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On August 26 2017 02:36 Oatsmaster wrote:
Cause it sure seems like you dont really care whos mafia and whos town.
and fyi you didn't ask me who my townreads are. + Show Spoiler +allow me to take this opportunity to say ls, vivax, skynx, and koshi are likely town
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On August 26 2017 02:24 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On August 25 2017 06:10 LightningStrike wrote:
I was giving rayn his time to talk to Skynx while watching Impractical Jokers. Skynx being a bit combative towards rayn hmm. Is this normal behavior from Skynx as either alignment for those who got good amount of experience playing with him? Useless question. Show nested quote +On August 25 2017 08:37 LightningStrike wrote:On August 25 2017 08:06 geript wrote:On August 25 2017 07:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 25 2017 06:44 Tumblewood wrote:
because that is the same meta geript uses on me all the time I am not sure if i believe this so this is a reminder to myself to check something on this tomorrow. It's not exactly true... From Generic: On July 14 2017 03:12 geript wrote:
I remember TW when he was a newbie. I remember his not being boring/dull/. Like he had some good observations (wrong but good) then. His scum game IIRC was much lower activity and struggled to post almost anything. He's likely a good lynch too. The thing is that during the last abortion of a game, when I was reading TW (in MS Paint Judge mafia) I was comparing him to older games to get can idea of any other meta reads I could use to push him. It's something that I noticed from his town play and something that HF picked up and agreed with in the game. On August 25 2017 06:21 Koshi wrote:On August 25 2017 06:14 geript wrote:I kinda like TW for town. Mostly because of this post: On August 25 2017 05:47 Tumblewood wrote:On August 25 2017 05:44 Koshi wrote:
I am pretty unhappy TW, LS and Damdred left the thread. nope i'm still here i just haven't cared enough to say anything else In part for flippant in part because Town!TW says what he thinks.
Everyone passing around the LS townread when they should know better is a bit weird.1/20 If you want to make 20 posts. It is better that you explain everything you claim. The bolded is completely unexplained and gives us nothing. LS is easy to read. I don't see why it is weird and I townread Damdred and Vivax for seeing it and calling it early. It generates discussion and easy townreads make mafia nervous. Mafia doesn't like easy townreads you see. Then they make comments like you just did. A few things here: 1. Only bad mafia hate early townreads. Like it's often quite easy to call someone town, move them into a situation where they look bad, rescind the townread and push them for lynch. I am not bad mafia. 2. LS in at least 1 game (though as far as I remembered multiple games) as scum has mimicked his "town puppy" persona to get townread and survived until endgame on it. Passing around a bad read is on the other hand makes it easy for scum to blend in. Hell, last game I basically literally just took what town was already thinking, repackaged it into nicer, newer, and better thinking and sold it as my own. On August 25 2017 06:55 Koshi wrote:
I dislike he scumreads me. Especially because he scumreads me because I don't meta townread rayn for a reason I would not meta read rayn town for. On August 25 2017 07:21 Koshi wrote:
For the record. I recognize the points made against Skynx. I do not know if it makes him mafia.
I think there is a chance still that he is town that made a very bad post.
geript on the other hand came in with a typical lazy mafia post. As town something in the thread would have triggered him, something about Koshi, rayn, HF or Vivax. Even Damdred maybe. But because he is mafia and lazy nothing really did, so he made an easy TW comment because he is "helping". When rayn confronted him he had to make something up and called rayn town and in the same breath called Koshi mafia because he isn't calling rayn town.
I do not believe town!geript makes that koshi read only after surrendering a town!rayn read. I think town!geript would have made that Koshi read while catching up and would have posted that instead of the TW town read.
I do believe mafia geript played lazy and showed face.
This is my read. Accept it. Who's getting mad about early townreads now Koshi? Koshi is scumreading me for scumreading him for not townreading rayn. Silliness aside. Hold with me, it's a bit circuitous but it's here. I've made it quite obvious on numerous occasions that I fucking hate playing scum when HF is town; as such, when I'm scum I basically become his thread bitch because I don't know how else to buy time in order to gain control of the thread until I get to NK HF. But the same is not true of Rayn. I know how to fuck with Rayn's head as mafia; I know what he looks at and looks for and can throw out a hook to get him super distracted. 1. As mafia, I gain nothing by giving Rayn an early townread and actually surrender thread control; which btw, I don't do as mafia (except for HF or maybe Marv but Marv because he's a fucking sexy beast). So his argument is not only bad, it's also incorrect. Vivax I haven't really played with in a while and I haven't had a correct read on him for a long time. Damdred I read town for how he reads people with "Damdred" reads and how he shows specific lines of thinking as town that he doesn't as scum. HF I read based on what he's pushing and why he's pushing; it's kinda a feels read but mostly based on him pushing "good things." Rayn I read based on what he's pushing and how he pushes; he likes to lynch bad as town and picks up on completely different things as mafia (example the Judge game where almost every time he came in the thread he pushed stupid shit that was bad). 2. When I make a read on Rayn for doing town!Rayn things, it's me being scum. When I don't comment on things about Vivax, HF, or Damdred because I'm either lacking any way to accurately read them (Vivax), I haven't seen them do things to read them town yet (Damdred), or I'm getting mixed vibes from (HF), then I'm scum. When I post about Koshi, I'm both scum for something not triggering me to post something about him AND scum for posting what I posted. Like, that's a pretty fucking weird argument for Koshi to be making at the same time; he's usually a bit more lazy as scum, and arguing both sides of the coin in the same post is pretty fucking weird for Town!Koshi to do. 3. Come at me bro 3/20 Yes I know I fooled people in the past in 2 of my scum games but Damdred usually gets me right except a few times when he either almost gets me mislynched or actually got me lynched on shannies. Damdred helped me a bit on my scum game I will tell you that as he was in a scum team with me where we almost won had it not been for sicklucker not giving a shit for a couple of cells (Cell Millionaire). Trust Damdred's read on me. Its interesting(scummy) how he says "trust" damdred's read when he doesnt know damdred's alignment. Or does he??? Show nested quote +On August 25 2017 08:39 LightningStrike wrote:
Side note I think Damdred could be town this game as well as rayn and Koshi just need them to stop fighting each other. Also this is a pretty big "side" note that LS just brushes under. He isnt trying to find mafia, hes just going with the status quo and waiting for things to happen.
