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ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
August 27 2017 00:50 GMT
#1401
On August 27 2017 09:45 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2017 09:45 ruXxar wrote:
On August 27 2017 09:41 Vivax wrote:
Refusal to answer simple questions noted. Dodging the issue like skynx did.

I look forward to the feedback to this conversation from actual townies.

On August 27 2017 09:41 ruXxar wrote:
On August 27 2017 09:37 Vivax wrote:
On August 27 2017 09:35 ruXxar wrote:
On August 27 2017 09:30 Vivax wrote:
It pretty much means your reads stopped mattering the moment you made that accusation. Cause as mafia you couldn't make an accusation that still was consistent with your fake opinion on the game.

I made a correct call on Koshi and berated those lynching him for it and you tried to turn it into something that made me mafia while forgetting that the alternative would have been much more worse if you actually believed Artanis to be town.


My reads dont matter here. This is about you.

Your actions and your words are not in harmony.
Words are words and votes are votes.
The facts are you didnt save koshi when you had the full power to do so.


What would be your read on me if I lynched Artanis, Ruxxar?


Less scummy than it is now.


Now answer this:

On August 27 2017 09:38 ruXxar wrote:
On August 27 2017 09:32 Vivax wrote:
On August 27 2017 09:28 ruXxar wrote:
On August 27 2017 09:26 Vivax wrote:
On August 27 2017 09:21 ruXxar wrote:
On August 27 2017 09:14 Vivax wrote:
If I spend my saturdays out with friends after I left the game expecting everyone to have the information needed to lynch skynx, then I don't need to feel guilty for anything. I did my work for the day by the time I left the thread.

On August 27 2017 08:39 ruXxar wrote:
On August 27 2017 08:32 Vivax wrote:
You lynched Koshi? Gratz.

I was expecting skynx to die 100 % when I posted the tomb stone. Instead you lynched the guy with the huge D1 filter for some bad reasons I kept pointing out.

Tomorrow Skynx, Oats or Ruxxar please. Off chance that in the case of Oats I'm just lynching into stupid but I don't care much since he's just a hindrance to progressing the game if he's town with terribad reads and approach to the game. The other two are very likely mafia.

Other stuff:
Damdred is very likely town and has reads close to mine and he tried to save Koshi. I think by now he also made himself fairly readable as his D1 wasn't too active pre-Eod.
I think everyone should just sheep him (or me) and keep him close (~_^)


Did you also have a post like this prepared in case artanis got lynched?

In other words, this post is trash.

There was only 1 vote separating koshi from artanis lynch.
If only someone hadnt wasted his vote off wagon and instead tried to save koshi... hmm...


On August 26 2017 23:57 ruXxar wrote:
Heres my scummy people list:

Koshi.
Rayn.
Vivax.

Rayn joins the list for shitting up the thread with nitpicky accusations against skynx, trying to make him look like scum over details that don't mean jack.


On August 27 2017 06:34 ruXxar wrote:
Artanis joins the town circle.
His posting lately is top tier.


So you're accusing me of not lynching your top tier townread. Any more scum claims?


You couldve saved koshi.
You didnt.
And now youre bitchin koshi is dead.


So what? I did what I could to get people off Koshi. You're saying you'd rather had me lynch your top tier townread instead which is ridiculously scummy.


By voting off wagon? Sure


That doesn't answer anything.

Why are you saying I should rather have lynched your top town Ruxxar?


Why does my read on artanis have anything to do with what YOU shouldve done?



Not being in front of a computer doesn't make me mafia.


How is that answer related to the question?

1) You did not want to lynch koshi.
2) I am town reading artanis.

Your conclusion: You shouldnt lynch artanis because I think artanis is town?

???????
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22424 Posts
August 27 2017 00:53 GMT
#1402
On August 27 2017 09:50 ruXxar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2017 09:45 Vivax wrote:
On August 27 2017 09:45 ruXxar wrote:
On August 27 2017 09:41 Vivax wrote:
Refusal to answer simple questions noted. Dodging the issue like skynx did.

I look forward to the feedback to this conversation from actual townies.

On August 27 2017 09:41 ruXxar wrote:
On August 27 2017 09:37 Vivax wrote:
On August 27 2017 09:35 ruXxar wrote:
On August 27 2017 09:30 Vivax wrote:
It pretty much means your reads stopped mattering the moment you made that accusation. Cause as mafia you couldn't make an accusation that still was consistent with your fake opinion on the game.

