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On November 04 2017 09:31 happykrogan wrote:Show nested quote +On November 04 2017 09:30 Oatsmaster wrote:On November 04 2017 09:25 happykrogan wrote:On November 04 2017 09:24 happykrogan wrote:On November 04 2017 09:16 Oatsmaster wrote:On November 04 2017 09:15 Conversion wrote:
DF was pushing ruxx pretty hard, so maybe scum shot him to make us lynch ruxx for "information" to then lead into Oats lynch?
or one of ruxx/oats is mafia, and they're trying to make noise to lead us off DF's last posts? hmm Why would I kill DF? Why would I kill DF? He is townreading me and says you or ruxxar is scum which would be an easy mislynch if you are both town Because you think he's gonna change his mind No that's weak. I probably would have killed damdred who already found mafia.
Or medic dodge on someone who doesn't townreade me idk. I didn't think about who I would have killed because I'm not mafia
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On November 04 2017 08:50 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On November 01 2017 10:04 happykrogan wrote:Conversion is reacting to accusations exactly the same way like last game where he was mafia. Gets angry. Says he will go AFK because it is dumb but still posts at least a little bit after that. Also he is attacking his attacker On November 01 2017 09:31 Conversion wrote:On November 01 2017 08:52 ruXxar wrote:
What I’m trying to get at is if this is a one time thing or if this is the new confident you.
I’ll admit im a bit excited by the prospect. so ruxxar can post something that's useless like this, but the moment I say I don't like someone's playstyle b/c it rubs me the wrong way I get slammed on He also tried to let lonelyclock look bad in the newbie game. Can anyone who played more with him say if he defends himself as town this way too? ok so happy opens up with this as his first serious post. but after that, he doesnt really treat conversion as a scumread. Show nested quote +On November 01 2017 23:07 happykrogan wrote:On November 01 2017 22:59 Conversion wrote:On November 01 2017 22:55 happykrogan wrote:On November 01 2017 22:37 Conversion wrote:On November 01 2017 22:36 Conversion wrote:
the problemI have with the scumread of “DF is attacking anyone possible” is that he could have just saved himself the effort and pushed me exactly how he pushed me last game and most likely started a wagon. my play hasn’t differed too wildly (as pointed out by krogan), so why would he waste time throwing shade at other people when he has two very good lynch targets he can focus on (me/shockey) EBWOP The best explanation I can think of right now is that he doesn't want to follow thread sentiment because it could cause problems later in the game. The thing is, Shockey is the thread sentiment right now, I am not. People have me at a lazy null b/c they don't want to revisit my filter due to time or such, so it'd be a pretty safe push as a mafia. If I flip town, he could have said, "Well he was acting really scummy" or "I didn't like his tantrum/outburst" and no one would bat an eye until end game, really I think there are enough points on you that one could say he jumped on an easy lynch. Another possibility is of course that you are partners but I think he would bus you at least a little bit then. Look at the attitude here, its way too chill. then drops the scumread like its hot Show nested quote +On November 02 2017 18:18 happykrogan wrote:
If one of conv vs shockey is scum it is probably conversion.
But tbh I think it's tvt He also thinks that DF is mafia, but shows no hesitation jumping on Rux with DF as one of the main wagon pushers. after the lynch, he then clearly thinks that DF is town. Show nested quote +On November 03 2017 18:43 happykrogan wrote:
Darthfoley made some really good points about the possibility of ruxxar bussing.
I doubted it first after the flip nut it's actually pretty likely.
A vigshot would really help though.