First how was it a useless question when it's meta related?
Second: Damdred usually can read me real well hence my comment about Damdred and I do think he's town this game.
Third: I normally look for town first as town myself? It been a long time since we played with each other I know many things had changed o.o
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On August 26 2017 02:35 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On August 26 2017 02:31 Skynx wrote:On August 26 2017 02:26 Oatsmaster wrote:
Actually i kinda like geript for townreading TW now.
Its not really worth it as mafia to defend his partner who has a decent chance of getting lynched today.
Why do you think they are mafia together? Does geript read makes sense if TW is town? I'm gona sheep Koshi here. geript picking out TW to tr as his 1st post when he has done nothing towny and there has been lots of other content to comment on. Ok so if geript is mafia and TW is town, its an easy push for geript to not lock himself out from. If geript is mafia and TW is mafia, geript just posted a totally unconvincing townread just so he, one vote, doesnt have to vote TW at the end of the day. There are many better things that he can do to end up with his vote on someone thats town. So this doesnt make sense to me. If geript is town then hes just playing the game as he sees it. From my perspective, the most likely situation is that geript is town. Why is the bolded section scummy Skynx? how does that advance mafia objectives?
It's just a not well thought out entry imo. I see no reason to make the post he did from any alignment tbh.
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On August 26 2017 02:39 Tumblewood wrote:Show nested quote +On August 26 2017 02:36 Oatsmaster wrote:
Cause it sure seems like you dont really care whos mafia and whos town. and fyi you didn't ask me who my townreads are. + Show Spoiler +allow me to take this opportunity to say ls, vivax, skynx, and koshi are likely town
i dont care about townreads lol.
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On August 26 2017 02:42 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On August 26 2017 02:39 Tumblewood wrote:On August 26 2017 02:36 Oatsmaster wrote:
Cause it sure seems like you dont really care whos mafia and whos town. and fyi you didn't ask me who my townreads are. + Show Spoiler +allow me to take this opportunity to say ls, vivax, skynx, and koshi are likely town i dont care about townreads lol.
ah, i see you approach the game differently than i do. a classic scenario
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On August 26 2017 02:40 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On August 26 2017 02:24 Oatsmaster wrote:On August 25 2017 06:10 LightningStrike wrote:
I was giving rayn his time to talk to Skynx while watching Impractical Jokers. Skynx being a bit combative towards rayn hmm. Is this normal behavior from Skynx as either alignment for those who got good amount of experience playing with him? Useless question. On August 25 2017 08:37 LightningStrike wrote:On August 25 2017 08:06 geript wrote:On August 25 2017 07:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 25 2017 06:44 Tumblewood wrote:
because that is the same meta geript uses on me all the time I am not sure if i believe this so this is a reminder to myself to check something on this tomorrow. It's not exactly true... From Generic: On July 14 2017 03:12 geript wrote:
I remember TW when he was a newbie. I remember his not being boring/dull/. Like he had some good observations (wrong but good) then. His scum game IIRC was much lower activity and struggled to post almost anything. He's likely a good lynch too. The thing is that during the last abortion of a game, when I was reading TW (in MS Paint Judge mafia) I was comparing him to older games to get can idea of any other meta reads I could use to push him. It's something that I noticed from his town play and something that HF picked up and agreed with in the game. On August 25 2017 06:21 Koshi wrote:On August 25 2017 06:14 geript wrote:I kinda like TW for town. Mostly because of this post: On August 25 2017 05:47 Tumblewood wrote:On August 25 2017 05:44 Koshi wrote:
I am pretty unhappy TW, LS and Damdred left the thread. nope i'm still here i just haven't cared enough to say anything else In part for flippant in part because Town!TW says what he thinks.
Everyone passing around the LS townread when they should know better is a bit weird.1/20 If you want to make 20 posts. It is better that you explain everything you claim. The bolded is completely unexplained and gives us nothing. LS is easy to read. I don't see why it is weird and I townread Damdred and Vivax for seeing it and calling it early. It generates discussion and easy townreads make mafia nervous. Mafia doesn't like easy townreads you see. Then they make comments like you just did. A few things here: 1. Only bad mafia hate early townreads. Like it's often quite easy to call someone town, move them into a situation where they look bad, rescind the townread and push them for lynch. I am not bad mafia. 2. LS in at least 1 game (though as far as I remembered multiple games) as scum has mimicked his "town puppy" persona to get townread and survived until endgame on it. Passing around a bad read is on the other hand makes it easy for scum to blend in. Hell, last game I basically literally just took what town was already thinking, repackaged it into nicer, newer, and better thinking and sold it as my own. On August 25 2017 06:55 Koshi wrote:
I dislike he scumreads me. Especially because he scumreads me because I don't meta townread rayn for a reason I would not meta read rayn town for. On August 25 2017 07:21 Koshi wrote:
For the record. I recognize the points made against Skynx. I do not know if it makes him mafia.
I think there is a chance still that he is town that made a very bad post.
geript on the other hand came in with a typical lazy mafia post. As town something in the thread would have triggered him, something about Koshi, rayn, HF or Vivax. Even Damdred maybe. But because he is mafia and lazy nothing really did, so he made an easy TW comment because he is "helping". When rayn confronted him he had to make something up and called rayn town and in the same breath called Koshi mafia because he isn't calling rayn town.
I do not believe town!geript makes that koshi read only after surrendering a town!rayn read. I think town!geript would have made that Koshi read while catching up and would have posted that instead of the TW town read.
I do believe mafia geript played lazy and showed face.
