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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
November 02 2017 20:39 GMT
#641
On November 03 2017 05:35 Vivax wrote:
Coppola already called, he wants a movie with shockey as the protagonist cause he's so scum

Do you think rux is mafia?
No gg, No skill.
Damerion
Profile Joined September 2017
149 Posts
November 02 2017 20:40 GMT
#642
Before I head out I will say a couple of things.

Your correct in that it is hypocritical in the way I read people for fitting in with little effort. But juat because I also fit the profile does not mean that others also do not fit that criteria.

Making snide comments does not change the fact that my assessment is correct even if I have to fit the criteria myself.

Secondly I will not say that we should lynch Shockeyy today, he has been one if the more polarizing figures in d1, and it does feel at this point like scum are pretty ok with the lynch.

I really enjoy ny thoughts that Zen+Ticktock+one is the current team I am working with.

I believe we should lynch Ticktock with Damdred today, also its possibke RuxXar is the third with how he was ok with Ticktock but then switched when it was possible ticktock could be lynched.

ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
November 02 2017 20:40 GMT
#643
Here's a game from when I was scum with shockey:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/487093-mafia-in-the-himalayas?user=ShoCkeyy&view=all
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22106 Posts
November 02 2017 20:41 GMT
#644
On November 03 2017 05:39 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2017 05:35 Vivax wrote:
Coppola already called, he wants a movie with shockey as the protagonist cause he's so scum

Do you think rux is mafia?


I don't think much besides that shockey is obvious mafia. My literal strategy this game is to lynch mafia shockey D1, then skate by as confirmed town for the rest of the game. Reduces amount of effort and shitposting to a minimum, I do like efficiency.
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
November 02 2017 20:42 GMT
#645
On November 03 2017 05:40 Damerion wrote:
Before I head out I will say a couple of things.

Your correct in that it is hypocritical in the way I read people for fitting in with little effort. But juat because I also fit the profile does not mean that others also do not fit that criteria.

Making snide comments does not change the fact that my assessment is correct even if I have to fit the criteria myself.

Secondly I will not say that we should lynch Shockeyy today, he has been one if the more polarizing figures in d1, and it does feel at this point like scum are pretty ok with the lynch.

I really enjoy ny thoughts that Zen+Ticktock+one is the current team I am working with.

I believe we should lynch Ticktock with Damdred today, also its possibke RuxXar is the third with how he was ok with Ticktock but then switched when it was possible ticktock could be lynched.



I'm still going to lynch tick tock. I just wanted to get vivax playing.
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
November 02 2017 20:44 GMT
#646
We had a late lynch rush at my morning job so I have shit for time today, basically just the next half hour and I need to eat lunch in that time as well. No time for filters, just gunna skim a bit.

This caught my eye:
On November 03 2017 01:32 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2017 01:19 Tictock wrote:
On November 03 2017 00:20 ShoCkeyy wrote:
I feel a bit odd about TT too, as some one who understands the amount of hours worked, I wouldn't come in posting my thoughts after each person's post in the thread, this caused him to change his view on the game all the time, something I feel like scum wouldn't even care about anyways.

I would of gathered my thoughts first on the overall conversation, and then provide quick bullets on each of the topics i wanted to discuss; Zen's big post here. I felt like TT was just trying to string together posts after each response in the thread to make it look like he was active, while letting his scum buddies do the rest when he's not available.


This is literally how I play every game.

I like to respond to things as soon as I read them else I feel like I will have a harder time recalling things later on.

And yes I always get called out for it as well.


And how many of those times were you actually scum? I'm not voting for you yet cause that's not an indication that you can be scum, but it definitely leans towards it. I don't care much for why you're voting for me, but if you're thinking I'm scum over the others that are very likely to be scum, then you obviously see the game differently.


First, in response. Hardly any, I think? I haven't been playing much mafia and I've only rolled Town in the past year. Probably an easy thing to check via the database.

Second, it occurres to me that scum!Shokey has everything to gain by pushing me here when there is clearly several people scum reading me and he is in danger of being lynched ATM.

##Unvote

Gunna put my vote on DF and try to catch up.
I can take that responsibility.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
November 02 2017 20:44 GMT
#647
On November 03 2017 05:42 ruXxar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2017 05:40 Damerion wrote:
Before I head out I will say a couple of things.

Your correct in that it is hypocritical in the way I read people for fitting in with little effort. But juat because I also fit the profile does not mean that others also do not fit that criteria.

