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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
October 16 2017 23:11 GMT
#914
On October 17 2017 07:55 ruXxar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2017 07:25 Oatsmaster wrote:
On October 17 2017 07:03 ruXxar wrote:
On October 17 2017 06:49 Oatsmaster wrote:
Where did everyone go. What the heck man


What do you want oats?

Let's talk about damdred. Why do you think he is town other than voting for scum?



Not only did damdred vote for scum, he could've voted off wagon and nobody would've blamed him.

He literally called both conversion and damerion town, so why would he bus either of them and risk their lynch when he couldve voted for anyone else.

Damdred is not stupid. He set himself up in a perfect situation to avoid voting for either conversion or damerion.

There was basically 0 towncred to gain for damdred when you take into account that if damdred is mafia, he does NOT want a conversion flip, and if conversion doesn't flip, there is no towncred to be gained.

Er looks like he got a pretty large amount of large amount of towncred from it, literally the only reason 2 people are calling him town.
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
October 16 2017 23:12 GMT
#915
What I'm saying is that if he is town, there should be other supporting evidence other than the vote, but all the supporting evidence shows that he's mafia.
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
October 17 2017 03:15 GMT
#919
On October 17 2017 12:10 MrLonelyClock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2017 05:49 Oatsmaster wrote:
On October 17 2017 05:19 MrLonelyClock wrote:
On October 17 2017 03:58 Oatsmaster wrote:
On October 17 2017 03:15 Holyflare wrote:
Why are people lynching damdred though?

Why aren't people lynching damdred?

Do you think there is no scum that voted on damerion (apart from conv)? You think they would let one member die day 1 to a lynch that could have been easily prevented by them?

I think that it's pointless to assume that mafia know how to play or don't know how to play.

Literally so many games where mafia have done stupid shit that totally screwed town over when we assumed that they knew how to play. Same the other way around.

I disagree. If you assume scum is shit then we will surely lose. Assume scum knows what they are doing and if it turns out they don't then we will catch them eventually. Lynching somebody day 2 who helped lynch scum day 1 is not only a bad idea but a stupid one. There are 2 scum left so take Damdred out of the equation for today and focus on everyone else.

Lol I'm not saying assume scum is shit. I'm saying don't assume anything. Which is what everyone is doing.

Other than your obvious bias, what can you say about damdred that is town?
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
October 17 2017 05:13 GMT
#926
On October 17 2017 13:07 Damdred wrote:

As for the charge i am not figuring the game out, i figured it out enough to vote scum out. So score one for me bitches. (most loving manner possible)


I cant believe that you believe that it makes you town.
Thats ridiculous
##vote FF
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
October 17 2017 05:14 GMT
#927
On October 17 2017 12:16 MrLonelyClock wrote:
Also this afk stuff by so many players is annoying as heck. It's so dead compared to Day 1 and it's less than 18 till lynch. Speak up townies, we need to get a good scum lynch again.

So are you confident or not confident in your reads? Cause this reads like you really really want affirmation from other people. Which is unusual
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
October 17 2017 05:34 GMT
#929
On October 17 2017 14:26 MrLonelyClock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2017 14:14 Oatsmaster wrote:
On October 17 2017 12:16 MrLonelyClock wrote:
Also this afk stuff by so many players is annoying as heck. It's so dead compared to Day 1 and it's less than 18 till lynch. Speak up townies, we need to get a good scum lynch again.

So are you confident or not confident in your reads? Cause this reads like you really really want affirmation from other people. Which is unusual

Confident. Just no1 is really around but 5-6 people atm.

As an aside does anybody know if coolTLname afk's again if he will get kicked or replaced or something?

he should be replaced.

Look, im not saying that people off the wagon are town, im saying dont give a free pass to people JUST because they are on the wagon.

Also FF is super scum lol
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
October 17 2017 06:28 GMT
#932
On October 17 2017 15:26 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2017 14:13 Oatsmaster wrote:
On October 17 2017 13:07 Damdred wrote:

As for the charge i am not figuring the game out, i figured it out enough to vote scum out. So score one for me bitches. (most loving manner possible)


I cant believe that you believe that it makes you town.
Thats ridiculous
##vote FF


????

So damdred is super scummy and you complain everyone is falling for his bussing strategies and when he just reiterated the point you're making you vote ff??

He obviously isnt getting lynched today dude. Come on, you can read thread sentiment
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
October 17 2017 06:29 GMT
#933
On October 17 2017 15:22 ruXxar wrote:
If he keeps helping town getting our preferred lynches through, then I don't see a reason why you wouldn't want keep him around.

