[M][N] A Simple Game of Mafia - Page 36

On December 14 2017 04:11 Conversion wrote:


go convince enough people to lynch me just to be wrong then?

On December 13 2017 22:07 Conversion wrote:
there probably is a mafia between koshi/df btw if I get lynched today. I’m leaning toward more Koshi than that and he’s probably just rerolling his playstyle cuz he knows VE/Palmar won’t let himnslide like last game

df is lookin better. I’ll eat a shoe if they both rolled scum again

On December 14 2017 02:42 Conversion wrote:


this is more interesting than my between DF/Koshi read, but idk if mafia!HF would expose himself so much by sheeping onto a town lynch like that. even in my head between DF/Koshi DF is way more likely to flip mafia if I go under the assumption that one person in the "Conv is mafia" case is mafia

can you explain your DF/HF split?

On December 14 2017 03:08 Grackaroni wrote:
Ok I'm out of time and was just barely able to finish reading the thread.

I really don't like that Palmar just implicitly assumed that none of DF/Koshi/Conversion are scum as a way of justifying a scum read on Forumite in the most round about way possible.

I'm surprised that nobody commented on HF's push on LS and that HF is less phased by being ignored than he has been so far.

I think Palmar is a better lynch than Oatsmaster but I don't think Oatsmaster is a bad lynch either. I'm going to leave my vote on Palmar.

On December 14 2017 03:08 Grackaroni wrote:
Ok I'm out of time and was just barely able to finish reading the thread.

I really don't like that Palmar just implicitly assumed that none of DF/Koshi/Conversion are scum as a way of justifying a scum read on Forumite in the most round about way possible.

I'm surprised that nobody commented on HF's push on LS and that HF is less phased by being ignored than he has been so far.

I think Palmar is a better lynch than Oatsmaster but I don't think Oatsmaster is a bad lynch either. I'm going to leave my vote on Palmar.

On December 14 2017 04:20 Oatsmaster wrote:

I don't think koshi or ve is mafia, they are just trying extremely hard to look town.
Which isnt a tell one way or another.

On December 14 2017 04:53 Koshi wrote:
I am playing Heroes. Also voting Palmar I think.
It's not that I don't believe in the Oats lynch. He is a fine lynch.

On December 14 2017 00:44 Palmar wrote:
The case is this:

As I was reading the back and forth and trash talking between conversion, hf, koshi etc, I started wondering "right, so some of them may be mafia, but they all care. If I am mafia, I let this happen but still feel the need to post". So I started thinking about people I remember posting, but don't remember if they said anything of value. I 100% admit that the first person I could think of filling the description of my supposed mafia was forumite. So I decided to read his filter, and that is when I said he's 99% mafia.

The strong theme in forumite's filter is that he says stuff that mostly is just there to be around. It's not particularly investigative or contentious, but it is there. I'm gonna give a bunch of examples:

I already had noticed this post:



the reason it's scummy is because he specifically announces it's not his 1st pick. So any illusion of it actually being a pressure vote or whatever else bullshit you can think of is already shattered. It's completely pointless. In fact, he even apologizes for making this vote when I call him out on it.



Right, you can in theory argue that all this, and every post up to this in his filter is just trolling. The rest of his early filter are mostly random shitty questions with some tiny mechanics or role discussion thrown in. Like while I'm editing this a bit for effect, below is literally everything Forumite contributed to the game early on.












None of this is actually valid scum hunting. None of this seems designed to lead anywhere. There is no follow up, no thread. Just random shitty questions. I kinda remembered this yesterday, so this post here:



which is just a continuation of the same bullshit really struck me.

He continues to sort of mull over the conversion thing which is actually the first thing he kinda follows up on, but again the tone seems super mild and overly diplomatic:

Why, for example, does he repeatedly ask people to explain the case on Conversion or says he doesn't follow it. It's super clear (I think I quoted koshi's point about conversion and called it good yesterday). This is just a result of forumite either not reading the thread, or just posting shit so he can talk about stuff while pretending to know nothing about it so it's not suspicious that he's actually not contributing anything to the discussion at hand.

He does end up making a call on Conversion's alignment, while still inviting more discussion on it without actually pushing his own alternatives all that much.

To summarize, it's the mindset in forumite's posting that makes him mafia:

1) He asks questions with no intention to follow up or investigate the answers.
2) He makes alignment calls with no intention of using that information to move the game in a different direction

It's a rather good case.

On December 14 2017 05:04 Conversion wrote:
I didn't ask you to give me more reasons to called you tunneled as fuck onto me, I asked you to tell me who my scummates were if I flip scum and who is scum team if I flip town

On December 14 2017 04:57 darthfoley wrote:




So I somehow became "way more likely" to flip mafia than Koshi without posting anything between the times of these two posts, after saying "df looking better" than Koshi.

That is some really scummy fucking shit. Also the push back off of Conversion and the fact that Conversion never got more than 3 votes is sus as shit