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Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
October 26 2017 11:45 GMT
#4
/in

corner of shame is tempting
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United States3308 Posts
October 27 2017 15:44 GMT
#18
don't make me scum pls
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United States3308 Posts
October 28 2017 23:20 GMT
#27
On October 29 2017 04:47 ruXxar wrote:
Sure.. hold on while I invite my friends ruxxor and ruxxer


I like ruxxur the best.. invite that one
Conversion
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
October 31 2017 19:11 GMT
#54
On November 01 2017 04:00 ruXxar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2017 02:57 darthfoley wrote:
On October 31 2017 07:31 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Game is full! We'll start in , or an hour later if Rels can't make it.


hype hype hype


I think you're off by a day mate :p


it starts in 2 hours :D no idea why DF's quote didn't capture that

hyPEE
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Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
October 31 2017 21:35 GMT
#65
I'm town

thank you hosts for not making me scum
Conversion
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
October 31 2017 21:53 GMT
#70
On November 01 2017 06:39 happykrogan wrote:
I'm town

thank you hosts for not making me scum


rude. you die first night
Conversion
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
October 31 2017 21:56 GMT
#72
On November 01 2017 06:55 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2017 06:53 Conversion wrote:
On November 01 2017 06:39 happykrogan wrote:
I'm town

thank you hosts for not making me scum


rude. you die first night


how does it feel knowing the person who coppied you gets townread and you get ignored my son?


you die second night
Conversion
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
October 31 2017 22:00 GMT
#76
I don’t hate anyone

I’m gonna get D1 lynched anyways so let’s see how you all play. no afks por favor
Conversion
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
October 31 2017 22:31 GMT
#86
ruxxar scum. dies n1
Conversion
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United States3308 Posts
October 31 2017 22:31 GMT
#87
thank your vig
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Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
October 31 2017 22:38 GMT
#95
On November 01 2017 07:35 ruXxar wrote:
I'm jim raynor btw.


I’m jim raynor actually

scum
Conversion
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
October 31 2017 22:43 GMT
#100
On November 01 2017 07:42 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2017 07:40 darthfoley wrote:
On more serious terms, let's hope that we don't have AFKers this game.

Krogan's combo brrreak thing felt the most forced of any entrance. Except maybe HF


You know I was abour to tr you for your carefree attitude a d then you say something i really disagree with.

I think krogan had third best entrance, hf is meh but meh


who’s ur top 2 entrances
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Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
October 31 2017 22:45 GMT
#104
On November 01 2017 07:44 ShoCkeyy wrote:
lol at this early game posting. Is this the new meta? To just claim something and then hope no one notices you lied?


we’re just ‘avin a blast mate. how are you?
Conversion
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
October 31 2017 22:45 GMT
#105
On November 01 2017 07:44 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2017 07:43 Conversion wrote:
On November 01 2017 07:42 Damdred wrote:
On November 01 2017 07:40 darthfoley wrote:
On more serious terms, let's hope that we don't have AFKers this game.

Krogan's combo brrreak thing felt the most forced of any entrance. Except maybe HF


You know I was abour to tr you for your carefree attitude a d then you say something i really disagree with.

I think krogan had third best entrance, hf is meh but meh


who’s ur top 2 entrances


Obviously me and my boy damerion


lame
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Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
October 31 2017 23:06 GMT
#122
damdred/damerion/ruxxar

ez scum GG
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Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
October 31 2017 23:53 GMT
#146
On November 01 2017 08:34 Damerion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2017 08:28 ruXxar wrote:
On November 01 2017 08:17 Damerion wrote:
On November 01 2017 08:04 ruXxar wrote:
On November 01 2017 08:02 Damerion wrote:
[b]##vote ShoCkeyy[/b

I ask and expect you all to follow me on this.

@Damdred especially you.


Slow down hotshot.
When did you go from being mr waffly scum reader to becoming sherlock holmes?


Did the cohost of my first game forget the resounding hammer I put on the whole scum team?


You have good reads, I'll give you that.
You just gotta work on being more convincing.


No I need name recognition, if I had a larger name associated with me I would be followed much easier.

And if memory serves I did find scum last game a couple of times, just was to afk to oersue those links at the time.

In any case HolyFlare is also coming across disengenous at this point.


nah actually I'm willing to blind follow you 100% after the last 2 games

you're not as good this game though so that's weird. also I never trust HF because he is a "big name" so that's a bad point
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Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
October 31 2017 23:59 GMT
#148
On November 01 2017 08:57 ruXxar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2017 08:53 Conversion wrote:
On November 01 2017 08:34 Damerion wrote:
On November 01 2017 08:28 ruXxar wrote:
On November 01 2017 08:17 Damerion wrote:
On November 01 2017 08:04 ruXxar wrote:
On November 01 2017 08:02 Damerion wrote:
[b]##vote ShoCkeyy[/b

I ask and expect you all to follow me on this.

@Damdred especially you.


Slow down hotshot.
When did you go from being mr waffly scum reader to becoming sherlock holmes?


Did the cohost of my first game forget the resounding hammer I put on the whole scum team?


You have good reads, I'll give you that.
You just gotta work on being more convincing.


No I need name recognition, if I had a larger name associated with me I would be followed much easier.

And if memory serves I did find scum last game a couple of times, just was to afk to oersue those links at the time.

In any case HolyFlare is also coming across disengenous at this point.


nah actually I'm willing to blind follow you 100% after the last 2 games

you're not as good this game though so that's weird.also I never trust HF because he is a "big name" so that's a bad point

What’s that supposed to mean???


oi don't red text me m8

he just seems weird throwing out all these soft reads. his usual play has been slam down hard with a big read that calls out 2/3 or 3/3 scum, but idk. maybe he's trying to be more active b/c he died last game because of it, but I don't like it
Conversion
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
November 01 2017 00:08 GMT
#151
On November 01 2017 09:05 ruXxar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2017 08:59 Conversion wrote:
On November 01 2017 08:57 ruXxar wrote:
On November 01 2017 08:53 Conversion wrote:
On November 01 2017 08:34 Damerion wrote:
On November 01 2017 08:28 ruXxar wrote:
On November 01 2017 08:17 Damerion wrote:
On November 01 2017 08:04 ruXxar wrote:
On November 01 2017 08:02 Damerion wrote:
[b]##vote ShoCkeyy[/b

I ask and expect you all to follow me on this.

@Damdred especially you.


Slow down hotshot.
When did you go from being mr waffly scum reader to becoming sherlock holmes?


Did the cohost of my first game forget the resounding hammer I put on the whole scum team?


You have good reads, I'll give you that.
You just gotta work on being more convincing.


No I need name recognition, if I had a larger name associated with me I would be followed much easier.

And if memory serves I did find scum last game a couple of times, just was to afk to oersue those links at the time.

In any case HolyFlare is also coming across disengenous at this point.


nah actually I'm willing to blind follow you 100% after the last 2 games

you're not as good this game though so that's weird.also I never trust HF because he is a "big name" so that's a bad point

What’s that supposed to mean???


oi don't red text me m8

he just seems weird throwing out all these soft reads. his usual play has been slam down hard with a big read that calls out 2/3 or 3/3 scum, but idk. maybe he's trying to be more active b/c he died last game because of it, but I don't like it


You’re saying he’s not as good when no one has flipped yet. It doesn’t make sense in the context you’re trying to appropriate to him.

You’re trying to measure his “good play” based on his posts rather than the result of his reads.

If his previous games reads had all been wrong, then you wouldn’t be calling his big read posts good.

Like.. I don’t see where you’re coming from.


it's what HF said before, why change up your playstyle when nothing was wrong with it to begin with? the only reason I can think of is he wants to avoid being lynched b/c of activity again, so he tries to throw out soft reads by looking active. I don't like that

if his big read posts in the previous games were off, then I can see why he's trying to change his playstyle

I don't think I'm being unclear, and have no idea why you're nitpicking at the point, so make that two of us that don't understand each other
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Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
November 01 2017 00:20 GMT
#154
sigh I always have to filter meta for people

so annoying
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Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
November 01 2017 00:23 GMT
#156
On October 15 2017 00:45 Holyflare wrote:
You might say that "oh hf but he already said he's finding town this game instead of looking for scummy things that's why it's different!" but without talking about ongoing games he did very well with the previous strategy so I don't see a need to change it up at all.


I'm not putting words in HF's mouth-- he has like 2 posts so far, why did you think I was talking about this game
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Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
November 01 2017 00:24 GMT
#157
2nd, "above 50% mafia" and pressuring by votes is by no means a hard read in my mind. you and damdred can think that's not a soft read, but going by this guy's previous play I don't think by any means that's a hard read

to put it in comparative terms, that'd be a hard read from you since you don't push anything ever

but w/e

I'm not gonna sit here and argue and get called scum for doing so, so I'm moving on
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Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
November 01 2017 00:26 GMT
#159
On November 01 2017 09:25 Holyflare wrote:
That's a quote from last game
...
Where he was town?


.. and? your line of thinking was that he was scum from it the entire god damn game?

lol
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Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
November 01 2017 00:27 GMT
#161
go lynch me thanks

bye everyone
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Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
November 01 2017 00:28 GMT
#162
I'm seriously getting grilled for sharing my thoughts, and none of you have the balls to put votes on anyone else besides HF

fun game
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Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
November 01 2017 00:29 GMT
#164
On November 01 2017 09:27 ruXxar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2017 09:23 Conversion wrote:
On October 15 2017 00:45 Holyflare wrote:
You might say that "oh hf but he already said he's finding town this game instead of looking for scummy things that's why it's different!" but without talking about ongoing games he did very well with the previous strategy so I don't see a need to change it up at all.


I'm not putting words in HF's mouth-- he has like 2 posts so far, why did you think I was talking about this game


You’re gonna quote a post that’s half a month?
Get out of here.


and you are doing nothing. do you think I'm scum for my "slips"/mistakes?

so put your vote on me

put your vote where your mouth is, otherwise gtfo and do something productive
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Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
November 01 2017 00:30 GMT
#165
On November 01 2017 09:29 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2017 09:26 Conversion wrote:
On November 01 2017 09:25 Holyflare wrote:
That's a quote from last game
...
Where he was town?


.. and? your line of thinking was that he was scum from it the entire god damn game?

lol


Yes, but it was wrong because he was town AND changing his play style. Now you are suggesting he is mafia for changing his play style and saying it's scummy for the reasons in my quote that were wrong.


I don't like it != he is mafia

??????
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Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
November 01 2017 00:31 GMT
#166
On November 01 2017 08:52 ruXxar wrote:
What I’m trying to get at is if this is a one time thing or if this is the new confident you.

I’ll admit im a bit excited by the prospect.


so ruxxar can post something that's useless like this, but the moment I say I don't like someone's playstyle b/c it rubs me the wrong way I get slammed on

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Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
November 01 2017 00:33 GMT
#168
On November 01 2017 09:31 Holyflare wrote:
So your read is entirely irrelevant but you've been defending it for no reason? Why bother defending the notion that his play style has changed if it means nothing to you??


I'm defending it because it's completely inane to debate something so irrelevant and it's mind boggling that any of you think this is productive
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Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
November 01 2017 00:33 GMT
#170
but you know what you're right. why do I care so much I bye bye
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Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
November 01 2017 01:09 GMT
#176
I act like this every game, for your info since you shouldn't have to meta dig

I already started the train on me, so go vote me off and policy lynch me for being unfun and toxic
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Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
November 01 2017 01:20 GMT
#181
On November 01 2017 10:16 darthfoley wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2017 09:28 Conversion wrote:
I'm seriously getting grilled for sharing my thoughts, and none of you have the balls to put votes on anyone else besides HF

fun game


Stop plz. It's been like 3 hours. You don't have to vote in the first X minutes


ye ye my bad. just gets super annoying getting grilled for shit when I just post things without thinking, so I'm just gonna stop posting as much and getting mad. bad habit

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Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
November 01 2017 01:47 GMT
#194
On November 01 2017 10:24 Tictock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2017 08:04 ruXxar wrote:
On November 01 2017 08:02 Damerion wrote:
##vote ShoCkeyy[/b

I ask and expect you all to follow me on this.

@Damdred especially you.


Slow down hotshot.
When did you go from being mr waffly scum reader to becoming sherlock holmes?


From what I've read/heard Damer has pretty much been Sherlock Holmes last few games.

Show nested quote +
[B]On November 01 2017 08:06 Conversion wrote:
damdred/damerion/ruxxar

ez scum GG


Eww, I take back my townlean.


I like your string of posts, but I find it amusing that you find a post that's clearly a joke in a string of loose/jokey posts I have as the reason you take away your townlean on me. Seems a little forced
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Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
November 01 2017 02:08 GMT
#201
On November 01 2017 10:52 Tictock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2017 10:47 Conversion wrote:
On November 01 2017 10:24 Tictock wrote:
On November 01 2017 08:04 ruXxar wrote:
On November 01 2017 08:02 Damerion wrote:
##vote ShoCkeyy[/b

I ask and expect you all to follow me on this.

@Damdred especially you.


Slow down hotshot.
When did you go from being mr waffly scum reader to becoming sherlock holmes?


From what I've read/heard Damer has pretty much been Sherlock Holmes last few games.

[B]On November 01 2017 08:06 Conversion wrote:
damdred/damerion/ruxxar

ez scum GG


Eww, I take back my townlean.


I like your string of posts, but I find it amusing that you find a post that's clearly a joke in a string of loose/jokey posts I have as the reason you take away your townlean on me. Seems a little forced


It was a bad joke.

You are in pretty solid neutral territory for me atm. I can see your frustration coming from either alignment right now.

What do you make of HF voting Damer, the pressuring you for also thinking Damer might be mafia?


That's a pretty terrible reason to un-townread someone, because you think it's a bad joke, considering one of your town reads thought it was an obvious joke. That's all. You could have reserved judgment until I was acting like a child to unlean yourself as town, as that's not a very good town mentality to just throw shit and be mad.

I think HF voting Damer is pretty hilarious, since he wanted to call me out on being wrong and hopping on ruxxar's case on me, even though his entire case on Damerion is basically "I don't like your overzealousness." No depth, just that and a vote.

No real thought, however, unless he tunnels onto him again and fails, again, like he was so eager to mention earlier on when trying to make me look bad. Too little information to do much from it
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Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
November 01 2017 02:10 GMT
#203
On November 01 2017 11:09 happykrogan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2017 10:55 Tictock wrote:
And I'm caught up.

I dislike Shokey calling out people who haven't posted yet this early in the game.

Also people should talk about this:
What do you make of HF voting Damer, the pressuring you for also thinking Damer might be mafia?


HF wasn't pressuring conv for thinking damer might be mafia. He pressured him because of the reasons he gave for disliking him weren't good.


and you haven't followed up with anything, either. What's your opinion on the thread so far? Am I scummy for acting similarly to my last game? What about Shockey? Is he clear lynch bait, or is he mafia? What's your opinion on the interactions between me, rux, and HF? What's your opinion on TicTock's string of posts, and the conclusion he comes from it?
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Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
November 01 2017 02:10 GMT
#205
On November 01 2017 11:10 Conversion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2017 11:09 happykrogan wrote:
On November 01 2017 10:55 Tictock wrote:
And I'm caught up.

I dislike Shokey calling out people who haven't posted yet this early in the game.

Also people should talk about this:
What do you make of HF voting Damer, the pressuring you for also thinking Damer might be mafia?


HF wasn't pressuring conv for thinking damer might be mafia. He pressured him because of the reasons he gave for disliking him weren't good.


and you haven't followed up with anything. What's your opinion on the thread so far? Am I scummy for acting similarly to my last game? What about Shockey? Is he clear lynch bait, or is he mafia? What's your opinion on the interactions between me, rux, and HF? What's your opinion on TicTock's string of posts, and the conclusion he comes from it?