I made a correct call on Koshi and berated those lynching him for it and you tried to turn it into something that made me mafia while forgetting that the alternative would have been much more worse if you actually believed Artanis to be town.


My reads dont matter here. This is about you.

Your actions and your words are not in harmony.
Words are words and votes are votes.
The facts are you didnt save koshi when you had the full power to do so.


What would be your read on me if I lynched Artanis, Ruxxar?


Less scummy than it is now.


Now answer this:

On August 27 2017 09:38 ruXxar wrote:
On August 27 2017 09:32 Vivax wrote:
On August 27 2017 09:28 ruXxar wrote:
On August 27 2017 09:26 Vivax wrote:
On August 27 2017 09:21 ruXxar wrote:
On August 27 2017 09:14 Vivax wrote:
If I spend my saturdays out with friends after I left the game expecting everyone to have the information needed to lynch skynx, then I don't need to feel guilty for anything. I did my work for the day by the time I left the thread.

On August 27 2017 08:39 ruXxar wrote:
[quote]

Did you also have a post like this prepared in case artanis got lynched?

In other words, this post is trash.

There was only 1 vote separating koshi from artanis lynch.
If only someone hadnt wasted his vote off wagon and instead tried to save koshi... hmm...


On August 26 2017 23:57 ruXxar wrote:
Heres my scummy people list:

Koshi.
Rayn.
Vivax.

Rayn joins the list for shitting up the thread with nitpicky accusations against skynx, trying to make him look like scum over details that don't mean jack.


On August 27 2017 06:34 ruXxar wrote:
Artanis joins the town circle.
His posting lately is top tier.


So you're accusing me of not lynching your top tier townread. Any more scum claims?


You couldve saved koshi.
You didnt.
And now youre bitchin koshi is dead.


So what? I did what I could to get people off Koshi. You're saying you'd rather had me lynch your top tier townread instead which is ridiculously scummy.


By voting off wagon? Sure


That doesn't answer anything.

Why are you saying I should rather have lynched your top town Ruxxar?


Why does my read on artanis have anything to do with what YOU shouldve done?



Not being in front of a computer doesn't make me mafia.


How is that answer related to the question?

1) You did not want to lynch koshi.
2) I am town reading artanis.

Your conclusion: You shouldnt lynch artanis because I think artanis is town?

???????


Uhm, you are accusing me of being off wagon. I was off wagon cause I was afk, hence you are accusing me of being afk.
My conclusion is that you wouldn't have cared if Artanis got lynched, cause you are saying I should have lynched Artanis instead.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
August 27 2017 00:58 GMT
#1403
On August 27 2017 09:36 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2017 09:30 Oatsmaster wrote:
On August 27 2017 09:24 Vivax wrote:
On August 27 2017 09:00 Oatsmaster wrote:
On August 27 2017 08:32 Vivax wrote:
You lynched Koshi? Gratz.

I was expecting skynx to die 100 % when I posted the tomb stone. Instead you lynched the guy with the huge D1 filter for some bad reasons I kept pointing out.

Tomorrow Skynx, Oats or Ruxxar please. Off chance that in the case of Oats I'm just lynching into stupid but I don't care much since he's just a hindrance to progressing the game if he's town with terribad reads and approach to the game. The other two are very likely mafia.

Other stuff:
Damdred is very likely town and has reads close to mine and he tried to save Koshi. I think by now he also made himself fairly readable as his D1 wasn't too active pre-Eod.
I think everyone should just sheep him (or me) and keep him close (~_^)

You rather lynch into me, who you think is more likely to be town than Skynx and Rux huh.

Seems legit.


The problem is that I can't tell for sure if you're just terrible, or mafia yet cause so far your reads have been ridiculous.
If you are town, you'd make this game much easier if you just stopped being terrible and sheeped those who have more clue of what is going on. Pick a townie vet to sheep and stop being a distraction to obvious townies. If you are mafia, then I'm not surprised that you have such reads.

Summed up, I believe it's not impossible for you to be terrible town, but given your play so far, it's also not unlikely that you are mafia.

You're also still trying to push the notion that I'm mafia, and to top it off you still think that when you started scumreading Ruxxar? Me and Ruxxar are never mafia together this game.

Dude there have been 0 mafia flips.