I think there is no reasons not to shoot because in the OP it seems like he can shoot every night. Also he never talks to TT at all and his soft defence was interesting here. Show nested quote +On November 03 2017 01:56 happykrogan wrote:
I don't like ruxxars post. It says tt is scum because he doesn't make a super detailed list post. Show nested quote +On November 03 2017 02:03 happykrogan wrote:On November 02 2017 23:54 Damdred wrote:On November 02 2017 23:46 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Damdred any thoughts on the game so far? Thoughts on TT and Oats? TT has fallen for me, the fight he brusged off was somewhat interesting, his reads poat was lackluster, his tone was still ok thougj. He is someone who I sould consider lynching. You didn't said more about him than that his read posts lacked a bit. I don't know how he should interact with you about that. Show nested quote +On November 03 2017 02:09 happykrogan wrote:On November 03 2017 02:04 ruXxar wrote:
Why are you so defensive about TT krogan? I think your points are weak He doesnt commit to calling TT town but instead, chainsaws Rux Also makes sense that he would kill DF.
I changed my mind about conversion as he posted more. As I talked to "chill" to him I was already focusing on df and wanted to explain my points. He questioned my read so I tried to explain it.
Also why should I drop that "hot" read. He wasn't in danger of being lynched
I just realised how weak ruxxars poits on TT were in my opinion so I pointed them out. Which lead to checking ruxxar and scumreading me.
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On November 04 2017 09:39 happykrogan wrote:Show nested quote +On November 04 2017 08:50 Oatsmaster wrote:On November 01 2017 10:04 happykrogan wrote:Conversion is reacting to accusations exactly the same way like last game where he was mafia. Gets angry. Says he will go AFK because it is dumb but still posts at least a little bit after that. Also he is attacking his attacker On November 01 2017 09:31 Conversion wrote:On November 01 2017 08:52 ruXxar wrote:
What I’m trying to get at is if this is a one time thing or if this is the new confident you.
I’ll admit im a bit excited by the prospect. so ruxxar can post something that's useless like this, but the moment I say I don't like someone's playstyle b/c it rubs me the wrong way I get slammed on He also tried to let lonelyclock look bad in the newbie game. Can anyone who played more with him say if he defends himself as town this way too? ok so happy opens up with this as his first serious post. but after that, he doesnt really treat conversion as a scumread. On November 01 2017 23:07 happykrogan wrote:On November 01 2017 22:59 Conversion wrote:On November 01 2017 22:55 happykrogan wrote:On November 01 2017 22:37 Conversion wrote:On November 01 2017 22:36 Conversion wrote:
the problemI have with the scumread of “DF is attacking anyone possible” is that he could have just saved himself the effort and pushed me exactly how he pushed me last game and most likely started a wagon. my play hasn’t differed too wildly (as pointed out by krogan), so why would he waste time throwing shade at other people when he has two very good lynch targets he can focus on (me/shockey) EBWOP The best explanation I can think of right now is that he doesn't want to follow thread sentiment because it could cause problems later in the game. The thing is, Shockey is the thread sentiment right now, I am not. People have me at a lazy null b/c they don't want to revisit my filter due to time or such, so it'd be a pretty safe push as a mafia. If I flip town, he could have said, "Well he was acting really scummy" or "I didn't like his tantrum/outburst" and no one would bat an eye until end game, really I think there are enough points on you that one could say he jumped on an easy lynch. Another possibility is of course that you are partners but I think he would bus you at least a little bit then. Look at the attitude here, its way too chill. then drops the scumread like its hot On November 02 2017 18:18 happykrogan wrote:
If one of conv vs shockey is scum it is probably conversion.
But tbh I think it's tvt He also thinks that DF is mafia, but shows no hesitation jumping on Rux with DF as one of the main wagon pushers. after the lynch, he then clearly thinks that DF is town. On November 03 2017 18:43 happykrogan wrote:
Darthfoley made some really good points about the possibility of ruxxar bussing.
I doubted it first after the flip nut it's actually pretty likely.
A vigshot would really help though.
