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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 27 2017 17:28 GMT
#1481
On August 28 2017 02:21 LightningStrike wrote:
Honestly I see what you talking about but do you think Lex could come up with a last will as scum so quickly? Vivax you know better than afking at deadline...... You should of been pushing Skynx at deadline....

Yeah writing a lst weill that says absolutely nothing is very hard to do in 2 minutes.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 27 2017 17:30 GMT
#1482
I like this mentality of "wow a dude made a post he must be town".
Why do i even play these games?
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Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12970 Posts
August 27 2017 17:43 GMT
#1483
On August 28 2017 02:26 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2017 02:23 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Reading through from where I left off I am also pretty sure TW is town. A little bit for this post:
On August 26 2017 03:36 Tumblewood wrote:
On August 26 2017 03:32 Oatsmaster wrote:
I think ruxx is town too.

So today i want to lynch
TW
LS
Vivax
Koshi

wow i am impressed you basically managed to name my top 4 town in order

Exuding a lot of confidence. He has no problem going in against the flow of the thread, potentially making himself a focal point for little gain.

Also his filter is already longer than his last scumgame where he was lynched D4, and as long as the scumgame before that where he was lynched D3. Also a little bit due to the list post he made earlier with all his notes. From what I can tell he's never done that before and I just don't think it's something you start doing as mafia rather than as town.

Also also dinner ready!

This is totally incorrect. At that time, the whole thread had the same reads as him... He hasn't done anything that went against the flow of the thread.
Also totally superficial meta read that means nothing.

What is this townread?!??

The whole thread had LS, Vivax, and Koshi as town? LS maybe, but Vivax is questionable and Koshi is definitely not true.

Yes, it's superficial, but it also has a tendency of being correct. Just because it's not complicated doesn't make it an invalid metric, especially for people who tend to struggle to post.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12970 Posts
August 27 2017 17:43 GMT
#1484
On August 28 2017 02:28 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2017 02:21 LightningStrike wrote:
Honestly I see what you talking about but do you think Lex could come up with a last will as scum so quickly? Vivax you know better than afking at deadline...... You should of been pushing Skynx at deadline....

Yeah writing a lst weill that says absolutely nothing is very hard to do in 2 minutes.

Took me about 15 minutes actually, which was all the time I had.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 27 2017 17:45 GMT
#1485
Artanis have you always been up to date with the thread when you post your scum reads?
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12970 Posts
August 27 2017 17:46 GMT
#1486
Also, Tumble was scumreading Rayn. That's not particularly going with the flow of the thread.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12970 Posts
August 27 2017 17:46 GMT
#1487
On August 28 2017 02:45 Holyflare wrote:
Artanis have you always been up to date with the thread when you post your scum reads?

Nope.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 27 2017 17:46 GMT
#1488
What about when you made the koshi read? Had you caught up at that point?
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12970 Posts
August 27 2017 17:47 GMT
#1489
On August 28 2017 02:46 Holyflare wrote:
What about when you made the koshi read? Had you caught up at that point?

Nope, was at about page 30-32ish I think when I decided to filter him instead and the clock ran out on me with friends arriving?
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12970 Posts
August 27 2017 17:48 GMT
#1490
I had skimmed through most of the thread through my phone before though.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 27 2017 17:50 GMT
#1491
Ah okay, you're mafia then. I made my koshi case page 22 and it was discussed by a few people quite a bit in those pages after. No way you didn't see it and then magic up a read like you say you did.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12970 Posts
August 27 2017 17:52 GMT
#1492
On August 28 2017 02:50 Holyflare wrote:
Ah okay, you're mafia then. I made my koshi case page 22 and it was discussed by a few people quite a bit in those pages after. No way you didn't see it and then magic up a read like you say you did.

Apparently I did not notice it though.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 27 2017 17:52 GMT
#1493
On August 27 2017 04:28 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Last will:
Don't think Skynx is mafia still despite the switch. Too combative to the few people who were still townreading him, and didn't seem particularly interested in his self-preservation. Tonally feels town too.
Rayn is most likely town. I don't see any benefit for the blue claim as scum.
ruXxar should be town but Tina once told me that he makes more sense as scum than as town. Maybe he just made sense to me but there you go.
LS was gonna say he probably isn't mafia, but then I realized this is mainly sheeping a Damdred read. Still think he's likely town but eh.
Vivax/HF are both in the wait and see category, but in very different ways. Keep a tab on Vivax' post count now and in a few days. If it's barely grown he's probably mafia. For HF, if he hasn't found and pushed mafia or died by d3 he's mafia.