Because I think hes mafia??!?
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
October 17 2017 06:29 GMT
#934
Like literally his defence is "nah dude im town you're wrong"
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
October 17 2017 06:31 GMT
#935
On October 16 2017 10:59 Fecalfeast wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2017 08:40 Damdred wrote:
I sort of want a wagon on me to build so i can shatter it.

Sure thing boss

##vote damdred

On October 16 2017 10:58 Fecalfeast wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2017 08:20 MrLonelyClock wrote:
On October 16 2017 08:11 Grackaroni wrote:
Actually I think we should kill Fecalfeast. His scum reads are all just the 3 people who took pressure yesterday plus he was one of the people on the Damerion wagon and I noticed this call out from Darthfoley.

On October 14 2017 07:17 darthfoley wrote:
Okay, so i really like happykrogan guy. Which makes me also like HF, because he drew the same conclusion that I did: I doubt a newbie like krogan would be this active and not be afraid to call someone out as first time mafia.

I think ruxxar is town, but I can understand why people-- especially new players-- might interpret his play as mafia. I also think Oats is more likely town than not. He was one of the first players to get the game moving, and I like his pressure on the LonelyClock dude. Still waiting for an answer on this, I think

On October 13 2017 15:34 Oatsmaster wrote:
On October 13 2017 14:49 MrLonelyClock wrote:

I agreed about ruxxar posting fluff. Me voting on ruxxar != me thinking he is mafia atm. But I can see how you could come to that conclusion now. I guess we will have to disagree on the counterpoints validity.


So why are you voting for him?


Don't like Damdred or FF right now.

FF:

On October 14 2017 00:15 Fecalfeast wrote:
Like I said early on, ruxxar is trying too hard


On October 14 2017 01:52 Fecalfeast wrote:
Tbh i think ruxxar not giving a shit seems towny


This progression is odd and without any sort of explanation. The first post also doesn't say anything. People can try hard from either alignment.

Also strikes me as odd that he's scum reading Damerion for unearned town read on FF...

On October 14 2017 03:31 Fecalfeast wrote:
On October 14 2017 02:45 MrLonelyClock wrote:
fecal if you think ruxxar is towny then who do you think currently is the most scummy then (can be 1 or more)?

Damerion for giving me a town read for basocally no reason. Seems tmi to me


When Damdred has somehow managed to townread like 6 people and put them into "no lynch" pile just 24h into the game. Yet no mention of Damdred. It's like he doesn't exist.

Speaking of Damdred

On October 14 2017 03:21 Damdred wrote:
Ok, so I feel a little guilty at this point in time and I will try to be tge old Damdred this game.

Fact check away on my reads this train aint got no breaks and i aint got time to quote on phone.

Town Reads:

Damerion, he has this thing he does as town where he will have this skrt of mission statement about how he will approach the game. He has checked that, he gives clear concise reada with hard reasoning behind it, done. He also seems to try to draw people into conversation instead of existing.

Rux rux baby: Off the cuff read, the eay he responds to the pressure is town. Does t care, tries to be helpful and then establishes where he wants to be in the game. I think hes just going to be town for the tone and the lressure, but his reads were not bad.

If anyone tries to lynch rux at least today I will let slip the dogs of war and create chaos.

FF: Hey buddy we should work together, care free attitude. Gives some opinions still a bit weak on a few points, overall would not kynch today.

Gracky: Posts his thoughts, goes against thread sentiment a post or two ago. Seems to be looking where others dont, no lynch today.

Oats: Seemed to be reading the game a d his lressure wasnt horrid. It is defi ately not top town worthy but enough for a pass.

Xenon and nylonelylock are both town i feel for how they approached the game as newbs. Meh they were soitting fire earlier

Everyone else is in this null range besides hf who I love dearly but am ignoring until he wants cuddles.


Besides the fact that Damdred has only given vague town/null leans on virtually every active player, one read sticks out to me as more scummy than others. Damdred's read on FF feels fabricated. FF "gives some opinions" but FF is "weak on a few points" yet Damdred would still not lynch him today. He never specifies what points he's weak on, doesn't try to follow up with FF and clarify those "weak points." Talk about an unearned town read.

So I have no idea why FF isn't scum reading Damdred considering his self imposed criteria regarding Damerion.