Im sorry if I think that you arent worth sheeping. Also, who gives a shit about the teams when again, there are 0 mafia flips.


Am I mafia if Ruxxar flips scum, Oats?

Probably not
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
August 27 2017 00:59 GMT
#1404
Yeah I dont get where rux is going with this
No gg, No skill.
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
August 27 2017 01:01 GMT
#1405
On August 27 2017 09:53 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2017 09:50 ruXxar wrote:
On August 27 2017 09:45 Vivax wrote:
On August 27 2017 09:45 ruXxar wrote:
On August 27 2017 09:41 Vivax wrote:
Refusal to answer simple questions noted. Dodging the issue like skynx did.

I look forward to the feedback to this conversation from actual townies.

On August 27 2017 09:41 ruXxar wrote:
On August 27 2017 09:37 Vivax wrote:
On August 27 2017 09:35 ruXxar wrote:
On August 27 2017 09:30 Vivax wrote:
It pretty much means your reads stopped mattering the moment you made that accusation. Cause as mafia you couldn't make an accusation that still was consistent with your fake opinion on the game.

I made a correct call on Koshi and berated those lynching him for it and you tried to turn it into something that made me mafia while forgetting that the alternative would have been much more worse if you actually believed Artanis to be town.


My reads dont matter here. This is about you.

Your actions and your words are not in harmony.
Words are words and votes are votes.
The facts are you didnt save koshi when you had the full power to do so.


What would be your read on me if I lynched Artanis, Ruxxar?


Less scummy than it is now.


Now answer this:

On August 27 2017 09:38 ruXxar wrote:
On August 27 2017 09:32 Vivax wrote:
On August 27 2017 09:28 ruXxar wrote:
On August 27 2017 09:26 Vivax wrote:
On August 27 2017 09:21 ruXxar wrote:
On August 27 2017 09:14 Vivax wrote:
If I spend my saturdays out with friends after I left the game expecting everyone to have the information needed to lynch skynx, then I don't need to feel guilty for anything. I did my work for the day by the time I left the thread.

[quote]

[quote]

[quote]

So you're accusing me of not lynching your top tier townread. Any more scum claims?


You couldve saved koshi.
You didnt.
And now youre bitchin koshi is dead.


So what? I did what I could to get people off Koshi. You're saying you'd rather had me lynch your top tier townread instead which is ridiculously scummy.


By voting off wagon? Sure


That doesn't answer anything.

Why are you saying I should rather have lynched your top town Ruxxar?


Why does my read on artanis have anything to do with what YOU shouldve done?



Not being in front of a computer doesn't make me mafia.


How is that answer related to the question?

1) You did not want to lynch koshi.
2) I am town reading artanis.

Your conclusion: You shouldnt lynch artanis because I think artanis is town?

???????


Uhm, you are accusing me of being off wagon. I was off wagon cause I was afk, hence you are accusing me of being afk.
My conclusion is that you wouldn't have cared if Artanis got lynched, cause you are saying I should have lynched Artanis instead.


In my world, lynching koshi is good, lynching artanis is bad.

In your world, lynching koshi is bad, lynching artanis is good.

Youre trying to take the logic of my world and apply it to yours, when it doesnt make sense.




Whether you were afk or not doesnt matter, the vote is the vote. Theres also phones that can surf the web.

Either way: If you werent afk, who would you have voted for?
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
AMG
Profile Joined March 2013
Australia298 Posts
August 27 2017 01:15 GMT
#1406
Here is the End of Day 1 Vote Count, cleaned up a bit:

+ Show Spoiler +

End of Day 1 Vote Count

  • Tumblewood (0) - Koshi, Oatsmaster
  • Holyflare (0) - Vivax
  • Skynx (1) - Vivax, Holyflare, raynpelikoneet, Artanis[Xp]
  • Koshi (5) - geript, ruXxar, Artanis[Xp], Oatsmaster, Holyflare
  • geript (1) - Koshi, LightningStrike, Holyflare, Skynx, raynpelikoneet
  • Artanis[Xp] (5) - Holyflare, Damdred, raynpelikoneet, Tumblewood, Lightningstrike, Skynx
  • ruXxar (0) - raynpelikoneet

Non-voters (0):


Currently, Koshi is set to be lynched.

Deadline is in (at Saturday, Aug 26 7:30pm GMT (GMT+00:00)).

Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22424 Posts
August 27 2017 01:18 GMT
#1407
On August 27 2017 10:01 ruXxar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2017 09:53 Vivax wrote:
On August 27 2017 09:50 ruXxar wrote:
On August 27 2017 09:45 Vivax wrote:
On August 27 2017 09:45 ruXxar wrote:
On August 27 2017 09:41 Vivax wrote:
Refusal to answer simple questions noted. Dodging the issue like skynx did.

I look forward to the feedback to this conversation from actual townies.

On August 27 2017 09:41 ruXxar wrote:
On August 27 2017 09:37 Vivax wrote:
On August 27 2017 09:35 ruXxar wrote:
On August 27 2017 09:30 Vivax wrote:
It pretty much means your reads stopped mattering the moment you made that accusation. Cause as mafia you couldn't make an accusation that still was consistent with your fake opinion on the game.

I made a correct call on Koshi and berated those lynching him for it and you tried to turn it into something that made me mafia while forgetting that the alternative would have been much more worse if you actually believed Artanis to be town.


My reads dont matter here. This is about you.

Your actions and your words are not in harmony.
Words are words and votes are votes.
The facts are you didnt save koshi when you had the full power to do so.


What would be your read on me if I lynched Artanis, Ruxxar?


Less scummy than it is now.


Now answer this:

On August 27 2017 09:38 ruXxar wrote:
On August 27 2017 09:32 Vivax wrote:
On August 27 2017 09:28 ruXxar wrote:
On August 27 2017 09:26 Vivax wrote:
On August 27 2017 09:21 ruXxar wrote:
[quote]

You couldve saved koshi.
You didnt.
And now youre bitchin koshi is dead.


So what? I did what I could to get people off Koshi. You're saying you'd rather had me lynch your top tier townread instead which is ridiculously scummy.


By voting off wagon? Sure


That doesn't answer anything.

Why are you saying I should rather have lynched your top town Ruxxar?


Why does my read on artanis have anything to do with what YOU shouldve done?



Not being in front of a computer doesn't make me mafia.


How is that answer related to the question?

1) You did not want to lynch koshi.
2) I am town reading artanis.

Your conclusion: You shouldnt lynch artanis because I think artanis is town?

???????


Uhm, you are accusing me of being off wagon. I was off wagon cause I was afk, hence you are accusing me of being afk.
My conclusion is that you wouldn't have cared if Artanis got lynched, cause you are saying I should have lynched Artanis instead.


In my world, lynching koshi is good, lynching artanis is bad.

In your world, lynching koshi is bad, lynching artanis is good.

Youre trying to take the logic of my world and apply it to yours, when it doesnt make sense.




Whether you were afk or not doesnt matter, the vote is the vote. Theres also phones that can surf the web.

Either way: If you werent afk, who would you have voted for?


That's a question that only allows one answer
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
August 27 2017 01:31 GMT
#1408
On August 27 2017 10:18 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2017 10:01 ruXxar wrote:
On August 27 2017 09:53 Vivax wrote:
On August 27 2017 09:50 ruXxar wrote:
On August 27 2017 09:45 Vivax wrote:
On August 27 2017 09:45 ruXxar wrote:
On August 27 2017 09:41 Vivax wrote:
Refusal to answer simple questions noted. Dodging the issue like skynx did.

I look forward to the feedback to this conversation from actual townies.

On August 27 2017 09:41 ruXxar wrote:
On August 27 2017 09:37 Vivax wrote:
On August 27 2017 09:35 ruXxar wrote:
On August 27 2017 09:30 Vivax wrote:
It pretty much means your reads stopped mattering the moment you made that accusation. Cause as mafia you couldn't make an accusation that still was consistent with your fake opinion on the game.

I made a correct call on Koshi and berated those lynching him for it and you tried to turn it into something that made me mafia while forgetting that the alternative would have been much more worse if you actually believed Artanis to be town.


My reads dont matter here. This is about you.

Your actions and your words are not in harmony.
Words are words and votes are votes.
The facts are you didnt save koshi when you had the full power to do so.


What would be your read on me if I lynched Artanis, Ruxxar?


Less scummy than it is now.


Now answer this:

On August 27 2017 09:38 ruXxar wrote:
On August 27 2017 09:32 Vivax wrote:
On August 27 2017 09:28 ruXxar wrote:
On August 27 2017 09:26 Vivax wrote:
[quote]

So what? I did what I could to get people off Koshi. You're saying you'd rather had me lynch your top tier townread instead which is ridiculously scummy.


