[M][N] Names Are Hard 2 - Page 28

I'm the towniest of all. Also, I'm pretty sure that Koshi is mafia. His post towards you and asking about Damdred's townread is pretty out of place. As Town, you love to lynch stupid; it's like your kryptonite. But as mafia you have much less of a hardon for stupid from what I've seen and just push 85% bullshit. Koshi not getting this after the last two games is pretty odd; especially since Tina brought it up in generic and Koshi was bussing her at various points.

mafia
geript doesnt actually care about getting koshi lynched. He just wants to sidetrack town.

Skynx

Turkey7150 Posts

August 25 2017 17:20 GMT

#543

On August 25 2017 06:14 geript wrote:
I kinda like TW for town. Mostly because of this post:

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In part for flippant in part because Town!TW says what he thinks.

Everyone passing around the LS townread when they should know better is a bit weird.

1/20

There is 0 reason to tr TW in this game.

Skynx

Turkey7150 Posts

August 25 2017 17:22 GMT

#544

Goddamit that was spooky Oats

Holyflare

United Kingdom30775 Posts

August 25 2017 17:23 GMT

#545

No reason to town read tw

Oatsmaster

United States16628 Posts

August 25 2017 17:24 GMT

#546

On August 25 2017 06:10 LightningStrike wrote:
I was giving rayn his time to talk to Skynx while watching Impractical Jokers. Skynx being a bit combative towards rayn hmm. Is this normal behavior from Skynx as either alignment for those who got good amount of experience playing with him?

Useless question.

On August 25 2017 08:37 LightningStrike wrote:

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On August 25 2017 08:06 geript wrote:

On August 25 2017 07:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:

On August 25 2017 06:44 Tumblewood wrote:
because that is the same meta geript uses on me all the time

I am not sure if i believe this so this is a reminder to myself to check something on this tomorrow.

It's not exactly true...

From Generic:

On July 14 2017 03:12 geript wrote:
I remember TW when he was a newbie. I remember his not being boring/dull/. Like he had some good observations (wrong but good) then. His scum game IIRC was much lower activity and struggled to post almost anything. He's likely a good lynch too.

The thing is that during the last abortion of a game, when I was reading TW (in MS Paint Judge mafia) I was comparing him to older games to get can idea of any other meta reads I could use to push him. It's something that I noticed from his town play and something that HF picked up and agreed with in the game.

On August 25 2017 06:21 Koshi wrote:

On August 25 2017 06:14 geript wrote:
I kinda like TW for town. Mostly because of this post:

On August 25 2017 05:47 Tumblewood wrote:

On August 25 2017 05:44 Koshi wrote:
I am pretty unhappy TW, LS and Damdred left the thread.

nope i'm still here i just haven't cared enough to say anything else

In part for flippant in part because Town!TW says what he thinks.

Everyone passing around the LS townread when they should know better is a bit weird.

1/20

If you want to make 20 posts. It is better that you explain everything you claim.
The bolded is completely unexplained and gives us nothing. LS is easy to read. I don't see why it is weird and I townread Damdred and Vivax for seeing it and calling it early. It generates discussion and easy townreads make mafia nervous. Mafia doesn't like easy townreads you see. Then they make comments like you just did.

A few things here:
1. Only bad mafia hate early townreads. Like it's often quite easy to call someone town, move them into a situation where they look bad, rescind the townread and push them for lynch. I am not bad mafia.
2. LS in at least 1 game (though as far as I remembered multiple games) as scum has mimicked his "town puppy" persona to get townread and survived until endgame on it. Passing around a bad read is on the other hand makes it easy for scum to blend in. Hell, last game I basically literally just took what town was already thinking, repackaged it into nicer, newer, and better thinking and sold it as my own.

On August 25 2017 06:55 Koshi wrote:
I dislike he scumreads me. Especially because he scumreads me because I don't meta townread rayn for a reason I would not meta read rayn town for.

On August 25 2017 07:21 Koshi wrote:
For the record. I recognize the points made against Skynx. I do not know if it makes him mafia.
I think there is a chance still that he is town that made a very bad post.

geript on the other hand came in with a typical lazy mafia post. As town something in the thread would have triggered him, something about Koshi, rayn, HF or Vivax. Even Damdred maybe. But because he is mafia and lazy nothing really did, so he made an easy TW comment because he is "helping". When rayn confronted him he had to make something up and called rayn town and in the same breath called Koshi mafia because he isn't calling rayn town.

I do not believe town!geript makes that koshi read only after surrendering a town!rayn read. I think town!geript would have made that Koshi read while catching up and would have posted that instead of the TW town read.

I do believe mafia geript played lazy and showed face.

This is my read. Accept it.