EBWOP
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Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
November 01 2017 02:32 GMT
#219
On November 01 2017 11:27 happykrogan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2017 11:24 happykrogan wrote:
On November 01 2017 11:10 Conversion wrote:
On November 01 2017 11:09 happykrogan wrote:
On November 01 2017 10:55 Tictock wrote:
And I'm caught up.

I dislike Shokey calling out people who haven't posted yet this early in the game.

Also people should talk about this:
What do you make of HF voting Damer, the pressuring you for also thinking Damer might be mafia?


HF wasn't pressuring conv for thinking damer might be mafia. He pressured him because of the reasons he gave for disliking him weren't good.


and you haven't followed up with anything, either. What's your opinion on the thread so far? Am I scummy for acting similarly to my last game? What about Shockey? Is he clear lynch bait, or is he mafia? What's your opinion on the interactions between me, rux, and HF? What's your opinion on TicTock's string of posts, and the conclusion he comes from it?


true

Well I think your reasoning for disliking damerion seemed pretty forced. Like if you had to think of something because you got asked.

To the other things:
If I don't say anything about other things it usally means I have no opinon on them. I'm newbie so it is still hard for me to figure out how I interpret posts and I prefer to wait until more is said before I give hasty reads I change anyways.


So yes you are scummy.


Fair. Hope that changes over the course of the game, b/c I'm not scum but I can see where you're coming from I guess.

On November 01 2017 07:44 ShoCkeyy wrote:
lol at this early game posting. Is this the new meta? To just claim something and then hope no one notices you lied?


I don't really like this entrance, and I don't really like his last post of "let's just wait for AFKers to come in." you shouldn't be sitting around twiddling your thumbs and waiting for people to not be AFK. it's awful behavior, and there was more than enough content to push some buttons/ask questions and agendas

no bueno
Conversion
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
November 01 2017 02:39 GMT
#221
On November 01 2017 11:32 Conversion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2017 11:27 happykrogan wrote:
On November 01 2017 11:24 happykrogan wrote:
On November 01 2017 11:10 Conversion wrote:
On November 01 2017 11:09 happykrogan wrote:
On November 01 2017 10:55 Tictock wrote:
And I'm caught up.

I dislike Shokey calling out people who haven't posted yet this early in the game.

Also people should talk about this:
What do you make of HF voting Damer, the pressuring you for also thinking Damer might be mafia?


HF wasn't pressuring conv for thinking damer might be mafia. He pressured him because of the reasons he gave for disliking him weren't good.


and you haven't followed up with anything, either. What's your opinion on the thread so far? Am I scummy for acting similarly to my last game? What about Shockey? Is he clear lynch bait, or is he mafia? What's your opinion on the interactions between me, rux, and HF? What's your opinion on TicTock's string of posts, and the conclusion he comes from it?


true

Well I think your reasoning for disliking damerion seemed pretty forced. Like if you had to think of something because you got asked.

To the other things:
If I don't say anything about other things it usally means I have no opinon on them. I'm newbie so it is still hard for me to figure out how I interpret posts and I prefer to wait until more is said before I give hasty reads I change anyways.


So yes you are scummy.


Fair. Hope that changes over the course of the game, b/c I'm not scum but I can see where you're coming from I guess.

Show nested quote +
On November 01 2017 07:44 ShoCkeyy wrote:
lol at this early game posting. Is this the new meta? To just claim something and then hope no one notices you lied?


I don't really like this entrance, and I don't really like his last post of "let's just wait for AFKers to come in." you shouldn't be sitting around twiddling your thumbs and waiting for people to not be AFK. it's awful behavior, and there was more than enough content to push some buttons/ask questions and agendas

no bueno


although @krogan I hope this is not the attitude you're going to carry forward for the entirety of the game, b/c it's pretty dangerous for town (given that there are always a couple that AFK most of the game, or make low effort posts) to only contribute small amounts. please generate content where and when you can rather than sitting passively.
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Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
November 01 2017 02:41 GMT
#223
On November 01 2017 11:39 ShoCkeyy wrote:
I mean the game just started, there is nothing to really post about other than Conversion getting triggered about being "grilled"... I also posted the list because I mentioned it's too early to even try to vote because these "list" haven't posted yet.

I haven't really played with any of you other than Holy, Damred, Vivax, and what may be Oatsmaster (but I don't recall). So I'm still just poking around and seeing what comes out of what. I don't mind taking the fall for now until some one slips, cause it's what I usually do. So far those who are "suspicious" of me, one of them have a good chance at being scum


I just pointed your entrance out b/c it's like Tictock randomly de-towning me in his list for not seeing obvious joke posts.. except you applied that to a broader audience instead of just me. Seemed like a lazy, forced comment about a bunch of fluff that came out within the first hour of the game
Conversion
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November 01 2017 02:43 GMT
#224
On November 01 2017 11:39 ShoCkeyy wrote:
I mean the game just started, there is nothing to really post about other than Conversion getting triggered about being "grilled"... I also posted the list because I mentioned it's too early to even try to vote because these "list" haven't posted yet.

I haven't really played with any of you other than Holy, Damred, Vivax, and what may be Oatsmaster (but I don't recall). So I'm still just poking around and seeing what comes out of what. I don't mind taking the fall for now until some one slips, cause it's what I usually do. So far those who are "suspicious" of me, one of them have a good chance at being scum


So what are your thoughts on me getting triggered?

I especially liked DF's posts on Ruxx and his response to being questioned. What's your thoughts on that?
Conversion
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November 01 2017 12:31 GMT
#273
On November 01 2017 13:32 Oatsmaster wrote:
Man ok so I reread the conversion and rux/HF thing and conversion looks really bad for not saying that he's wrong and instead doubling down and becoming angry


I always double down and get angry. check how toxic I was innms paint off, and I was town then
Conversion
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November 01 2017 12:31 GMT
#274
On November 01 2017 19:34 happykrogan wrote:
Actulally I think df acts more like oats last game than oats himself


explain this
Conversion
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November 01 2017 12:32 GMT
#275
On November 01 2017 20:03 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2017 14:55 Oatsmaster wrote:
On November 01 2017 13:49 ShoCkeyy wrote:


I mean at least he posted. He could of easily not post and you would of still called it lame. Usually negative connotations like that give off a scummy vibe as well so we can do less of.

what are you saying here?
That darth is calling me scum and we could do less of that?
or that darth calling me scum is scummy and we could do less of that?


Did you read what I even posted? Wtf are you going on about? I wasn't even talking to you....


are you saying df is not scum for posting?? I’m confused as well
Conversion
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November 01 2017 12:34 GMT
#276
oats and df are town to me at this exact moment in time
Conversion
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November 01 2017 13:25 GMT
#285
On November 01 2017 22:04 ruXxar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2017 09:33 Conversion wrote:
On November 01 2017 09:31 Holyflare wrote:
So your read is entirely irrelevant but you've been defending it for no reason? Why bother defending the notion that his play style has changed if it means nothing to you??


I'm defending it because it's completely inane to debate something so irrelevant and it's mind boggling that any of you think this is productive


I'm voting conversion until he admits his point about HF was wrong and that defending it was stupid. No hard feelings.


that’s fine. your stubbornness will get town lynched, but it’s only D1
Conversion
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November 01 2017 13:30 GMT
#287
wow your landlord is a dick.. sorry to hear that and hope it gets sorted
Conversion
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November 01 2017 13:36 GMT
#288
the problem I have with DF is attacking anyone possible is that he could have just saved himself the effort and pushed me exactly how he pushed me last game and most likely started a wagon. my play hasn’t differed too wildly (as pointed out by krogan), so why would he waste time throwing shade at other people when he has two very good lynch targets he can focus on (me/shockey)
Conversion
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November 01 2017 13:37 GMT
#289
On November 01 2017 22:36 Conversion wrote:
the problemI have with the scumread of “DF is attacking anyone possible” is that he could have just saved himself the effort and pushed me exactly how he pushed me last game and most likely started a wagon. my play hasn’t differed too wildly (as pointed out by krogan), so why would he waste time throwing shade at other people when he has two very good lynch targets he can focus on (me/shockey)


EBWOP
Conversion
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November 01 2017 13:58 GMT
#292
I think that's a little far fetched though? People push hard on town all the time-- hell even I've done it in the past for town acting scummy

I'm just saying people push hard on town all the time b/c they look scummy, and I don't think it's a good argument. Although it does bother me a bit that he decided to go for low hanging fruit (people posting recently) instead of zoning in on someone (Like he did with scum me last game).
Conversion
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November 01 2017 13:59 GMT
#293
On November 01 2017 22:55 happykrogan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2017 22:37 Conversion wrote:
On November 01 2017 22:36 Conversion wrote:
the problemI have with the scumread of “DF is attacking anyone possible” is that he could have just saved himself the effort and pushed me exactly how he pushed me last game and most likely started a wagon. my play hasn’t differed too wildly (as pointed out by krogan), so why would he waste time throwing shade at other people when he has two very good lynch targets he can focus on (me/shockey)


EBWOP


The best explanation I can think of right now is that he doesn't want to follow thread sentiment because it could cause problems later in the game.


The thing is, Shockey is the thread sentiment right now, I am not. People have me at a lazy null b/c they don't want to revisit my filter due to time or such, so it'd be a pretty safe push as a mafia. If I flip town, he could have said, "Well he was acting really scummy" or "I didn't like his tantrum/outburst" and no one would bat an eye until end game, really
Conversion
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November 01 2017 14:39 GMT
#303
On November 01 2017 23:09 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2017 22:59 Conversion wrote:
On November 01 2017 22:55 happykrogan wrote:
On November 01 2017 22:37 Conversion wrote:
On November 01 2017 22:36 Conversion wrote:
the problemI have with the scumread of “DF is attacking anyone possible” is that he could have just saved himself the effort and pushed me exactly how he pushed me last game and most likely started a wagon. my play hasn’t differed too wildly (as pointed out by krogan), so why would he waste time throwing shade at other people when he has two very good lynch targets he can focus on (me/shockey)


EBWOP


The best explanation I can think of right now is that he doesn't want to follow thread sentiment because it could cause problems later in the game.


The thing is, Shockey is the thread sentiment right now, I am not. People have me at a lazy null b/c they don't want to revisit my filter due to time or such, so it'd be a pretty safe push as a mafia. If I flip town, he could have said, "Well he was acting really scummy" or "I didn't like his tantrum/outburst" and no one would bat an eye until end game, really


Says the guy that got triggered lol


that was a useful post. thanks for your 10/10 input. you are the thread sentiment right now. no one likes you, and you have 2 votes on you.

if you don't like facts, then get the fuck out of my face. thanks
Conversion
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November 01 2017 14:40 GMT
#304
On November 01 2017 23:25 ruXxar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2017 22:59 Conversion wrote:
On November 01 2017 22:55 happykrogan wrote:
On November 01 2017 22:37 Conversion wrote:
On November 01 2017 22:36 Conversion wrote:
the problemI have with the scumread of “DF is attacking anyone possible” is that he could have just saved himself the effort and pushed me exactly how he pushed me last game and most likely started a wagon. my play hasn’t differed too wildly (as pointed out by krogan), so why would he waste time throwing shade at other people when he has two very good lynch targets he can focus on (me/shockey)


EBWOP


The best explanation I can think of right now is that he doesn't want to follow thread sentiment because it could cause problems later in the game.


The thing is, Shockey is the thread sentiment right now, I am not. People have me at a lazy null b/c they don't want to revisit my filter due to time or such, so it'd be a pretty safe push as a mafia. If I flip town, he could have said, "Well he was acting really scummy" or "I didn't like his tantrum/outburst" and no one would bat an eye until end game, really


Why are you defending DF so hard anyway?
What’s in it for you?


I'm not defending DF I'm trying to explain that I don't understand/agree with you and krogan's reasons, so I'm asking questions
Conversion
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November 01 2017 14:44 GMT
#306
On November 01 2017 23:07 happykrogan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2017 22:59 Conversion wrote:
On November 01 2017 22:55 happykrogan wrote:
On November 01 2017 22:37 Conversion wrote:
On November 01 2017 22:36 Conversion wrote:
the problemI have with the scumread of “DF is attacking anyone possible” is that he could have just saved himself the effort and pushed me exactly how he pushed me last game and most likely started a wagon. my play hasn’t differed too wildly (as pointed out by krogan), so why would he waste time throwing shade at other people when he has two very good lynch targets he can focus on (me/shockey)


EBWOP


The best explanation I can think of right now is that he doesn't want to follow thread sentiment because it could cause problems later in the game.


The thing is, Shockey is the thread sentiment right now, I am not. People have me at a lazy null b/c they don't want to revisit my filter due to time or such, so it'd be a pretty safe push as a mafia. If I flip town, he could have said, "Well he was acting really scummy" or "I didn't like his tantrum/outburst" and no one would bat an eye until end game, really


I think there are enough points on you that one could say he jumped on an easy lynch.

Another possibility is of course that you are partners but I think he would bus you at least a little bit then.


Fair point. We are definitely not partners, because I am 1000% town. I read my PM diligently and saw green
Conversion
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November 01 2017 14:52 GMT
#309
On November 01 2017 23:51 Damdred wrote:
If there is someone I dont like, df put together a string of posts that I just didnt feel good about at points.

I do think that the auicidal nature that conversion is approaching every conversation right now hes probably just going to be town.

Like rayn and I had this talk maybe a year ago? there is this point where you just basically tell town to go fuck thwmselves and it comes off as town.

and conversion is coming off that way to me.

But I got way off track with that post meh


ya I'm trying to change that. sorry dad, I'll be better
Conversion
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November 01 2017 15:03 GMT
#311
On November 01 2017 13:05 darthfoley wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2017 12:56 Oatsmaster wrote:
On November 01 2017 07:53 Damerion wrote:
Shockey has the worst entrance tone wise, he complains on what reads llike a thread that is having fun in the early going (to me reads like totally town uo to that point).

He then makes another post about hoping he has more posts to work with when he geta back without adding to the game himself.

I am above 50% that he is scum at this point.

I am 100% you are scum
##vote dam


oh hey look, it's the guy that did the same shit last game when he was scum


On November 01 2017 13:07 darthfoley wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2017 13:05 Oatsmaster wrote:
On November 01 2017 11:10 darthfoley wrote:
On November 01 2017 08:49 ruXxar wrote:
On November 01 2017 08:34 Damerion wrote:
On November 01 2017 08:28 ruXxar wrote:
On November 01 2017 08:17 Damerion wrote:
On November 01 2017 08:04 ruXxar wrote:
On November 01 2017 08:02 Damerion wrote:
##vote ShoCkeyy[/b

I ask and expect you all to follow me on this.

@Damdred especially you.


Slow down hotshot.
When did you go from being mr waffly scum reader to becoming sherlock holmes?


Did the cohost of my first game forget the resounding hammer I put on the whole scum team?


You have good reads, I'll give you that.
You just gotta work on being more convincing.


No I need name recognition, if I had a larger name associated with me I would be followed much easier.

And if memory serves I did find scum last game a couple of times, just was to afk to oersue those links at the time.

In any case HolyFlare is also coming across disengenous at this point.


Name recognition help for sure, but it’s also about how you present yourself and your arguments.

Perfect example is Lonelyclock last game. A newbie, but very solid town-read with a lot of credibility.
Someone presenting themselves like that pushes a lot of weight around.

Don’t get me wrong, I like your more confident approach, but it’s throwing me off because it’s so different from previous games, and it’s also a bit too much over the top and appears a bit forced.


I dislike ruxxar's early game filter. Super fluff with no substance. Yea, sure, lots of people are posting fluff kinda. But ruxxar's gives me the vibes of feigning activity to seem interested. It's pretty easy to do early game especially, when people are dicking about.