I think there is no reasons not to shoot because in the OP it seems like he can shoot every night. Also he never talks to TT at all and his soft defence was interesting here. On November 03 2017 01:56 happykrogan wrote:
I don't like ruxxars post. It says tt is scum because he doesn't make a super detailed list post. On November 03 2017 02:03 happykrogan wrote:On November 02 2017 23:54 Damdred wrote:On November 02 2017 23:46 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Damdred any thoughts on the game so far? Thoughts on TT and Oats? TT has fallen for me, the fight he brusged off was somewhat interesting, his reads poat was lackluster, his tone was still ok thougj. He is someone who I sould consider lynching. You didn't said more about him than that his read posts lacked a bit. I don't know how he should interact with you about that. On November 03 2017 02:09 happykrogan wrote:On November 03 2017 02:04 ruXxar wrote:
Why are you so defensive about TT krogan? I think your points are weak He doesnt commit to calling TT town but instead, chainsaws Rux Also makes sense that he would kill DF. I changed my mind about conversion as he posted more. As I talked to "chill" to him I was already focusing on df and wanted to explain my points. He questioned my read so I tried to explain it. Also why should I drop that "hot" read. He wasn't in danger of being lynched I just realised how weak ruxxars poits on TT were in my opinion so I pointed them out. Which lead to checking ruxxar and scumreading him.
EBWOP
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On November 04 2017 09:45 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On November 04 2017 09:39 happykrogan wrote:On November 04 2017 08:50 Oatsmaster wrote:On November 01 2017 10:04 happykrogan wrote:Conversion is reacting to accusations exactly the same way like last game where he was mafia. Gets angry. Says he will go AFK because it is dumb but still posts at least a little bit after that. Also he is attacking his attacker On November 01 2017 09:31 Conversion wrote:On November 01 2017 08:52 ruXxar wrote:
What I’m trying to get at is if this is a one time thing or if this is the new confident you.
I’ll admit im a bit excited by the prospect. so ruxxar can post something that's useless like this, but the moment I say I don't like someone's playstyle b/c it rubs me the wrong way I get slammed on He also tried to let lonelyclock look bad in the newbie game. Can anyone who played more with him say if he defends himself as town this way too? ok so happy opens up with this as his first serious post. but after that, he doesnt really treat conversion as a scumread. On November 01 2017 23:07 happykrogan wrote:On November 01 2017 22:59 Conversion wrote:On November 01 2017 22:55 happykrogan wrote:On November 01 2017 22:37 Conversion wrote:On November 01 2017 22:36 Conversion wrote:
the problemI have with the scumread of “DF is attacking anyone possible” is that he could have just saved himself the effort and pushed me exactly how he pushed me last game and most likely started a wagon. my play hasn’t differed too wildly (as pointed out by krogan), so why would he waste time throwing shade at other people when he has two very good lynch targets he can focus on (me/shockey) EBWOP The best explanation I can think of right now is that he doesn't want to follow thread sentiment because it could cause problems later in the game. The thing is, Shockey is the thread sentiment right now, I am not. People have me at a lazy null b/c they don't want to revisit my filter due to time or such, so it'd be a pretty safe push as a mafia. If I flip town, he could have said, "Well he was acting really scummy" or "I didn't like his tantrum/outburst" and no one would bat an eye until end game, really I think there are enough points on you that one could say he jumped on an easy lynch. Another possibility is of course that you are partners but I think he would bus you at least a little bit then. Look at the attitude here, its way too chill. then drops the scumread like its hot On November 02 2017 18:18 happykrogan wrote:
If one of conv vs shockey is scum it is probably conversion.
But tbh I think it's tvt He also thinks that DF is mafia, but shows no hesitation jumping on Rux with DF as one of the main wagon pushers. after the lynch, he then clearly thinks that DF is town. On November 03 2017 18:43 happykrogan wrote:
Darthfoley made some really good points about the possibility of ruxxar bussing.
I doubted it first after the flip nut it's actually pretty likely.
A vigshot would really help though.