This is my read. Accept it. Who's getting mad about early townreads now Koshi? Koshi is scumreading me for scumreading him for not townreading rayn. Silliness aside. Hold with me, it's a bit circuitous but it's here. I've made it quite obvious on numerous occasions that I fucking hate playing scum when HF is town; as such, when I'm scum I basically become his thread bitch because I don't know how else to buy time in order to gain control of the thread until I get to NK HF. But the same is not true of Rayn. I know how to fuck with Rayn's head as mafia; I know what he looks at and looks for and can throw out a hook to get him super distracted. 1. As mafia, I gain nothing by giving Rayn an early townread and actually surrender thread control; which btw, I don't do as mafia (except for HF or maybe Marv but Marv because he's a fucking sexy beast). So his argument is not only bad, it's also incorrect. Vivax I haven't really played with in a while and I haven't had a correct read on him for a long time. Damdred I read town for how he reads people with "Damdred" reads and how he shows specific lines of thinking as town that he doesn't as scum. HF I read based on what he's pushing and why he's pushing; it's kinda a feels read but mostly based on him pushing "good things." Rayn I read based on what he's pushing and how he pushes; he likes to lynch bad as town and picks up on completely different things as mafia (example the Judge game where almost every time he came in the thread he pushed stupid shit that was bad). 2. When I make a read on Rayn for doing town!Rayn things, it's me being scum. When I don't comment on things about Vivax, HF, or Damdred because I'm either lacking any way to accurately read them (Vivax), I haven't seen them do things to read them town yet (Damdred), or I'm getting mixed vibes from (HF), then I'm scum. When I post about Koshi, I'm both scum for something not triggering me to post something about him AND scum for posting what I posted. Like, that's a pretty fucking weird argument for Koshi to be making at the same time; he's usually a bit more lazy as scum, and arguing both sides of the coin in the same post is pretty fucking weird for Town!Koshi to do. 3. Come at me bro 3/20 Yes I know I fooled people in the past in 2 of my scum games but Damdred usually gets me right except a few times when he either almost gets me mislynched or actually got me lynched on shannies. Damdred helped me a bit on my scum game I will tell you that as he was in a scum team with me where we almost won had it not been for sicklucker not giving a shit for a couple of cells (Cell Millionaire). Trust Damdred's read on me. Its interesting(scummy) how he says "trust" damdred's read when he doesnt know damdred's alignment. Or does he??? On August 25 2017 08:39 LightningStrike wrote:
Side note I think Damdred could be town this game as well as rayn and Koshi just need them to stop fighting each other. Also this is a pretty big "side" note that LS just brushes under. He isnt trying to find mafia, hes just going with the status quo and waiting for things to happen. First how was it a useless question when it's meta related? Second: Damdred usually can read me real well hence my comment about Damdred and I do think he's town this game. Third: I normally look for town first as town myself? It been a long time since we played with each other I know many things had changed o.o
Its a useless question because its such a general question. Meta is really unreliable for one post type things.
Ok so your perspective is wrong. How can we trust damdred's read if hes mafia? WE not you.
Also, its a tell that mafia like to say that other people are right rather than be confident in their one ability to appear townie
You arent even trying to find town, you just talk shit and give free townreads. Looking for town implies some form of activity where you LOOK for town, not say people are town when they dont say stupiud shit.
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Alright HF. The reason i don't think you should write off Artanis & Skynx as non-scumbuddies is the following;
The last game i was town in Skynx started the game in a "similar" manner (you remember his "rayn is scum but i didnt read the thread" case). That case was based on his understanding of my meta from the previous game where i was mafia. I think it's quite safe to say Skynx' early game (at least as town) and opener is heavily based on meta (and feels for it). I believe there is a high chance Skynx is trying to imitate this as mafia here. The reasoning is the following:
The whole thing on Koshi was very very stupid, like there was literally no thought process behind what he said. However that doesn't really make him mafia. What caught my attention was when he was making conclusions while at the same time saying "my post ("case" on Koshi) didn't make any sense at all in the first place" since you can't even start to make conclusions when the premises are already wrong and you KNOW it (why would ANYONE, with or without Koshi being mafia NOT call out dumb stuff liek that?). The rest of it + what you brought up was already discussed.
Now based on the above, i think there is also a chance Artanis realizes this Skynx' last game thingy. I think it's even likely it has been discussed in scum QT in case they are both mafia. Therefore it makes perfect sense that Artanis would soft-defend Skynx like he did. I mean like, i am not saying this is something that makes Artanis mafia. I am just saying it is entirely possible for him to be mafia with Skynx. The reasons i think Artanis is mafia are:
On August 25 2017 17:16 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On August 25 2017 07:43 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Like Skynx as well. Not for the content necessarily, but he put himself out there and even looked at a few other games of Koshi. Dno much about Skynx' mafia play and may be projecting how lazy I'd play as mafia but a cursory look of his last two scumgames suggests he doesn't really go for hard lynches. Koshi as town is pretty hard to lynch. Hedging on it though given how quickly he backtracked. 1) No talking about any actual content Skynx has given 2) No actual talking about any content other people have given on Skynx 3) Just some dilute analysis on playstyle and a weak conclusion baced basically on nothing
And then there is also this post:
On August 26 2017 00:35 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
I actually really hate that rayn focussed solely on my skynx read and didnt mention the point hf brought up regarding him saying the same thing to skynx last game to rels. Normally rayn goes after people that townread him for reasons he finds bad. He scumreads me anyway but doesnt mention it at all.
Rescinding rayn townread.
Why would i focus on anything other than his super duper terrible read?
I don't understand what the second sentence means?
"Normally rayn goes after people that townread him for reasons he finds bad" -- which means? Is Artanis saying his townread on me was bad? Shouldn't it make him mafia, not me? OR what is he trying to say here?
I have absolutely zero clue what Artanis is trying to do in this game or why he even comes up with his conclusions.