Besides that, I have no idea why he feels the need to dictate how Damerion votes, the aggressiveness of his vote, and the subsequent commentary

Let me break down the bolded sentence for you
1) "Don't get me wrong" = apologetic, not trying to tread on anyone's toes, like scumversion last game
2) "I like your more confident approach" implies a town lean of some sort, with buddy potential
3) So he likes the confident approach, BUT it's throwing him off because it's so different from last game. So you like it... but it's throwing you off?
4) It's also "a bit too much over the top and feels forced" implying it's scummy.

So to conclude, Ruxxar likes Damerion's aggressive and confident play even though it's throwing him off but it's over the top and feels forced. So why do you like the approach if you are going to call it scummy one line later? This is a whole lot of nothing burger

You are a whole lotta nothing burger.
What are you eving doing with this post.


Explaining why ruxxar's post is lame as hell and non-committal to the utmost. It's rather obvious what I was doing. Take your attitude elsewhere


On November 01 2017 13:09 darthfoley wrote:
On November 01 2017 13:07 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2017 13:05 darthfoley wrote:
On November 01 2017 12:56 Oatsmaster wrote:
On November 01 2017 07:53 Damerion wrote:
Shockey has the worst entrance tone wise, he complains on what reads llike a thread that is having fun in the early going (to me reads like totally town uo to that point).

He then makes another post about hoping he has more posts to work with when he geta back without adding to the game himself.

I am above 50% that he is scum at this point.

I am 100% you are scum
##vote dam


oh hey look, it's the guy that did the same shit last game when he was scum

Oh hey look, that's meta read off literally one post and literally not looking at my other games, just casually throwing shade. Same with rux.


Why would I look at your other games based off of one post? You're mighty defensive lol. Yea, i'm casually throwing shade. Because you did the same over-aggressive "i'm gonna be a dick" D1 strategy last game. This is mafia. People throw shade. Get over it


Looking back and rereading, these are the string of posts I don't like from DF. Instantly gets defensive from Oats (I think he was being way less aggressive this game than last one, he was just calling people shit left and right last one), and then tries to make it sound like Oats is defensive when he is (Oats initiated the conversation)

[B]On November 01 2017 13:19 darthfoley wrote:
Fwiw, Conversion could definitely be a salty 2x scum roller who is sick of being pressured D1. I'm too tired to look over his filter tonight, but his hissy fit was alarming.

I don't spend my time piling on people 3 hours into a game. There are other avenues to be explored like you, and ruxxar! And maybe HF


And this makes it seem like if he suddenly switches his scum read/vote to me, it gives him an easy out from backing off Oats

I think I see where you guys are coming from
Conversion
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November 01 2017 15:07 GMT
#312
On November 01 2017 23:39 Conversion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2017 23:09 ShoCkeyy wrote:
On November 01 2017 22:59 Conversion wrote:
On November 01 2017 22:55 happykrogan wrote:
On November 01 2017 22:37 Conversion wrote:
On November 01 2017 22:36 Conversion wrote:
the problemI have with the scumread of “DF is attacking anyone possible” is that he could have just saved himself the effort and pushed me exactly how he pushed me last game and most likely started a wagon. my play hasn’t differed too wildly (as pointed out by krogan), so why would he waste time throwing shade at other people when he has two very good lynch targets he can focus on (me/shockey)


EBWOP


The best explanation I can think of right now is that he doesn't want to follow thread sentiment because it could cause problems later in the game.


The thing is, Shockey is the thread sentiment right now, I am not. People have me at a lazy null b/c they don't want to revisit my filter due to time or such, so it'd be a pretty safe push as a mafia. If I flip town, he could have said, "Well he was acting really scummy" or "I didn't like his tantrum/outburst" and no one would bat an eye until end game, really


Says the guy that got triggered lol


that was a useful post. thanks for your 10/10 input. you are the thread sentiment right now. no one likes you, and you have 2 votes on you.

if you don't like facts, then get the fuck out of my face. thanks


In all seriousness and not being a dick-ness, this is an awful post on your end and doesn't help me townread you any more. What about that post was offensive that you had to make a snide remark? Do you disagree that the general sentiment right now is that your entrance/defense was not good?

Conversion
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November 01 2017 15:56 GMT
#318
On November 02 2017 00:55 ShoCkeyy wrote:
If you look at Damerion's filter, it shows he litterally tried to start a bandwagon on me:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/528031-heroes-of-the-storm-mafia?user=Damerion

then just disappeared, now I have conversion attacking me trying to make a play between me and him, having you all try and choose between us lol. It's just quite funny.


I'm literally asking you what the point of your post was, and you're ignoring me and telling me I'm trying to make a play between Damerion. It'd be nice if you didn't ignore my question
Conversion
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November 01 2017 16:00 GMT
#319
Also, if I was trying to "make a play" between Damerion why would I bother calling out the fact that I don't like his play, get called out for it by two different people, and get pissed when it doesn't work? That doesn't look good for a Damerion/Conversion scum team at all.
Conversion
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November 01 2017 16:08 GMT
#321
On November 02 2017 01:00 Conversion wrote:
Also, if I was trying to "make a play" between Damerion why would I bother calling out the fact that I don't like his play, get called out for it by two different people, and get pissed when it doesn't work? That doesn't look good for a Damerion/Conversion scum team at all.


Wait, I misread your post. You're saying I'm trying to make a play between YOU and me. Sorry.
Conversion
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November 01 2017 16:14 GMT
#323
On November 02 2017 01:11 ShoCkeyy wrote:
I'm not answering because it's my entrance, what do you think?.... Like it's a bait question to try and "analyze" my own post, when I don't need to.


In addendum to my previous post, you don't make sense anyways. Why am I trying to make a play between you and me? I have stated and literally am stating that the two easiest lynches are you and me, which you keep dodging for some reason.

You're an easy lynch because 2 votes are on you, your entrance is bad, and your subsequent posts are bad.

I'm an easy lynch because outbursts are a big no no and I was being toxic and yelling and hurling shit everywhere.

You have given me no real answer, you keep sidestepping my questions for no real good reason. Which is kind of funny that you can't understand what I'm asking you to do, since you seem to be above clarifying your stance earlier since "people should understand if they read"

Perhaps you should try reading and stop sidestepping
Conversion
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United States3308 Posts
November 01 2017 16:14 GMT
#324
I'm voting ShoCkeyy until he stops dodging me for whatever reason.
Conversion
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November 01 2017 16:24 GMT
#325
On November 01 2017 22:59 Conversion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2017 22:55 happykrogan wrote:
On November 01 2017 22:37 Conversion wrote:
On November 01 2017 22:36 Conversion wrote:
the problemI have with the scumread of “DF is attacking anyone possible” is that he could have just saved himself the effort and pushed me exactly how he pushed me last game and most likely started a wagon. my play hasn’t differed too wildly (as pointed out by krogan), so why would he waste time throwing shade at other people when he has two very good lynch targets he can focus on (me/shockey)


EBWOP


The best explanation I can think of right now is that he doesn't want to follow thread sentiment because it could cause problems later in the game.


The thing is, Shockey is the thread sentiment right now, I am not. People have me at a lazy null b/c they don't want to revisit my filter due to time or such, so it'd be a pretty safe push as a mafia. If I flip town, he could have said, "Well he was acting really scummy" or "I didn't like his tantrum/outburst" and no one would bat an eye until end game, really


Here, I'll make it easy for you.

How is this quote in any relevant way making people decide between you are me? I'm trying to explain to someone why I'm not that bad of a lynch to push to question happykrogan and ruxxar's point on DF's posts. I'm actually confused as to how you took the context of this post, and are calling it an attempt to make a play between you and me.

Also, what was the point of your inane call out that I got triggered? Is this because you somehow mistakenly are believing that the context of which I made this post is an attempt to make people lynch you over me?
Conversion
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November 01 2017 16:25 GMT
#326
On November 02 2017 01:24 Conversion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2017 22:59 Conversion wrote:
On November 01 2017 22:55 happykrogan wrote:
On November 01 2017 22:37 Conversion wrote:
On November 01 2017 22:36 Conversion wrote:
the problemI have with the scumread of “DF is attacking anyone possible” is that he could have just saved himself the effort and pushed me exactly how he pushed me last game and most likely started a wagon. my play hasn’t differed too wildly (as pointed out by krogan), so why would he waste time throwing shade at other people when he has two very good lynch targets he can focus on (me/shockey)


EBWOP


The best explanation I can think of right now is that he doesn't want to follow thread sentiment because it could cause problems later in the game.


The thing is, Shockey is the thread sentiment right now, I am not. People have me at a lazy null b/c they don't want to revisit my filter due to time or such, so it'd be a pretty safe push as a mafia. If I flip town, he could have said, "Well he was acting really scummy" or "I didn't like his tantrum/outburst" and no one would bat an eye until end game, really


Here, I'll make it easy for you.

How is this quote in any relevant way making people decide between you and me? I'm trying to explain to someone why I'm not that bad of a lynch to push to question happykrogan and ruxxar's point on DF's posts. I'm actually confused as to how you took the context of this post, and are calling it an attempt to make a play between you and me.

Also, what was the point of your inane call out that I got triggered? Is this because you somehow mistakenly are believing that the context of which I made this post is an attempt to make people lynch you over me?


EBWOP for grammar
Conversion
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November 01 2017 16:43 GMT
#329
On November 02 2017 01:40 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2017 01:24 Conversion wrote:
On November 01 2017 22:59 Conversion wrote:
On November 01 2017 22:55 happykrogan wrote:
On November 01 2017 22:37 Conversion wrote:
On November 01 2017 22:36 Conversion wrote:
the problemI have with the scumread of “DF is attacking anyone possible” is that he could have just saved himself the effort and pushed me exactly how he pushed me last game and most likely started a wagon. my play hasn’t differed too wildly (as pointed out by krogan), so why would he waste time throwing shade at other people when he has two very good lynch targets he can focus on (me/shockey)


EBWOP


The best explanation I can think of right now is that he doesn't want to follow thread sentiment because it could cause problems later in the game.


The thing is, Shockey is the thread sentiment right now, I am not. People have me at a lazy null b/c they don't want to revisit my filter due to time or such, so it'd be a pretty safe push as a mafia. If I flip town, he could have said, "Well he was acting really scummy" or "I didn't like his tantrum/outburst" and no one would bat an eye until end game, really


Here, I'll make it easy for you.

How is this quote in any relevant way making people decide between you are me? I'm trying to explain to someone why I'm not that bad of a lynch to push to question happykrogan and ruxxar's point on DF's posts. I'm actually confused as to how you took the context of this post, and are calling it an attempt to make a play between you and me.

Also, what was the point of your inane call out that I got triggered? Is this because you somehow mistakenly are believing that the context of which I made this post is an attempt to make people lynch you over me?


You've actually compared myself and yourself a few times already. You're trying to push me with little to no value saying ##vote shockeyy while Damerion is doing the same thing from the get-go. I think I've provided enough value in my reads, with out having to repeat myself. By me pointing out you got triggered because that shows more "thread sentiment" than I do. I mean, I haven't jumped into cursing or yelling at people to "get the fuck out of my face" or call other posts "LAME" <- DF did that. So you definitely have sentiments towards the thread.


You are literally taking my post, which said you are THE thread sentiment, and trying to tell me that I said you are THE ONLY thread sentiment. You don't get to fit my words into your narrative, that's not how it works. So yeah, I agree with you. I do have sentiments towards the thread. Bad post, yet again.
Conversion
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
November 01 2017 16:47 GMT
#331
Thanks for furthering my conviction that you're scum, honestly. Stop telling other people to learn how to read when you clearly can't yourself. Your above paragraph was garbage since I called out on the same page why I'm an easy lynch.
Conversion
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
November 01 2017 16:49 GMT
#333
Are you so daft that you don't understand the differences between "ShoCkeyy is the thread sentiments" versus "ShoCkeyy is the only thread sentiment"

?
Conversion
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
November 01 2017 16:57 GMT
#337
It's like I'm talking to a brick wall..

Your point is that I'm called you the thread sentiment back then when you had two votes and people generally did not like your posts.

Your point is that I called myself not the thread sentiment in that exact point in time, fair. But you completely ignore the fact that I told the thread that DF could have easily pushed me for being triggered and being un-towny, which contradicts your point of me trying to deflect myself from being the thread sentiment.

Then I literally, on the same page as we are on now, gave reasons why mafia could push me as a good lynch.

And now you're calling me a liar without taking any of my recent posts.

Brick wall stupid town, or scum is my read on you.

I'm going to read you as scum because I refuse to believe you're actually that thick.


I bolded it for you so you can easily see why I'm voting for you, by the way. You seem to have trouble reading things.
Conversion
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
November 01 2017 17:03 GMT
#338
On November 01 2017 22:00 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2017 21:32 Conversion wrote:
On November 01 2017 20:03 ShoCkeyy wrote:
On November 01 2017 14:55 Oatsmaster wrote:
On November 01 2017 13:49 ShoCkeyy wrote:


I mean at least he posted. He could of easily not post and you would of still called it lame. Usually negative connotations like that give off a scummy vibe as well so we can do less of.

what are you saying here?
That darth is calling me scum and we could do less of that?
or that darth calling me scum is scummy and we could do less of that?


Did you read what I even posted? Wtf are you going on about? I wasn't even talking to you....


are you saying df is not scum for posting?? I’m confused as well


I don't think I should have to explain myself, but definitely not... DF was calling Ruxxar's post lame, and I just said its better that he posted rather than not. I mean I don't think it's that hard to understand what I meant if people actually read before replying.

So far DF, Damerian and Oats are on my watch list. Conversion is halfway there.


so now apparently you have DF/Damerion/Oats/Conversion as your scum reads. DF because why not, you don't actually do anything to push that, and the other 3 are scum because they voted for you. You don't actually answer as to why a Damerion/Conversion scum team makes no sense considering how I fucked up big time by pulling that "Damerion is suspicious" shit early in the game.



On November 02 2017 01:50 ShoCkeyy wrote:
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On November 02 2017 01:47 Conversion wrote:
Thanks for furthering my conviction that you're scum, honestly. Stop telling other people to learn how to read when you clearly can't yourself. Your above paragraph was garbage since I called out on the same page why I'm an easy lynch.


You haven't posted anything worthwhile... So... I mean you've only backed DF, helped push Damerion's bandwagon on me, which it's only you two voting for me currently, which makes it look even scummier. Like what else do you want me to do? You're calling my post garbage, but at least I'm present and providing my reads on the current actives, and I think I provided enough value that I don't need to explain myself once again to you.


Also, it's DF/Oats/Me voting for you, so maybe you should learn how to read vote threads as well
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November 01 2017 17:04 GMT
#340
Actually you know what.. Damerion isn't even voting you on the thread. Tictock is.

surprise surprise
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November 01 2017 17:04 GMT
#341
So explain to me how I'm supporting Damerion's bandwagon on you when he actually hasn't placed a vote on you yet.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/528274-heroes-of-the-storm-vote-thread
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November 01 2017 17:05 GMT
#342
Also if you're just going to tell me I'm triggered all the time as an argument then you can enjoy getting lynched. What a shit townie.
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November 01 2017 17:08 GMT
#345
On November 02 2017 02:06 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2017 02:03 Conversion wrote:
On November 01 2017 22:00 ShoCkeyy wrote:
On November 01 2017 21:32 Conversion wrote:
On November 01 2017 20:03 ShoCkeyy wrote:
On November 01 2017 14:55 Oatsmaster wrote:
On November 01 2017 13:49 ShoCkeyy wrote:


I mean at least he posted. He could of easily not post and you would of still called it lame. Usually negative connotations like that give off a scummy vibe as well so we can do less of.

what are you saying here?
That darth is calling me scum and we could do less of that?
or that darth calling me scum is scummy and we could do less of that?


Did you read what I even posted? Wtf are you going on about? I wasn't even talking to you....


are you saying df is not scum for posting?? I’m confused as well


I don't think I should have to explain myself, but definitely not... DF was calling Ruxxar's post lame, and I just said its better that he posted rather than not. I mean I don't think it's that hard to understand what I meant if people actually read before replying.