I think there is no reasons not to shoot because in the OP it seems like he can shoot every night. Also he never talks to TT at all and his soft defence was interesting here. On November 03 2017 01:56 happykrogan wrote:
I don't like ruxxars post. It says tt is scum because he doesn't make a super detailed list post. On November 03 2017 02:03 happykrogan wrote:On November 02 2017 23:54 Damdred wrote:On November 02 2017 23:46 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Damdred any thoughts on the game so far? Thoughts on TT and Oats? TT has fallen for me, the fight he brusged off was somewhat interesting, his reads poat was lackluster, his tone was still ok thougj. He is someone who I sould consider lynching. You didn't said more about him than that his read posts lacked a bit. I don't know how he should interact with you about that. On November 03 2017 02:09 happykrogan wrote:On November 03 2017 02:04 ruXxar wrote:
Why are you so defensive about TT krogan? I think your points are weak He doesnt commit to calling TT town but instead, chainsaws Rux Also makes sense that he would kill DF. I changed my mind about conversion as he posted more. As I talked to "chill" to him I was already focusing on df and wanted to explain my points. He questioned my read so I tried to explain it. Also why should I drop that "hot" read. He wasn't in danger of being lynched I just realised how weak ruxxars poits on TT were in my opinion so I pointed them out. Which lead to checking ruxxar and scumreading me. You dropped the conversion read because it wasn't fancy anymore
I dropped the read because the bickering felt townie.
I scumread him out for being aggressive like last game. He saw that and stopped being aggressive. I think he would really pay attention not to do that again as scum.
My df read wasn't fancy so why did I made that? As a newb scum I would probably never attack a player as good as him if he's town.
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On November 04 2017 10:11 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On November 04 2017 09:56 happykrogan wrote:On November 04 2017 09:45 Oatsmaster wrote:On November 04 2017 09:39 happykrogan wrote:On November 04 2017 08:50 Oatsmaster wrote:On November 01 2017 10:04 happykrogan wrote:Conversion is reacting to accusations exactly the same way like last game where he was mafia. Gets angry. Says he will go AFK because it is dumb but still posts at least a little bit after that. Also he is attacking his attacker On November 01 2017 09:31 Conversion wrote:On November 01 2017 08:52 ruXxar wrote:
What I’m trying to get at is if this is a one time thing or if this is the new confident you.
I’ll admit im a bit excited by the prospect. so ruxxar can post something that's useless like this, but the moment I say I don't like someone's playstyle b/c it rubs me the wrong way I get slammed on He also tried to let lonelyclock look bad in the newbie game. Can anyone who played more with him say if he defends himself as town this way too? ok so happy opens up with this as his first serious post. but after that, he doesnt really treat conversion as a scumread. On November 01 2017 23:07 happykrogan wrote:On November 01 2017 22:59 Conversion wrote:On November 01 2017 22:55 happykrogan wrote:On November 01 2017 22:37 Conversion wrote:On November 01 2017 22:36 Conversion wrote:
the problemI have with the scumread of “DF is attacking anyone possible” is that he could have just saved himself the effort and pushed me exactly how he pushed me last game and most likely started a wagon. my play hasn’t differed too wildly (as pointed out by krogan), so why would he waste time throwing shade at other people when he has two very good lynch targets he can focus on (me/shockey) EBWOP The best explanation I can think of right now is that he doesn't want to follow thread sentiment because it could cause problems later in the game. The thing is, Shockey is the thread sentiment right now, I am not. People have me at a lazy null b/c they don't want to revisit my filter due to time or such, so it'd be a pretty safe push as a mafia. If I flip town, he could have said, "Well he was acting really scummy" or "I didn't like his tantrum/outburst" and no one would bat an eye until end game, really I think there are enough points on you that one could say he jumped on an easy lynch. Another possibility is of course that you are partners but I think he would bus you at least a little bit then. Look at the attitude here, its way too chill. then drops the scumread like its hot On November 02 2017 18:18 happykrogan wrote:
If one of conv vs shockey is scum it is probably conversion.
But tbh I think it's tvt He also thinks that DF is mafia, but shows no hesitation jumping on Rux with DF as one of the main wagon pushers. after the lynch, he then clearly thinks that DF is town. On November 03 2017 18:43 happykrogan wrote:
Darthfoley made some really good points about the possibility of ruxxar bussing.
I doubted it first after the flip nut it's actually pretty likely.
A vigshot would really help though.