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On August 26 2017 02:48 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On August 26 2017 02:40 LightningStrike wrote:On August 26 2017 02:24 Oatsmaster wrote:On August 25 2017 06:10 LightningStrike wrote:
I was giving rayn his time to talk to Skynx while watching Impractical Jokers. Skynx being a bit combative towards rayn hmm. Is this normal behavior from Skynx as either alignment for those who got good amount of experience playing with him? Useless question. On August 25 2017 08:37 LightningStrike wrote:On August 25 2017 08:06 geript wrote:On August 25 2017 07:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 25 2017 06:44 Tumblewood wrote:
because that is the same meta geript uses on me all the time I am not sure if i believe this so this is a reminder to myself to check something on this tomorrow. It's not exactly true... From Generic: On July 14 2017 03:12 geript wrote:
I remember TW when he was a newbie. I remember his not being boring/dull/. Like he had some good observations (wrong but good) then. His scum game IIRC was much lower activity and struggled to post almost anything. He's likely a good lynch too. The thing is that during the last abortion of a game, when I was reading TW (in MS Paint Judge mafia) I was comparing him to older games to get can idea of any other meta reads I could use to push him. It's something that I noticed from his town play and something that HF picked up and agreed with in the game. On August 25 2017 06:21 Koshi wrote:On August 25 2017 06:14 geript wrote:I kinda like TW for town. Mostly because of this post: On August 25 2017 05:47 Tumblewood wrote:On August 25 2017 05:44 Koshi wrote:
I am pretty unhappy TW, LS and Damdred left the thread. nope i'm still here i just haven't cared enough to say anything else In part for flippant in part because Town!TW says what he thinks.
Everyone passing around the LS townread when they should know better is a bit weird.1/20 If you want to make 20 posts. It is better that you explain everything you claim. The bolded is completely unexplained and gives us nothing. LS is easy to read. I don't see why it is weird and I townread Damdred and Vivax for seeing it and calling it early. It generates discussion and easy townreads make mafia nervous. Mafia doesn't like easy townreads you see. Then they make comments like you just did. A few things here: 1. Only bad mafia hate early townreads. Like it's often quite easy to call someone town, move them into a situation where they look bad, rescind the townread and push them for lynch. I am not bad mafia. 2. LS in at least 1 game (though as far as I remembered multiple games) as scum has mimicked his "town puppy" persona to get townread and survived until endgame on it. Passing around a bad read is on the other hand makes it easy for scum to blend in. Hell, last game I basically literally just took what town was already thinking, repackaged it into nicer, newer, and better thinking and sold it as my own. On August 25 2017 06:55 Koshi wrote:
I dislike he scumreads me. Especially because he scumreads me because I don't meta townread rayn for a reason I would not meta read rayn town for. On August 25 2017 07:21 Koshi wrote:
For the record. I recognize the points made against Skynx. I do not know if it makes him mafia.
I think there is a chance still that he is town that made a very bad post.
geript on the other hand came in with a typical lazy mafia post. As town something in the thread would have triggered him, something about Koshi, rayn, HF or Vivax. Even Damdred maybe. But because he is mafia and lazy nothing really did, so he made an easy TW comment because he is "helping". When rayn confronted him he had to make something up and called rayn town and in the same breath called Koshi mafia because he isn't calling rayn town.
I do not believe town!geript makes that koshi read only after surrendering a town!rayn read. I think town!geript would have made that Koshi read while catching up and would have posted that instead of the TW town read.
I do believe mafia geript played lazy and showed face.
This is my read. Accept it. Who's getting mad about early townreads now Koshi? Koshi is scumreading me for scumreading him for not townreading rayn. Silliness aside. Hold with me, it's a bit circuitous but it's here. I've made it quite obvious on numerous occasions that I fucking hate playing scum when HF is town; as such, when I'm scum I basically become his thread bitch because I don't know how else to buy time in order to gain control of the thread until I get to NK HF. But the same is not true of Rayn. I know how to fuck with Rayn's head as mafia; I know what he looks at and looks for and can throw out a hook to get him super distracted. 1. As mafia, I gain nothing by giving Rayn an early townread and actually surrender thread control; which btw, I don't do as mafia (except for HF or maybe Marv but Marv because he's a fucking sexy beast). So his argument is not only bad, it's also incorrect. Vivax I haven't really played with in a while and I haven't had a correct read on him for a long time. Damdred I read town for how he reads people with "Damdred" reads and how he shows specific lines of thinking as town that he doesn't as scum. HF I read based on what he's pushing and why he's pushing; it's kinda a feels read but mostly based on him pushing "good things." Rayn I read based on what he's pushing and how he pushes; he likes to lynch bad as town and picks up on completely different things as mafia (example the Judge game where almost every time he came in the thread he pushed stupid shit that was bad). 2. When I make a read on Rayn for doing town!Rayn things, it's me being scum. When I don't comment on things about Vivax, HF, or Damdred because I'm either lacking any way to accurately read them (Vivax), I haven't seen them do things to read them town yet (Damdred), or I'm getting mixed vibes from (HF), then I'm scum. When I post about Koshi, I'm both scum for something not triggering me to post something about him AND scum for posting what I posted. Like, that's a pretty fucking weird argument for Koshi to be making at the same time; he's usually a bit more lazy as scum, and arguing both sides of the coin in the same post is pretty fucking weird for Town!Koshi to do. 3. Come at me bro 3/20 Yes I know I fooled people in the past in 2 of my scum games but Damdred usually gets me right except a few times when he either almost gets me mislynched or actually got me lynched on shannies. Damdred helped me a bit on my scum game I will tell you that as he was in a scum team with me where we almost won had it not been for sicklucker not giving a shit for a couple of cells (Cell Millionaire). Trust Damdred's read on me. Its interesting(scummy) how he says "trust" damdred's read when he doesnt know damdred's alignment. Or does he??? On August 25 2017 08:39 LightningStrike wrote:
Side note I think Damdred could be town this game as well as rayn and Koshi just need them to stop fighting each other. Also this is a pretty big "side" note that LS just brushes under. He isnt trying to find mafia, hes just going with the status quo and waiting for things to happen. First how was it a useless question when it's meta related? Second: Damdred usually can read me real well hence my comment about Damdred and I do think he's town this game. Third: I normally look for town first as town myself? It been a long time since we played with each other I know many things had changed o.o Its a useless question because its such a general question. Meta is really unreliable for one post type things. Ok so your perspective is wrong. How can we trust damdred's read if hes mafia? WE not you. Also, its a tell that mafia like to say that other people are right rather than be confident in their one ability to appear townie You arent even trying to find town, you just talk shit and give free townreads. Looking for town implies some form of activity where you LOOK for town, not say people are town when they dont say stupiud shit.
