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Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
July 16 2017 13:34 GMT
#1721
On July 16 2017 22:24 ruXxar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2017 22:19 Holyflare wrote:
A framer with a miller in this game would be bull shit


Having two confirmed towns and a cop in a 13 man game is incredibly town sided.

I personally think having mssons in a mini mafia game is quite a fun killer.


On July 16 2017 06:28 ruXxar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2017 06:03 Holyflare wrote:
Time to get real k. Dand and geript aren't masons.

Rels is red check.

##vote rels


Why are they not masons?


and yet when I questioned it you were the one trying to throw shade at it

there's absolutely no way you're town here
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
July 16 2017 13:35 GMT
#1722
On July 16 2017 22:22 Holyflare wrote:
But also let me just get this straight.

If you have concerns that I'm mafia fake claiming and have already determined that if rels were to flip green I should be lynched why are you checking something so obvious with the thread?

Furthermore, since you have this thought process you absolutely need to explain what my mafia motivation is (that thing you completely love saying) to claim a red check on a rels that will inevitably flip green and lose all the amazing town credit I have from 90% of the game? What's the play? Trade one me for one afk rels for no reason?


The mafia motivation is this:

Koshi is mafia.
If you are mafia you don't want koshi to be lynched, which is a high possibility tomorrow.

Rels already looks bad and is afk, so with a fake cop check it should be easy to push his lynch.

This buys you a free lynch, and takes attention away from koshi.

Later you argue that there is a framer in the game for balance.

I'm not saying you are mafia now, but I want to hedge myself for that possibility so you don't slip away.

I know you are good player and hold you in such high regard that I know you could easily make such a play if you wanted to.

Plus; you said the game wa boring, so maybe you decided to have a little fun.
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
July 16 2017 13:37 GMT
#1723
The last time I claimed cop I faked a check (but was real cop) and got lynched instantly.

There's 0% chance I ever do that again. Especially as mafia I know there's absolutely no way to talk out of that.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
July 16 2017 13:37 GMT
#1724
And besides why in your scenario is there no actual room for there to be a framer in "for balance" and for me to be the real cop?
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
July 16 2017 13:39 GMT
#1725
On July 16 2017 22:34 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2017 22:24 ruXxar wrote:
On July 16 2017 22:19 Holyflare wrote:
A framer with a miller in this game would be bull shit


Having two confirmed towns and a cop in a 13 man game is incredibly town sided.

I personally think having mssons in a mini mafia game is quite a fun killer.


Show nested quote +
On July 16 2017 06:28 ruXxar wrote:
On July 16 2017 06:03 Holyflare wrote:
Time to get real k. Dand and geript aren't masons.

Rels is red check.

##vote rels


Why are they not masons?


and yet when I questioned it you were the one trying to throw shade at it

there's absolutely no way you're town here


You are cherry picking quotes taking it out of context.

If you had read my filter you would've found this.

On July 15 2017 23:02 ruXxar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2017 22:37 emperorchampion wrote:
On July 15 2017 22:13 ruXxar wrote:
On July 15 2017 21:49 emperorchampion wrote:
On July 15 2017 21:41 ruXxar wrote:
On July 15 2017 19:13 emperorchampion wrote:
Rux who else is scum for you right now


Koshi is lock scum.

Rayn is lock town.
Tumble is lock town.

Everyone else are in a fleeting state of scum leans.
I feel like I have very few solid town reads so far, and it's bothering me.



what about damdy and geript?


Damdred is a hard read.
I feel like every time he says something it's very restrained.

Gives a sort of xata mafia vibe, but that is just superficial stuff.
I don't have anything solid on him.

Geript on the other hand, I kinda want to die regardless of his alignment.

I don't think skynx and geript are mafia together, and I regrettably have to admit that as much as I dislike geript and that he is a proven liar, I don't have any solid reason to call him lock scum.

I'll have to do some filtering of both of those to see if there's some long running agenda I might've missed.

that will have to wait though, I'm on the move-Ish right now.


So you don't believe the mason claim. Is there any reason why not?


Why should I believe it?
I don't see any reason to.

"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
July 16 2017 13:40 GMT
#1726
what roles do you think mafia has against one shot cop and two masons?
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
July 16 2017 13:44 GMT
#1727
On July 16 2017 22:40 Holyflare wrote:
what roles do you think mafia has against one shot cop and two masons?


