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[D] Hosting Games count as sit-outs?

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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25560 Posts
July 06 2017 19:53 GMT
#1
On July 06 2017 17:30 Koshi wrote:
You should be able to sit out games that you host.

On July 07 2017 04:49 Onegu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2017 17:30 Koshi wrote:
You should be able to sit out games that you host.



This should actually be a thing


Let's vote.

A basic argument in favor is, we want to encourage people to be active and host games, and when they do so it is a service to the community, on par with a new library article for example. It also takes time, time during which someone can't play, so it acts like a ban in this regard. Also, with reduced numbers of games happening per year, sitting out has gotten harder. This will make it easier.

A basic argument against is, this could be something that isn't really a "wait" for someone who is equally interested in hosting or gaming. In the sense of "a ban shouldn't be fun" this may fail in that regard. Also, it's possible that the pool of banned users wouldn't make good hosts in general.

I invite other members of TL Mafia to make arguments and cast their votes.


Poll: Should hosting a game count for a sit out?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): Other

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beentheredonethat
Profile Joined May 2016
2934 Posts
July 06 2017 20:12 GMT
#2
A basic argument against is, this could be something that isn't really a "wait" for someone who is equally interested in hosting or gaming. In the sense of "a ban shouldn't be fun" this may fail in that regard. Also, it's possible that the pool of banned users wouldn't make good hosts in general.

Since nobody prohibits you from signing up a game while you're hosting this argument shouldn't have too much weight. After all you do have to sit out the full duration of a game, PLUS you have to put in a lot of work while you wait.

It also encourages the idea of helping the community instead of only having personal disadvantages from a ban. I'm all for it.
"Micro tricks like marine splitting, blink stalker micro, and ling/baneling wars were the apex of the game’s achievements; nothing in the world takes your breath away like watching a pro player split marines like a god."
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
July 06 2017 20:56 GMT
#3
On July 07 2017 05:12 beentheredonethat wrote:
Show nested quote +
A basic argument against is, this could be something that isn't really a "wait" for someone who is equally interested in hosting or gaming. In the sense of "a ban shouldn't be fun" this may fail in that regard. Also, it's possible that the pool of banned users wouldn't make good hosts in general.

Since nobody prohibits you from signing up a game while you're hosting this argument shouldn't have too much weight. After all you do have to sit out the full duration of a game, PLUS you have to put in a lot of work while you wait.

It also encourages the idea of helping the community instead of only having personal disadvantages from a ban. I'm all for it.


This is exactly how I feel. I voted yes.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
July 06 2017 21:09 GMT
#4
This is a quite obvious no brainer. IMO it should count as 2 games.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
July 06 2017 21:10 GMT
#5
Sounds fine to me.

Would co-hosting apply too?

I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
July 06 2017 21:32 GMT
#6
I think the host should decide if the co-host gets credit.

But yeah I voted yes in this regard
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
July 06 2017 21:51 GMT
#7
I voted yes.
Anything that benefits the TL mafia community should be rewarded and I think this is a good way to do it.

I hope of course that no one is childish enough to abuse the system as to drop out of games they don't like for in-game reasons then make up for it by hosting games.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25560 Posts
July 06 2017 22:12 GMT
#8
On July 07 2017 06:51 ruXxar wrote:
I voted yes.
Anything that benefits the TL mafia community should be rewarded and I think this is a good way to do it.

I hope of course that no one is childish enough to abuse the system as to drop out of games they don't like for in-game reasons then make up for it by hosting games.


I don't think anyone would do that. If that were the case, we'd figure something out.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9647 Posts
July 06 2017 23:10 GMT
#9
i voted other and I'm not gonna give a reason
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
July 07 2017 03:54 GMT
#10
some people enjoy hosting games tho. I dont know why but I voted yes
beentheredonethat
Profile Joined May 2016
2934 Posts
July 07 2017 07:55 GMT
#11
On July 07 2017 12:54 sicklucker wrote:
some people enjoy hosting games tho. I dont know why but I voted yes

I know I do.
"Micro tricks like marine splitting, blink stalker micro, and ling/baneling wars were the apex of the game’s achievements; nothing in the world takes your breath away like watching a pro player split marines like a god."
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
July 07 2017 13:43 GMT
#12
On July 07 2017 16:55 beentheredonethat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2017 12:54 sicklucker wrote:
some people enjoy hosting games tho. I dont know why but I voted yes

I know I do.