I think there is no reasons not to shoot because in the OP it seems like he can shoot every night. Also he never talks to TT at all and his soft defence was interesting here. On November 03 2017 01:56 happykrogan wrote:
I don't like ruxxars post. It says tt is scum because he doesn't make a super detailed list post. On November 03 2017 02:03 happykrogan wrote:On November 02 2017 23:54 Damdred wrote:On November 02 2017 23:46 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Damdred any thoughts on the game so far? Thoughts on TT and Oats? TT has fallen for me, the fight he brusged off was somewhat interesting, his reads poat was lackluster, his tone was still ok thougj. He is someone who I sould consider lynching. You didn't said more about him than that his read posts lacked a bit. I don't know how he should interact with you about that. On November 03 2017 02:09 happykrogan wrote:On November 03 2017 02:04 ruXxar wrote:
Why are you so defensive about TT krogan? I think your points are weak He doesnt commit to calling TT town but instead, chainsaws Rux Also makes sense that he would kill DF. I changed my mind about conversion as he posted more. As I talked to "chill" to him I was already focusing on df and wanted to explain my points. He questioned my read so I tried to explain it. Also why should I drop that "hot" read. He wasn't in danger of being lynched I just realised how weak ruxxars poits on TT were in my opinion so I pointed them out. Which lead to checking ruxxar and scumreading me. You dropped the conversion read because it wasn't fancy anymore I dropped the read because the bickering felt townie. I scumread him out for being aggressive like last game. He saw that and stopped being aggressive. I think he would really pay attention not to do that again as scum. My df read wasn't fancy so why did I made that? As a newb scum I would probably never attack a player as good as him if he's town. Wait so he stopped being aggressive this game after you scumread him for it. Doesn't that make it more scummy?
He got aggressive again in the conversation with shockey
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On November 04 2017 09:56 happykrogan wrote:
My df read wasn't fancy so why did I made that? As a newb scum I would probably never attack a player as good as him if he's town.
Anything to say about that?
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On November 04 2017 16:02 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On November 04 2017 10:23 happykrogan wrote:On November 04 2017 09:56 happykrogan wrote:
My df read wasn't fancy so why did I made that? As a newb scum I would probably never attack a player as good as him if he's town. Anything to say about that? He was playing pretty differently from the last game, easy read that half the game made
Do you remember who was the first one to make that read?
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On November 04 2017 07:07 happykrogan wrote:
I guess df's dead means either rux or oats is scum?
I think this is true because if ruxxar is town oats is trying to set up two mislynches right now. First rux than after he flips me.
Right now I still think ruxxar is more likely mafia so I vote him but it's close.
I plan to reread both filters before deadline and decide again then.
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On November 05 2017 04:16 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On November 04 2017 20:09 happykrogan wrote:On November 04 2017 16:02 Oatsmaster wrote:On November 04 2017 10:23 happykrogan wrote:On November 04 2017 09:56 happykrogan wrote:
My df read wasn't fancy so why did I made that? As a newb scum I would probably never attack a player as good as him if he's town. Anything to say about that? He was playing pretty differently from the last game, easy read that half the game made Do you remember who was the first one to make that read? Me
On November 01 2017 13:07 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On November 01 2017 13:05 darthfoley wrote:On November 01 2017 12:56 Oatsmaster wrote:On November 01 2017 07:53 Damerion wrote:
Shockey has the worst entrance tone wise, he complains on what reads llike a thread that is having fun in the early going (to me reads like totally town uo to that point).
He then makes another post about hoping he has more posts to work with when he geta back without adding to the game himself.
I am above 50% that he is scum at this point. I am 100% you are scum ##vote dam oh hey look, it's the guy that did the same shit last game when he was scum Oh hey look, that's meta read off literally one post and literally not looking at my other games, just casually throwing shade. Same with rux.
this post?
Well you already moved away from the "read" and voted shockey before I scumread him
On November 01 2017 13:12 Oatsmaster wrote:
Although now that I think about it, you might have ptsd from the last game and are just irrantionaly scared
And this doesn't seem like a scumread
And after my read he became thread sentiment
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On November 06 2017 01:51 Oatsmaster wrote:
but happykrogan seems like he really thinks that tt flipping mafia makes rux mafia.