So far DF, Damerian and Oats are on my watch list. Conversion is halfway there.


so now apparently you have DF/Damerion/Oats/Conversion as your scum reads. DF because why not, you don't actually do anything to push that, and the other 3 are scum because they voted for you. You don't actually answer as to why a Damerion/Conversion scum team makes no sense considering how I fucked up big time by pulling that "Damerion is suspicious" shit early in the game.



On November 02 2017 01:50 ShoCkeyy wrote:
On November 02 2017 01:47 Conversion wrote:
Thanks for furthering my conviction that you're scum, honestly. Stop telling other people to learn how to read when you clearly can't yourself. Your above paragraph was garbage since I called out on the same page why I'm an easy lynch.


You haven't posted anything worthwhile... So... I mean you've only backed DF, helped push Damerion's bandwagon on me, which it's only you two voting for me currently, which makes it look even scummier. Like what else do you want me to do? You're calling my post garbage, but at least I'm present and providing my reads on the current actives, and I think I provided enough value that I don't need to explain myself once again to you.


Also, it's DF/Oats/Me voting for you, so maybe you should learn how to read vote threads as well


Yea which clearly two of the three are most likely scum. Also is it really DF voting for me? Did you just give yourself away scum? Cause in the vote thread clearly it's Tictock, You, and Oats, DF is still on Oats and I'm assuming if you and DF are talking, he told you he's possibly going to switch to me.

So now, who clearly needs to learn how to read?


I meant to say Damerion/Oats/Me, but I figured out Damerion isn't even voting for you, blowing apart your whole "wagoning" argument.. got anything better or you just gonna squirm more as scum
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November 01 2017 17:12 GMT
#346
On November 02 2017 01:50 ShoCkeyy wrote:
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On November 02 2017 01:47 Conversion wrote:
Thanks for furthering my conviction that you're scum, honestly. Stop telling other people to learn how to read when you clearly can't yourself. Your above paragraph was garbage since I called out on the same page why I'm an easy lynch.


You haven't posted anything worthwhile... So... I mean you've only backed DF, helped push Damerion's bandwagon on me, which it's only you two voting for me currently, which makes it look even scummier. Like what else do you want me to do? You're calling my post garbage, but at least I'm present and providing my reads on the current actives, and I think I provided enough value that I don't need to explain myself once again to you.


In case you're going to tell me you never said Damerion is wagoning you/voting you/whatever crap you want to pull out.

Checkmate scum. See ya
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November 01 2017 17:45 GMT
#348
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/528274-heroes-of-the-storm-vote-thread

He didn't actually vote for you, so explain how I'm wagoning him. Also explain why it logically makes sense for me to bus from Damerion by saying his play is weird if I want to wagon onto you with him.
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November 01 2017 18:33 GMT
#365
On November 02 2017 03:28 darthfoley wrote:
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On November 02 2017 01:49 Conversion wrote:
Are you so daft that you don't understand the differences between "ShoCkeyy is the thread sentiments" versus "ShoCkeyy is the only thread sentiment"

?


This is really bad semantics. You're splitting hairs for no reason


I've been splitting hairs because his entire argument is that I somehow am trying to get him lynched by deflecting the fact that I screwed up as mafia and trying to say that I am making a play based on that, then chooses to ignore every single post I made afterwards that basically paint the picture that I am an easily pushable lynch

??

Not only that, he tries to paint me as scum because I'm somehow wagoning as Damerion, but he won't explain why he thought Damerion was voting him when he wasn't, and won't answer why I would make such a ridiculously bad play of trying to bus myself from Damerion by calling his play bad if I was scum with him
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November 01 2017 18:33 GMT
#367
wagoning with Damerion* I should really proofread before I post
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November 01 2017 19:13 GMT
#392
On November 02 2017 04:10 darthfoley wrote:
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On November 02 2017 04:09 ruXxar wrote:
On November 02 2017 03:59 Oatsmaster wrote:
On November 02 2017 03:59 ruXxar wrote:
On November 02 2017 03:54 darthfoley wrote:
On November 02 2017 03:53 ruXxar wrote:
On November 02 2017 03:49 darthfoley wrote:
On November 01 2017 23:57 ruXxar wrote:
On November 01 2017 23:51 Damdred wrote:
If there is someone I dont like, df put together a string of posts that I just didnt feel good about at points.

I do think that the auicidal nature that conversion is approaching every conversation right now hes probably just going to be town.

Like rayn and I had this talk maybe a year ago? there is this point where you just basically tell town to go fuck thwmselves and it comes off as town.

and conversion is coming off that way to m e.

But I got way off track with that post meh


I agree about DF.

About conversion... the jury is still out.
He was never this edgy as town. This game and the last is not how I remember town conversion playing.


Conversion wasn't edgy at all last game. He was wishy washy and non-committal as hell which is how I caught him. His play from last game and this game are much different.


Different, yet not similar to how I remember town conversion playing.
Doesn't matter either way, I don't think the guy is mafia.


The jury is still out but you don't think the guy is mafia? So the jury is in?

lolwat


Yes, the bickering between him and shockey was enough for me.
Either they're both scum or theyre both town.

tell me why you think that ticktoc is confirmed town?

On November 01 2017 23:44 ruXxar wrote:
Tick tock - I like tick tock. His string of posts shows he’s interested in having an opinion.
His thoughts are flowing well.
He’s a town lean.


I like his tone.
Light hearted and jovial, the same way I play when I'm excited to roll town.

His reads are good and consistent on HF and Shockey.
Reads the game pretty much the same way I do, which makes it look like he doesn't have a whacky agenda.
Explains his reads so that you can see where he's coming from with his thought process.


You don't see lighthearted or jovial


agreed. your entire back and forth with me was anything but lighthearted or jovial

also telling someone you're going to vote them until they admit they were wrong seems the opposite of that as well..
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November 01 2017 22:03 GMT
#458
someone explain to me why shockey is bad town instead of scum for his leaps in logic and deflecting shit back onto me because I'm not seeing it and he should be lynched because he is scum
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#460
On November 02 2017 07:07 Oatsmaster wrote:
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On November 02 2017 07:03 Conversion wrote:
someone explain to me why shockey is bad town instead of scum for his leaps in logic and deflecting shit back onto me because I'm not seeing it and he should be lynched because he is scum

I don't see any leaps in logic from him, point it out. Also, you might be slightly biased


I can pull out quotes if you want, but he literally bases half of his scum read on me because I tried to form a wagon on him with Damerion. He refuses to answer me on why I would be scum with Damerion and make such a shitty play early in telling Damerion his play is bad or feels weird. Also Damerion actually never voted on him, so I wasn't "forming a wagon" on him

a lot of the crap before it was just semantics that he and I couldn't see eye to eye on, but he constantly dodges that question when he has no reason to as town
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November 01 2017 22:12 GMT
#461
Like people who read shock as scum come down to mostly:

1) bad entrance
2) bad mentality as town (sit around wait for people to come instead of generating content)

then for me, it's:
3) dodges questions and tries to paint me as scum for asking him questions
4) never gets around to answering them or making hard scum reads/moves

he kind of just is happy existing and putting out these flaky reads. that screams scum to me
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November 01 2017 22:17 GMT
#463
On November 02 2017 01:50 ShoCkeyy wrote:
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On November 02 2017 01:47 Conversion wrote:
Thanks for furthering my conviction that you're scum, honestly. Stop telling other people to learn how to read when you clearly can't yourself. Your above paragraph was garbage since I called out on the same page why I'm an easy lynch.


You haven't posted anything worthwhile... So... I mean you've only backed DF, helped push Damerion's bandwagon on me, which it's only you two voting for me currently, which makes it look even scummier. Like what else do you want me to do? You're calling my post garbage, but at least I'm present and providing my reads on the current actives, and I think I provided enough value that I don't need to explain myself once again to you.


right there. I called him out saying it wasn't just me and Damerion voting him, called him out saying Damerion actually never voted him, and then asked him how his argument makes sense. Completely dodges it
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November 01 2017 22:18 GMT
#464
On November 02 2017 02:04 Conversion wrote:
So explain to me how I'm supporting Damerion's bandwagon on you when he actually hasn't placed a vote on you yet.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/528274-heroes-of-the-storm-vote-thread

On November 02 2017 02:08 Conversion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2017 02:06 ShoCkeyy wrote:
On November 02 2017 02:03 Conversion wrote:
On November 01 2017 22:00 ShoCkeyy wrote:
On November 01 2017 21:32 Conversion wrote:
On November 01 2017 20:03 ShoCkeyy wrote:
On November 01 2017 14:55 Oatsmaster wrote:
On November 01 2017 13:49 ShoCkeyy wrote:


I mean at least he posted. He could of easily not post and you would of still called it lame. Usually negative connotations like that give off a scummy vibe as well so we can do less of.

what are you saying here?
That darth is calling me scum and we could do less of that?
or that darth calling me scum is scummy and we could do less of that?


Did you read what I even posted? Wtf are you going on about? I wasn't even talking to you....


are you saying df is not scum for posting?? I’m confused as well


I don't think I should have to explain myself, but definitely not... DF was calling Ruxxar's post lame, and I just said its better that he posted rather than not. I mean I don't think it's that hard to understand what I meant if people actually read before replying.

So far DF, Damerian and Oats are on my watch list. Conversion is halfway there.


so now apparently you have DF/Damerion/Oats/Conversion as your scum reads. DF because why not, you don't actually do anything to push that, and the other 3 are scum because they voted for you. You don't actually answer as to why a Damerion/Conversion scum team makes no sense considering how I fucked up big time by pulling that "Damerion is suspicious" shit early in the game.



On November 02 2017 01:50 ShoCkeyy wrote:
On November 02 2017 01:47 Conversion wrote:
Thanks for furthering my conviction that you're scum, honestly. Stop telling other people to learn how to read when you clearly can't yourself. Your above paragraph was garbage since I called out on the same page why I'm an easy lynch.


You haven't posted anything worthwhile... So... I mean you've only backed DF, helped push Damerion's bandwagon on me, which it's only you two voting for me currently, which makes it look even scummier. Like what else do you want me to do? You're calling my post garbage, but at least I'm present and providing my reads on the current actives, and I think I provided enough value that I don't need to explain myself once again to you.


Also, it's DF/Oats/Me voting for you, so maybe you should learn how to read vote threads as well


Yea which clearly two of the three are most likely scum. Also is it really DF voting for me? Did you just give yourself away scum? Cause in the vote thread clearly it's Tictock, You, and Oats, DF is still on Oats and I'm assuming if you and DF are talking, he told you he's possibly going to switch to me.

So now, who clearly needs to learn how to read?


I meant to say Damerion/Oats/Me, but I figured out Damerion isn't even voting for you, blowing apart your whole "wagoning" argument.. got anything better or you just gonna squirm more as scum


On November 02 2017 02:45 Conversion wrote:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/528274-heroes-of-the-storm-vote-thread

He didn't actually vote for you, so explain how I'm wagoning him. Also explain why it logically makes sense for me to bus from Damerion by saying his play is weird if I want to wagon onto you with him.

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November 01 2017 22:31 GMT
#468
what have I dodged? I’ll answer it immediately here. no one asked me anything, I called myself out for being a shitty player early on, and all of you are just telling me to believe this guy is town but are not convincing me. I’m not moving my vote
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November 01 2017 22:33 GMT
#469
On November 02 2017 07:22 Oatsmaster wrote:
No I want his quotes and how they are leaps of logic. Being wrong =/= a leap of logic


? what is a leap of logic to you. he cane to the wrong conclusion with wrong information and tried to piece together something to call me scum. this is pedantic
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November 01 2017 22:34 GMT
#470
On November 02 2017 07:23 ShoCkeyy wrote:
I chose to dodge it, so there's my reason. I don't need to deal with you anymore but you insist, I've caught you messing up with your own posts, I've already proven that my reading comprehension isn't off, and you're easily triggered. I rather deal with others at this point.

And you're not being any help. Brb my sun here.


you’re not dealing with anyone. you come up when someone mentions you then disappear again

your behavior is 100% clear as day scum. try harder
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November 01 2017 22:44 GMT
#473
like you made a whopping two posts that didn’t do anything

one to reply to Vivax calling you scum (yet again, you don’t do anything unless someone calls you scum)

and another barely pushing ruxxar on asking him why it makes us aligned

you don’t scum hunt you want to just be defensive all game and cruise
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November 01 2017 22:49 GMT
#475
you know what I was typing something to you oats but your wasting my time

Idc I’m parking my vote on this guy. no way he’s town
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November 01 2017 22:50 GMT
#476
and I don’t have to answer you bc you don’t care if this guy dodges me so yeah I’ll dodge your pedantic questions
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November 01 2017 23:09 GMT
#480
almost like you've done something important, am I right HF?

how many people you going to lynch with that logic? 7?
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November 02 2017 11:30 GMT
#521
y’all are still stuck on that lmao

I thought damerion was weird for playing differently and y’all jumped on my throat for sharing something I felt weird about. I said it was the same line of thinking as HF last game, never said I was 1000% right nor was I calling him scum. just something that I felt weird about

was it bad play? yes. did I flaunt myself for being correct or tried to namedrop HF? no
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November 02 2017 11:31 GMT
#522
going to re evaluate ruxxar’s filter today. I don’t like him this game
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November 02 2017 16:01 GMT
#537
verdict: I don't like rux's filter, but I don't like shock more.

still parking my vote on shock
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November 02 2017 16:08 GMT
#541
can we get off this case y'all are wasting thread space

HF votes Damerion b/c he's randomly zealous and pushing people immediately or something like that

Ruxx basically says the same thing ("I like the confidence, it's forced, not sure if one time thing, etc.")

I said his play isn't as good and I get shat on by two people who basically shared the sentiment, but the wording was bad
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November 02 2017 16:15 GMT
#545
no, I did not use it as a scum indicator, ruxxar. if you're town hop off this stupid ass argument and do something. you're not making yourself look any better
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November 02 2017 16:15 GMT
#546
On November 03 2017 01:11 ShoCkeyy wrote:
This guy must be reading a whole other thread.


great contribution, scum. keep trying to look active, it's kind of cute.
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November 02 2017 16:18 GMT
#549
On November 03 2017 01:17 ShoCkeyy wrote:
I am active, you're the one that is writing non-sense most of the time.


your last 4 posts are straight trash tier. do you have a crush on me, or do you lack the ability to do something proactively?
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November 02 2017 16:21 GMT
#552
On November 03 2017 01:19 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2017 07:45 Conversion wrote:
On November 01 2017 07:44 Damdred wrote:
On November 01 2017 07:43 Conversion wrote:
On November 01 2017 07:42 Damdred wrote:
On November 01 2017 07:40 darthfoley wrote:
On more serious terms, let's hope that we don't have AFKers this game.

Krogan's combo brrreak thing felt the most forced of any entrance. Except maybe HF


You know I was abour to tr you for your carefree attitude a d then you say something i really disagree with.

I think krogan had third best entrance, hf is meh but meh


who’s ur top 2 entrances


Obviously me and my boy damerion


lame


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On November 01 2017 08:06 Conversion wrote:
damdred/damerion/ruxxar

ez scum GG


Show nested quote +
On November 01 2017 09:20 Conversion wrote:
sigh I always have to filter meta for people

so annoying


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On November 01 2017 09:27 Conversion wrote:
go lynch me thanks

bye everyone


All non-sense, you talk about me, but you're the one spamming for a large filter. Just stop.


So are you going to be committed, call me scum, vote for me, and make a case? Or are you going to quote things from 24 hours ago and call it nonsense, because I can do that too

On November 01 2017 07:44 ShoCkeyy wrote:
lol at this early game posting. Is this the new meta? To just claim something and then hope no one notices you lied?


trash

On November 01 2017 07:48 ShoCkeyy wrote:
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On November 01 2017 07:45 Conversion wrote:
On November 01 2017 07:44 ShoCkeyy wrote:
lol at this early game posting. Is this the new meta? To just claim something and then hope no one notices you lied?


we’re just ‘avin a blast mate. how are you?