Because if Damdred is mafia he spewed me as town at this point. And I was and did asked some questions towards others????
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On August 26 2017 02:44 Tumblewood wrote:Show nested quote +On August 26 2017 02:42 Oatsmaster wrote:On August 26 2017 02:39 Tumblewood wrote:On August 26 2017 02:36 Oatsmaster wrote:
Cause it sure seems like you dont really care whos mafia and whos town. and fyi you didn't ask me who my townreads are. + Show Spoiler +allow me to take this opportunity to say ls, vivax, skynx, and koshi are likely town i dont care about townreads lol. ah, i see you approach the game differently than i do. a classic scenario
So its halfway through day 1, and you have 3 people town.
The reason I dont care about townreads is because the objective of the game is to lynch mafia, not find town people and waffle around during the day 1 lynch.
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Anyways I think Oats is town atm he playing to what I remembered which is boring and blunt but granted that was years ago since I played with him in Office Mini Mafia.
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Like really really closely read this:
Like Skynx as well. Not for the content necessarily, but he put himself out there and even looked at a few other games of Koshi.
Look a the bolded sentence. In fact this is how the sentence goes if you read the thread:
"he put himself out there and even looked at a few other games of Koshi after Vivax and a couple of other dudes told him he is talking bs." Does this look townie anymore, when you say what ACTUALLY happened?
Dno much about Skynx' mafia play
...but i also wont talk about the content of his posts AT ALL, just meta.
Well done.
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On August 26 2017 02:49 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On August 26 2017 02:48 Oatsmaster wrote:On August 26 2017 02:40 LightningStrike wrote:On August 26 2017 02:24 Oatsmaster wrote:On August 25 2017 06:10 LightningStrike wrote:
I was giving rayn his time to talk to Skynx while watching Impractical Jokers. Skynx being a bit combative towards rayn hmm. Is this normal behavior from Skynx as either alignment for those who got good amount of experience playing with him? Useless question. On August 25 2017 08:37 LightningStrike wrote:On August 25 2017 08:06 geript wrote:On August 25 2017 07:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 25 2017 06:44 Tumblewood wrote:
because that is the same meta geript uses on me all the time I am not sure if i believe this so this is a reminder to myself to check something on this tomorrow. It's not exactly true... From Generic: On July 14 2017 03:12 geript wrote:
I remember TW when he was a newbie. I remember his not being boring/dull/. Like he had some good observations (wrong but good) then. His scum game IIRC was much lower activity and struggled to post almost anything. He's likely a good lynch too. The thing is that during the last abortion of a game, when I was reading TW (in MS Paint Judge mafia) I was comparing him to older games to get can idea of any other meta reads I could use to push him. It's something that I noticed from his town play and something that HF picked up and agreed with in the game. On August 25 2017 06:21 Koshi wrote:On August 25 2017 06:14 geript wrote:I kinda like TW for town. Mostly because of this post: On August 25 2017 05:47 Tumblewood wrote:On August 25 2017 05:44 Koshi wrote:
I am pretty unhappy TW, LS and Damdred left the thread. nope i'm still here i just haven't cared enough to say anything else In part for flippant in part because Town!TW says what he thinks.
Everyone passing around the LS townread when they should know better is a bit weird.1/20 If you want to make 20 posts. It is better that you explain everything you claim. The bolded is completely unexplained and gives us nothing. LS is easy to read. I don't see why it is weird and I townread Damdred and Vivax for seeing it and calling it early. It generates discussion and easy townreads make mafia nervous. Mafia doesn't like easy townreads you see. Then they make comments like you just did. A few things here: 1. Only bad mafia hate early townreads. Like it's often quite easy to call someone town, move them into a situation where they look bad, rescind the townread and push them for lynch. I am not bad mafia. 2. LS in at least 1 game (though as far as I remembered multiple games) as scum has mimicked his "town puppy" persona to get townread and survived until endgame on it. Passing around a bad read is on the other hand makes it easy for scum to blend in. Hell, last game I basically literally just took what town was already thinking, repackaged it into nicer, newer, and better thinking and sold it as my own. On August 25 2017 06:55 Koshi wrote:
I dislike he scumreads me. Especially because he scumreads me because I don't meta townread rayn for a reason I would not meta read rayn town for. On August 25 2017 07:21 Koshi wrote:
For the record. I recognize the points made against Skynx. I do not know if it makes him mafia.
I think there is a chance still that he is town that made a very bad post.
geript on the other hand came in with a typical lazy mafia post. As town something in the thread would have triggered him, something about Koshi, rayn, HF or Vivax. Even Damdred maybe. But because he is mafia and lazy nothing really did, so he made an easy TW comment because he is "helping". When rayn confronted him he had to make something up and called rayn town and in the same breath called Koshi mafia because he isn't calling rayn town.
I do not believe town!geript makes that koshi read only after surrendering a town!rayn read. I think town!geript would have made that Koshi read while catching up and would have posted that instead of the TW town read.
I do believe mafia geript played lazy and showed face.