TW/Oats could be mafia. TW feels like he's just stood on the sidelines and said stuff but never really cared to get any of it through. Problem is that's the case for his games all the time. Much the same for Oats, though he's more aggressive with his reads and how he states it he doesn't really seem to push for anything.

Town:
Rayn
LS
ruXxar

Townish:
Skynx
LS
Vivax
HF

Null:
TW
Oats

Null-scummish
Geript

Scum
Damdred
Koshi


This is also a bs last will now that I look at it because if you think the Koshi case is the strongest and he's the most mafia but then you just write a shit line about "wait and see" on me despite copying my exact reads and following my lynch.

I don't believe you think those thoughts simultaneously.

Whoever it was that said about your damdred read is also spot on.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12970 Posts
August 27 2017 17:53 GMT
#1494
On August 28 2017 02:50 Holyflare wrote:
Ah okay, you're mafia then. I made my koshi case page 22 and it was discussed by a few people quite a bit in those pages after. No way you didn't see it and then magic up a read like you say you did.

Hm, I think I started catching up from a thread page later than what I actually missed somehow. That's pretty impressive.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 27 2017 17:54 GMT
#1495
On August 28 2017 02:52 Holyflare wrote:
Whoever it was that said about your damdred read is also spot on.

That would be me.
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Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 27 2017 17:54 GMT
#1496
On August 28 2017 01:16 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2017 01:14 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 28 2017 01:08 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On August 28 2017 01:04 raynpelikoneet wrote:
What i mean is, i don't care if you can make 1 post or 100 posts but when you make 50 and none of them are trying to get your scumread lynched you can't say "it's because i didn't have time" as it clearly is not where you used your time when you had time.

I also wasn't and still am not sure on my Geript scumread.

See here is the kicker.

You knew, that i heavily think geript is mafia. You promised to sheep me on what i want to do. If you have read any of my posts you knew that i don't actually think Koshi is mafia. There are many problems:
1) what i just said, you hadn't read any of those people
2) when you got out of Skynx being mafia, you chose to filter Koshi, decide he is mafia, and vote + afk (i dont care about the reasons but that's what you did).

You are still not sure if geript is mafia so you jsut randomly took one of those people, filtered him, and called him mafia. I am fucking terrible at explaining this but that's not what townies do, i would be okay if you just sheeped me on geript or even read geript instead of Koshi (as he was your top scumread at the time).

Basically you are ranking people above or below others while having absolutely no idea what they have posted, when you sheep, you dont sheep the people you said you would, and i think that makes you mafia.

I did not know that. I knew Koshi talked a lot about Geript being scum for a while, but I did not remember you going after Geript much at that moment in time. I filtered Koshi because he seemed the most scummy to me during my catchup and HF was talking a lot about him.

I could not sheep you because you were voting Skynx whom I did not believe was mafia at that time, and that was the focus I was getting from you. I did not know who else you would vote.


Bahahahaha
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12970 Posts
August 27 2017 17:55 GMT
#1497
On August 28 2017 02:52 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2017 04:28 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Last will:
Don't think Skynx is mafia still despite the switch. Too combative to the few people who were still townreading him, and didn't seem particularly interested in his self-preservation. Tonally feels town too.
Rayn is most likely town. I don't see any benefit for the blue claim as scum.
ruXxar should be town but Tina once told me that he makes more sense as scum than as town. Maybe he just made sense to me but there you go.
LS was gonna say he probably isn't mafia, but then I realized this is mainly sheeping a Damdred read. Still think he's likely town but eh.
Vivax/HF are both in the wait and see category, but in very different ways. Keep a tab on Vivax' post count now and in a few days. If it's barely grown he's probably mafia. For HF, if he hasn't found and pushed mafia or died by d3 he's mafia.

TW/Oats could be mafia. TW feels like he's just stood on the sidelines and said stuff but never really cared to get any of it through. Problem is that's the case for his games all the time. Much the same for Oats, though he's more aggressive with his reads and how he states it he doesn't really seem to push for anything.

Town:
Rayn
LS
ruXxar

Townish:
Skynx
LS
Vivax
HF

Null:
TW
Oats

Null-scummish
Geript

Scum
Damdred
Koshi


This is also a bs last will now that I look at it because if you think the Koshi case is the strongest and he's the most mafia but then you just write a shit line about "wait and see" on me despite copying my exact reads and following my lynch.

