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Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12973 Posts
August 27 2017 16:08 GMT
#1441
On August 28 2017 01:04 raynpelikoneet wrote:
What i mean is, i don't care if you can make 1 post or 100 posts but when you make 50 and none of them are trying to get your scumread lynched you can't say "it's because i didn't have time" as it clearly is not where you used your time when you had time.

I also wasn't and still am not sure on my Geript scumread.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12973 Posts
August 27 2017 16:09 GMT
#1442
And there weren't many opportunities to actually engage him since he was feeling shitty and was afk. On which topic, hope you feel better soon man :/
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 27 2017 16:09 GMT
#1443
Why did you even need the feel to defend yourself when nobody was even close to voting for you?
There is absolutely no reason to, especially since there were three people up for lynch at that point, all of them you hadn't apparently read properly.

I don't believe you feel the need to defend yourself at this point as town instead of finding who is mafia amongst them three. And you sure had time, i don't like where you used your time when you had it.
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Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12973 Posts
August 27 2017 16:12 GMT
#1444
On August 28 2017 01:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Why did you even need the feel to defend yourself when nobody was even close to voting for you?
There is absolutely no reason to, especially since there were three people up for lynch at that point, all of them you hadn't apparently read properly.

I don't believe you feel the need to defend yourself at this point as town instead of finding who is mafia amongst them three. And you sure had time, i don't like where you used your time when you had it.

I know you don't, that much is obvious. However if you check any of my old games I tend to get upset at people scumreading me. Just look at Noir where I flipped my shit and even started martyring before anyone even voted me. 'tis something I do regardless of how 'logical' it is.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12973 Posts
August 27 2017 16:12 GMT
#1445
Also plenty of people seemed to be posturing to vote for me or considered me in their scumteams. That no one had voted me yet didn't mean anything.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 27 2017 16:14 GMT
#1446
On August 28 2017 01:08 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2017 01:04 raynpelikoneet wrote:
What i mean is, i don't care if you can make 1 post or 100 posts but when you make 50 and none of them are trying to get your scumread lynched you can't say "it's because i didn't have time" as it clearly is not where you used your time when you had time.

I also wasn't and still am not sure on my Geript scumread.

See here is the kicker.

You knew, that i heavily think geript is mafia. You promised to sheep me on what i want to do. If you have read any of my posts you knew that i don't actually think Koshi is mafia. There are many problems:
1) what i just said, you hadn't read any of those people
2) when you got out of Skynx being mafia, you chose to filter Koshi, decide he is mafia, and vote + afk (i dont care about the reasons but that's what you did).

You are still not sure if geript is mafia so you jsut randomly took one of those people, filtered him, and called him mafia. I am fucking terrible at explaining this but that's not what townies do, i would be okay if you just sheeped me on geript or even read geript instead of Koshi (as he was your top scumread at the time).

Basically you are ranking people above or below others while having absolutely no idea what they have posted, when you sheep, you dont sheep the people you said you would, and i think that makes you mafia.
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Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12973 Posts
August 27 2017 16:16 GMT
#1447
On August 28 2017 01:14 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2017 01:08 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On August 28 2017 01:04 raynpelikoneet wrote:
What i mean is, i don't care if you can make 1 post or 100 posts but when you make 50 and none of them are trying to get your scumread lynched you can't say "it's because i didn't have time" as it clearly is not where you used your time when you had time.

I also wasn't and still am not sure on my Geript scumread.

See here is the kicker.

You knew, that i heavily think geript is mafia. You promised to sheep me on what i want to do. If you have read any of my posts you knew that i don't actually think Koshi is mafia. There are many problems:
1) what i just said, you hadn't read any of those people
2) when you got out of Skynx being mafia, you chose to filter Koshi, decide he is mafia, and vote + afk (i dont care about the reasons but that's what you did).

You are still not sure if geript is mafia so you jsut randomly took one of those people, filtered him, and called him mafia. I am fucking terrible at explaining this but that's not what townies do, i would be okay if you just sheeped me on geript or even read geript instead of Koshi (as he was your top scumread at the time).

Basically you are ranking people above or below others while having absolutely no idea what they have posted, when you sheep, you dont sheep the people you said you would, and i think that makes you mafia.

I did not know that. I knew Koshi talked a lot about Geript being scum for a while, but I did not remember you going after Geript much at that moment in time. I filtered Koshi because he seemed the most scummy to me during my catchup and HF was talking a lot about him.

