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Blazinghand
United States25559 Posts
On July 06 2017 17:30 Koshi wrote:
You should be able to sit out games that you host.
On July 07 2017 04:49 Onegu wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2017 17:30 Koshi wrote:
You should be able to sit out games that you host. This should actually be a thing
Let's vote.
A basic argument in favor is, we want to encourage people to be active and host games, and when they do so it is a service to the community, on par with a new library article for example. It also takes time, time during which someone can't play, so it acts like a ban in this regard. Also, with reduced numbers of games happening per year, sitting out has gotten harder. This will make it easier.
A basic argument against is, this could be something that isn't really a "wait" for someone who is equally interested in hosting or gaming. In the sense of "a ban shouldn't be fun" this may fail in that regard. Also, it's possible that the pool of banned users wouldn't make good hosts in general.
I invite other members of TL Mafia to make arguments and cast their votes.
Poll: Should hosting a game count for a sit out?(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): Other
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A basic argument against is, this could be something that isn't really a "wait" for someone who is equally interested in hosting or gaming. In the sense of "a ban shouldn't be fun" this may fail in that regard. Also, it's possible that the pool of banned users wouldn't make good hosts in general.
Since nobody prohibits you from signing up a game while you're hosting this argument shouldn't have too much weight. After all you do have to sit out the full duration of a game, PLUS you have to put in a lot of work while you wait.
It also encourages the idea of helping the community instead of only having personal disadvantages from a ban. I'm all for it.
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On July 07 2017 05:12 beentheredonethat wrote:Show nested quote +A basic argument against is, this could be something that isn't really a "wait" for someone who is equally interested in hosting or gaming. In the sense of "a ban shouldn't be fun" this may fail in that regard. Also, it's possible that the pool of banned users wouldn't make good hosts in general. Since nobody prohibits you from signing up a game while you're hosting this argument shouldn't have too much weight. After all you do have to sit out the full duration of a game, PLUS you have to put in a lot of work while you wait. It also encourages the idea of helping the community instead of only having personal disadvantages from a ban. I'm all for it.
This is exactly how I feel. I voted yes.
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United Kingdom30775 Posts
This is a quite obvious no brainer. IMO it should count as 2 games.
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kitaman27
United States9245 Posts
Sounds fine to me.
Would co-hosting apply too?
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I think the host should decide if the co-host gets credit.
But yeah I voted yes in this regard
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I voted yes.
Anything that benefits the TL mafia community should be rewarded and I think this is a good way to do it.
I hope of course that no one is childish enough to abuse the system as to drop out of games they don't like for in-game reasons then make up for it by hosting games.
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Blazinghand
United States25559 Posts
On July 07 2017 06:51 ruXxar wrote:
I voted yes.
Anything that benefits the TL mafia community should be rewarded and I think this is a good way to do it.
I hope of course that no one is childish enough to abuse the system as to drop out of games they don't like for in-game reasons then make up for it by hosting games.
I don't think anyone would do that. If that were the case, we'd figure something out.
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i voted other and I'm not gonna give a reason
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some people enjoy hosting games tho. I dont know why but I voted yes
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On July 07 2017 12:54 sicklucker wrote:
some people enjoy hosting games tho. I dont know why but I voted yes
I know I do.
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On July 07 2017 16:55 beentheredonethat wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2017 12:54 sicklucker wrote:
some people enjoy hosting games tho. I dont know why but I voted yes I know I do.
Hence why the level of tlmafia hosting has dropped. 😘
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yes, hosting should be encouraged. don't disagree with it counting for 2 either depending on the kind of ban
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On July 07 2017 22:43 Damdred wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2017 16:55 beentheredonethat wrote:On July 07 2017 12:54 sicklucker wrote:
some people enjoy hosting games tho. I dont know why but I voted yes I know I do. Hence why the level of tlmafia hosting has dropped. 😘
That's harsh. Should I stop hosting? If that is legitimate criticism I'll take it but I don't think (hope) it is  .
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On July 07 2017 23:45 beentheredonethat wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2017 22:43 Damdred wrote:On July 07 2017 16:55 beentheredonethat wrote:On July 07 2017 12:54 sicklucker wrote:
some people enjoy hosting games tho. I dont know why but I voted yes I know I do. Hence why the level of tlmafia hosting has dropped. 😘 That's harsh. Should I stop hosting? If that is legitimate criticism I'll take it but I don't think (hope) it is .
Nah your games are generally good imo
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I think generally good isn't an appropriate definition.
Besides kitaman, Greymist, Artanis and Half the Sky, beentheredonethat has the best run games from the hosts that have hosted more than one game imo.
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On July 08 2017 11:51 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I think generally good isn't an appropriate definition.
Besides kitaman, Greymist, Artanis and Half the Sky, beentheredonethat has the best run games from the hosts that have hosted more than one game imo.
You forgot Palmar
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I dont like that he doeant send out notifications at all in case "not needed" so every time i am blue i have to ask him if he forgot about me or not
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Blazinghand
United States25559 Posts
Whoa are we forgetting about my excellent hosting skills, which include always promptly doing a post-game writeup
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We might remember you by halloween.
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11589 Posts
On July 08 2017 20:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:
We might remember you by halloween.
10/10 post
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Blazinghand
United States25559 Posts
At 33-4, looks like people are generally in favor of letting hosting count as sitting a game out. Barring unusual circumstances, co-hosting is not a large amount of effort and commitment compared to hosting, so we'll just have hosting count, but in circumstances where a co-host is doing most of the work (vote counts, day/night posts, etc) they can contact me and it will count as a sitout. So, for example, HTS's co-hosting in TL Mafia LXXV certainly would qualify in my opinion.
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What about co hosting. Like if you are sitting out a game can you also co host it?
It lets you be useful instead of doing nothing.
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United Kingdom30775 Posts
On July 08 2017 11:51 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I think generally good isn't an appropriate definition.
Besides kitaman, Greymist, Artanis and Half the Sky, beentheredonethat has the best run games from the hosts that have hosted more than one game imo.
Wow
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