I'm doing well, just got off a work call, gotta shower and hoping that there's more posts when I'm done.


trash

On November 01 2017 09:45 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Look at that, I got two almost three pages worth of info out of my one little measly post.

Still haven't seen these people post either:

4. The_Zen_Man
5. Oatsmaster
10. Breshke
12. Vivax
13. Tictock

So we'd still have to wait till they show up.


trash
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November 02 2017 16:22 GMT
#555
On November 03 2017 01:21 ShoCkeyy wrote:
I can also keep going. I think a few of us can agree that you haven't really been useful because you've only lead your charge on me, ruxx, and who? Lol...


And more than a few have agreed in this thread that you're bad and that you're scum.

LMAO
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November 02 2017 16:23 GMT
#556
At least I have the audacity to push someone who's obviously scum in my head. You can keep diddling around and making your passive aggressive comments all you want. Doesn't change the fact that you're scum
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November 02 2017 16:24 GMT
#558
That's all I'm going to leave you with

On November 03 2017 01:23 Conversion wrote:
At least I have the audacity to push someone who's obviously scum in my head. You can keep diddling around and making your passive aggressive comments all you want. Doesn't change the fact that you're scum


If you're town, do something. Otherwise, keep being bad and scum.
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November 02 2017 21:30 GMT
#687
On November 03 2017 06:28 Vivax wrote:
Well my vote stands and I explained why I'm not going to vote TT.

I'm not feeling a Ruxxar lynch either atm.

Shockey is simply the best lynch and I'm not going to do anything besides pointing to today's arguments and voting him for the rest of the game.

As I said, lynch shockey or feed.


I mirror this part 1000%
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November 02 2017 21:58 GMT
#722
On November 03 2017 06:57 ruXxar wrote:
Ill consolidate on shockey to save myself.


do it
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November 02 2017 21:58 GMT
#727
On November 03 2017 06:58 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2017 06:57 darthfoley wrote:
On November 03 2017 06:57 Oatsmaster wrote:
Df, you don't show any interest in lynching TT, why the hesitation now?


I'm fine with a Ruxxar vs. TT lynch, but I prefer Ruxxar. I don't have any hesitation with TT

Ok.
Conversion, don't be biased because apparently he hates you.


I'm not switching my vote off. I made and stated my reasons
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November 02 2017 21:59 GMT
#735
zzzz
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November 02 2017 22:20 GMT
#750
On November 03 2017 07:17 Damdred wrote:
boom, conversion why you try to save tt at the end and why you try to hop off at the end zen?


Shock wasn't getting lynched, ruxx was the next person on my scum list

If that makes me scum w/e
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November 02 2017 22:22 GMT
#756
can we please fucking lynch shockey holy shit. or vig him
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#760
On November 03 2017 07:22 The_Zen_Man wrote:
Wow, okay. That was super good for us but I have to be honest, my vote on tick was just a mistake. I can't take credit for it at all since I originally just wanted to vote shock. But in case you guys didn't notice, CONVERSION JUST TRIED TO SAVE TICKTOCK THE MAFIA!


why would I switch onto ruxx literal seconds and risk not getting my vote counted (which happened exactly) if I was trying to save my scum partner? wtf?
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November 02 2017 22:25 GMT
#765
especially since TT flipped godfather.. why would I even risk him getting remotely closed to lynched and not vote earlier and push ruxxar hard?
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November 02 2017 22:25 GMT
#766
w/e that's all I'm defending. if you think I'm scum then make waves in D2 to get me lynched

I'm still pushing shock.
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November 03 2017 00:21 GMT
#831
On November 03 2017 08:50 Damerion wrote:
Excellent another read that I did correctly.

I believe this makes Damdred lock town, before now I had a slight suspicion that he was scum. But the way he pushed the lynch really seemed to come from a town perspective in this case.

The three things that were intereating around today and during the lynch was this.

1) Zen is most likely mafia in this situation, he seemed to be trying to save TickTock by voting elsewhere which would of saved him aome of the blame of a mislynch.

I think it is a classic newer person mistake, but it is still there. SO TickTock+Zen is a lock for me at this point.

2) Conversion and Vivax both have lauded my reads here and in previous games. However when it mattered both pushed off of where I wished to go.

This in itself is suspicious when they said they would blind follow me at other points.

Those were the three things condensed.

I also think RuxXar is probable town and look elsewhere tommorow


I mean I said that, and then you disappeared when I stopped caring about the game. I only swapped to Ruxx because my scum reads were Shock > Rux >>>>>>> everyone else. Not your best reason to be suspicious, but eh.
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November 03 2017 00:24 GMT
#832
I like shock just a tiny bit more and I'm hesitant to believe Oats' claim on Ruxxar bussing mafia GF..

hmm
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November 03 2017 13:27 GMT
#852
so at least we know Damdred is confirmed town, or are we putting tinfoil hats on and saying anyone on the TT train could be mafia that bussed him?
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November 03 2017 17:53 GMT
#862
nah we got 4 more hours of night
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November 03 2017 22:19 GMT
#900
poor df.. shot n1 2/2
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November 04 2017 00:10 GMT
#935
On November 04 2017 09:03 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2017 09:01 ruXxar wrote:
Basically mafia is trying to set up the remaining players on my wagon to get lynched.

Im not gonna get lynched, and conversion is still iffy.

That doesnt make sense. I think it was just a scared nightjkill

HAPPYKROGAN IS MAFIA


wtf is this post?

I'm iffy => krogan is mafia

??
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November 04 2017 00:13 GMT
#936
would it make sense for them to medic dodge Damdred? I'm still confused to DF NK
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November 04 2017 00:15 GMT
#938
DF was pushing ruxx pretty hard, so maybe scum shot him to make us lynch ruxx for "information" to then lead into Oats lynch?

or one of ruxx/oats is mafia, and they're trying to make noise to lead us off DF's last posts? hmm
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November 04 2017 11:57 GMT
#970
hi rotoki
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November 04 2017 13:12 GMT
#974
idk the more I look at it, the weirder your vote progression gets.

5:45 DF was your top scum read.

5:56 You realize he can't get lynched, so you "switch" onto Shock (actually switched onto TicTock)

5:59 you state this:

On November 03 2017 06:59 The_Zen_Man wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2017 06:56 The_Zen_Man wrote:
On November 03 2017 06:49 Damdred wrote:
Is darth even a real candidate at this point?

Whats your take on the other wagons zen?


Oh, just went through voting thread and yeah you're right he only has 1 vote. I'm gonna swtich my vote to Shock since he is my 2nd on scum list and atleast has a chance of being the lynch.

I explained about Rux a little in my big post, but basically I don't think that wagon is good.


On the ticktock wagon, I liked his posts in the beginning but he hasn't really pushed anyone hard or taken a hard stance since his string of posts. I like that wagon better than rux atleast.


But then you try to get off the TicTock wagon on to rux, even though you stated yourself that you like TT > rux for D1 lynch. Why would you jump off it at the last second when Shock wasn't getting lynched, and you preferred a TT lynch? Why did your logic suddenly change from "DF only has one vote, so he can't get lynched. I'm gonna hop off to someone" to "I'm switching to Shock even though I don't really see him getting lynched with less than 30 seconds left to lynch"
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November 04 2017 13:13 GMT
#975
So why would you deliberately change your vote to someone who clearly wasn't getting lynched (it was pretty clearly ruxxar vs TT), to get someone lynched over your preferred one? just doesn't make sense, even if you were trying to rectify your mistake
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November 04 2017 18:00 GMT
#989
is Zen Man around? I need answers to my question
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November 04 2017 18:22 GMT
#992
On November 05 2017 03:20 Damdred wrote:
hi, I am really deressed and i hope mafia can make me feel better.

I am hoping people are around to interact or ask questions. I really am having a hard time fighting through so if anyone wants to talk and help me focus would be appreciated.


hi damdred. hope everything is okay.

can I get your thoughts on Zen-Man contradicting himself in the way that he flailed around last minute lynch votes?
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November 04 2017 18:34 GMT
#997
On November 05 2017 03:25 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2017 03:22 Conversion wrote:
On November 05 2017 03:20 Damdred wrote:
hi, I am really deressed and i hope mafia can make me feel better.

I am hoping people are around to interact or ask questions. I really am having a hard time fighting through so if anyone wants to talk and help me focus would be appreciated.


hi damdred. hope everything is okay.

can I get your thoughts on Zen-Man contradicting himself in the way that he flailed around last minute lynch votes?


No lol, I was just told my position is being eliminated at the school I work at in december.

So yay me.

I think Zen is probable scum, him hopping on and then trying to hop off I think is scummy. His explanation is meh.

I would probably just lynch him today.


:/ sorry to hear that.

what are your thoughts on the rest of the game? I'm finding it hard pressed to see the third scum here, and game's pretty dead so it's not helping
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November 04 2017 18:34 GMT
#998
On November 05 2017 03:34 ritoky wrote:
is zen the guy who accidentaly'd his vote?


yes
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November 04 2017 19:20 GMT
#1005
On November 05 2017 03:41 ritoky wrote:
why exactly are you lynching someone who lynched mafia on a 4/4 split vote the subsequent day, even if by accident?


because he tried to swap out of the wagon, failed, and now is saying he didn't mean to lynch mafia

?? why would he even say that as town, and then try to defend his position on swapping off TT wagon. I would have just parked the vote on TT as town and gone "lol mafia lynch I'm good"
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November 04 2017 19:38 GMT
#1009
On November 05 2017 04:31 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2017 04:20 Conversion wrote:
On November 05 2017 03:41 ritoky wrote:
why exactly are you lynching someone who lynched mafia on a 4/4 split vote the subsequent day, even if by accident?


because he tried to swap out of the wagon, failed, and now is saying he didn't mean to lynch mafia

?? why would he even say that as town, and then try to defend his position on swapping off TT wagon. I would have just parked the vote on TT as town and gone "lol mafia lynch I'm good"


i mean from what i see in the voting thread you tried to change at the last moment to stop the lynch too, so you shouldn't really be casting stones m8.

your point is dumb though because regardless of alignment it is best for him to try to take credit for the lynch. you're saying "sub-optimal therefore scum". when it is sub-optimal as scum too.


I tried to switch off because I wasn't getting my lynch. I didn't try to make up an explanation that contradicted what my entire voting motive was sure, but sure. dumb point
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November 04 2017 19:54 GMT
#1011
great imagination, too bad it's only imagination because my role PM says I'm auto select
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November 04 2017 20:16 GMT
#1013
On November 05 2017 05:03 ritoky wrote:
i don't buy what you're selling.

you say he made it up, when clearly he is being honest. he either accidentally'd a mafia as town or accidentally'd his partner; but i think it is pretty clear he is being honest.

you say his admission makes no sense as town, when it quite obviously makes more sense as town being honest than it does from any mafia perspective where it is significantly more beneficial to take the credit.

you say he tried to last minute derail a vote off of confirmed mafia, when you did the same thing.

i find that evidence lacking when put next to "lynched mafia yesterday".


that's just like, your opinion man

I don't care what you buy or not. you see his actions as townie (as does HF), I see it as a dumb scum move.

I'll wait until he defends himself to form a better opinion. all I know is I'm not scum, and I believe that at least Damdred isn't scum. no one else here is really convincing me otherwise on why town Zen would even try to defend his vote switching, so you can call out for having dumb ideas/stupid or not, but I don't really care tbh.
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November 04 2017 20:17 GMT
#1014
also, I'm not attacking the point that he tried to derail off confirmed mafia. I'm attacking his vote logic that suddenly switched at deadline for some reason. so if you're going to not buy what I'm selling, at least make sure it's the right idea
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November 04 2017 20:19 GMT
#1015
no idea why you can't even read what I'm calling him out on if you think you're so smart

On November 04 2017 22:12 Conversion wrote:
idk the more I look at it, the weirder your vote progression gets.

5:45 DF was your top scum read.

5:56 You realize he can't get lynched, so you "switch" onto Shock (actually switched onto TicTock)

5:59 you state this:

Show nested quote +
On November 03 2017 06:59 The_Zen_Man wrote:
On November 03 2017 06:56 The_Zen_Man wrote:
On November 03 2017 06:49 Damdred wrote:
Is darth even a real candidate at this point?

Whats your take on the other wagons zen?


Oh, just went through voting thread and yeah you're right he only has 1 vote. I'm gonna swtich my vote to Shock since he is my 2nd on scum list and atleast has a chance of being the lynch.

I explained about Rux a little in my big post, but basically I don't think that wagon is good.


On the ticktock wagon, I liked his posts in the beginning but he hasn't really pushed anyone hard or taken a hard stance since his string of posts. I like that wagon better than rux atleast.


But then you try to get off the TicTock wagon on to rux, even though you stated yourself that you like TT > rux for D1 lynch. Why would you jump off it at the last second when Shock wasn't getting lynched, and you preferred a TT lynch? Why did your logic suddenly change from "DF only has one vote, so he can't get lynched. I'm gonna hop off to someone" to "I'm switching to Shock even though I don't really see him getting lynched with less than 30 seconds left to lynch"


like it took ruxxar less than 10 minutes to see what I was calling him out on
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November 04 2017 20:28 GMT
#1017
On November 05 2017 05:26 ritoky wrote:
a couple things:

1) you're assuming that a person you've never played mafia with on these forums is a) sane and b) capable; which is a mistake

2) you have to realize the insanity of your position. a mafia godfather is lynched on a 4/4 vote in a 13 person game and you want to lynch ON the vote wagon the subsequent day.


nah
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November 05 2017 18:35 GMT
#1046
On November 06 2017 03:26 The_Zen_Man wrote:
Also Ruxxar and Conversion, I want to hear why all the arguments you made against me also don't apply to Conversion? His vote switch is even scummier because there was no accidental voting there, he wanted to vote against Ruxxar which would have saved TT. I asked him about it and this:

Show nested quote +
On November 03 2017 07:22 Conversion wrote:
On November 03 2017 07:22 The_Zen_Man wrote:
Wow, okay. That was super good for us but I have to be honest, my vote on tick was just a mistake. I can't take credit for it at all since I originally just wanted to vote shock. But in case you guys didn't notice, CONVERSION JUST TRIED TO SAVE TICKTOCK THE MAFIA!


why would I switch onto ruxx literal seconds and risk not getting my vote counted (which happened exactly) if I was trying to save my scum partner? wtf?


Show nested quote +
On November 03 2017 07:25 Conversion wrote:
especially since TT flipped godfather.. why would I even risk him getting remotely closed to lynched and not vote earlier and push ruxxar hard?


I was the one that asked this and the reason I had no follow up is because what Conversion said here makes sense. And the same way it can used as an argument for me. What dosen't make sense is why Conversion now suddenly is pushing me for something that basically he also did.


? I voted you because you forever to give me one more thing to my question. also why would I scumread myself lol.
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November 05 2017 18:41 GMT
#1047
who do I sheep before deadline
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November 05 2017 18:51 GMT
#1049
On November 05 2017 03:46 ritoky wrote:
i mean really the only alignments that interest me are ruxxars and zen's tbh. seems like i subbed into a pretty favorable game state.

the worlds are ruxx + 1, zen +1, or basically auto with 6 conf town.