I could not sheep you because you were voting Skynx whom I did not believe was mafia at that time, and that was the focus I was getting from you. I did not know who else you would vote.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 27 2017 16:19 GMT
#1448
On August 28 2017 01:16 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
I did not know that. I knew Koshi talked a lot about Geript being scum for a while, but I did not remember you going after Geript much at that moment in time. I filtered Koshi because he seemed the most scummy to me during my catchup and HF was talking a lot about him.

I will call this a lie.

I could not sheep you because you were voting Skynx whom I did not believe was mafia at that time, and that was the focus I was getting from you. I did not know who else you would vote.

I will call this a lie too and i have already explained it. And well, at that time you were WITH 100% CERTAINTY IN THE THREAD. There is absolutely no way after my post where i say "i believe this game is 8v4" you do not connect the dots that i think Skynx is not in fact mafia. No way.
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Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12973 Posts
August 27 2017 16:21 GMT
#1449
On August 28 2017 01:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2017 01:16 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
I did not know that. I knew Koshi talked a lot about Geript being scum for a while, but I did not remember you going after Geript much at that moment in time. I filtered Koshi because he seemed the most scummy to me during my catchup and HF was talking a lot about him.

I will call this a lie.

Show nested quote +
I could not sheep you because you were voting Skynx whom I did not believe was mafia at that time, and that was the focus I was getting from you. I did not know who else you would vote.

I will call this a lie too and i have already explained it. And well, at that time you were WITH 100% CERTAINTY IN THE THREAD. There is absolutely no way after my post where i say "i believe this game is 8v4" you do not connect the dots that i think Skynx is not in fact mafia. No way.

You can call those lies all you want, they're true, at the very least in how I remember it. I did not even register your 8v4 comment as anything other than 'someone is mafia siding' and just disregarded it.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
August 27 2017 16:23 GMT
#1450
On August 27 2017 20:00 raynpelikoneet wrote:

Oats probably scum because didn't try to push Tumblewood, when people tried doing anything that was not Koshi he went into "you can't do that". Cant lynch ruxxar, cant lynch Artanis, cant lynch cant lynch..... I understand wanting to lynch your scumread over someone else, but not listening and just calling everyone out who want to do something else in a way he did is scummy as fuck, especially since Koshi flipped town. It was not like he went "no, you are wrong and we should lynch Koshi instead", it was more like "i will yell at you and i will not allow you to do this". I also do not like his play at all, i can see where he is coming from but he isn't really trying to interact with anyone, he just points out random stuff on random people and comes to scome conclusion. There is no direction, just a lot of posting. does anyone even remember why he scumreads Tumblewood? Because i don't. That's not townie play, Oats knows better, having a scumread is only 20%, the rest of it is getting other people to realize the read and believe it, and that's not something Oats is doing.

geript still mafia.

Dude it wasnt "you cant lynch xxx", It was, you cant vote for xxx as one vote and then fuck off without doing anything to convince people that your choice was the right one.

Which is exactly what you did with ruxxar.
No gg, No skill.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 27 2017 16:24 GMT
#1451
On August 26 2017 06:04 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2017 05:49 Holyflare wrote:
Ruxxar good kill

no geript is scum. look at his ruxxar read.

On August 26 2017 06:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Skynx, Artanis, geript.

Final answer.

On August 26 2017 06:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:
What the fuck ever i am the parity cop i can never get a check off so idc. Either i am dead or jailed.

Like i really don't believe you saw the last post but not the one's above. They are ~10mins apart and you were in the thread at the time. The post are NEXT TO EACH OTHER in the thread and you are telling me you saw that i claimed a parity cop but you didn't know i scumread geript....
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 27 2017 16:26 GMT
#1452
On August 28 2017 01:23 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2017 20:00 raynpelikoneet wrote:

Oats probably scum because didn't try to push Tumblewood, when people tried doing anything that was not Koshi he went into "you can't do that". Cant lynch ruxxar, cant lynch Artanis, cant lynch cant lynch..... I understand wanting to lynch your scumread over someone else, but not listening and just calling everyone out who want to do something else in a way he did is scummy as fuck, especially since Koshi flipped town. It was not like he went "no, you are wrong and we should lynch Koshi instead", it was more like "i will yell at you and i will not allow you to do this". I also do not like his play at all, i can see where he is coming from but he isn't really trying to interact with anyone, he just points out random stuff on random people and comes to scome conclusion. There is no direction, just a lot of posting. does anyone even remember why he scumreads Tumblewood? Because i don't. That's not townie play, Oats knows better, having a scumread is only 20%, the rest of it is getting other people to realize the read and believe it, and that's not something Oats is doing.

geript still mafia.

