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ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
July 16 2017 10:47 GMT
#1701
On July 16 2017 19:40 emperorchampion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2017 19:32 ruXxar wrote:
On July 16 2017 12:46 Tumblewood wrote:
On July 15 2017 21:54 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Also Skynx is not mafia.
Noone will never ever come into the game as mafia making a case on someone and at the same time being completely aware they haven't even read the half of what the said dude said. Never.

wow, it's not often that a point is good enough that i actually listen to it. it's not infallible but it's a real good thing to consider and i think skynx is town


Why do you make this post now?
It's out of context.


How so out of context?

I respect rayns read, part of what makes me think that skynx could just be lazy so far. I don't think it's as alignment indicative as rayn tho. Tumbles response is kinda weird. Does tumble have other things supporting skynx town? I don't remember fully, just the part where he said that skynx wasn't an ideal off wagon. Not sure if this point alone is enough to justify a town read but depends on his previous stance to me.


What I mean is that it's random that TW comes back and makes that post.

I don't disagree with what Rayn said, but why does TW come back and that is one of the posts he makes?
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
July 16 2017 11:01 GMT
#1702
On July 16 2017 19:47 ruXxar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2017 19:40 emperorchampion wrote:
On July 16 2017 19:32 ruXxar wrote:
On July 16 2017 12:46 Tumblewood wrote:
On July 15 2017 21:54 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Also Skynx is not mafia.
Noone will never ever come into the game as mafia making a case on someone and at the same time being completely aware they haven't even read the half of what the said dude said. Never.

wow, it's not often that a point is good enough that i actually listen to it. it's not infallible but it's a real good thing to consider and i think skynx is town


Why do you make this post now?
It's out of context.


How so out of context?

I respect rayns read, part of what makes me think that skynx could just be lazy so far. I don't think it's as alignment indicative as rayn tho. Tumbles response is kinda weird. Does tumble have other things supporting skynx town? I don't remember fully, just the part where he said that skynx wasn't an ideal off wagon. Not sure if this point alone is enough to justify a town read but depends on his previous stance to me.


What I mean is that it's random that TW comes back and makes that post.

I don't disagree with what Rayn said, but why does TW come back and that is one of the posts he makes?


He made 1 other catching up post, so not too out of context
TRUEESPORTS || your days as a respected member of team liquid are over
beentheredonethat
Profile Joined May 2016
2934 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-07-16 12:08:24
July 16 2017 11:36 GMT
#1703
D2: Vote Count #1


  • Rels (7) - Holyflare, sicklucker, Skynx, Damdred, geript, ruXxar, Tumblewood
  • Koshi (1) - ruXxar, emperorchampion


Non-voters (3) - Rels, Vivax, Koshi



Someone, apparently Rels, is about to leave us in (at Monday, Jul 17 9:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00)).

Voting is mandatory!

"Micro tricks like marine splitting, blink stalker micro, and ling/baneling wars were the apex of the game’s achievements; nothing in the world takes your breath away like watching a pro player split marines like a god."
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
July 16 2017 11:49 GMT
#1704
Non-voters (3) - Rels, Vivax, Koshi

lol mafia team
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
July 16 2017 11:52 GMT
#1705
On July 16 2017 20:01 emperorchampion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2017 19:47 ruXxar wrote:
On July 16 2017 19:40 emperorchampion wrote:
On July 16 2017 19:32 ruXxar wrote:
On July 16 2017 12:46 Tumblewood wrote:
On July 15 2017 21:54 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Also Skynx is not mafia.
Noone will never ever come into the game as mafia making a case on someone and at the same time being completely aware they haven't even read the half of what the said dude said. Never.

wow, it's not often that a point is good enough that i actually listen to it. it's not infallible but it's a real good thing to consider and i think skynx is town


Why do you make this post now?
It's out of context.


How so out of context?

I respect rayns read, part of what makes me think that skynx could just be lazy so far. I don't think it's as alignment indicative as rayn tho. Tumbles response is kinda weird. Does tumble have other things supporting skynx town? I don't remember fully, just the part where he said that skynx wasn't an ideal off wagon. Not sure if this point alone is enough to justify a town read but depends on his previous stance to me.


What I mean is that it's random that TW comes back and makes that post.

