[M][N] Names Are Hard 2 - Page 6

On August 28 2017 14:20 LightningStrike wrote:

Or Mafia went for a medic dodge shot most likely.

On August 28 2017 14:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Holyflare and Damdred, when you have a chance could you guys explain to Skynx what happened there, please. Just do it before LYLO and i can just 100% ignore this one dude. I mean this guy cannot understand that if i am mafia a JK should always CC.

LS would have done it.
Oats would have done it.
Ruxxar knows he is not JK.
Skynx wouldn't have done what he did on D1 if he is JK (he would have cared more about being lynched).
Artanis would have claimed EoD.
HF would have 100% CC'd me (because he knows how to play this game).
Damdred will 100% CC me (because he knows how to play this game).
Tumblewood is not JK because he believes my claim.

So mafia can put their bets on Onegu cc'ing me. Or if he doesn't, wow there is noone else in the game.

On August 28 2017 15:00 Oatsmaster wrote:

Pretty sure none of rayn's claims were "soft"

What is your objective here rux?

On August 28 2017 18:45 Holyflare wrote:
Someone who is not voting artanis please explain his lies from a townie perspective.

On August 28 2017 14:49 ruXxar wrote:
Rays fake cop claim is super scummy for these reasons:

1) It attempts to bait out a parity cop counter claim.

A parity cop is useless before day 3, so catching them early is what you want to do. There is absolutely zero reason for a parity cop to counterclaim, when Rayn can go "I wasn't really serious lul" and now mafia has exposed the strongest town role in the game.

2) It wastes the Jailkeeper save.

This means that scum doesn't need to worry about medic dodging and can pick whichever target they want.

3) Guaranteed KP for mafia.

With the jailer jailing Rayn, the other mafia KP carrier on his scum team has a 0% chance to be jailed, guaranteeing a kill for scum.

On August 28 2017 21:22 Holyflare wrote:
like you can literally just wait for another mafia nk at least?

you have given 0 evidence why artanis is not mafia whatsoever

On August 28 2017 21:17 Holyflare wrote:


because rayn claimed parity cop to draw a jk

On August 28 2017 23:05 Holyflare wrote:
Are you for real? I've posted about 100 reasons?

His skynx read.

His lack of doing anything and perpetual afk.

When he does appear it's to do not much.

Geript is up for lynch with koshi (who he doesn't scum read despite there being multiple cases in the thread about it) and he joins the wagon for an arbitrary reason (that was already talked about AT LENGTH). His reads just completely switch to koshi and geript (when does he even mention geript ever???)

Then when he's called out by me on his koshi vote choices post lynch he says he only read from page X. I point out that's a lie since my case (that he copied) happened when he said he read.

Then he says oh funny coincidence it was page Y. I pointed out that I actually pasted my case again at page Y. So two lies.

Then he changes his story for a third time and says maybe he didn't read the thread then and only read koshi's filter. Koshi quoted my case and talked about it in his filter.

Then he martyred because he got so easily caught. Someone who has never been lynched as town EVER just martyrs? No. Now he's nowhere to be seen and just drops bs town reads randomly on one guy.

Oh also his damdred scum read at deadline which was stronger than his geript one but had no reasoning either.

On August 28 2017 23:11 Holyflare wrote:
If rayn is a town jailkeeper he's going to assume he's playing well and will get shot. To stop mafia shooting him then he claims a role that will now be protected.

Mafia now have to shoot someone else (me likely) now he has a chance to protect that person.

It's a poor play really but there are town explanations. I think his play has been markedly different from last game too.

On August 28 2017 23:29 Damdred wrote:
Just as an aside there are games where town rayn and town hf have went to near endgame.

So yeah it's a bad argument.

On August 28 2017 23:42 Damdred wrote:


Generally speaking yes.

But that's not to say they should always be shot d1, or even happen often.

Probably if neither are dead d2 Or 3 its time to worry today the argument isn't that great.

On August 28 2017 14:49 ruXxar wrote:
Rayn fake cop claim is super scummy for these reasons:

1) It attempts to bait out a parity cop counter claim.

A parity cop is useless before day 3, so catching them early is what you want to do. There is absolutely zero reason for a parity cop to counterclaim, when Rayn can go "I wasn't really serious lul" and now mafia has exposed the strongest town role in the game.

2) It wastes the Jailkeeper save.

This means that scum doesn't need to worry about medic dodging and can pick whichever target they want.

3) Guaranteed KP for mafia.

With the jailer jailing Rayn, the other mafia KP carrier on his scum team has a 0% chance to be jailed, guaranteeing a kill for scum.

On August 28 2017 23:52 Onegu wrote:
Im here. I have a bunch to catch up and its my birthday. So things will come but come slow from me.

On August 28 2017 23:59 Damdred wrote:
I disagree with your conclusion very much. There are so many different possibilities you have to take into account.

Not the least is this argument itself.

On August 29 2017 00:20 LightningStrike wrote:

He claimed jail keeper from what I found if I read it right.........

On August 26 2017 06:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:
What the fuck ever i am the parity cop i can never get a check off so idc. Either i am dead or jailed.

On August 26 2017 06:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:
What the fuck ever i am the parity cop i can never get a check off so idc. Either i am dead or jailed.

On August 29 2017 00:31 LightningStrike wrote:

He claimed Jailkeeper here:

On August 28 2017 05:22 raynpelikoneet wrote:

I needed a medic dodge on me because i cant jail myself.