Dude it wasnt "you cant lynch xxx", It was, you cant vote for xxx as one vote and then fuck off without doing anything to convince people that your choice was the right one.

Which is exactly what you did with ruxxar.

Where did i "fuck off"??????????????
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Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12973 Posts
August 27 2017 16:26 GMT
#1453
On August 28 2017 01:24 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2017 06:04 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 26 2017 05:49 Holyflare wrote:
Ruxxar good kill

no geript is scum. look at his ruxxar read.

Show nested quote +
On August 26 2017 06:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Skynx, Artanis, geript.

Final answer.

Show nested quote +
On August 26 2017 06:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:
What the fuck ever i am the parity cop i can never get a check off so idc. Either i am dead or jailed.

Like i really don't believe you saw the last post but not the one's above. They are ~10mins apart and you were in the thread at the time. The post are NEXT TO EACH OTHER in the thread and you are telling me you saw that i claimed a parity cop but you didn't know i scumread geript....

That I saw you say it at some point doesn't mean I registered and remembered it later man. So many people have indicated suspicions on so many people, I don't remember all of it.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 27 2017 16:28 GMT
#1454
Well that doesn't change my opinion on you.
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Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12973 Posts
August 27 2017 16:29 GMT
#1455
On August 28 2017 01:28 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Well that doesn't change my opinion on you.

Eh, all I can do is tell you the truth. If you want to actually give me a chance, don't keep focussing on me and I may actually be able to focus on the rest of the thread. I know it sucks to say that and that I should just do it myself, but like I said I can't help myself. I acknowledge the flaw.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
August 27 2017 16:31 GMT
#1456
On August 27 2017 03:27 raynpelikoneet wrote:
##unvote
##vote Ruxxar


On August 27 2017 03:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2017 03:34 Oatsmaster wrote:
On August 27 2017 03:27 raynpelikoneet wrote:
##unvote
##vote Ruxxar

right now this is a totally wasted vote. Bad rayn.

If Koshi flips town you're mafia. Because you jsut said every single vote other than Koshi is a wasted vote. So better hope he will flip mafia.

Er here? Where you did nothing?
On August 27 2017 03:49 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2017 03:46 Oatsmaster wrote:
On August 27 2017 03:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 27 2017 03:34 Oatsmaster wrote:
On August 27 2017 03:27 raynpelikoneet wrote:
##unvote
##vote Ruxxar

right now this is a totally wasted vote. Bad rayn.

If Koshi flips town you're mafia. Because you jsut said every single vote other than Koshi is a wasted vote. So better hope he will flip mafia.

There is no one that really wants to lynch Rux, he has one vote and you arent doing SHIT to convince anyone to move to rux.
So its wasted.

But i only care about finding mafia, not really convincing people lately.

Looks like you did a heel of a job trying to convince people to lynch Tumblewood your super top scumread. I don't even fucking know why you think he is mafia...

No gg, No skill.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 27 2017 16:33 GMT
#1457
On August 28 2017 01:09 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
And there weren't many opportunities to actually engage him since he was feeling shitty and was afk. On which topic, hope you feel better soon man :/

I think this might be TMI since i didn't know geript was feeling shitty and stuff before he 100% afk'd, which is not what we are talking about here.
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Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12973 Posts
August 27 2017 16:34 GMT
#1458
On August 28 2017 01:33 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2017 01:09 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
And there weren't many opportunities to actually engage him since he was feeling shitty and was afk. On which topic, hope you feel better soon man :/

I think this might be TMI since i didn't know geript was feeling shitty and stuff before he 100% afk'd, which is not what we are talking about here.

Dude..
On August 27 2017 01:14 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2017 21:36 raynpelikoneet wrote:
geript can form a read on Tumblewood for one post, geript can't form any read on Ruxxar. I don't wanna explain this again, go read what he says in his post where he implies he can meta ruxxar and when ruxxar acts completely different from geript's meta on him, he just doesn't even care to do anything with it.