That's wrong and I don't know why you are thinking that.
I think he is mafia for being opprtunistic and I think the df kill points to him (or if he's town to you).
After the TT flip I doubted that he bussed until df made some good arguments.
On November 03 2017 18:43 happykrogan wrote:
Darthfoley made some really good points about the possibility of ruxxar bussing.
I doubted it first after the flip nut it's actually pretty likely.
A vigshot would really help though.
I think there is no reasons not to shoot because in the OP it seems like he can shoot every night.
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On November 06 2017 02:37 ruXxar wrote:Show nested quote +On November 06 2017 02:09 happykrogan wrote:On November 06 2017 01:51 Oatsmaster wrote:
but happykrogan seems like he really thinks that tt flipping mafia makes rux mafia.
That's wrong and I don't know why you are thinking that. I think he is mafia for being opprtunistic and I think the df kill points to him (or if he's town to you). After the TT flip I doubted that he bussed until df made some good arguments. On November 03 2017 18:43 happykrogan wrote:
Darthfoley made some really good points about the possibility of ruxxar bussing.
I doubted it first after the flip nut it's actually pretty likely.
A vigshot would really help though.
I think there is no reasons not to shoot because in the OP it seems like he can shoot every night. Can you explain in your own words why you think I’m madia?
Did that day1
Not much changed since then.
On November 06 2017 02:46 Oatsmaster wrote:
Why would rux kill DF and not me if he's mafia?
Maybe he think he's more dangerous. (yeah you were louder in the rux lynch but there is still a 3rd mafia)
But i don't have an answer that can really convince myself
Could actually be that I was biased towards ruxxar because I already scumread him d1
I switch to you.
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If shockey dies now and ruxxar says mafia killed him so he couldn't answer his question and then pushes me he is 100% scum.
But even if not
If I still live in the "one of oats or rux is mafia" world I will vote him tomorrow anyways - and I think I still do
Also ritoky can be his scumpartner. I have no problems with him dying tomorrow.
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Ritoky did you read the whole game?
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I don't think HF flipping vig makes shockey scum. I guess I believe him.
And yes I still have my scumread from d1. Didn't see a good reason too change it. Both nightkills make sense when there was a bus.
And both nightkills didn't like you.
Also your zen progression was super strange. Scumread him. Believing him and unvote. Scumread him again without new information.
And pushing shockey is opportunistic again. A very easy mislynch.
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Maybe I'm making it to easy for myself because I don't have too much time right now, but I don't see a reason not to vote for you.
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Funny to wake up and See that I only voted town this game :/
If Mafia shots the jailkeeped person there is also no night kill, isn't it?
So he have to announce it last minute before flip and it is still not 100% sure because scum can probably guess who is going to be blocked.
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On November 10 2017 07:19 Conversion wrote:
nah mafia has a pretty good gain here in not shooting. whoever is last mafia probably has great confidence that I would not block the right person, so he holds the shot and we lynch whoever I blocked
Didn't you block your top scumread?
Don't you think your topscumread could be mafia espellialy becuase no one died?
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On November 10 2017 07:30 Damerion wrote:
n1: Check on Breshke slot
N2: Check on happy
n3: Check on Zen
Green, green, red
##vote The_Zen_Men
There is a godfather so I trust you.
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On November 10 2017 07:37 The_Zen_Man wrote:Show nested quote +On November 10 2017 07:30 Damerion wrote:
n1: Check on Breshke slot
N2: Check on happy
n3: Check on Zen
Green, green, red Yeah, I don't believe this. You had me as your number 1 scum-read but check me on N3? Also, you don't claim 22.59 during night but instead right after night is finished. You are the last scum and this is just a last attempt at surviving. I'm gonna vote for you. If Damer flips blue you guys can just turbolynch me afterwards.
You voted wrong again.
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