Making snide comments does not change the fact that my assessment is correct even if I have to fit the criteria myself.

Secondly I will not say that we should lynch Shockeyy today, he has been one if the more polarizing figures in d1, and it does feel at this point like scum are pretty ok with the lynch.

I really enjoy ny thoughts that Zen+Ticktock+one is the current team I am working with.

I believe we should lynch Ticktock with Damdred today, also its possibke RuxXar is the third with how he was ok with Ticktock but then switched when it was possible ticktock could be lynched.



I'm still going to lynch tick tock. I just wanted to get vivax playing.

Clearly ninja voting him was totally gonna get him to play^^
No gg, No skill.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22106 Posts
November 02 2017 20:44 GMT
#648
On November 01 2017 10:39 Tictock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2017 09:20 ruXxar wrote:
On November 01 2017 09:08 Conversion wrote:
On November 01 2017 09:05 ruXxar wrote:
On November 01 2017 08:59 Conversion wrote:
On November 01 2017 08:57 ruXxar wrote:
On November 01 2017 08:53 Conversion wrote:
On November 01 2017 08:34 Damerion wrote:
On November 01 2017 08:28 ruXxar wrote:
On November 01 2017 08:17 Damerion wrote:
[quote]

Did the cohost of my first game forget the resounding hammer I put on the whole scum team?


You have good reads, I'll give you that.
You just gotta work on being more convincing.


No I need name recognition, if I had a larger name associated with me I would be followed much easier.

And if memory serves I did find scum last game a couple of times, just was to afk to oersue those links at the time.

In any case HolyFlare is also coming across disengenous at this point.


nah actually I'm willing to blind follow you 100% after the last 2 games

you're not as good this game though so that's weird.also I never trust HF because he is a "big name" so that's a bad point

What’s that supposed to mean???


oi don't red text me m8

he just seems weird throwing out all these soft reads. his usual play has been slam down hard with a big read that calls out 2/3 or 3/3 scum, but idk. maybe he's trying to be more active b/c he died last game because of it, but I don't like it


You’re saying he’s not as good when no one has flipped yet. It doesn’t make sense in the context you’re trying to appropriate to him.

You’re trying to measure his “good play” based on his posts rather than the result of his reads.

If his previous games reads had all been wrong, then you wouldn’t be calling his big read posts good.

Like.. I don’t see where you’re coming from.


it's what HF said before, why change up your playstyle when nothing was wrong with it to begin with? the only reason I can think of is he wants to avoid being lynched b/c of activity again, so he tries to throw out soft reads by looking active. I don't like that

if his big read posts in the previous games were off, then I can see why he's trying to change his playstyle

I don't think I'm being unclear, and have no idea why you're nitpicking at the point, so make that two of us that don't understand each other


Also, how is his read soft?
He straight up called shockey mafia, voted for him and asked people to follow him.


It scares me how much I find myself agreeing with Ruxx this game.


I can't exactly word why but this post comes from town 90 % of the time. It simply is a genuine approach to the game. Not voting TT.
Damerion
Profile Joined September 2017
149 Posts
November 02 2017 20:44 GMT
#649
Well good I am going to agree with Damdreds earlier assessment of TickTocks play and go along with him.

Ill be back afterwards around lynch time.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
November 02 2017 20:44 GMT
#650
On November 03 2017 05:40 Damerion wrote:
Before I head out I will say a couple of things.

Your correct in that it is hypocritical in the way I read people for fitting in with little effort. But juat because I also fit the profile does not mean that others also do not fit that criteria.

Making snide comments does not change the fact that my assessment is correct even if I have to fit the criteria myself.

Secondly I will not say that we should lynch Shockeyy today, he has been one if the more polarizing figures in d1, and it does feel at this point like scum are pretty ok with the lynch.

I really enjoy ny thoughts that Zen+Ticktock+one is the current team I am working with.

I believe we should lynch Ticktock with Damdred today, also its possibke RuxXar is the third with how he was ok with Ticktock but then switched when it was possible ticktock could be lynched.



Yes, it quite literally means that. If you are town and people are displaying the same characteristics as yourself then by definition it is possible that town do those things to so for you to assign that person a 70% chance to be mafia is arbitrary and illogical.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
November 02 2017 20:44 GMT
#651
On November 03 2017 05:44 Tictock wrote:
We had a late lynch rush at my morning job so I have shit for time today, basically just the next half hour and I need to eat lunch in that time as well. No time for filters, just gunna skim a bit.

