people to call him out on that which gives me pause because df is also scummy to me. his post about costa talking to much , I guess his town read of rels makes sense in retrospect if they both think btdt is scummy. but is that enough for a town read...maybe. df twice talked about the damerion/damdred thing, didnt commit to one side and then tried to get an alternate lynch going. First one he said damerion was being too aggressive or confirmation biased and then said btdt was scum. then he said he wasn't sure on damdred/damerion and needed to reread, but costa was scum. basically not committing to anyside and trying to get some alternative lynch going. The costa one especially felt bad. I think df or btdt is scum though. Now that people seem to be warming to the idea of DF/BTDT wagons, mderg is conveniently forgotten even though he doesn't provide any explanation. Like he goes through all this effort to basically summarize my whole filter as some justification to vote me. That ain't true, there was this post posted before the one you quoted: Show nested quote +On January 19 2018 19:59 KelsierSC wrote:On January 19 2018 19:51 mderg wrote:On January 19 2018 19:29 KelsierSC wrote:On January 19 2018 18:50 mderg wrote:
Trying to shortly summarize my thoughts on everyone
Twat: probably town
kmatt: no idea
Damerion: don't like his tunneling on damdred, could be scum
btdt: no idea
Mocsta: probably town, conversation with rsoultin looks like town on town argument
Rels: just latches onto the damdred wagon and his work is done
rsoultin: probably town
df: meh
damdred: leaning town
prplhz: no idea
Kelsier: leaning towads town very slightly
Holyflare: I would expect more from town hf but I always have him as scum I don't think a list like this is very good. In reality you have provided yourself a lot of outs to change opinion without putting forward anything new. Can you expand on df and explain why he is meh. The goal of that list was not to put out anything groundbrakingly new. It's a way to summarize and organize my thoughts. Everything df said (except the townread on Rels imo) kind of makes sense. But I had pretty much no idea what he said before going through his filter. So his play feels a bit off despite making logically sound arguments. Ok that makes some sense. On January 19 2018 19:53 mderg wrote:On January 19 2018 19:49 KelsierSC wrote:
Though I disagree with HF on his damdred read, I do want to see more from damdred this day.
Reading through HF's explanation. I could understand that if you were reading a guy as scummy from before. (due to his df/mcosta read) then with that biased you could see his response as panicked.
I thought about the perspective of if I was scum HF/Rels. I think my initial interpretation was wrong.I don't think scum HF and Rels jump on this case and call it good. Especially Rels , if damdred flips town he looks super shady.
I think if Damdred is town then you just soft defend him , in the way I have done tbh, and then look for some random lynch later on, if damdred is lynched then a town goes down and you look good.
I think Mderg did that and maybe df but i'm not 100%.
with btdt I liked something he did early, mentioning the bad read on hf and he read rsoultin as town so I gave him a few plus points. I didn't like his Mcosta is weird with a massive quote post , i'd need to see more though.
At this point i'd lynch between mderg, maybe df then prplhz,kmatt and btdt need to put more into the thread.
soft defending a townie who's getting lynched is always making you look suspicious. That wouldn't be good scum play. So based on rsoultin and HF's discussion and previous thoughts. You believe that damdred is town and Rels is scum who has just sidled onto the wagon without saying much. Do you think one of HF and damerion is also scum aswell? or both?
"Ok that makes some sense"
lol
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And there's a mderg!
@df
scummy
null leaning scum
scummy
I don't actually require people to say the word 'scum' to comprehend their words. It's a skill, I know. Funny, but I didn't think that you lacked it.
Nor is his opinion on damdred a hedge in any way, and he clearly favors damerion. So why are you reading something different than me?