It doesn't matter because I'm lynching you regardless if rels is town.
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
July 16 2017 13:48 GMT
#1728
On July 16 2017 22:37 Holyflare wrote:
And besides why in your scenario is there no actual room for there to be a framer in "for balance" and for me to be the real cop?


The % chance of there being a framer the game and framing rels the exact night you check him is too low to take with any ounce of seriousness.
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
July 16 2017 13:51 GMT
#1729
Who would a framer frame then?
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
July 16 2017 13:54 GMT
#1730
On July 16 2017 22:51 Holyflare wrote:
Who would a framer frame then?


Are you saying that you are expecting to get framed?
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
July 16 2017 13:57 GMT
#1731
No, I'm trying to imagine what it's like to be a town ruxxar who says the masons aren't real but also that the cop claim is fake and also that a framer can't exist if they're both real but then wouldn't know who they would frame but then thinks the person who doesn't fake claim cop would fake claim cop as mafia for a 0% play to save koshi and trade 2 of the mafia team instead of just 1.

I'm struggling a lot.
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
July 16 2017 13:59 GMT
#1732
On July 16 2017 22:57 Holyflare wrote:
No, I'm trying to imagine what it's like to be a town ruxxar who says the masons aren't real but also that the cop claim is fake and also that a framer can't exist if they're both real but then wouldn't know who they would frame but then thinks the person who doesn't fake claim cop would fake claim cop as mafia for a 0% play to save koshi and trade 2 of the mafia team instead of just 1.

I'm struggling a lot.


Then let's not waste more time discussing framers and just accept that if rels is green we lynch you.
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
July 16 2017 14:00 GMT
#1733
I can't explain your thought processes in any other way than mafia.

You have so many dumps of drivel it's ridiculous. You say I'm cherry picking that I didn't quote how you disbelieved the masons and instead believed them and not me.

Then you're saying I'm probably fake claiming and haven't even put a vote on rels the whole day which makes the above statement false.

Then you say that you think masons in a game are broken but for some reason still disbelieve a 1 shot cop with a red check.

Then you say if rels is green that I'm definitely mafia even though there is no reason in this world to fake claim ever.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
July 16 2017 14:00 GMT
#1734
On July 16 2017 06:03 Holyflare wrote:
Time to get real k. Dand and geript aren't masons.

Rels is red check.

##vote rels

lol. Are you 100% committing to that ? It would make the game easy
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
July 16 2017 14:01 GMT
#1735
I will never go down without a fight. If rels is green there is a confirmed framer. I will dump as much thought as possible into the game and never stop fighting.
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
July 16 2017 14:03 GMT
#1736
On July 16 2017 23:00 Holyflare wrote:
I can't explain your thought processes in any other way than mafia.

You have so many dumps of drivel it's ridiculous. You say I'm cherry picking that I didn't quote how you disbelieved the masons and instead believed them and not me.

Then you're saying I'm probably fake claiming and haven't even put a vote on rels the whole day which makes the above statement false.

Then you say that you think masons in a game are broken but for some reason still disbelieve a 1 shot cop with a red check.

Then you say if rels is green that I'm definitely mafia even though there is no reason in this world to fake claim ever.


I said I'm *concerned* about you fake claiming.
That's far away from "probably".
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
July 16 2017 14:03 GMT
#1737
On July 16 2017 23:01 Holyflare wrote:
I will never go down without a fight. If rels is green there is a confirmed framer. I will dump as much thought as possible into the game and never stop fighting.

Framer almost always frames their own team. So you're committing I see.
Noone else shall be lynched until one of me / HF flips scum
##Vote Holyflare
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
July 16 2017 14:04 GMT
#1738
On July 16 2017 23:01 Holyflare wrote:
I will never go down without a fight. If rels is green there is a confirmed framer. I will dump as much thought as possible into the game and never stop fighting.


If rels is green you are mafia.
End of discussion.
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
July 16 2017 14:07 GMT
#1739
On July 16 2017 23:04 ruXxar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2017 23:01 Holyflare wrote:
I will never go down without a fight. If rels is green there is a confirmed framer. I will dump as much thought as possible into the game and never stop fighting.


If rels is green you are mafia.
End of discussion.

good
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
July 16 2017 14:08 GMT
#1740
Well I'm not but glad we're clearing that up
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