Furthermore geript loves proving me wrong when he thinks i am lynching stupid. In this game he apparently thought i am lynching stupid (Skynx) since he doesn't care to comment on it in any way, or scumread me (what other conclusion there is?). But he doesn't care at all pointing me out onto right track, he doesn't care to comment on this in any single way.

Basically geript doesn't think i am mafia, doesn't agree with my case, and doesn't do anything with it. Makes sense if he is mafia.

I'm feeling a little better today, but still not great so I'm going to answer this. I am depressed. I've only had job offers from shit ends places. I haven't had a job for 4 months now and had to sell of a major part of my EDh deck. Shipping the mtg cards cost the last cash I had and I'm literally broke. Like I. Crying and don't want to get out of bed right now just writing this.

You are taking things for being mafia which have no relation to the game. I'm going to grab a bite and I'll be back.

raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 27 2017 16:37 GMT
#1459
On August 28 2017 01:31 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2017 03:27 raynpelikoneet wrote:
##unvote
##vote Ruxxar


Show nested quote +
On August 27 2017 03:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 27 2017 03:34 Oatsmaster wrote:
On August 27 2017 03:27 raynpelikoneet wrote:
##unvote
##vote Ruxxar

right now this is a totally wasted vote. Bad rayn.

If Koshi flips town you're mafia. Because you jsut said every single vote other than Koshi is a wasted vote. So better hope he will flip mafia.

Er here? Where you did nothing?
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2017 03:49 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 27 2017 03:46 Oatsmaster wrote:
On August 27 2017 03:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 27 2017 03:34 Oatsmaster wrote:
On August 27 2017 03:27 raynpelikoneet wrote:
##unvote
##vote Ruxxar

right now this is a totally wasted vote. Bad rayn.

If Koshi flips town you're mafia. Because you jsut said every single vote other than Koshi is a wasted vote. So better hope he will flip mafia.

There is no one that really wants to lynch Rux, he has one vote and you arent doing SHIT to convince anyone to move to rux.
So its wasted.

But i only care about finding mafia, not really convincing people lately.

Looks like you did a heel of a job trying to convince people to lynch Tumblewood your super top scumread. I don't even fucking know why you think he is mafia...


That's a bad narrative Oats. You called me out of "afking" and telling basically we cant lynch ruxxar 7 minutes after i had placed my vote. If i was writing a case you cannot even know if i am doing that or not, you werent giving me a chance in your mind. That's what i am talking about. What happened doesnt matter.

The fact is i voted for ruxxar and you told people not to, because rayn doesnt even have a case even before you have given me a chance to write one. That's what i am talking about, about your mindset, and that's how i see it.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 27 2017 16:39 GMT
#1460
On August 28 2017 01:34 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2017 01:33 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 28 2017 01:09 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
And there weren't many opportunities to actually engage him since he was feeling shitty and was afk. On which topic, hope you feel better soon man :/

I think this might be TMI since i didn't know geript was feeling shitty and stuff before he 100% afk'd, which is not what we are talking about here.

Dude..
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2017 01:14 geript wrote:
On August 26 2017 21:36 raynpelikoneet wrote:
geript can form a read on Tumblewood for one post, geript can't form any read on Ruxxar. I don't wanna explain this again, go read what he says in his post where he implies he can meta ruxxar and when ruxxar acts completely different from geript's meta on him, he just doesn't even care to do anything with it.

Furthermore geript loves proving me wrong when he thinks i am lynching stupid. In this game he apparently thought i am lynching stupid (Skynx) since he doesn't care to comment on it in any way, or scumread me (what other conclusion there is?). But he doesn't care at all pointing me out onto right track, he doesn't care to comment on this in any single way.

Basically geript doesn't think i am mafia, doesn't agree with my case, and doesn't do anything with it. Makes sense if he is mafia.

I'm feeling a little better today, but still not great so I'm going to answer this. I am depressed. I've only had job offers from shit ends places. I haven't had a job for 4 months now and had to sell of a major part of my EDh deck. Shipping the mtg cards cost the last cash I had and I'm literally broke. Like I. Crying and don't want to get out of bed right now just writing this.

You are taking things for being mafia which have no relation to the game. I'm going to grab a bite and I'll be back.


Yeah and the geript post was after you already had voted for Koshi.
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