4/4 split lynching mafia means likely pure wagon. vigi shoots from outside the wagon is 5th conf town. i am 6th.


like if the worlds are ever ruxx + 1 and zen + 1 in your head, why do you go away after trying to shut down an on wagon lynch? who are you even gonna lynch today? oats?
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November 05 2017 19:00 GMT
#1051
that answered my question. really proved that you're not an idiot
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November 05 2017 19:58 GMT
#1074
ritoky is a town read for you, but you're sticking your vote on something ritoky advised you not to do.. lol
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November 05 2017 19:59 GMT
#1075
also if your only reason for thinking I'm scum because you had a lapse in logic that you took 24 hours to answer, that's brilliant
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November 05 2017 21:23 GMT
#1089
I'm moving shit so I can't be here at deadline

GL.

don't lynch me I'm not mafia thanks
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November 05 2017 21:55 GMT
#1117
fuck off oats and ruxx I’m jailkeeper
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November 05 2017 23:05 GMT
#1144
On November 06 2017 07:41 The_Zen_Man wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2017 06:55 Conversion wrote:
fuck off oats and ruxx I’m jailkeeper


It's this im guessing? Honestly, though wtf? Why would you vote for yourself and then also claim when you weren't even set to be lynched? Even with your vote Oats was still set to be lynched.


dude you literally afk, don’t answer questions until 24 hours later, and don’t even play the game generally. piss off
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November 05 2017 23:11 GMT
#1145
like you randomly show up, vote off wagon again against your “I’m going to not lynch my top scumread because he’s not going to get lynched” bullshit you did with DF, don’t read my blue claim, and ended up the only vote against me.

what’s next, you’re going to counterclaim my jailkeeper?
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November 05 2017 23:16 GMT
#1146
I’m lynching zen tomorrow

HF are you being srs with vig claim rescind? if so who the hell is vig and who shot vivax/df
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November 06 2017 02:13 GMT
#1158
I hope mafia kepe me alive and try to counterclaim me. would make things interesting
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November 06 2017 13:58 GMT
#1165
ruxxar or zen lynch or riot
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November 06 2017 14:53 GMT
#1170
On November 06 2017 03:03 The_Zen_Man wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2017 22:12 Conversion wrote:
idk the more I look at it, the weirder your vote progression gets.

5:45 DF was your top scum read.

5:56 You realize he can't get lynched, so you "switch" onto Shock (actually switched onto TicTock)

5:59 you state this:

On November 03 2017 06:59 The_Zen_Man wrote:
On November 03 2017 06:56 The_Zen_Man wrote:
On November 03 2017 06:49 Damdred wrote:
Is darth even a real candidate at this point?

Whats your take on the other wagons zen?


Oh, just went through voting thread and yeah you're right he only has 1 vote. I'm gonna swtich my vote to Shock since he is my 2nd on scum list and atleast has a chance of being the lynch.

I explained about Rux a little in my big post, but basically I don't think that wagon is good.


On the ticktock wagon, I liked his posts in the beginning but he hasn't really pushed anyone hard or taken a hard stance since his string of posts. I like that wagon better than rux atleast.


But then you try to get off the TicTock wagon on to rux, even though you stated yourself that you like TT > rux for D1 lynch. Why would you jump off it at the last second when Shock wasn't getting lynched, and you preferred a TT lynch? Why did your logic suddenly change from "DF only has one vote, so he can't get lynched. I'm gonna hop off to someone" to "I'm switching to Shock even though I don't really see him getting lynched with less than 30 seconds left to lynch"


At the time of my original vote (22:58 swedish time) it would have been split between Shock, TT and Ruxx so it was still a viable lynch.
Since Ruxx was set to be lynched I figured he would want to maybe save himself and Vote Shock. After I made my accidental vote I went back to the thread and made that post, then back to vote thread and wanted to double check voting. That's when I saw my own post and just hurried to change it to what I wanted before. I didn't even see TT vote since I didn't refresh, just wanted to change my vote as fast as humanly possible.


FYI this is straight up a lie. Shock wasn't a viable lynch target unless you got +1 on the shock train with you, which you didn't. so unless you're saying you saw the future and saw ruxxar (I believe he's the only other person who actually wanted to try and jump off and lynch Shock instead of TT) hope onto Shock, in which case your vote would have swayed the D1 lynch to get Shock, he was never really in the running for a lynch.

On November 06 2017 04:51 The_Zen_Man wrote:
Right now I could go for a lynch on either Rux, Conversion or Shock. I'm gonna keep my vote on Ruxx for now since Oats is a strong townread for me.

Ritoky is also a townread for me. Maybe it's because he seems like the only sane person after the last few days of dealing with something really stupid. But he did go against a wagon that at the time was very strong and had some good posts on the subject. That's a very town move to make.


So his 2/3 lynch are the two blue roles, ends up switching to me. Comes right after the lynch to try and make himself look good after a town mislynch.

On November 06 2017 07:10 The_Zen_Man wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2017 07:05 Oatsmaster wrote:
GG gl


GG man, don't know why everyone voted for you. Especially with Conversion.


Opportunistic scum, lynch him please. Don't care if he was on wagon or not D1.

On November 06 2017 04:05 ritoky wrote:
so conv, oats, shockey, or krogan will be getting my vote; since to me the game seems like basically auto.

the ruxx +1 world only exists if you think the lynch was mvm like oats does from what i gather, which just seems the least likely to me because of shit like why ruxx elects to bus a teammate to save himself when there are alternatives available to him. and the zen +1 world only exists if you think zen accidentally'd his partner, which you seem to believe and i currently don't.

elsewise the game is basically we have 3 lynches guaranteed lynches and 4 people. if 1 of them becomes super town or is blue then it is auto....so game seems pretty simple from where i sit.


JK/Town/Vig

so you going to vote Krogan now?
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November 06 2017 14:57 GMT
#1171
almost want to believe it's ritoky/zen but that's too easy
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November 06 2017 15:00 GMT
#1172
ritoky, ruxxar, zen, krogan, hf are the only 5 I want to lynch into
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November 06 2017 15:31 GMT
#1180
On November 07 2017 00:12 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Also Conversion, don't know if you've used your ability, but you're a pretty big target for tonight, after calling it out, it might change, it might not.


I mean there's no way scum team is going to not kill me, unless they're going to try counterclaiming and convincing half of time that I'm lying

On November 07 2017 00:11 ShoCkeyy wrote:
i wouldn't even mind taking out holyflare if need be. I remember a scum game I played with him where he single handily was able to convince town he was the right dude to vote for in the last few minutes of the game and win the scum game for us, I mean with the godfather out, I wouldn't mind taking a look into his posting style from that game and this game.

The bad thing it's currently night time right?. So we have a few hours to figure out the next person before getting killed.


I think ruxx or zen needs to go today. I thought Oats started my wagon first on trying to paint me as scummy for voting for myself, but it was ruxxar so that was my bad.

HF doesn't need to go first IMO. he doesn't really give us anything, but that's my opinion
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November 06 2017 15:31 GMT
#1182
half of town* not time
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November 06 2017 15:32 GMT
#1183
On November 07 2017 00:27 ruXxar wrote:
@Shockey.

Please confirm who you shot.


This is dumb, stop fishing for his kill. Who are your top scum reads with oats flip?
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November 06 2017 15:42 GMT
#1187
On November 07 2017 00:41 ruXxar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2017 00:32 Conversion wrote:
On November 07 2017 00:27 ruXxar wrote:
@Shockey.

Please confirm who you shot.


This is dumb, stop fishing for his kill. Who are your top scum reads with oats flip?


Why should we not know?


why are you fishing so hard for his kill? he shot someone, that's it. unless you're going to counterclaim vig, what's the benefit of the information?

I'm not seeing it
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November 06 2017 15:46 GMT
#1189
On November 07 2017 00:44 ruXxar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2017 00:42 Conversion wrote:
On November 07 2017 00:41 ruXxar wrote:
On November 07 2017 00:32 Conversion wrote:
On November 07 2017 00:27 ruXxar wrote:
@Shockey.

Please confirm who you shot.


This is dumb, stop fishing for his kill. Who are your top scum reads with oats flip?


Why should we not know?


why are you fishing so hard for his kill? he shot someone, that's it. unless you're going to counterclaim vig, what's the benefit of the information?

I'm not seeing it


Because it’s going to affect my decision for who I want to lynch next.


and who is your lynch pool based on a yes/no answer?
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November 06 2017 18:35 GMT
#1208
On November 07 2017 03:25 The_Zen_Man wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2017 23:53 Conversion wrote:
On November 06 2017 03:03 The_Zen_Man wrote:
On November 04 2017 22:12 Conversion wrote:
idk the more I look at it, the weirder your vote progression gets.

5:45 DF was your top scum read.

5:56 You realize he can't get lynched, so you "switch" onto Shock (actually switched onto TicTock)

5:59 you state this:

On November 03 2017 06:59 The_Zen_Man wrote:
On November 03 2017 06:56 The_Zen_Man wrote:
On November 03 2017 06:49 Damdred wrote:
Is darth even a real candidate at this point?

Whats your take on the other wagons zen?


Oh, just went through voting thread and yeah you're right he only has 1 vote. I'm gonna swtich my vote to Shock since he is my 2nd on scum list and atleast has a chance of being the lynch.

I explained about Rux a little in my big post, but basically I don't think that wagon is good.


On the ticktock wagon, I liked his posts in the beginning but he hasn't really pushed anyone hard or taken a hard stance since his string of posts. I like that wagon better than rux atleast.


But then you try to get off the TicTock wagon on to rux, even though you stated yourself that you like TT > rux for D1 lynch. Why would you jump off it at the last second when Shock wasn't getting lynched, and you preferred a TT lynch? Why did your logic suddenly change from "DF only has one vote, so he can't get lynched. I'm gonna hop off to someone" to "I'm switching to Shock even though I don't really see him getting lynched with less than 30 seconds left to lynch"


At the time of my original vote (22:58 swedish time) it would have been split between Shock, TT and Ruxx so it was still a viable lynch.
Since Ruxx was set to be lynched I figured he would want to maybe save himself and Vote Shock. After I made my accidental vote I went back to the thread and made that post, then back to vote thread and wanted to double check voting. That's when I saw my own post and just hurried to change it to what I wanted before. I didn't even see TT vote since I didn't refresh, just wanted to change my vote as fast as humanly possible.


FYI this is straight up a lie. Shock wasn't a viable lynch target unless you got +1 on the shock train with you, which you didn't. so unless you're saying you saw the future and saw ruxxar (I believe he's the only other person who actually wanted to try and jump off and lynch Shock instead of TT) hope onto Shock, in which case your vote would have swayed the D1 lynch to get Shock, he was never really in the running for a lynch.

On November 06 2017 04:51 The_Zen_Man wrote:
Right now I could go for a lynch on either Rux, Conversion or Shock. I'm gonna keep my vote on Ruxx for now since Oats is a strong townread for me.

Ritoky is also a townread for me. Maybe it's because he seems like the only sane person after the last few days of dealing with something really stupid. But he did go against a wagon that at the time was very strong and had some good posts on the subject. That's a very town move to make.


So his 2/3 lynch are the two blue roles, ends up switching to me. Comes right after the lynch to try and make himself look good after a town mislynch.

On November 06 2017 07:10 The_Zen_Man wrote:
On November 06 2017 07:05 Oatsmaster wrote:
GG gl


GG man, don't know why everyone voted for you. Especially with Conversion.


Opportunistic scum, lynch him please. Don't care if he was on wagon or not D1.

On November 06 2017 04:05 ritoky wrote:
so conv, oats, shockey, or krogan will be getting my vote; since to me the game seems like basically auto.

the ruxx +1 world only exists if you think the lynch was mvm like oats does from what i gather, which just seems the least likely to me because of shit like why ruxx elects to bus a teammate to save himself when there are alternatives available to him. and the zen +1 world only exists if you think zen accidentally'd his partner, which you seem to believe and i currently don't.

elsewise the game is basically we have 3 lynches guaranteed lynches and 4 people. if 1 of them becomes super town or is blue then it is auto....so game seems pretty simple from where i sit.


JK/Town/Vig

so you going to vote Krogan now?



First of no it's not a lie. I'm gonna take this really slowly to have you understand because I'm really tired of hearing the same thing. So, when I voted the score would have been 3-3-3 between TT shock and Ruxxar. Now Ruxxar was still set to be lynched because he reached 3 votes first. So knowing this it would be obvious that Ruxxar would want to save himself, making it a lynch that had more than a fair chance of going throgh.

And how was I to know about blue roles before the claim even happened? Either you are stupid or just deliberately spreading misinformation on me.


Before the claim happened? You literally asked people why they didn't vote for me after my blue claim

?
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November 06 2017 18:36 GMT
#1209
I'm onto you because you are my least favorite player in the pool of 5 I mentioned, so either you're stupid and you can't read, or you're scum
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#1210
On November 07 2017 03:25 The_Zen_Man wrote:
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On November 06 2017 23:53 Conversion wrote:
On November 06 2017 03:03 The_Zen_Man wrote:
On November 04 2017 22:12 Conversion wrote:
idk the more I look at it, the weirder your vote progression gets.

5:45 DF was your top scum read.

5:56 You realize he can't get lynched, so you "switch" onto Shock (actually switched onto TicTock)

5:59 you state this:

On November 03 2017 06:59 The_Zen_Man wrote:
On November 03 2017 06:56 The_Zen_Man wrote:
On November 03 2017 06:49 Damdred wrote:
Is darth even a real candidate at this point?

Whats your take on the other wagons zen?


Oh, just went through voting thread and yeah you're right he only has 1 vote. I'm gonna swtich my vote to Shock since he is my 2nd on scum list and atleast has a chance of being the lynch.

I explained about Rux a little in my big post, but basically I don't think that wagon is good.


On the ticktock wagon, I liked his posts in the beginning but he hasn't really pushed anyone hard or taken a hard stance since his string of posts. I like that wagon better than rux atleast.


But then you try to get off the TicTock wagon on to rux, even though you stated yourself that you like TT > rux for D1 lynch. Why would you jump off it at the last second when Shock wasn't getting lynched, and you preferred a TT lynch? Why did your logic suddenly change from "DF only has one vote, so he can't get lynched. I'm gonna hop off to someone" to "I'm switching to Shock even though I don't really see him getting lynched with less than 30 seconds left to lynch"


At the time of my original vote (22:58 swedish time) it would have been split between Shock, TT and Ruxx so it was still a viable lynch.
Since Ruxx was set to be lynched I figured he would want to maybe save himself and Vote Shock. After I made my accidental vote I went back to the thread and made that post, then back to vote thread and wanted to double check voting. That's when I saw my own post and just hurried to change it to what I wanted before. I didn't even see TT vote since I didn't refresh, just wanted to change my vote as fast as humanly possible.


FYI this is straight up a lie. Shock wasn't a viable lynch target unless you got +1 on the shock train with you, which you didn't. so unless you're saying you saw the future and saw ruxxar (I believe he's the only other person who actually wanted to try and jump off and lynch Shock instead of TT) hope onto Shock, in which case your vote would have swayed the D1 lynch to get Shock, he was never really in the running for a lynch.

On November 06 2017 04:51 The_Zen_Man wrote:
Right now I could go for a lynch on either Rux, Conversion or Shock. I'm gonna keep my vote on Ruxx for now since Oats is a strong townread for me.

Ritoky is also a townread for me. Maybe it's because he seems like the only sane person after the last few days of dealing with something really stupid. But he did go against a wagon that at the time was very strong and had some good posts on the subject. That's a very town move to make.


So his 2/3 lynch are the two blue roles, ends up switching to me. Comes right after the lynch to try and make himself look good after a town mislynch.

On November 06 2017 07:10 The_Zen_Man wrote:
On November 06 2017 07:05 Oatsmaster wrote:
GG gl


GG man, don't know why everyone voted for you. Especially with Conversion.


Opportunistic scum, lynch him please. Don't care if he was on wagon or not D1.

On November 06 2017 04:05 ritoky wrote:
so conv, oats, shockey, or krogan will be getting my vote; since to me the game seems like basically auto.

the ruxx +1 world only exists if you think the lynch was mvm like oats does from what i gather, which just seems the least likely to me because of shit like why ruxx elects to bus a teammate to save himself when there are alternatives available to him. and the zen +1 world only exists if you think zen accidentally'd his partner, which you seem to believe and i currently don't.

elsewise the game is basically we have 3 lynches guaranteed lynches and 4 people. if 1 of them becomes super town or is blue then it is auto....so game seems pretty simple from where i sit.