This is my read. Accept it. Who's getting mad about early townreads now Koshi? Koshi is scumreading me for scumreading him for not townreading rayn. Silliness aside. Hold with me, it's a bit circuitous but it's here. I've made it quite obvious on numerous occasions that I fucking hate playing scum when HF is town; as such, when I'm scum I basically become his thread bitch because I don't know how else to buy time in order to gain control of the thread until I get to NK HF. But the same is not true of Rayn. I know how to fuck with Rayn's head as mafia; I know what he looks at and looks for and can throw out a hook to get him super distracted. 1. As mafia, I gain nothing by giving Rayn an early townread and actually surrender thread control; which btw, I don't do as mafia (except for HF or maybe Marv but Marv because he's a fucking sexy beast). So his argument is not only bad, it's also incorrect. Vivax I haven't really played with in a while and I haven't had a correct read on him for a long time. Damdred I read town for how he reads people with "Damdred" reads and how he shows specific lines of thinking as town that he doesn't as scum. HF I read based on what he's pushing and why he's pushing; it's kinda a feels read but mostly based on him pushing "good things." Rayn I read based on what he's pushing and how he pushes; he likes to lynch bad as town and picks up on completely different things as mafia (example the Judge game where almost every time he came in the thread he pushed stupid shit that was bad). 2. When I make a read on Rayn for doing town!Rayn things, it's me being scum. When I don't comment on things about Vivax, HF, or Damdred because I'm either lacking any way to accurately read them (Vivax), I haven't seen them do things to read them town yet (Damdred), or I'm getting mixed vibes from (HF), then I'm scum. When I post about Koshi, I'm both scum for something not triggering me to post something about him AND scum for posting what I posted. Like, that's a pretty fucking weird argument for Koshi to be making at the same time; he's usually a bit more lazy as scum, and arguing both sides of the coin in the same post is pretty fucking weird for Town!Koshi to do. 3. Come at me bro 3/20 Yes I know I fooled people in the past in 2 of my scum games but Damdred usually gets me right except a few times when he either almost gets me mislynched or actually got me lynched on shannies. Damdred helped me a bit on my scum game I will tell you that as he was in a scum team with me where we almost won had it not been for sicklucker not giving a shit for a couple of cells (Cell Millionaire). Trust Damdred's read on me. Its interesting(scummy) how he says "trust" damdred's read when he doesnt know damdred's alignment. Or does he??? On August 25 2017 08:39 LightningStrike wrote:
Side note I think Damdred could be town this game as well as rayn and Koshi just need them to stop fighting each other. Also this is a pretty big "side" note that LS just brushes under. He isnt trying to find mafia, hes just going with the status quo and waiting for things to happen. First how was it a useless question when it's meta related? Second: Damdred usually can read me real well hence my comment about Damdred and I do think he's town this game. Third: I normally look for town first as town myself? It been a long time since we played with each other I know many things had changed o.o Its a useless question because its such a general question. Meta is really unreliable for one post type things. Ok so your perspective is wrong. How can we trust damdred's read if hes mafia? WE not you. Also, its a tell that mafia like to say that other people are right rather than be confident in their one ability to appear townie You arent even trying to find town, you just talk shit and give free townreads. Looking for town implies some form of activity where you LOOK for town, not say people are town when they dont say stupiud shit. Because if Damdred is mafia he spewed me as town at this point. And I was and did asked some questions towards others????
If damdred is mafia, he has ulterior motives for town reading you so we cant trust him. You should know this.
You didnt actually ask any questions other than the ruxxar bit. And you did nothing with that. You only said you thought he was scum when geript asked.
Most of your filter is you answering questions that dont mean anytthing.
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On August 26 2017 02:54 raynpelikoneet wrote:Like really really closely read this: Show nested quote +Like Skynx as well. Not for the content necessarily, but he put himself out there and even looked at a few other games of Koshi. Look a the bolded sentence. In fact this is how the sentence goes if you read the thread: "he put himself out there and even looked at a few other games of Koshi after Vivax and a couple of other dudes told him he is talking bs." Does this look townie anymore, when you say what ACTUALLY happened? ...but i also wont talk about the content of his posts AT ALL, just meta. Well done.
Who typed this?
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On August 26 2017 02:54 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On August 26 2017 02:49 LightningStrike wrote:On August 26 2017 02:48 Oatsmaster wrote:On August 26 2017 02:40 LightningStrike wrote:On August 26 2017 02:24 Oatsmaster wrote:On August 25 2017 06:10 LightningStrike wrote:
I was giving rayn his time to talk to Skynx while watching Impractical Jokers. Skynx being a bit combative towards rayn hmm. Is this normal behavior from Skynx as either alignment for those who got good amount of experience playing with him? Useless question. On August 25 2017 08:37 LightningStrike wrote:On August 25 2017 08:06 geript wrote:On August 25 2017 07:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 25 2017 06:44 Tumblewood wrote:
because that is the same meta geript uses on me all the time I am not sure if i believe this so this is a reminder to myself to check something on this tomorrow. It's not exactly true... From Generic: On July 14 2017 03:12 geript wrote:
I remember TW when he was a newbie. I remember his not being boring/dull/. Like he had some good observations (wrong but good) then. His scum game IIRC was much lower activity and struggled to post almost anything. He's likely a good lynch too. The thing is that during the last abortion of a game, when I was reading TW (in MS Paint Judge mafia) I was comparing him to older games to get can idea of any other meta reads I could use to push him. It's something that I noticed from his town play and something that HF picked up and agreed with in the game. On August 25 2017 06:21 Koshi wrote:On August 25 2017 06:14 geript wrote:I kinda like TW for town. Mostly because of this post: On August 25 2017 05:47 Tumblewood wrote:
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nope i'm still here i just haven't cared enough to say anything else In part for flippant in part because Town!TW says what he thinks.