I don't disagree with what Rayn said, but why does TW come back and that is one of the posts he makes?


He made 1 other catching up post, so not too out of context


Yes, but why specifically that one?

Examples of thought processes:

"I was filtering Rayn and came over this tidbit"
"I was looking for a reason to call skynx town".

When he doesn't share his thoughtprocess it leaves us with imperfect information.

Imperfect information leads to assumptions.

Assumptions in a game of mafia naturally leads to suspicion.

If he wants to be townread he should leave as little as possible to our imagination.
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
July 16 2017 11:55 GMT
#1706
On July 16 2017 20:49 Holyflare wrote:
Non-voters (3) - Rels, Vivax, Koshi

lol mafia team

Vivax was pretty much given a free town pass by everyone so idk why he hasn't posted lol
TRUEESPORTS || your days as a respected member of team liquid are over
emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
July 16 2017 11:57 GMT
#1707
On July 16 2017 20:52 ruXxar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2017 20:01 emperorchampion wrote:
On July 16 2017 19:47 ruXxar wrote:
On July 16 2017 19:40 emperorchampion wrote:
On July 16 2017 19:32 ruXxar wrote:
On July 16 2017 12:46 Tumblewood wrote:
On July 15 2017 21:54 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Also Skynx is not mafia.
Noone will never ever come into the game as mafia making a case on someone and at the same time being completely aware they haven't even read the half of what the said dude said. Never.

wow, it's not often that a point is good enough that i actually listen to it. it's not infallible but it's a real good thing to consider and i think skynx is town


Why do you make this post now?
It's out of context.


How so out of context?

I respect rayns read, part of what makes me think that skynx could just be lazy so far. I don't think it's as alignment indicative as rayn tho. Tumbles response is kinda weird. Does tumble have other things supporting skynx town? I don't remember fully, just the part where he said that skynx wasn't an ideal off wagon. Not sure if this point alone is enough to justify a town read but depends on his previous stance to me.


What I mean is that it's random that TW comes back and makes that post.

I don't disagree with what Rayn said, but why does TW come back and that is one of the posts he makes?


He made 1 other catching up post, so not too out of context


Yes, but why specifically that one?

Examples of thought processes:

"I was filtering Rayn and came over this tidbit"
"I was looking for a reason to call skynx town".

When he doesn't share his thoughtprocess it leaves us with imperfect information.

Imperfect information leads to assumptions.

Assumptions in a game of mafia naturally leads to suspicion.

If he wants to be townread he should leave as little as possible to our imagination.


It could be something, but to me it's pretty nai
TRUEESPORTS || your days as a respected member of team liquid are over
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
July 16 2017 12:04 GMT
#1708
On July 16 2017 20:49 Holyflare wrote:
Non-voters (3) - Rels, Vivax, Koshi

lol mafia team


What do you think about my post on TW?
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
July 16 2017 12:04 GMT
#1709
Vote count is wrong btw, I should be on koshi

Felt like I was taking crazy pills for a second there
TRUEESPORTS || your days as a respected member of team liquid are over
beentheredonethat
Profile Joined May 2016
2934 Posts
July 16 2017 12:08 GMT
#1710
On July 16 2017 21:04 emperorchampion wrote:
Vote count is wrong btw, I should be on koshi

Felt like I was taking crazy pills for a second there

Corrected.
"Micro tricks like marine splitting, blink stalker micro, and ling/baneling wars were the apex of the game’s achievements; nothing in the world takes your breath away like watching a pro player split marines like a god."
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
July 16 2017 12:15 GMT
#1711
On July 16 2017 20:57 emperorchampion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2017 20:52 ruXxar wrote:
On July 16 2017 20:01 emperorchampion wrote:
On July 16 2017 19:47 ruXxar wrote:
On July 16 2017 19:40 emperorchampion wrote:
On July 16 2017 19:32 ruXxar wrote:
On July 16 2017 12:46 Tumblewood wrote:
On July 15 2017 21:54 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Also Skynx is not mafia.
Noone will never ever come into the game as mafia making a case on someone and at the same time being completely aware they haven't even read the half of what the said dude said. Never.

wow, it's not often that a point is good enough that i actually listen to it. it's not infallible but it's a real good thing to consider and i think skynx is town


Why do you make this post now?
It's out of context.