By voting off wagon? Sure


That doesn't answer anything.

Why are you saying I should rather have lynched your top town Ruxxar?


Why does my read on artanis have anything to do with what YOU shouldve done?



Not being in front of a computer doesn't make me mafia.


How is that answer related to the question?

1) You did not want to lynch koshi.
2) I am town reading artanis.

Your conclusion: You shouldnt lynch artanis because I think artanis is town?

???????


Uhm, you are accusing me of being off wagon. I was off wagon cause I was afk, hence you are accusing me of being afk.
My conclusion is that you wouldn't have cared if Artanis got lynched, cause you are saying I should have lynched Artanis instead.


In my world, lynching koshi is good, lynching artanis is bad.

In your world, lynching koshi is bad, lynching artanis is good.

Youre trying to take the logic of my world and apply it to yours, when it doesnt make sense.




Whether you were afk or not doesnt matter, the vote is the vote. Theres also phones that can surf the web.

Either way: If you werent afk, who would you have voted for?


That's a question that only allows one answer


Yes. Ignore it.
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
August 27 2017 06:23 GMT
#1409
ok im caught up heres my notes:

+ Show Spoiler [whatever] +
vivax:
877 is highly good (tr skynx on a whim)
883 is realistically arrogant. 99% town at this point.

hf:
909 seems to directly contradict what he did at lynch, but i am still missing 20 pages so what do i know
god why does he care so much about the very initial skynx thing. i made sense of that in like 3 posts and he is still asking questions 30 pages later. it is a simple matter.
yup it is page 48 and he is still pushing artanis on the skynx thing.
985 spooks me. but i think it's nai. but it spooks me
ya why tf is hf shitting on people lynching his second scumread

art:
987 is a legit read. seems genuine. not crazy ai but ...
1020 is a solid post. i think artanis is town. and then you're looking at an hf/geript/x team, which is reasonable. upon further review 1020 looks like a solid post on first appearance but is actually pretty meh.
you gotta respect last will

rayn:
he is claimed blue, right?
1206 BOOM GOT EM. DIRECT KILL. (i feel very nice after reading that. thank you rayn)

skynx:
995 is a read i don't think i've ever seen scum make.
1161 is a little good

oats:
not much except ppbbhbbtthttttt
he could be mafia. he is definitely back in the picture. especially since the person i was sheeping on him is now attacking him (and i think over a very valid point).

geript:
oats and rux are obvious town, maybe ls too. god idk if this makes him mafia, i'll figure that out, but i know for sure it annoys me.
but the tricky thing is He's Not Playing The Game. it could be a real excuse but i don't really care

ls:
i don't know why i'm writing him off but i'm strangely comfortable with it

rux:
i have forgotten why he is town or mafia. but i remember thinking he was slightly town. will check my filter later
1408 what ?????? this isn't even scummy just confusing


conclusion:

rayn is town and i don't get why people are still treating him like he's not town.
ls could be flying under the radar but i doubt it.
rux confuses me. bottom line idk man
geript is had to read when he's Not Playing but he's not on my good side.
hf really confuses me. because he spends a dozen pages attacrt and then chews out everyone not on koshi. so by confuses me i mean is scummy.
oats is back in the mafia pool. i think his narrow focus on koshi despite koshi not being his top scurmead is scummy.
vivax is conftown in my mind
skynx is town.
art looks like a real wounded townie, but still a possibility. his filter is dull but there are some decent posts, especially the last will. i like last wills.
i completely forgot about damdred. but i think he was town

conclusion to the conclusion:

conftown:
vivax
rayn

town:
ls
skynx
damdred

dunno man:
rux
art

scumlean:
geript
hf
oats
good times for all
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
August 27 2017 06:26 GMT
#1410
my scum pool is everyone on koshi, and that doesn't sound quite right. we may have to dig deeper into my town list than previously expected
good times for all
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
August 27 2017 06:56 GMT
#1411
On August 27 2017 15:26 Tumblewood wrote:
my scum pool is everyone on koshi, and that doesn't sound quite right. we may have to dig deeper into my town list than previously expected

maybe you are the mafia?!??!?
No gg, No skill.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 27 2017 08:30 GMT
#1412
Artanis[Xp] (5) - Damdred, raynpelikoneet, Tumblewood, Lightningstrike, Skynx

So TW it's scummy that I question and hound the guy you voted for when you also said

hf post 404


That you liked post 404 which is

On August 25 2017 20:55 Holyflare wrote:
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On August 25 2017 20:31 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On August 25 2017 19:55 Holyflare wrote:
On August 25 2017 19:30 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On August 25 2017 18:20 Holyflare wrote:
On August 25 2017 17:48 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On August 25 2017 17:43 Holyflare wrote:
On August 25 2017 17:40 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On August 25 2017 17:37 Holyflare wrote:
You realise there was like 3 cycles of me antagonising him there though? Haven't done that yet.

