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On July 16 2017 19:40 emperorchampion wrote:Show nested quote +On July 16 2017 19:32 ruXxar wrote:On July 16 2017 12:46 Tumblewood wrote:On July 15 2017 21:54 raynpelikoneet wrote: Also Skynx is not mafia. Noone will never ever come into the game as mafia making a case on someone and at the same time being completely aware they haven't even read the half of what the said dude said. Never. wow, it's not often that a point is good enough that i actually listen to it. it's not infallible but it's a real good thing to consider and i think skynx is town Why do you make this post now? It's out of context. How so out of context? I respect rayns read, part of what makes me think that skynx could just be lazy so far. I don't think it's as alignment indicative as rayn tho. Tumbles response is kinda weird. Does tumble have other things supporting skynx town? I don't remember fully, just the part where he said that skynx wasn't an ideal off wagon. Not sure if this point alone is enough to justify a town read but depends on his previous stance to me.
What I mean is that it's random that TW comes back and makes that post.
I don't disagree with what Rayn said, but why does TW come back and that is one of the posts he makes?
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On July 16 2017 19:47 ruXxar wrote:Show nested quote +On July 16 2017 19:40 emperorchampion wrote:On July 16 2017 19:32 ruXxar wrote:On July 16 2017 12:46 Tumblewood wrote:On July 15 2017 21:54 raynpelikoneet wrote: Also Skynx is not mafia. Noone will never ever come into the game as mafia making a case on someone and at the same time being completely aware they haven't even read the half of what the said dude said. Never. wow, it's not often that a point is good enough that i actually listen to it. it's not infallible but it's a real good thing to consider and i think skynx is town Why do you make this post now? It's out of context. How so out of context? I respect rayns read, part of what makes me think that skynx could just be lazy so far. I don't think it's as alignment indicative as rayn tho. Tumbles response is kinda weird. Does tumble have other things supporting skynx town? I don't remember fully, just the part where he said that skynx wasn't an ideal off wagon. Not sure if this point alone is enough to justify a town read but depends on his previous stance to me. What I mean is that it's random that TW comes back and makes that post. I don't disagree with what Rayn said, but why does TW come back and that is one of the posts he makes?
He made 1 other catching up post, so not too out of context
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D2: Vote Count #1
- Rels (7) - Holyflare, sicklucker, Skynx, Damdred, geript, ruXxar, Tumblewood
- Koshi (1) -
ruXxar, emperorchampion
Non-voters (3) - Rels, Vivax, Koshi
Someone, apparently Rels, is about to leave us in (at Monday, Jul 17 9:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00)).
Voting is mandatory!
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Non-voters (3) - Rels, Vivax, Koshi
lol mafia team
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On July 16 2017 20:01 emperorchampion wrote:Show nested quote +On July 16 2017 19:47 ruXxar wrote:On July 16 2017 19:40 emperorchampion wrote:On July 16 2017 19:32 ruXxar wrote:On July 16 2017 12:46 Tumblewood wrote:On July 15 2017 21:54 raynpelikoneet wrote: Also Skynx is not mafia. Noone will never ever come into the game as mafia making a case on someone and at the same time being completely aware they haven't even read the half of what the said dude said. Never. wow, it's not often that a point is good enough that i actually listen to it. it's not infallible but it's a real good thing to consider and i think skynx is town Why do you make this post now? It's out of context. How so out of context? I respect rayns read, part of what makes me think that skynx could just be lazy so far. I don't think it's as alignment indicative as rayn tho. Tumbles response is kinda weird. Does tumble have other things supporting skynx town? I don't remember fully, just the part where he said that skynx wasn't an ideal off wagon. Not sure if this point alone is enough to justify a town read but depends on his previous stance to me. What I mean is that it's random that TW comes back and makes that post. I don't disagree with what Rayn said, but why does TW come back and that is one of the posts he makes? He made 1 other catching up post, so not too out of context
Yes, but why specifically that one?
Examples of thought processes:
"I was filtering Rayn and came over this tidbit" "I was looking for a reason to call skynx town".
When he doesn't share his thoughtprocess it leaves us with imperfect information.
Imperfect information leads to assumptions.
Assumptions in a game of mafia naturally leads to suspicion.
If he wants to be townread he should leave as little as possible to our imagination.
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On July 16 2017 20:49 Holyflare wrote: Non-voters (3) - Rels, Vivax, Koshi
lol mafia team Vivax was pretty much given a free town pass by everyone so idk why he hasn't posted lol
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On July 16 2017 20:52 ruXxar wrote:Show nested quote +On July 16 2017 20:01 emperorchampion wrote:On July 16 2017 19:47 ruXxar wrote:On July 16 2017 19:40 emperorchampion wrote:On July 16 2017 19:32 ruXxar wrote:On July 16 2017 12:46 Tumblewood wrote:On July 15 2017 21:54 raynpelikoneet wrote: Also Skynx is not mafia. Noone will never ever come into the game as mafia making a case on someone and at the same time being completely aware they haven't even read the half of what the said dude said. Never. wow, it's not often that a point is good enough that i actually listen to it. it's not infallible but it's a real good thing to consider and i think skynx is town Why do you make this post now? It's out of context. How so out of context? I respect rayns read, part of what makes me think that skynx could just be lazy so far. I don't think it's as alignment indicative as rayn tho. Tumbles response is kinda weird. Does tumble have other things supporting skynx town? I don't remember fully, just the part where he said that skynx wasn't an ideal off wagon. Not sure if this point alone is enough to justify a town read but depends on his previous stance to me. What I mean is that it's random that TW comes back and makes that post. I don't disagree with what Rayn said, but why does TW come back and that is one of the posts he makes? He made 1 other catching up post, so not too out of context Yes, but why specifically that one? Examples of thought processes: "I was filtering Rayn and came over this tidbit" "I was looking for a reason to call skynx town". When he doesn't share his thoughtprocess it leaves us with imperfect information. Imperfect information leads to assumptions. Assumptions in a game of mafia naturally leads to suspicion. If he wants to be townread he should leave as little as possible to our imagination.