In the last game FF slipped by carelessly saying that he would just sheep HF without noticing that HF was pushing somebody he was town reading. He went from calling Ruxxar scum for trying too hard to calling him town because he doesn't give a shit in an hour, and it was around the time people's opinion of Ruxxar seemed to be shifting.

Important to note that DF says that he doesn't like Damdred giving a free town read on FF and FF doesn't even mention Damdred in his posts. Quite peculiar interaction there indeed.

I would lynch damdred

On October 17 2017 00:30 Fecalfeast wrote:
Ya ok damdred isn't scum I'll just vote damerion again last vame he was 3/3 on scum by day 2 and today nothing afaict

On October 17 2017 07:42 Fecalfeast wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2017 07:31 Oatsmaster wrote:
Why don't you think damdred is mafia anymore? And do you have other reasons for damerion being mafia other than that he is wrong?

He voted mafia and I think that should give him a free pass.

Damerion isn't a force to be reckoned with this game compared to his relentless pushing last game. Maybe it's because I wason the receiving end of it last game but this game he feels soft.

On October 17 2017 12:06 Fecalfeast wrote:
Aight I could sheep to damdred then if you feel that strongly about it

No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
October 17 2017 06:31 GMT
#936
thats all I have to say about that
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
October 17 2017 18:18 GMT
#962
On October 18 2017 02:47 Damdred wrote:

Gracky is being weird today a bit, Oats is being suoer aggro and a few people are afk. So sorry I dont get the warm fuzzies from a run away wagon

who is gracky?
So sorry you dont feel interested in actually finding an alternative wagon to lynch if you are so unhappy with this one
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
October 17 2017 18:25 GMT
#964
lol totally forgot he was in the game.

Interesting that he gives damerion a town read but doesnt give any weight to the fact that he didnt vote to save himself. But instead its some weirdass tone read.
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
October 17 2017 18:41 GMT
#968
On October 18 2017 03:38 Damdred wrote:
What srt of alternative wagon are you interested in me starting here?

Grack had a certain scum team in mind, flipped his read when hf really starts pushing. His read on damerion looks tmi.

Plus would be funny if dameriom caught him twice.

Dude, you said you are uninterested in current wagon so logically, you gotta be interested in another wagon right?????
So you wanna lynch grack today orrrrr?
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
October 17 2017 18:42 GMT
#969
On October 18 2017 03:40 Damdred wrote:
Honestly if i had to put just a list of people id lynch i to

Grack, Onegu and Xenon would be the three id be most interested in.

talk about xennon
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
October 17 2017 19:53 GMT
#972
On October 18 2017 04:39 Damerion wrote:
Hello,

I am finally free of work for a short period of time. So here I am.

Firstly I was doing a short reread of the game and something caught my attention that I am trying to make heads or tales of.

@Damdred, Oatsmaster, RuxXar would like you threes thiughts specifically.

Grackaroni has started the game with a case on Oatsmaster. Conversion fires back and lists a couple of games that Oatsmaster was town in.

This exchange got me to thinking on three possibilities,

1) Conversion was trying to hard defend for Oatsmaster, and they are partners together.

2) With the ease of which the conversation goes it was a planned exchange and it was to have some form of link/disagreement that would throw people off that they could be scum together.

3) Just confirmed Oatsmaster as town for no reason


Right now with how the conversation led almost anywhere, and with the coversation ending without Conversion really having no real read on Grackaroni himself I personally am leaning towards two amd three at the same time.

You want me to make a conclusion on conversions interaction with grack?

How about you weigh in on today's lynch?
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
October 17 2017 19:54 GMT
#973
On October 18 2017 04:02 Damdred wrote:
hrm, his night posts seemed like he was just trying to be active. He also seems to be leading to the conclusion that Damerion should be scum based on conversion not being afk which would seem to be pointing towards him letting the lynch happened.

Really his conclussions he comes to feel forced and his votes do not make a lot of sense with what he was saying.


Alright, I can understand this even if I don't agree with it
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
October 17 2017 20:01 GMT
#975
Meh I have no opinion, I don't think it meant anything either way for gracks alignment because there was nothing really risked by grack or conversion there in the sense that there wasn't really any pressure on me and a +1 by conversion wouldn't really have added to that pressure but a defence by conversion didn't risk anything for him either.
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
October 17 2017 20:02 GMT
#976
And for grack, it doesn't mean much that conversion disagreed with him because again, there was no pressure on me anyway.
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
October 17 2017 20:05 GMT
#977
So basically in my mind, it's not alignment indicative for grack that interaction with conversion.
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