JK/Town/Vig

so you going to vote Krogan now?



First of no it's not a lie. I'm gonna take this really slowly to have you understand because I'm really tired of hearing the same thing. So, when I voted the score would have been 3-3-3 between TT shock and Ruxxar. Now Ruxxar was still set to be lynched because he reached 3 votes first. So knowing this it would be obvious that Ruxxar would want to save himself, making it a lynch that had more than a fair chance of going throgh.

And how was I to know about blue roles before the claim even happened? Either you are stupid or just deliberately spreading misinformation on me.


First off, you're telling me that this realization would have come to Ruxxar within the 90 seconds you came to the thread and voted.

Second, when you switched your vote you would have been at a 3-3-3 with TT/Shock/Ruxxar, and ruxxar still would not be lynched. This happened to me last game when I hit 5-4 and someone voted off me, making it 4-4 between me and Damerion. I still got lynched, even though Damerion "hit" 4 votes first.

So unless you're telling me that mechanics somehow changed between games, you're wrong. Don't belittle me because you're bad at playing mafia.
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November 06 2017 18:42 GMT
#1211
Last of all, you still fail to answer why your logic of "I'm not going to vote someone who's not going to be lynched" somehow CHANGED over two cycles and you keep refusing to address it. What was your point in voting off wagon on to me there, when you had a legitimate chance of lynching your other scum read in ruxxar? what a lame way to dodge committing to a wagon, so you vote for me without even realizing my claim. It's just straight up embarrassing.
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November 06 2017 18:43 GMT
#1212
On November 04 2017 21:50 The_Zen_Man wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2017 21:27 ruXxar wrote:
On November 04 2017 21:24 The_Zen_Man wrote:
On November 04 2017 20:28 ruXxar wrote:
On November 04 2017 19:46 The_Zen_Man wrote:
About the night kill, As some have pointed out already it's suprising that none of the 3 that voted for TT died tonight and instead DF. If not the three then I was pretty sure Oats would die, he seems the most townie to me. It could have been a mafia vote for mafia on TT to deflect suspicion, and they just didn't expect me accidently also voting for him.


Looked more to me like you mis-voted and then were scrambling at the last second to vote for shockey to save your team mate.

See, here's why I don't like you:

1) Here you say that you're going to switch to shockey, because he "has a chance of being the lynch".
Fair enough.

On November 03 2017 06:56 The_Zen_Man wrote:
On November 03 2017 06:49 Damdred wrote:
Is darth even a real candidate at this point?

Whats your take on the other wagons zen?


Oh, just went through voting thread and yeah you're right he only has 1 vote. I'm gonna swtich my vote to Shock since he is my 2nd on scum list and atleast has a chance of being the lynch.

I explained about Rux a little in my big post, but basically I don't think that wagon is good.



Next thing you go into the vote thread and vote tick tock by accident.

2) Now back in the thread, you say that you prefer a Tick tock lynch over a Ruxxar lynch.

On November 03 2017 06:59 The_Zen_Man wrote:
On November 03 2017 06:56 The_Zen_Man wrote:
On November 03 2017 06:49 Damdred wrote:
Is darth even a real candidate at this point?

Whats your take on the other wagons zen?


Oh, just went through voting thread and yeah you're right he only has 1 vote. I'm gonna swtich my vote to Shock since he is my 2nd on scum list and atleast has a chance of being the lynch.

I explained about Rux a little in my big post, but basically I don't think that wagon is good.


On the ticktock wagon, I liked his posts in the beginning but he hasn't really pushed anyone hard or taken a hard stance since his string of posts. I like that wagon better than rux atleast.





Now back in the vote thread the vote looks like this with 1 minute to go:

On November 03 2017 07:09 Rels wrote:

Tictock (4): Damdred, ruXxar, Damerion, The_Zen_Man
ruxXar (4): Oatsmaster, Darthfoley, happykrogan, Tictock
ShoCkeyy (2): Conversion, Vivax,


You unvoting tick tock and then voting shockey at this point is really scummy because you are going against both of the points you made earlier:

1) You wanted to vote shockey because he had a chance to get lynched. Well at the point you tried to unvote tick tock there was NO chance of shockey getting lynched.

2) You liked the Tick tock lynch better than the Ruxxar lynch. By attempting to unvote Tick tock, you were effectively setting up the hammer for my lynch by making it 4-3 in favor of me.


Again the same, trying to fit your view by ignoring reality of what happened. I clearly said I wanted to vote shock, and then I tried to switch when I realised my mistake. Anyone should be able to realise that the voteswitch wasn't alignment indictive at all yet you using it as an argument is really strange. My vote was on Shockey from the beginning, that was what I meant to do and that was what I wanted my vote on. Yeah, I preferred TT wagon over you, but I preferred Shock over both of you, something I said several times.

At this point it seems you are just ignoring the truth and cherry picking to fit your view.


What was the point in voting for shockey at the last minute when:

1) He wasnt going to get lynched
2) You would let me get lynched over your preferred tick tock lynch


Because he was who I wanted to vote for in my original vote. And when I was gonna vote for him he was actually a possible lynch. What aren't you getting about this? My vote was never on TT, it was always on Shockey which is why I tried to correct my mistake. I wasn't thinking about "Changing this vote will get Ruxxar killed" but "I accidently voted for TT and not Shock like I wanted to, let's change it to what I wanted".


This is your answer to why you voted Shock, because he was a possible lynch. Fine, but how does your logic hold now that I wasn't even close to a possible lynch?
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November 06 2017 19:00 GMT
#1217
On November 07 2017 03:56 Holyflare wrote:
I also agree with that, no need for name calling.


I only called him stupid because he did, tbh. If you're going to hurl insults, be ready to have it thrown back at yo
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November 06 2017 19:01 GMT
#1218
On November 07 2017 03:59 The_Zen_Man wrote:
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On November 07 2017 03:42 Conversion wrote:
Last of all, you still fail to answer why your logic of "I'm not going to vote someone who's not going to be lynched" somehow CHANGED over two cycles and you keep refusing to address it. What was your point in voting off wagon on to me there, when you had a legitimate chance of lynching your other scum read in ruxxar? what a lame way to dodge committing to a wagon, so you vote for me without even realizing my claim. It's just straight up embarrassing.


Who else was there at that time? I was clear from the start that I read Oats as town so I was clerly not going to vote for him. The second biggest wagon was the one on me, and after that you were the third biggest one. It was an obvious choice really.


I was on my own wagon, then I immediately voted off of it. Oats voted off of it before your vote, then you hopped on just as Ruxxar hopped off
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November 06 2017 19:04 GMT
#1219
On November 07 2017 03:54 The_Zen_Man wrote:
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On November 07 2017 03:36 Conversion wrote:
I'm onto you because you are my least favorite player in the pool of 5 I mentioned, so either you're stupid and you can't read, or you're scum


If you don't like me that's fine. But try to be a little objective here instead of just going after people you don't like. You honestly don't seem to be able to take even the slightest bit of criticism, however small.


You're the one insulting me when I'm asking you a very simple question:

You state you don't like voting on wagons that won't get anywhere, so why are you voting me instead of Ruxxar, who is also one of your scum reads?
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November 06 2017 19:12 GMT
#1222
I'm calling you scum for the exact same reasons I called shockey D1. you don't do anything, you only respond/have opinions of people who are attacking you. Your entire D2 summary is "I think Ruxxar or Conversion should be lynched because they attacked me. Shock too, from D1. And oats is town"

you don't contribute to anything else, you tell everyone you're tired of hearing/repeating the same thing, yet you don't do anything after addressing the same point 5-6 times, then you randomly show up for votes and completely miss a blue claim for the D2 lynch.

what's your thoughts on D3 lynch, and who's your top lynch candidate?
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November 06 2017 19:21 GMT
#1224
On November 06 2017 23:49 Holyflare wrote:
Like a darthfoley kill does not make the slightest bit of sense unless one of the mafia people bussed their team mate and don't want to look implicated from poe nks or they're trying to set up ruxxar.

Ritoky just blanket statements that we shouldn't lynch people on the wagon which is bad in this situation. It's either a high level ish kill or a bus but he's trying to make it neither.


let's say we lynch ritoky and he flips scum. who would the pool be narrowed down to for last scum?
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November 06 2017 19:27 GMT
#1226
On November 07 2017 04:24 The_Zen_Man wrote:
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On November 07 2017 04:12 Conversion wrote:
I'm calling you scum for the exact same reasons I called shockey D1. you don't do anything, you only respond/have opinions of people who are attacking you. Your entire D2 summary is "I think Ruxxar or Conversion should be lynched because they attacked me. Shock too, from D1. And oats is town"

you don't contribute to anything else, you tell everyone you're tired of hearing/repeating the same thing, yet you don't do anything after addressing the same point 5-6 times, then you randomly show up for votes and completely miss a blue claim for the D2 lynch.

what's your thoughts on D3 lynch, and who's your top lynch candidate?


Way to belittle everything I said D2. I could easily do something similliar about you writing "All you did D2 was go after zen, drop him then vote for yourself". I have no problem with people going after me, but when they ignore and manipulate the truth then I do have a problem with it and gonna call them out for it.

After the blue claims of you and Shock I still have Ruxx on my scum-list. After you unvoted me he also unvoted me not long after, going a full 180 on his earlier view. Then when you went after me again he followed suit, even though he had said that he believed me and that I seemed honest.


I'm not going to go back and quote your entire filter for you, but feel free to correct me otherwise. I read your filter multiple times and you have done nothing, but sure. I'm belittling your swooping accomplishments in doing absolutely nothing. it's a fact. if you want to call me out for doing nothing for D2, go ahead. it's also a fact
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November 06 2017 21:01 GMT
#1235
On November 07 2017 05:59 ritoky wrote:
still not mafia. never was.


good defense mate. who's on your lynch pile in an hour?
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November 06 2017 21:01 GMT
#1236
nah, let's ask. who do you want to lynch tomorrow and why
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November 06 2017 21:02 GMT
#1237
HF wants to lynch you, I'm probably gonna die but I'm leaning towards ruxxar more than zen. zen wants to lynch ruxxar.

no idea about anyone else
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November 06 2017 21:47 GMT
#1265
On November 07 2017 06:41 Holyflare wrote:
why would mafia be OFF wagon when their partner is getting lynched wtf?

that's the most bull shit thing I've heard


I find this reaction funny because you said the exact same thing about Onegu last game haha
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November 06 2017 22:34 GMT
#1291
jesus I was reading the thread and wondering why y'all thought I was mafia for a minute
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November 06 2017 22:37 GMT
#1294
I don't know if I get a notification for being roleblocked, so unless I do, I did not get roleblocked.

I flipped between jailkeeping Damdred and HF, ended up on Damdred.

HF flipping vig makes sense, so our pool increases with Shockey no longer being vig
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November 06 2017 22:38 GMT
#1296
I'm assuming mafia are keeping me alive even with my role because I'm bad otherwise, so they think I can be spared a day to yell shit at people and confuse town, and they can get rid of me N3
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November 06 2017 22:39 GMT
#1297
tbh I wish I got NK'd I don't really want to play anymore but whatever
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November 06 2017 22:40 GMT
#1299
On November 07 2017 07:39 ritoky wrote:
like it doesn't matter because you're blue until cc'd; but if you have a psuedo-conf town who is afk and an actual conf town who is posting.....you save the one that isn't afk.


you want to reread the part where I called myself bad and take a deep breath? or do you want to waste your brain power on calling me bad
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November 06 2017 22:40 GMT
#1300
w/e I'm out

go lynch whoever you want

c ya
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November 06 2017 22:45 GMT
#1305
I'm gonna do what I said and park my vote on ruxxar

I'll be back tomorrow maybe

gl town
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November 07 2017 14:50 GMT
#1325
okay I'm back

who are we lynching between fake vig claimer and zen and ruxxar
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November 07 2017 15:29 GMT
#1333
On November 08 2017 00:01 ShoCkeyy wrote:
If you lynch me you're letting the mafia win so, go read my filter and you'll see I never claimed it.


so who do you want to lynch
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November 07 2017 15:33 GMT
#1335
On November 08 2017 00:29 ruXxar wrote:
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On November 07 2017 23:50 Conversion wrote:
okay I'm back

who are we lynching between fake vig claimer and zen and ruxxar


You have my approval to vote for whomever you want to vote for.
I'd like to hear your thoughts on your top scum reads, including me.


I still don't like zen, shockeyy is up in the air since not vig.

your play is just too soft and wishy washy, imo. actually, mostly everyone is playing really soft. no one is really hard pushing anyone as scum besides me, and I don't even know if I'm right

I want to lynch into you three today
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November 07 2017 15:33 GMT
#1336
where did krogan go?
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November 07 2017 15:39 GMT
#1338
Damdred, and he's making me regret it
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November 07 2017 15:43 GMT
#1339
although he has personal issues so like not personally regret it ofc
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November 07 2017 18:14 GMT
#1352
Damdred can I get thoughts on Rux?
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November 07 2017 18:34 GMT
#1354
On November 08 2017 03:30 Damdred wrote:
Honestly I think rux is town, countereagon to ticktock who was godfather.

Tone has been decent, and has seemed to try to solve the game. Tgis sort of thing where you assume both wagons are scum or bussing I think is really tired meh.


ty
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November 07 2017 20:06 GMT
#1357
maybe I'll just call zen scum again and vote him so he can come back to the thread
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November 08 2017 22:11 GMT
#1389
.. lol
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November 08 2017 22:12 GMT
#1390
I thought vote was at 6 PM
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November 08 2017 22:36 GMT
#1401
On November 09 2017 07:34 ritoky wrote:
conv we need to solve the game in the next 24 hrs. pls cum bak and help me.


damdred flipping mafia fucks all my reads up. if I’m going strictly by play I want to lynch happy/damerion though

I’m overtime today so I’ll be back layer
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November 09 2017 01:49 GMT
#1404
I’m back
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November 09 2017 02:19 GMT
#1405
lynch shockey
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November 09 2017 02:19 GMT
#1406
with fire
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November 09 2017 02:22 GMT
#1407
or damerion

idk idc im gonna die tmr anyways
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November 09 2017 02:38 GMT
#1408
guess it’s late for the euros

although everyone else is murica besides happy right?
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November 09 2017 04:10 GMT
#1413
you and shockeyy are scummy to me only b/c you two have the least interaction with damdred.

happy is afk, but idt he's mafia. haven't checked his filter too deeply, but not much into it.

no way mafia leaves me alive here though, so not bad. I'll read more tomorrow, way too tired today
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#1414
On November 09 2017 12:52 ritoky wrote:
i didn't check the rules, mafia has to shoot right? we ain't doin the bullshit stalemate rules where ppl no-lynch and no-shoot into oblivion right?


prob ask hosts
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November 09 2017 14:47 GMT
#1417
eh I'm kind of meh about Zen since I pushed him as scum and no one but rux seemed to care (although, I guess before Damdred flip it made sense not to per ritoky's logic)
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November 09 2017 17:29 GMT
#1418
so the nagging detail for me is I don't know if this was a coordinate, full bus by mafia or not

in the case that it is, it makes sense that Damerion wants to lynch Zen and Zen wants to lynch Damerion. Definitely good chance that it is a MvT here.

in the case that it isn't, it's a complete crapshoot for me as the lynches don't really give information. so IDK. someone tell me I'm wrong
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November 09 2017 17:41 GMT
#1421
On November 09 2017 15:42 happykrogan wrote:
Funny to wake up and See that I only voted town this game :/

If Mafia shots the jailkeeped person there is also no night kill, isn't it?
So he have to announce it last minute before flip and it is still not 100% sure because scum can probably guess who is going to be blocked.