This caught my eye:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2017 01:32 ShoCkeyy wrote:
On November 03 2017 01:19 Tictock wrote:
On November 03 2017 00:20 ShoCkeyy wrote:
I feel a bit odd about TT too, as some one who understands the amount of hours worked, I wouldn't come in posting my thoughts after each person's post in the thread, this caused him to change his view on the game all the time, something I feel like scum wouldn't even care about anyways.

I would of gathered my thoughts first on the overall conversation, and then provide quick bullets on each of the topics i wanted to discuss; Zen's big post here. I felt like TT was just trying to string together posts after each response in the thread to make it look like he was active, while letting his scum buddies do the rest when he's not available.


This is literally how I play every game.

I like to respond to things as soon as I read them else I feel like I will have a harder time recalling things later on.

And yes I always get called out for it as well.


And how many of those times were you actually scum? I'm not voting for you yet cause that's not an indication that you can be scum, but it definitely leans towards it. I don't care much for why you're voting for me, but if you're thinking I'm scum over the others that are very likely to be scum, then you obviously see the game differently.


First, in response. Hardly any, I think? I haven't been playing much mafia and I've only rolled Town in the past year. Probably an easy thing to check via the database.

Second, it occurres to me that scum!Shokey has everything to gain by pushing me here when there is clearly several people scum reading me and he is in danger of being lynched ATM.

##Unvote

Gunna put my vote on DF and try to catch up.

Put your vote.on rux
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
November 02 2017 20:45 GMT
#652
On November 03 2017 05:44 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2017 10:39 Tictock wrote:
On November 01 2017 09:20 ruXxar wrote:
On November 01 2017 09:08 Conversion wrote:
On November 01 2017 09:05 ruXxar wrote:
On November 01 2017 08:59 Conversion wrote:
On November 01 2017 08:57 ruXxar wrote:
On November 01 2017 08:53 Conversion wrote:
On November 01 2017 08:34 Damerion wrote:
On November 01 2017 08:28 ruXxar wrote:
[quote]

You have good reads, I'll give you that.
You just gotta work on being more convincing.


No I need name recognition, if I had a larger name associated with me I would be followed much easier.

And if memory serves I did find scum last game a couple of times, just was to afk to oersue those links at the time.

In any case HolyFlare is also coming across disengenous at this point.


nah actually I'm willing to blind follow you 100% after the last 2 games

you're not as good this game though so that's weird.also I never trust HF because he is a "big name" so that's a bad point

What’s that supposed to mean???


oi don't red text me m8

he just seems weird throwing out all these soft reads. his usual play has been slam down hard with a big read that calls out 2/3 or 3/3 scum, but idk. maybe he's trying to be more active b/c he died last game because of it, but I don't like it


You’re saying he’s not as good when no one has flipped yet. It doesn’t make sense in the context you’re trying to appropriate to him.

You’re trying to measure his “good play” based on his posts rather than the result of his reads.

If his previous games reads had all been wrong, then you wouldn’t be calling his big read posts good.

Like.. I don’t see where you’re coming from.


it's what HF said before, why change up your playstyle when nothing was wrong with it to begin with? the only reason I can think of is he wants to avoid being lynched b/c of activity again, so he tries to throw out soft reads by looking active. I don't like that

if his big read posts in the previous games were off, then I can see why he's trying to change his playstyle

I don't think I'm being unclear, and have no idea why you're nitpicking at the point, so make that two of us that don't understand each other


Also, how is his read soft?
He straight up called shockey mafia, voted for him and asked people to follow him.


It scares me how much I find myself agreeing with Ruxx this game.


I can't exactly word why but this post comes from town 90 % of the time. It simply is a genuine approach to the game. Not voting TT.

Vote rux you asshole
No gg, No skill.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
November 02 2017 20:46 GMT
#653
On November 03 2017 05:40 ruXxar wrote:
Here's a game from when I was scum with shockey:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/487093-mafia-in-the-himalayas?user=ShoCkeyy&view=all


This looks way more like trying to appease people and fit in than here.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
November 02 2017 20:47 GMT
#654
This is all why rux is mafia guys
No gg, No skill.
darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
November 02 2017 20:47 GMT
#655
On November 03 2017 05:44 Tictock wrote:
We had a late lynch rush at my morning job so I have shit for time today, basically just the next half hour and I need to eat lunch in that time as well. No time for filters, just gunna skim a bit.