I don't believe you think those thoughts simultaneously.

Whoever it was that said about your damdred read is also spot on.

See previous post. Also you being right doesn't make you town even if I had read or remembered what you said.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12970 Posts
August 27 2017 17:56 GMT
#1498
On August 28 2017 02:54 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2017 01:16 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On August 28 2017 01:14 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 28 2017 01:08 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On August 28 2017 01:04 raynpelikoneet wrote:
What i mean is, i don't care if you can make 1 post or 100 posts but when you make 50 and none of them are trying to get your scumread lynched you can't say "it's because i didn't have time" as it clearly is not where you used your time when you had time.

I also wasn't and still am not sure on my Geript scumread.

See here is the kicker.

You knew, that i heavily think geript is mafia. You promised to sheep me on what i want to do. If you have read any of my posts you knew that i don't actually think Koshi is mafia. There are many problems:
1) what i just said, you hadn't read any of those people
2) when you got out of Skynx being mafia, you chose to filter Koshi, decide he is mafia, and vote + afk (i dont care about the reasons but that's what you did).

You are still not sure if geript is mafia so you jsut randomly took one of those people, filtered him, and called him mafia. I am fucking terrible at explaining this but that's not what townies do, i would be okay if you just sheeped me on geript or even read geript instead of Koshi (as he was your top scumread at the time).

Basically you are ranking people above or below others while having absolutely no idea what they have posted, when you sheep, you dont sheep the people you said you would, and i think that makes you mafia.

I did not know that. I knew Koshi talked a lot about Geript being scum for a while, but I did not remember you going after Geript much at that moment in time. I filtered Koshi because he seemed the most scummy to me during my catchup and HF was talking a lot about him.

I could not sheep you because you were voting Skynx whom I did not believe was mafia at that time, and that was the focus I was getting from you. I did not know who else you would vote.


Bahahahaha

I don't even understand myself anymore if that helps. Maybe I rolled mafia and don't remember that either.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 27 2017 17:56 GMT
#1499
On August 28 2017 02:53 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2017 02:50 Holyflare wrote:
Ah okay, you're mafia then. I made my koshi case page 22 and it was discussed by a few people quite a bit in those pages after. No way you didn't see it and then magic up a read like you say you did.

Hm, I think I started catching up from a thread page later than what I actually missed somehow. That's pretty impressive.


Oh, that's convenient then because I post it again on page 26!

http://www.liquidhearth.com/forum/mafia/526062-names-are-hard-2?page=26#506

Nice try
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 27 2017 17:57 GMT
#1500
On August 28 2017 02:55 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2017 02:52 Holyflare wrote:
On August 27 2017 04:28 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Last will:
Don't think Skynx is mafia still despite the switch. Too combative to the few people who were still townreading him, and didn't seem particularly interested in his self-preservation. Tonally feels town too.
Rayn is most likely town. I don't see any benefit for the blue claim as scum.
ruXxar should be town but Tina once told me that he makes more sense as scum than as town. Maybe he just made sense to me but there you go.
LS was gonna say he probably isn't mafia, but then I realized this is mainly sheeping a Damdred read. Still think he's likely town but eh.
Vivax/HF are both in the wait and see category, but in very different ways. Keep a tab on Vivax' post count now and in a few days. If it's barely grown he's probably mafia. For HF, if he hasn't found and pushed mafia or died by d3 he's mafia.

TW/Oats could be mafia. TW feels like he's just stood on the sidelines and said stuff but never really cared to get any of it through. Problem is that's the case for his games all the time. Much the same for Oats, though he's more aggressive with his reads and how he states it he doesn't really seem to push for anything.

Town:
Rayn
LS
ruXxar

Townish:
Skynx
LS
Vivax
HF

Null:
TW
Oats

Null-scummish
Geript

Scum
Damdred
Koshi


This is also a bs last will now that I look at it because if you think the Koshi case is the strongest and he's the most mafia but then you just write a shit line about "wait and see" on me despite copying my exact reads and following my lynch.

I don't believe you think those thoughts simultaneously.

Whoever it was that said about your damdred read is also spot on.

See previous post. Also you being right doesn't make you town even if I had read or remembered what you said.


No but having the same thought as someone and pushing the same case as someone generally makes that guy look townier for having the exact same thoughts.

Apparently not to you though.
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