Who's getting mad about early townreads now Koshi? Koshi is scumreading me for scumreading him for not townreading rayn. Silliness aside. Hold with me, it's a bit circuitous but it's here. I've made it quite obvious on numerous occasions that I fucking hate playing scum when HF is town; as such, when I'm scum I basically become his thread bitch because I don't know how else to buy time in order to gain control of the thread until I get to NK HF. But the same is not true of Rayn. I know how to fuck with Rayn's head as mafia; I know what he looks at and looks for and can throw out a hook to get him super distracted. 1. As mafia, I gain nothing by giving Rayn an early townread and actually surrender thread control; which btw, I don't do as mafia (except for HF or maybe Marv but Marv because he's a fucking sexy beast). So his argument is not only bad, it's also incorrect. Vivax I haven't really played with in a while and I haven't had a correct read on him for a long time. Damdred I read town for how he reads people with "Damdred" reads and how he shows specific lines of thinking as town that he doesn't as scum. HF I read based on what he's pushing and why he's pushing; it's kinda a feels read but mostly based on him pushing "good things." Rayn I read based on what he's pushing and how he pushes; he likes to lynch bad as town and picks up on completely different things as mafia (example the Judge game where almost every time he came in the thread he pushed stupid shit that was bad). 2. When I make a read on Rayn for doing town!Rayn things, it's me being scum. When I don't comment on things about Vivax, HF, or Damdred because I'm either lacking any way to accurately read them (Vivax), I haven't seen them do things to read them town yet (Damdred), or I'm getting mixed vibes from (HF), then I'm scum. When I post about Koshi, I'm both scum for something not triggering me to post something about him AND scum for posting what I posted. Like, that's a pretty fucking weird argument for Koshi to be making at the same time; he's usually a bit more lazy as scum, and arguing both sides of the coin in the same post is pretty fucking weird for Town!Koshi to do. 3. Come at me bro

3/20

Yes I know I fooled people in the past in 2 of my scum games but Damdred usually gets me right except a few times when he either almost gets me mislynched or actually got me lynched on shannies. Damdred helped me a bit on my scum game I will tell you that as he was in a scum team with me where we almost won had it not been for sicklucker not giving a shit for a couple of cells (Cell Millionaire). Trust Damdred's read on me.

Its interesting(scummy) how he says "trust" damdred's read when he doesnt know damdred's alignment. Or does he???

On August 25 2017 08:39 LightningStrike wrote:
Side note I think Damdred could be town this game as well as rayn and Koshi just need them to stop fighting each other.

Also this is a pretty big "side" note that LS just brushes under. He isnt trying to find mafia, hes just going with the status quo and waiting for things to happen.

Oatsmaster

United States16628 Posts

August 25 2017 17:25 GMT

#547

On August 25 2017 18:21 Vivax wrote:

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No idea but the idea is so abstruse to think of as mafia that I have to take it at face value.

Uneccesary town read without an alternative.

possible mafia.

Oatsmaster

United States16628 Posts

August 25 2017 17:26 GMT

#548

Actually i kinda like geript for townreading TW now.

Its not really worth it as mafia to defend his partner who has a decent chance of getting lynched today.

Oatsmaster

United States16628 Posts

August 25 2017 17:26 GMT

#549

Also with the vivax town read on him which makes 0 sense.

Fecalfeast

Canada11355 Posts

August 25 2017 17:28 GMT

#550

my bad there is a voting thread please vote there.
The op has been updated to avoid further confusion.

Oatsmaster

United States16628 Posts

August 25 2017 17:28 GMT

#551

noooooooo whyyyyy

Tumblewood

United States3709 Posts

August 25 2017 17:31 GMT

#552

i dunno what i expected from oats, but i did not expect that

Skynx

Turkey7150 Posts

August 25 2017 17:31 GMT

#553

On August 26 2017 02:26 Oatsmaster wrote:
Actually i kinda like geript for townreading TW now.

Its not really worth it as mafia to defend his partner who has a decent chance of getting lynched today.

Why do you think they are mafia together? Does geript read makes sense if TW is town?

I'm gona sheep Koshi here. geript picking out TW to tr as his 1st post when he has done nothing towny and there has been lots of other content to comment on.

Oatsmaster

United States16628 Posts

August 25 2017 17:32 GMT

#554

On August 26 2017 02:31 Tumblewood wrote:
i dunno what i expected from oats, but i did not expect that

Gotta any scumreads?

Tumblewood

United States3709 Posts

August 25 2017 17:33 GMT

#555

On August 26 2017 02:32 Oatsmaster wrote:

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Gotta any scumreads?

nope! except a weak one on rux for having an incredilame comeback

Oatsmaster

United States16628 Posts

August 25 2017 17:35 GMT

#556

On August 26 2017 02:31 Skynx wrote:

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Ok so if geript is mafia and TW is town, its an easy push for geript to not lock himself out from.

If geript is mafia and TW is mafia, geript just posted a totally unconvincing townread just so he, one vote, doesnt have to vote TW at the end of the day. There are many better things that he can do to end up with his vote on someone thats town. So this doesnt make sense to me.

If geript is town then hes just playing the game as he sees it.

From my perspective, the most likely situation is that geript is town.

Why is the bolded section scummy Skynx? how does that advance mafia objectives?