I'm pretty sure you're hipster mafia. Going against the grain of every read for really weird reasoning and then bypassing the actual logic behind the scum reads though. So that's cool.

Yeah and he just came off that game like one or two days ago and he's already fine. I don't think he would be if he rolled scum two games running.

You're also wrong but that's ok. Have a feeling that it's going to be one of those cases where people scumread me for reasons that have been wrong many times in the past, I get upset and people townread me for being upset and end up not getting lynched again.



Like Skynx as well. Not for the content necessarily, but he put himself out there and even looked at a few other games of Koshi. Dno much about Skynx' mafia play and may be projecting how lazy I'd play as mafia but a cursory look of his last two scumgames suggests he doesn't really go for hard lynches. Koshi as town is pretty hard to lynch. Hedging on it though given how quickly he backtracked.


I mean this specifically. It just says I don't read any of the content but I'll compare him to how I think I'd feel as mafia but then skim one or two games and make a conclusion but really nvm i retract my conclusion just because?

None of it even contains any content. You don't look at any of the posts I've made about him and you just don't seem to care. Just looks like you're massively leaving your options open.

There's just nothing that swings me one way or the other, particularly. I have read your posts, and they're ok and balance out the feeling that I don't think Skynx would be so bold to go after Koshi immediately, ergo the hedging. I can also see myself going into confirmation bias mode and checking just a few scumgames to see if someone's done what I think he might've when it feels scummy. If I can see myself (and probably have done myself) doing it as town, why would it make Skynx mafia?

Best point you made was regarding still looking at the situation with Koshi as mafia despite now seeing his posts as NAI, which can be explained from a town perspective as stubbornness, just not the most likely.


There's some crazy cognitive dissonance in this post. You're saying that skynx could just be a tunneled townie but then when you elaborated earlier it was that you're hedging because of how quickly he rescinded it. But you're still saying he's stubborn townie?

So which is it? Is he townie for being tunnelled but then not townie for not being tunnelled?

Honestly the fact he rescinded that read so quickly after a bit of pressure was good. But the points I've made don't look like he's stubborn townie at all. Why would he be stubborn townie over a read he no longer believes at all???

Fair point. What I guess I'm saying is that Skynx changed his mind quickly because he was proven wrong, but it's clear that there's a lingering suspicion (the stubbornness) which makes him still analyze the situation from a Koshi-is-mafia perspective.



I don't think that's a logical trail of thought and I have no idea why koshi agrees with it (probably cos he's mafia) Have you even read his progression? It's quoting 3 posts that says he does something and then literally 0 posts in between he says that's wrong.

Why is there lingering suspicion about koshi being mafia (based on his entrances) and making conclusions on that??? What is there to still be lingering about when he's proven himself wrong??

Because the reason he's saying he scumreads Koshi isn't the actual reason he was, just the one he formulated. I'm saying it's likely a gut read, presuming he's town.


Like this is quintessential bull shittery. "oh he said he was mafia but that's not reallllyyyy why he thought he was mafia."

.................

Keep stretching the narrative dude. A+


The EXACT thing that you said is a good post for harassing artanis is now the thing that you use to base a scum read on me.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 27 2017 08:34 GMT
#1413
It should be quite obvious why people off koshi are scummy though. The koshi train had legit points that I've argued and not one person countered them with anything whatsoever. Blanket "oh I think koshi is town though" statements are so so bull shit and disingenuous. The wagon had pure reasons, koshi was a shitter but yet people still were hesitant for 0 explained reasons.

Koshi is a ridiculously hars person to push when he's town and the mafia know it. That's why I'm looking at people who didn't vote him.