Hence why the level of tlmafia hosting has dropped. 😘
Prison Break
Profile Joined April 2017
326 Posts
July 07 2017 13:50 GMT
#13
yes, hosting should be encouraged. don't disagree with it counting for 2 either depending on the kind of ban
beentheredonethat
Profile Joined May 2016
2934 Posts
July 07 2017 14:45 GMT
#14
On July 07 2017 22:43 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2017 16:55 beentheredonethat wrote:
On July 07 2017 12:54 sicklucker wrote:
some people enjoy hosting games tho. I dont know why but I voted yes

I know I do.


Hence why the level of tlmafia hosting has dropped. 😘

That's harsh. Should I stop hosting? If that is legitimate criticism I'll take it but I don't think (hope) it is .
"Micro tricks like marine splitting, blink stalker micro, and ling/baneling wars were the apex of the game’s achievements; nothing in the world takes your breath away like watching a pro player split marines like a god."
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
July 07 2017 16:23 GMT
#15
On July 07 2017 23:45 beentheredonethat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2017 22:43 Damdred wrote:
On July 07 2017 16:55 beentheredonethat wrote:
On July 07 2017 12:54 sicklucker wrote:
some people enjoy hosting games tho. I dont know why but I voted yes

I know I do.


Hence why the level of tlmafia hosting has dropped. 😘

That's harsh. Should I stop hosting? If that is legitimate criticism I'll take it but I don't think (hope) it is .


Nah your games are generally good imo
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-07-08 02:52:19
July 08 2017 02:51 GMT
#16
I think generally good isn't an appropriate definition.
Besides kitaman, Greymist, Artanis and Half the Sky, beentheredonethat has the best run games from the hosts that have hosted more than one game imo.
table for two on a tv tray
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22405 Posts
July 08 2017 08:30 GMT
#17
On July 08 2017 11:51 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I think generally good isn't an appropriate definition.
Besides kitaman, Greymist, Artanis and Half the Sky, beentheredonethat has the best run games from the hosts that have hosted more than one game imo.


You forgot Palmar
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 08 2017 09:10 GMT
#18
I dont like that he doeant send out notifications at all in case "not needed" so every time i am blue i have to ask him if he forgot about me or not
table for two on a tv tray
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25560 Posts
July 08 2017 09:17 GMT
#19
Whoa are we forgetting about my excellent hosting skills, which include always promptly doing a post-game writeup
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
TL+ Member
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 08 2017 11:09 GMT
#20
We might remember you by halloween.
table for two on a tv tray
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
July 08 2017 13:46 GMT
#21
On July 08 2017 20:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:
We might remember you by halloween.

10/10 post
Writer@WriterYamato
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25560 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-07-08 18:20:23
July 08 2017 18:19 GMT
#22
At 33-4, looks like people are generally in favor of letting hosting count as sitting a game out. Barring unusual circumstances, co-hosting is not a large amount of effort and commitment compared to hosting, so we'll just have hosting count, but in circumstances where a co-host is doing most of the work (vote counts, day/night posts, etc) they can contact me and it will count as a sitout. So, for example, HTS's co-hosting in TL Mafia LXXV certainly would qualify in my opinion.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
TL+ Member
Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
July 08 2017 23:14 GMT
#23
What about co hosting. Like if you are sitting out a game can you also co host it?

It lets you be useful instead of doing nothing.
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Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
July 09 2017 11:31 GMT
#24
On July 08 2017 11:51 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I think generally good isn't an appropriate definition.
Besides kitaman, Greymist, Artanis and Half the Sky, beentheredonethat has the best run games from the hosts that have hosted more than one game imo.


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