Everyone passing around the LS townread when they should know better is a bit weird.1/20 If you want to make 20 posts. It is better that you explain everything you claim. The bolded is completely unexplained and gives us nothing. LS is easy to read. I don't see why it is weird and I townread Damdred and Vivax for seeing it and calling it early. It generates discussion and easy townreads make mafia nervous. Mafia doesn't like easy townreads you see. Then they make comments like you just did. A few things here: 1. Only bad mafia hate early townreads. Like it's often quite easy to call someone town, move them into a situation where they look bad, rescind the townread and push them for lynch. I am not bad mafia. 2. LS in at least 1 game (though as far as I remembered multiple games) as scum has mimicked his "town puppy" persona to get townread and survived until endgame on it. Passing around a bad read is on the other hand makes it easy for scum to blend in. Hell, last game I basically literally just took what town was already thinking, repackaged it into nicer, newer, and better thinking and sold it as my own. On August 25 2017 06:55 Koshi wrote:
I dislike he scumreads me. Especially because he scumreads me because I don't meta townread rayn for a reason I would not meta read rayn town for. On August 25 2017 07:21 Koshi wrote:
For the record. I recognize the points made against Skynx. I do not know if it makes him mafia.
I think there is a chance still that he is town that made a very bad post.
geript on the other hand came in with a typical lazy mafia post. As town something in the thread would have triggered him, something about Koshi, rayn, HF or Vivax. Even Damdred maybe. But because he is mafia and lazy nothing really did, so he made an easy TW comment because he is "helping". When rayn confronted him he had to make something up and called rayn town and in the same breath called Koshi mafia because he isn't calling rayn town.
I do not believe town!geript makes that koshi read only after surrendering a town!rayn read. I think town!geript would have made that Koshi read while catching up and would have posted that instead of the TW town read.
I do believe mafia geript played lazy and showed face.
This is my read. Accept it. Who's getting mad about early townreads now Koshi? Koshi is scumreading me for scumreading him for not townreading rayn. Silliness aside. Hold with me, it's a bit circuitous but it's here. I've made it quite obvious on numerous occasions that I fucking hate playing scum when HF is town; as such, when I'm scum I basically become his thread bitch because I don't know how else to buy time in order to gain control of the thread until I get to NK HF. But the same is not true of Rayn. I know how to fuck with Rayn's head as mafia; I know what he looks at and looks for and can throw out a hook to get him super distracted. 1. As mafia, I gain nothing by giving Rayn an early townread and actually surrender thread control; which btw, I don't do as mafia (except for HF or maybe Marv but Marv because he's a fucking sexy beast). So his argument is not only bad, it's also incorrect. Vivax I haven't really played with in a while and I haven't had a correct read on him for a long time. Damdred I read town for how he reads people with "Damdred" reads and how he shows specific lines of thinking as town that he doesn't as scum. HF I read based on what he's pushing and why he's pushing; it's kinda a feels read but mostly based on him pushing "good things." Rayn I read based on what he's pushing and how he pushes; he likes to lynch bad as town and picks up on completely different things as mafia (example the Judge game where almost every time he came in the thread he pushed stupid shit that was bad). 2. When I make a read on Rayn for doing town!Rayn things, it's me being scum. When I don't comment on things about Vivax, HF, or Damdred because I'm either lacking any way to accurately read them (Vivax), I haven't seen them do things to read them town yet (Damdred), or I'm getting mixed vibes from (HF), then I'm scum. When I post about Koshi, I'm both scum for something not triggering me to post something about him AND scum for posting what I posted. Like, that's a pretty fucking weird argument for Koshi to be making at the same time; he's usually a bit more lazy as scum, and arguing both sides of the coin in the same post is pretty fucking weird for Town!Koshi to do. 3. Come at me bro 3/20 Yes I know I fooled people in the past in 2 of my scum games but Damdred usually gets me right except a few times when he either almost gets me mislynched or actually got me lynched on shannies. Damdred helped me a bit on my scum game I will tell you that as he was in a scum team with me where we almost won had it not been for sicklucker not giving a shit for a couple of cells (Cell Millionaire). Trust Damdred's read on me. Its interesting(scummy) how he says "trust" damdred's read when he doesnt know damdred's alignment. Or does he??? On August 25 2017 08:39 LightningStrike wrote:
Side note I think Damdred could be town this game as well as rayn and Koshi just need them to stop fighting each other. Also this is a pretty big "side" note that LS just brushes under. He isnt trying to find mafia, hes just going with the status quo and waiting for things to happen. First how was it a useless question when it's meta related? Second: Damdred usually can read me real well hence my comment about Damdred and I do think he's town this game. Third: I normally look for town first as town myself? It been a long time since we played with each other I know many things had changed o.o Its a useless question because its such a general question. Meta is really unreliable for one post type things. Ok so your perspective is wrong. How can we trust damdred's read if hes mafia? WE not you. Also, its a tell that mafia like to say that other people are right rather than be confident in their one ability to appear townie You arent even trying to find town, you just talk shit and give free townreads. Looking for town implies some form of activity where you LOOK for town, not say people are town when they dont say stupiud shit. Because if Damdred is mafia he spewed me as town at this point. And I was and did asked some questions towards others???? If damdred is mafia, he has ulterior motives for town reading you so we cant trust him. You should know this. You didnt actually ask any questions other than the ruxxar bit. And you did nothing with that. You only said you thought he was scum when geript asked. Most of your filter is you answering questions that dont mean anytthing.
ruxxar didn't answer my question and Damdred asked the same question later. I wish he would answer the question. I know most of my filter was answering questions but some of them were directed towards me.
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On August 26 2017 02:50 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On August 26 2017 02:44 Tumblewood wrote:On August 26 2017 02:42 Oatsmaster wrote:On August 26 2017 02:39 Tumblewood wrote:On August 26 2017 02:36 Oatsmaster wrote:
Cause it sure seems like you dont really care whos mafia and whos town. and fyi you didn't ask me who my townreads are. + Show Spoiler +allow me to take this opportunity to say ls, vivax, skynx, and koshi are likely town i dont care about townreads lol. ah, i see you approach the game differently than i do. a classic scenario So its halfway through day 1, and you have 3 people town. The reason I dont care about townreads is because the objective of the game is to lynch mafia, not find town people and waffle around during the day 1 lynch.
it kinda does help when you can narrow the mafia pool down continuously and home in on 4-5 possible mafia. which is exactly what i plan to do. you can call townreads garbage, but i think your tells are way outdated, so how about i keep playing the game in a way that works for me and maybe we can lynch some mafia anyway.