This is the rels 2.0 lynch.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12973 Posts
August 27 2017 08:43 GMT
#1414
On August 27 2017 17:34 Holyflare wrote:
It should be quite obvious why people off koshi are scummy though. The koshi train had legit points that I've argued and not one person countered them with anything whatsoever. Blanket "oh I think koshi is town though" statements are so so bull shit and disingenuous. The wagon had pure reasons, koshi was a shitter but yet people still were hesitant for 0 explained reasons.

Koshi is a ridiculously hars person to push when he's town and the mafia know it. That's why I'm looking at people who didn't vote him.

This is the rels 2.0 lynch.

To be fair, I normally am too. Us both being afk near EoD made either of our lynches a lot easier.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12973 Posts
August 27 2017 08:45 GMT
#1415
Also TW please link to the posts you mention in numbers cause aint nobody got time to find all those post numbers.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 27 2017 08:51 GMT
#1416
On August 27 2017 17:43 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
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On August 27 2017 17:34 Holyflare wrote:
It should be quite obvious why people off koshi are scummy though. The koshi train had legit points that I've argued and not one person countered them with anything whatsoever. Blanket "oh I think koshi is town though" statements are so so bull shit and disingenuous. The wagon had pure reasons, koshi was a shitter but yet people still were hesitant for 0 explained reasons.

Koshi is a ridiculously hars person to push when he's town and the mafia know it. That's why I'm looking at people who didn't vote him.

This is the rels 2.0 lynch.

To be fair, I normally am too. Us both being afk near EoD made either of our lynches a lot easier.


The people on koshi were on him for at least half a cycle so not particularly true.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 27 2017 08:52 GMT
#1417
Your wagon formed in like 20 minutes
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12973 Posts
August 27 2017 08:57 GMT
#1418
On August 27 2017 17:51 Holyflare wrote:
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On August 27 2017 17:43 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On August 27 2017 17:34 Holyflare wrote:
It should be quite obvious why people off koshi are scummy though. The koshi train had legit points that I've argued and not one person countered them with anything whatsoever. Blanket "oh I think koshi is town though" statements are so so bull shit and disingenuous. The wagon had pure reasons, koshi was a shitter but yet people still were hesitant for 0 explained reasons.

Koshi is a ridiculously hars person to push when he's town and the mafia know it. That's why I'm looking at people who didn't vote him.

This is the rels 2.0 lynch.

To be fair, I normally am too. Us both being afk near EoD made either of our lynches a lot easier.


The people on koshi were on him for at least half a cycle so not particularly true.

Mm, fair.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12973 Posts
August 27 2017 09:03 GMT
#1419
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Votes are only truly interesting if Geript is mafia imo (though that's knowing I'm town of course). If he is, the following happened:
Vote Count

  • Tumblewood (1) - Koshi, Oatsmaster
  • Holyflare (0) - Vivax
  • Skynx (2) - Vivax, Holyflare
  • Koshi (3) - geript, ruXxar, Artanis[Xp]
  • geript (3) - Koshi, Skynx, raynpelikoneet
  • Artanis[Xp] (0) - Holyflare

Non-voters (3): LightningStrike, Damdred, Tumblewood

We have a realistic lynch on geript here. Oats unvotes Tumble to vote for Koshi, putting him at 4. LS then votes for Geript, which makes me feel it's unlikely they're scum together. I don't believe LS plans ahead enough to vote his scumbuddy only to unvote him later.

HF then vote/unvotes Geript to vote Koshi (which he intended to vote in the first place), and LS follows to unvote Geript, presumably because he seems to be replacing out. Skynx does the same which puts the nail in the coffin for that potentiality. Skynx was the second person on the Geript lynch though, so in the end it doesn't pull me one way or the other.

Conclusion: Oats likely together with Geript, LS likely not with Geript if Geript is mafia.

On August 26 2017 20:10 Skynx wrote:
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On August 26 2017 20:05 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On August 26 2017 20:02 Skynx wrote:
Sad thing is its prolly all town on me again

When did you start townreading me?

Cuz you are so lost in this game you have no idea what you're doing.

When did this change again and why, Skynxy?
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 27 2017 10:44 GMT
#1420
On August 27 2017 15:23 Tumblewood wrote:
conftown:
vivax
rayn

town:
ls
skynx
damdred

dunno man:
rux
art

scumlean:
geript
hf
oats

Best list just swap HF and Artanis.
Jailkeeper don't believe that ridiculous Artanis coinflip post. Just do not let me die, let's see if Holyflare dies.
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