Also, you're omitting a key element in your KSC read on mderg narrative 
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On January 20 2018 05:03 Damdred wrote:Show nested quote +On January 20 2018 04:56 rsoultin wrote:On January 20 2018 04:52 Damdred wrote:
*Burp* why have you summined mw Yeeees. See beetle juice powers! \o/ Weren't you going to, I don't know, play? If you're town (and I still think you are but you're making me doubt in ways I don't like) you're making it hard for me to find a way to not lynch you, you know. I do not make good cases. I just make a good gnat. Let me make this clear then, it is extremely difficult for my style so early to find meaninful conclusions when so much of the thread is about me. I still think the game comes down to DF/moc and then some form of combination afterwards. I do not believe btdt is scum, his play is to off the cuff and free imo. If I had to lay a idea down thw btdt v damdred wagon is t v t and i wont vote him to save myself. DF and moc are name dropping each other a bit to create distance but its just shadow games and soft pushes at this point. Moc vote on me was suoer opportunistic, his vote is over explained and well for just an ok case my damer as he calls it he sure does go in hard. DF is a little to clean here to me and isnt rwally digging anywhere worthwhile. RS, Kel, btdt are never scum to me. After that I really have small inklings, twat doing his vote and never making another contriubtion at this point is head acratching but he could be busy. Same for damer. HF could go either way and rels. So eh?
Rels has felt more solid these last few pages.
I'd have to reread the moc case on you, I'm not sure if scum moc needs to go so hard against you because if my memory is right rels,twatty,hf and damerion where already somewhat against you, he probably could have just sheeped some idea right if he wants to bury you or just chill out elsewhere and then if you get lynched its good for him..I still get the impression that he's just a bit of an odd fellow but probably town.
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On January 20 2018 05:03 Damdred wrote:Show nested quote +On January 20 2018 04:56 rsoultin wrote:On January 20 2018 04:52 Damdred wrote:
*Burp* why have you summined mw Yeeees. See beetle juice powers! \o/ Weren't you going to, I don't know, play? If you're town (and I still think you are but you're making me doubt in ways I don't like) you're making it hard for me to find a way to not lynch you, you know. I do not make good cases. I just make a good gnat. Let me make this clear then, it is extremely difficult for my style so early to find meaninful conclusions when so much of the thread is about me. I still think the game comes down to DF/moc and then some form of combination afterwards. I do not believe btdt is scum, his play is to off the cuff and free imo. If I had to lay a idea down thw btdt v damdred wagon is t v t and i wont vote him to save myself. DF and moc are name dropping each other a bit to create distance but its just shadow games and soft pushes at this point. Moc vote on me was suoer opportunistic, his vote is over explained and well for just an ok case my damer as he calls it he sure does go in hard. DF is a little to clean here to me and isnt rwally digging anywhere worthwhile. RS, Kel, btdt are never scum to me. After that I really have small inklings, twat doing his vote and never making another contriubtion at this point is head acratching but he could be busy. Same for damer. HF could go either way and rels. So eh?
Why is Kelscier never scum to you?
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On January 20 2018 05:04 darthfoley wrote:Show nested quote +On January 20 2018 05:00 mderg wrote:On January 19 2018 23:59 Rels wrote:
It's strong words for what Mocsta did, IE respond for a post. Then the next posts is Mocsta begings making big posts, and DF don't follow The lack of reponse to Mocsta's posts doesn't make sense as either alignment unless it's an unlucky coincidence. On January 20 2018 00:12 Rels wrote:
oh no thinking of marghell
mderg can be scum as well then On January 20 2018 00:27 Rels wrote:On January 20 2018 00:16 rsoultin wrote:On January 20 2018 00:12 Rels wrote:
oh no thinking of marghell
mderg can be scum as well then ??? he's just kinda floating in the thread, and his list post was out of nowhere and the reasonning were pretty vague. So it didn't match my view of him being top-tier scum. Then I checked and he was not the top-tier scum I remembered. But checking his last town game where he got lynched D1 he was also apparently just floating around I'm definitely top tier scum when the stars align every 200 years. I would generally advice against meta reading me, though. Y'all talking about how I didn't respond to Mocsta's big post after I called him out. I went to bed after I made that post and he responded like an hour later. How is that alignment indicative?
Fair. I'm more interested in how your reads are developing, and I liked Rels pointing to that as indicative of his alignment more than yours. (Could check the timestamps but it would be dumb to lie so meh).