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On August 26 2017 02:54 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On August 26 2017 02:54 raynpelikoneet wrote:Like really really closely read this: Like Skynx as well. Not for the content necessarily, but he put himself out there and even looked at a few other games of Koshi. Look a the bolded sentence. In fact this is how the sentence goes if you read the thread: "he put himself out there and even looked at a few other games of Koshi after Vivax and a couple of other dudes told him he is talking bs." Does this look townie anymore, when you say what ACTUALLY happened? Dno much about Skynx' mafia play ...but i also wont talk about the content of his posts AT ALL, just meta. Well done. Who typed this?
*Artanis
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On August 26 2017 02:57 Tumblewood wrote:Show nested quote +On August 26 2017 02:50 Oatsmaster wrote:On August 26 2017 02:44 Tumblewood wrote:On August 26 2017 02:42 Oatsmaster wrote:On August 26 2017 02:39 Tumblewood wrote:On August 26 2017 02:36 Oatsmaster wrote:
Cause it sure seems like you dont really care whos mafia and whos town. and fyi you didn't ask me who my townreads are. + Show Spoiler +allow me to take this opportunity to say ls, vivax, skynx, and koshi are likely town i dont care about townreads lol. ah, i see you approach the game differently than i do. a classic scenario So its halfway through day 1, and you have 3 people town. The reason I dont care about townreads is because the objective of the game is to lynch mafia, not find town people and waffle around during the day 1 lynch. it kinda does help when you can narrow the mafia pool down continuously and home in on 4-5 possible mafia. which is exactly what i plan to do. you can call townreads garbage, but i think your tells are way outdated, so how about i keep playing the game in a way that works for me and maybe we can lynch some mafia anyway.
Oats is a old school player to be fair. What is your read on him?
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On August 26 2017 02:49 raynpelikoneet wrote:Alright HF. The reason i don't think you should write off Artanis & Skynx as non-scumbuddies is the following; The last game i was town in Skynx started the game in a "similar" manner (you remember his "rayn is scum but i didnt read the thread" case). That case was based on his understanding of my meta from the previous game where i was mafia. I think it's quite safe to say Skynx' early game (at least as town) and opener is heavily based on meta (and feels for it). I believe there is a high chance Skynx is trying to imitate this as mafia here. The reasoning is the following: The whole thing on Koshi was very very stupid, like there was literally no thought process behind what he said. However that doesn't really make him mafia. What caught my attention was when he was making conclusions while at the same time saying "my post ("case" on Koshi) didn't make any sense at all in the first place" since you can't even start to make conclusions when the premises are already wrong and you KNOW it (why would ANYONE, with or without Koshi being mafia NOT call out dumb stuff liek that?). The rest of it + what you brought up was already discussed. Now based on the above, i think there is also a chance Artanis realizes this Skynx' last game thingy. I think it's even likely it has been discussed in scum QT in case they are both mafia. Therefore it makes perfect sense that Artanis would soft-defend Skynx like he did. I mean like, i am not saying this is something that makes Artanis mafia. I am just saying it is entirely possible for him to be mafia with Skynx. The reasons i think Artanis is mafia are: Show nested quote +On August 25 2017 17:16 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 25 2017 07:43 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Like Skynx as well. Not for the content necessarily, but he put himself out there and even looked at a few other games of Koshi. Dno much about Skynx' mafia play and may be projecting how lazy I'd play as mafia but a cursory look of his last two scumgames suggests he doesn't really go for hard lynches. Koshi as town is pretty hard to lynch. Hedging on it though given how quickly he backtracked. 1) No talking about any actual content Skynx has given 2) No actual talking about any content other people have given on Skynx 3) Just some dilute analysis on playstyle and a weak conclusion baced basically on nothing And then there is also this post: Show nested quote +On August 26 2017 00:35 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
I actually really hate that rayn focussed solely on my skynx read and didnt mention the point hf brought up regarding him saying the same thing to skynx last game to rels. Normally rayn goes after people that townread him for reasons he finds bad. He scumreads me anyway but doesnt mention it at all.
Rescinding rayn townread. Why would i focus on anything other than his super duper terrible read? I don't understand what the second sentence means? "Normally rayn goes after people that townread him for reasons he finds bad" -- which means? Is Artanis saying his townread on me was bad? Shouldn't it make him mafia, not me? OR what is he trying to say here? I have absolutely zero clue what Artanis is trying to do in this game or why he even comes up with his conclusions.
I don't know what you are doing.
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On August 26 2017 02:57 Tumblewood wrote:Show nested quote +On August 26 2017 02:50 Oatsmaster wrote:On August 26 2017 02:44 Tumblewood wrote:On August 26 2017 02:42 Oatsmaster wrote:On August 26 2017 02:39 Tumblewood wrote:On August 26 2017 02:36 Oatsmaster wrote:
Cause it sure seems like you dont really care whos mafia and whos town. and fyi you didn't ask me who my townreads are. + Show Spoiler +allow me to take this opportunity to say ls, vivax, skynx, and koshi are likely town i dont care about townreads lol. ah, i see you approach the game differently than i do. a classic scenario So its halfway through day 1, and you have 3 people town. The reason I dont care about townreads is because the objective of the game is to lynch mafia, not find town people and waffle around during the day 1 lynch. it kinda does help when you can narrow the mafia pool down continuously and home in on 4-5 possible mafia. which is exactly what i plan to do. you can call townreads garbage, but i think your tells are way outdated, so how about i keep playing the game in a way that works for me and maybe we can lynch some mafia anyway.
So whos mafia?
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Do you even scumread me afterall rayn?
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