It could be something, but to me it's pretty nai
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On July 16 2017 20:49 Holyflare wrote: Non-voters (3) - Rels, Vivax, Koshi
lol mafia team
What do you think about my post on TW?
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Vote count is wrong btw, I should be on koshi
Felt like I was taking crazy pills for a second there
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On July 16 2017 21:04 emperorchampion wrote: Vote count is wrong btw, I should be on koshi
Felt like I was taking crazy pills for a second there Corrected.
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On July 16 2017 20:57 emperorchampion wrote:Show nested quote +On July 16 2017 20:52 ruXxar wrote:On July 16 2017 20:01 emperorchampion wrote:On July 16 2017 19:47 ruXxar wrote:On July 16 2017 19:40 emperorchampion wrote:On July 16 2017 19:32 ruXxar wrote:On July 16 2017 12:46 Tumblewood wrote:On July 15 2017 21:54 raynpelikoneet wrote: Also Skynx is not mafia. Noone will never ever come into the game as mafia making a case on someone and at the same time being completely aware they haven't even read the half of what the said dude said. Never. wow, it's not often that a point is good enough that i actually listen to it. it's not infallible but it's a real good thing to consider and i think skynx is town Why do you make this post now? It's out of context. How so out of context? I respect rayns read, part of what makes me think that skynx could just be lazy so far. I don't think it's as alignment indicative as rayn tho. Tumbles response is kinda weird. Does tumble have other things supporting skynx town? I don't remember fully, just the part where he said that skynx wasn't an ideal off wagon. Not sure if this point alone is enough to justify a town read but depends on his previous stance to me. What I mean is that it's random that TW comes back and makes that post. I don't disagree with what Rayn said, but why does TW come back and that is one of the posts he makes? He made 1 other catching up post, so not too out of context Yes, but why specifically that one? Examples of thought processes: "I was filtering Rayn and came over this tidbit" "I was looking for a reason to call skynx town". When he doesn't share his thoughtprocess it leaves us with imperfect information. Imperfect information leads to assumptions. Assumptions in a game of mafia naturally leads to suspicion. If he wants to be townread he should leave as little as possible to our imagination. It could be something, but to me it's pretty nai
By itself, yes. But forcing him to explain it can lead to inconsistencies in his explanation over a longer period of time.
A scum player doesn't have a set of reads in his head that he keeps mulling over and reevaluates over the timeline of the game.
They already know they alignment of everyone. As such it's very easy for scum to trip over their own reads or contradict themselves.
They don't have the same natural flow of timeline in their head where their town and scum reads are living.
Instead they make static reads based part on thread sentiment and part based on some inconsistency they think they found on another player.
At first glance that might look pretty townie, but as mafia your reads tend to go stale.
You made a case on a person and that's it. You don't follow the flow of the thread and update your reads. You stick with the case you made on that person and that's it.
As such it's hard to keep a consistent stream of reads, especially scum reads as mafia.
Anyway.
The reason I'm prodding TW about it is because I want to see if there's a genuine thought process that I can associate with the rest of his play(consistency in play) and that it's not just an artificial read produced to fit his mafia gameplan.
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A thread PSA:
I'm traveling by car on a road trip tonight at 10pm ish. I won't arrive at my destination until the next morning.
I won't be available during that time.
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Just so it's out there.
If rels flips green, we are lynching HF, correct?
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United Kingdom30774 Posts
Are you doing retarded mafia siding things intentionally?
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On July 16 2017 21:59 Holyflare wrote: Are you doing retarded mafia siding things intentionally?
No.
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Then why even ask? I'm town read by everyone in this game and have no reason to fake claim and rels and koshi a red check and your top scum read are just afk doing nothing.
Why would you even ask that question at that point? Break down your thought process to me.
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On July 16 2017 22:10 Holyflare wrote: Then why even ask? I'm town read by everyone in this game and have no reason to fake claim and rels and koshi a red check and your top scum read are just afk doing nothing.
Why would you even ask that question at that point? Break down your thought process to me.
1) Because I'm concerned that you are mafia fake-claiming.
And if rels flips green you're going to claim that mafia has a framer to balance out the masons/cop.
If rels flips green I'm not going to believe such a claim from you.
2) what do you mean "and koshi a red check"?
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United Kingdom30774 Posts
A framer with a miller in this game would be bull shit
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But also let me just get this straight.
If you have concerns that I'm mafia fake claiming and have already determined that if rels were to flip green I should be lynched why are you checking something so obvious with the thread?
Furthermore, since you have this thought process you absolutely need to explain what my mafia motivation is (that thing you completely love saying) to claim a red check on a rels that will inevitably flip green and lose all the amazing town credit I have from 90% of the game? What's the play? Trade one me for one afk rels for no reason?
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On July 16 2017 22:19 Holyflare wrote: A framer with a miller in this game would be bull shit
Having two confirmed towns and a cop in a 13 man game is incredibly town sided.
I personally think having mssons in a mini mafia game is quite a fun killer.
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