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I will vote DF then, and I hope people follow me because I feel like BTDT is going to flip town, even if it gets me lynched idc.
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@Damdred I wouldn't lynch costa, I like the idea of a df lynch a lot more now he is made his case against me and called rsoultin scum. just feels like some fake emotion.
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Kels is making insightful points to me, not being lazy and is genedally being town kel.
good tone, good ideas that he lacks as scum as well.
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On January 20 2018 05:03 Damdred wrote:Show nested quote +On January 20 2018 04:56 rsoultin wrote:On January 20 2018 04:52 Damdred wrote:
*Burp* why have you summined mw Yeeees. See beetle juice powers! \o/ Weren't you going to, I don't know, play? If you're town (and I still think you are but you're making me doubt in ways I don't like) you're making it hard for me to find a way to not lynch you, you know. I do not make good cases. I just make a good gnat. Let me make this clear then, it is extremely difficult for my style so early to find meaninful conclusions when so much of the thread is about me. I still think the game comes down to DF/moc and then some form of combination afterwards. I do not believe btdt is scum, his play is to off the cuff and free imo. If I had to lay a idea down thw btdt v damdred wagon is t v t and i wont vote him to save myself. DF and moc are name dropping each other a bit to create distance but its just shadow games and soft pushes at this point. Moc vote on me was suoer opportunistic, his vote is over explained and well for just an ok case my damer as he calls it he sure does go in hard. DF is a little to clean here to me and isnt rwally digging anywhere worthwhile. RS, Kel, btdt are never scum to me. After that I really have small inklings, twat doing his vote and never making another contriubtion at this point is head acratching but he could be busy. Same for damer. HF could go either way and rels. So eh?
Mocsta could reasonably fool me since I don't know him, but I'm not getting a scum vibe from him. Maybe a...damn it I'm forgetting words now...you scumread him so he's scumreading you...vibe.
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On January 20 2018 05:11 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On January 20 2018 05:03 Damdred wrote:On January 20 2018 04:56 rsoultin wrote:On January 20 2018 04:52 Damdred wrote:
*Burp* why have you summined mw Yeeees. See beetle juice powers! \o/ Weren't you going to, I don't know, play? If you're town (and I still think you are but you're making me doubt in ways I don't like) you're making it hard for me to find a way to not lynch you, you know. I do not make good cases. I just make a good gnat. Let me make this clear then, it is extremely difficult for my style so early to find meaninful conclusions when so much of the thread is about me. I still think the game comes down to DF/moc and then some form of combination afterwards. I do not believe btdt is scum, his play is to off the cuff and free imo. If I had to lay a idea down thw btdt v damdred wagon is t v t and i wont vote him to save myself. DF and moc are name dropping each other a bit to create distance but its just shadow games and soft pushes at this point. Moc vote on me was suoer opportunistic, his vote is over explained and well for just an ok case my damer as he calls it he sure does go in hard. DF is a little to clean here to me and isnt rwally digging anywhere worthwhile. RS, Kel, btdt are never scum to me. After that I really have small inklings, twat doing his vote and never making another contriubtion at this point is head acratching but he could be busy. Same for damer. HF could go either way and rels. So eh? Mocsta could reasonably fool me since I don't know him, but I'm not getting a scum vibe from him. Maybe a...damn it I'm forgetting words now...you scumread him so he's scumreading you...vibe.
I am willing to give costa another cycle for us to see, how about doing df with me inatead.
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I'm down with a darth foley lynch.
@df...still want my answers. I dream of lynching scum day 1. If you insist on calling one of the most townread townies in the game scum, have at it, but even if you think I'm scum, if you're town it may help sway others -shrugs-
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##unvote
##vote darthfoley
let's do it.
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I'm not liking that I more and more like how Rels is posting
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On January 20 2018 05:15 mderg wrote:
I'm not liking that I more and more like how Rels is posting
Lol, why? A town Rels is fun.
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I just lookes over rels posting we can be friends today I feel.
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everytime I read that BTDT filter though....like does this guy really get a pass.
I guess in his defence there is less things to dislike than df.
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