I don't think mafia makes this kind of post, but who knows
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November 09 2017 17:42 GMT
#1422
On November 10 2017 02:37 ShoCkeyy wrote:
I also read Ruxx as town the whole game, while I think Rux read Zen as town, and Damerion as mafia.


if you're going by who pushed ruxx, it'd be zen over Damerionthough
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November 09 2017 17:43 GMT
#1423
On November 09 2017 07:22 The_Zen_Man wrote:
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On November 09 2017 07:15 ritoky wrote:
why would you just lynch your godfather out of the blue....i am so confused.


I'm pretty sure D1 lynch was a bus. TT being godfather might make it seem less likely as a bus. Also this makes me a lot more certain that Damerion is the last mafia.

But wtf, why did only 4 of us vote? Feel like I'm wasting my time here.


I find this post very amusing since you're not actually putting a lot of time into this game
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November 09 2017 19:36 GMT
#1425
On November 10 2017 04:32 ShoCkeyy wrote:
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On November 09 2017 06:57 ruXxar wrote:
Looks like I'm about to get lynched.
That's ok, the game should solved at this point.

Lynch in this order if you want to win.

Zen
Ritoky.


You always lynch zen next. Always.
Don't hesitate, just do it.



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On November 09 2017 04:40 ruXxar wrote:
Ok so I've read through tick tocks filter again and reached some conclusions.

Conclusion #1 is that I am confident that shockey is town.
Tick tock was pushing Shockey really hard most of the day, and cross at points in how they interacted.

Conclusion #2 is that I feel like damerion is likely town.
TT had a couple posts at EOD when we were without a votecount and he was struggling to get shenanigans going.
It felt like he was genuinly trying to find a target to latch onto or disperse votes from himself.
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On November 03 2017 05:58 Tictock wrote:
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On November 03 2017 03:44 Damerion wrote:
Hello,

I just woke up from my shift. As such I obviously have a lot of catching uo to do.

I have been trying to keep up with the thread right now and I am in the neighborhood of scum being in these five people.

Shockey/RuxXar/Ticktock/Zen

The fifth person I do not want to say quite yet as I do not want the gane to develop into a war if I am wrong.

But I feel like at least two mafia are in this group listed.

And as I filter dive I will place my vote on Shockey as a place holder.


Ugh besides mentioning Zen this is literally just Thread sentiment ATM minus DF. Pretty unimpressed.

I gotta eat and get moving, I'll try and fishing reading on the way, but I'm ok with my vote on DF.
On November 03 2017 06:34 Tictock wrote:
Am I totally OMGUS for wanting to lynch Damer now?

He literally shows up right at EoD with nothing really new to add. Suggests a Me + Zen team with Zen his more likely scum. Then wants to sheep Damdreds read on me?!?

I get that he is buddies with Damdre but Damdred has been so unimpressive this game.

Also can we get a vote count?



Conclusion #3 is that krogan is likely town.
There were a couple posts where TT was quite harsh on krogan. It does not seem fake to me.
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On November 01 2017 10:35 Tictock wrote:
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On November 01 2017 09:04 darthfoley wrote:
On November 01 2017 08:49 ruXxar wrote:
On November 01 2017 08:34 Damerion wrote:
On November 01 2017 08:28 ruXxar wrote:
On November 01 2017 08:17 Damerion wrote:
On November 01 2017 08:04 ruXxar wrote:
On November 01 2017 08:02 Damerion wrote:
##vote ShoCkeyy

I ask and expect you all to follow me on this.

@Damdred especially you.


Slow down hotshot.
When did you go from being mr waffly scum reader to becoming sherlock holmes?


Did the cohost of my first game forget the resounding hammer I put on the whole scum team?


You have good reads, I'll give you that.
You just gotta work on being more convincing.


No I need name recognition, if I had a larger name associated with me I would be followed much easier.

And if memory serves I did find scum last game a couple of times, just was to afk to oersue those links at the time.

In any case HolyFlare is also coming across disengenous at this point.


Name recognition help for sure, but it’s also about how you present yourself and your arguments.

Perfect example is Lonelyclock last game. A newbie, but very solid town-read with a lot of credibility.
Someone presenting themselves like that pushes a lot of weight around.

Don’t get me wrong, I like your more confident approach, but it’s throwing me off because it’s so different from previous games, and it’s also a bit too much over the top and appears a bit forced.


Worst post so far. Good chance of being scum


Actually DF I feel like Ruxx had just called out the worst post in this game.

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On November 01 2017 08:57 ruXxar wrote:
On November 01 2017 08:53 Conversion wrote:
On November 01 2017 08:34 Damerion wrote:
On November 01 2017 08:28 ruXxar wrote:
On November 01 2017 08:17 Damerion wrote:
On November 01 2017 08:04 ruXxar wrote:
On November 01 2017 08:02 Damerion wrote:
##vote ShoCkeyy

I ask and expect you all to follow me on this.

@Damdred especially you.


Slow down hotshot.
When did you go from being mr waffly scum reader to becoming sherlock holmes?


Did the cohost of my first game forget the resounding hammer I put on the whole scum team?


You have good reads, I'll give you that.
You just gotta work on being more convincing.


No I need name recognition, if I had a larger name associated with me I would be followed much easier.

And if memory serves I did find scum last game a couple of times, just was to afk to oersue those links at the time.

In any case HolyFlare is also coming across disengenous at this point.


nah actually I'm willing to blind follow you 100% after the last 2 games

you're not as good this game though so that's weird.also I never trust HF because he is a "big name" so that's a bad point

What’s that supposed to mean???


Last game I played with you DF I felt like we were so in tune, this game you are off in left field to me.

Well I do kinda agree with your Krogan read, that dude feels off to me. I don't get why Damdred seems to have a TR on him based off a weak open. All his posts feel super throwaway to me so far.

On November 01 2017 11:30 Tictock wrote:
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On November 01 2017 11:24 happykrogan wrote:
On November 01 2017 11:10 Conversion wrote:
On November 01 2017 11:09 happykrogan wrote:
On November 01 2017 10:55 Tictock wrote:
And I'm caught up.

I dislike Shokey calling out people who haven't posted yet this early in the game.

Also people should talk about this:
What do you make of HF voting Damer, the pressuring you for also thinking Damer might be mafia?


HF wasn't pressuring conv for thinking damer might be mafia. He pressured him because of the reasons he gave for disliking him weren't good.


and you haven't followed up with anything, either. What's your opinion on the thread so far? Am I scummy for acting similarly to my last game? What about Shockey? Is he clear lynch bait, or is he mafia? What's your opinion on the interactions between me, rux, and HF? What's your opinion on TicTock's string of posts, and the conclusion he comes from it?


true

Well I think your reasoning for disliking damerion seemed pretty forced. Like if you had to think of something because you got asked.

To the other things:
If I don't say anything about other things it usally means I have no opinon on them. I'm newbie so it is still hard for me to figure out how I interpret posts and I prefer to wait until more is said before I give hasty reads I change anyways.


The problem with this is that it feels like you are hanging off of HF's coattails since he was the one pushing the point you are making about Conv.

Holding back your thoughts is pretty much universally scummy. It leaves us less to read you off of and means you can tailor your reads easier later on to fit scum agenda.




More thoughts to come.


Are two good recent posts from Ruxxar.


is your conclusion then that you want to lynch zen over damerion?
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November 09 2017 20:24 GMT
#1429
idk if Damdred is playing scum, why would he attract so much attention to Damerion by saying how towny Damerion is, etc etc

On November 08 2017 01:15 Damdred wrote:
Just as a gut reaction its happy and zen for me.

Tgis whole shockeyy troope about how it makes him scum for killing hf is pretty bad.

Mafia wouldnt fake claim and then kill the person that was doing it, makes no logical sense in that regard. Idk what damer is doing there, his point about vote distancing is okish, but still lacks a bit of oomph.

I think Rit is town though, his and ruxxy reaction to the mod error felt genuine like town being got your lying ass.

So basically the last two mafia have to be in happy/damer/zen, and honestly i dont think zen and damer can be on teams


this is like the only interesting post I'm seeing in Damdy's filter
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United States3308 Posts
November 09 2017 21:34 GMT
#1435
26 minutes until I
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United States3308 Posts
November 09 2017 22:11 GMT
#1440
v. interesting that I didn't get shot

wouldn't put too much thought into it.
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United States3308 Posts
November 09 2017 22:12 GMT
#1442
Conv/happy/Damerion/Zen/Shock/ritoky

5-1

No idea why they wouldn't shoot here, as they have to shoot me regardless down the line. Assuming I get shot down the line and we mislynch, we're at 3-1 from a pool of:

happy/Damer/Zen/Shock/ritoky

who benefits from not shooting here the most?
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November 09 2017 22:19 GMT
#1445
nah mafia has a pretty good gain here in not shooting. whoever is last mafia probably has great confidence that I would not block the right person, so he holds the shot and we lynch whoever I blocked
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United States3308 Posts
November 09 2017 22:34 GMT
#1449
On November 10 2017 07:25 happykrogan wrote:
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On November 10 2017 07:19 Conversion wrote:
nah mafia has a pretty good gain here in not shooting. whoever is last mafia probably has great confidence that I would not block the right person, so he holds the shot and we lynch whoever I blocked


Didn't you block your top scumread?
Don't you think your topscumread could be mafia espellialy becuase no one died?


I blocked Zen. I'm saying, this COULD be a way to throw us off.

also damerion is now hardclaiming cop red check zen so
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November 09 2017 22:35 GMT
#1451
On November 10 2017 07:30 Damerion wrote:
n1: Check on Breshke slot
N2: Check on happy
n3: Check on Zen

Green, green, red


This would line up with who I blocked.

voting Zen. if he flips, lynch Damerion. no way Damerion makes a fake cop claim that could lead back to him if he's mafia
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United States3308 Posts
November 10 2017 00:36 GMT
#1463
oh so damerion is lying unless hosts screwed up
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United States3308 Posts
November 10 2017 00:43 GMT
#1464
or I’m lying but even then claiming cop is such a horrible trade should have just claimed jk and fought me for it
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United States3308 Posts
November 10 2017 00:43 GMT
#1465
like it doesn’t make sense that mafia!damerion would make that bad of a trade
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United States3308 Posts
November 10 2017 00:54 GMT
#1467
still shouldn’t have fake claimed blue.. I was going to say zen got blocked without your claim
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United States3308 Posts
November 10 2017 01:06 GMT
#1469
I didn’t want to say much bc my wording sucks when I’m
working and not thinking, but fair. Zen is a better lynch than you anyways. you have more to lose by lying than zen who just calls GG for being blocked
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United States3308 Posts
November 10 2017 01:48 GMT
#1473
im pretty sure mafia can no shot
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November 10 2017 14:38 GMT
#1480
On November 10 2017 23:08 The_Zen_Man wrote:
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On November 10 2017 09:43 Conversion wrote:
or I’m lying but even then claiming cop is such a horrible trade should have just claimed jk and fought me for it


I don't think anyone would believe him over you if he claimed jk. He would then have waited days after to counterclaim. I don't know what his plan was, probably just pure survival since it looked like it was likely he was next lynch. Maybe he could claim I was a miller when I flipped? It's a small chance but I think he was desperate at that point.


I mean I'm okay with a Damerion lynch, I just am not seeing the benefit in trying to fake-claim cop and getting you lynched if he's the sole mafia. It seems like it'll buy only one more day at most. if you flip town he gets autolynched.
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November 10 2017 16:41 GMT
#1482
his play would make more sense as mafia if we only have one lynch, but with two?

the other answer is that both of them are town and Damerion is just going all in while mafia no-shot and we lose once one of them flips town, but that seems like bad play
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November 10 2017 17:51 GMT
#1484
I'm saying logically mafia making this cop claim is bad, because the moment zen flips anything but red Damerion dies, if he is mafia.
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November 10 2017 19:22 GMT
#1486
On November 11 2017 04:16 ShoCkeyy wrote:
So we're willing to lynch what could be another townie? To see if damerion is red or not?


If damerion is 100% mafia in your eyes, then who cares. I don't think he's 100% mafia. I don't think even bad mafia players fake claim cop there without waiting for JK claim to see who he jailed. It's between Damerion and Zen, and if that's a TvT then Damerion can go into the list of worst town plays ever
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United States3308 Posts
November 10 2017 19:22 GMT
#1487
like what does mafia!damerion gain from fake claiming cop there? He could have waited until I said I JK'd Zen and afk voted him to a mislynch. why would he claim cop and rescind it?
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United States3308 Posts
November 10 2017 19:31 GMT
#1488
can someone explain this insanity to me like why would damerion ever fake claim cop if he was mafia
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United States3308 Posts
November 10 2017 19:46 GMT
#1490
I'm saying why would he ever say that as mafia? the smart move would be to noshot, wait until I claim to have blocked you (which I did), then go "no shot means zen is mafia, lynch." especially since no one thought to ask if mafia can no shot until this happened. there is way more risk in claiming cop than not claiming cop as scum, and all of you are suddenly making it scum indicative that he fake claimed cop
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United States3308 Posts
November 10 2017 19:46 GMT
#1491
[QUOTE]On November 11 2017 04:40 The_Zen_Man wrote:
[QUOTE]On November 11 2017 04:31 Conversion wrote:
can someone explain this insanity to me like why would damerion ever fake claim cop if he was mafia[/QUOTE]

Why would he fake claim as a town? It's a dumb move either way. If it is TvT however and you lynch both of us you lose.

I do want to point out that he was pretty interested in knowing who you blocked. He was screaming at you to block me all of N3 as well. So if he is mafia I think it would be very likely he no killed to cast suspicion on me.[/QUOTE]

he could have achieved this without fake claiming cop
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United States3308 Posts
November 10 2017 19:47 GMT
#1492
On November 11 2017 04:46 Conversion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 11 2017 04:40 The_Zen_Man wrote:
On November 11 2017 04:31 Conversion wrote:
can someone explain this insanity to me like why would damerion ever fake claim cop if he was mafia


Why would he fake claim as a town? It's a dumb move either way. If it is TvT however and you lynch both of us you lose.

I do want to point out that he was pretty interested in knowing who you blocked. He was screaming at you to block me all of N3 as well. So if he is mafia I think it would be very likely he no killed to cast suspicion on me.


he could have achieved this without fake claiming cop


EBWOP
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United States3308 Posts
November 11 2017 17:17 GMT
#1496
I’ve said my case so idk
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United States3308 Posts
November 11 2017 19:54 GMT
#1497
dam vs zen is prolly tvt and mafia is outside of it

should we just nolynch and bait another noshot/shot on me?
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United States3308 Posts
November 11 2017 21:00 GMT
#1502
I'm jailing outside of Dam/Zen most likely
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United States3308 Posts
November 11 2017 21:00 GMT
#1503
whoever I announce at the end of night if I die is conf town, lynch every1 else
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United States3308 Posts
November 11 2017 21:01 GMT
#1504
who do you think should be lynched today rit?
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United States3308 Posts
November 11 2017 21:15 GMT
#1507
the only problem with damerion being mafia is his suicidal fake-claim play. shock I can see

zen needs to be lynched with mechanics in play anyways, no idea why shock wants to read off of it. maybe to try and make himself look good once zen flips town? idk
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United States3308 Posts
November 11 2017 21:20 GMT
#1510
oh well.

we'll see how next night/day goes
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United States3308 Posts
November 11 2017 22:02 GMT
#1512
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Last Edited: 2017-11-11 22:09:55
November 11 2017 22:09 GMT
#1516
I finally got a scum read right.. double mafia bus yeesh.

gg everyone! sorry for the shit I pulled D1. need to wean off that shitty attitude/behavior
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United States3308 Posts
November 11 2017 22:44 GMT
#1523
yeah damdred prolly would have coasted to lylo
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