This caught my eye:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2017 01:32 ShoCkeyy wrote:
On November 03 2017 01:19 Tictock wrote:
On November 03 2017 00:20 ShoCkeyy wrote:
I feel a bit odd about TT too, as some one who understands the amount of hours worked, I wouldn't come in posting my thoughts after each person's post in the thread, this caused him to change his view on the game all the time, something I feel like scum wouldn't even care about anyways.

I would of gathered my thoughts first on the overall conversation, and then provide quick bullets on each of the topics i wanted to discuss; Zen's big post here. I felt like TT was just trying to string together posts after each response in the thread to make it look like he was active, while letting his scum buddies do the rest when he's not available.


This is literally how I play every game.

I like to respond to things as soon as I read them else I feel like I will have a harder time recalling things later on.

And yes I always get called out for it as well.


And how many of those times were you actually scum? I'm not voting for you yet cause that's not an indication that you can be scum, but it definitely leans towards it. I don't care much for why you're voting for me, but if you're thinking I'm scum over the others that are very likely to be scum, then you obviously see the game differently.


First, in response. Hardly any, I think? I haven't been playing much mafia and I've only rolled Town in the past year. Probably an easy thing to check via the database.

Second, it occurres to me that scum!Shokey has everything to gain by pushing me here when there is clearly several people scum reading me and he is in danger of being lynched ATM.

##Unvote

Gunna put my vote on DF and try to catch up.


Lmao okay dude. @Krogan, you seem to have come around to my way of thinking regarding ruxx. Does this mean you're town reading me?
watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
November 02 2017 20:47 GMT
#656
It's interesting that he doesn't engage me anymore though
No gg, No skill.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22106 Posts
November 02 2017 20:48 GMT
#657
On November 01 2017 23:19 ruXxar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2017 22:55 happykrogan wrote:
On November 01 2017 22:37 Conversion wrote:
On November 01 2017 22:36 Conversion wrote:
the problemI have with the scumread of “DF is attacking anyone possible” is that he could have just saved himself the effort and pushed me exactly how he pushed me last game and most likely started a wagon. my play hasn’t differed too wildly (as pointed out by krogan), so why would he waste time throwing shade at other people when he has two very good lynch targets he can focus on (me/shockey)


EBWOP


The best explanation I can think of right now is that he doesn't want to follow thread sentiment because it could cause problems later in the game.


All my spermicidal evidence gathered suggests that tunneling is a town trait rather than a scum trait.


On November 01 2017 23:19 ruXxar wrote:
Empirical*


WTF LOL
darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
November 02 2017 20:49 GMT
#658
On November 03 2017 05:42 ruXxar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2017 05:40 Damerion wrote:
Before I head out I will say a couple of things.

Your correct in that it is hypocritical in the way I read people for fitting in with little effort. But juat because I also fit the profile does not mean that others also do not fit that criteria.

Making snide comments does not change the fact that my assessment is correct even if I have to fit the criteria myself.

Secondly I will not say that we should lynch Shockeyy today, he has been one if the more polarizing figures in d1, and it does feel at this point like scum are pretty ok with the lynch.

I really enjoy ny thoughts that Zen+Ticktock+one is the current team I am working with.

I believe we should lynch Ticktock with Damdred today, also its possibke RuxXar is the third with how he was ok with Ticktock but then switched when it was possible ticktock could be lynched.



I'm still going to lynch tick tock. I just wanted to get vivax playing.


Never understood the whole "I'm voting for this person and telling them I'm pressuring them, not because I think they're mafia strategy"

Might as well play poker and show your hand to the whole table
watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
November 02 2017 20:50 GMT
#659
On November 03 2017 01:52 ruXxar wrote:
In general it feels like you've just skimmed the thread and not actually taken the time to really understand the arguments that people have been making.

Would you say that is an accurate description?


No, but like I said earlier I wasn't trying to give super deep reads there. Was more of a general sense of where my head was at for each player. I felt like that would have been obvious with how I put out those reads.

I gave you a Town pass early on for those reasons and nothing since then has raised a flag in my mind about you. I've had better places to spend my limited time this game.
I can take that responsibility.
darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
November 02 2017 20:50 GMT
#660
On November 03 2017 05:47 Oatsmaster wrote:
It's interesting that he doesn't engage me anymore though


Who?

Also notice how Vixax has pivoted off of me when thread sentiment did so
watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
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