How so out of context?

I respect rayns read, part of what makes me think that skynx could just be lazy so far. I don't think it's as alignment indicative as rayn tho. Tumbles response is kinda weird. Does tumble have other things supporting skynx town? I don't remember fully, just the part where he said that skynx wasn't an ideal off wagon. Not sure if this point alone is enough to justify a town read but depends on his previous stance to me.


What I mean is that it's random that TW comes back and makes that post.

I don't disagree with what Rayn said, but why does TW come back and that is one of the posts he makes?


He made 1 other catching up post, so not too out of context


Yes, but why specifically that one?

Examples of thought processes:

"I was filtering Rayn and came over this tidbit"
"I was looking for a reason to call skynx town".

When he doesn't share his thoughtprocess it leaves us with imperfect information.

Imperfect information leads to assumptions.

Assumptions in a game of mafia naturally leads to suspicion.

If he wants to be townread he should leave as little as possible to our imagination.


It could be something, but to me it's pretty nai


By itself, yes.
But forcing him to explain it can lead to inconsistencies in his explanation over a longer period of time.

A scum player doesn't have a set of reads in his head that he keeps mulling over and reevaluates over the timeline of the game.

They already know they alignment of everyone.
As such it's very easy for scum to trip over their own reads or contradict themselves.

They don't have the same natural flow of timeline in their head where their town and scum reads are living.

Instead they make static reads based part on thread sentiment and part based on some inconsistency they think they found on another player.

At first glance that might look pretty townie, but as mafia your reads tend to go stale.

You made a case on a person and that's it.
You don't follow the flow of the thread and update your reads. You stick with the case you made on that person and that's it.

As such it's hard to keep a consistent stream of reads, especially scum reads as mafia.

Anyway.

The reason I'm prodding TW about it is because I want to see if there's a genuine thought process that I can associate with the rest of his play(consistency in play) and that it's not just an artificial read produced to fit his mafia gameplan.
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
July 16 2017 12:24 GMT
#1712
A thread PSA:

I'm traveling by car on a road trip tonight at 10pm ish.
I won't arrive at my destination until the next morning.

I won't be available during that time.
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
July 16 2017 12:30 GMT
#1713
Just so it's out there.

If rels flips green, we are lynching HF, correct?
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
July 16 2017 12:59 GMT
#1714
Are you doing retarded mafia siding things intentionally?
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
July 16 2017 13:09 GMT
#1715
On July 16 2017 21:59 Holyflare wrote:
Are you doing retarded mafia siding things intentionally?


No.
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
July 16 2017 13:10 GMT
#1716
Then why even ask? I'm town read by everyone in this game and have no reason to fake claim and rels and koshi a red check and your top scum read are just afk doing nothing.

Why would you even ask that question at that point? Break down your thought process to me.
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
July 16 2017 13:18 GMT
#1717
On July 16 2017 22:10 Holyflare wrote:
Then why even ask? I'm town read by everyone in this game and have no reason to fake claim and rels and koshi a red check and your top scum read are just afk doing nothing.

Why would you even ask that question at that point? Break down your thought process to me.


1) Because I'm concerned that you are mafia fake-claiming.

And if rels flips green you're going to claim that mafia has a framer to balance out the masons/cop.

If rels flips green I'm not going to believe such a claim from you.

2) what do you mean "and koshi a red check"?
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
July 16 2017 13:19 GMT
#1718
A framer with a miller in this game would be bull shit
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
July 16 2017 13:22 GMT
#1719
But also let me just get this straight.

If you have concerns that I'm mafia fake claiming and have already determined that if rels were to flip green I should be lynched why are you checking something so obvious with the thread?

Furthermore, since you have this thought process you absolutely need to explain what my mafia motivation is (that thing you completely love saying) to claim a red check on a rels that will inevitably flip green and lose all the amazing town credit I have from 90% of the game? What's the play? Trade one me for one afk rels for no reason?
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
July 16 2017 13:24 GMT
#1720
On July 16 2017 22:19 Holyflare wrote:
A framer with a miller in this game would be bull shit


Having two confirmed towns and a cop in a 13 man game is incredibly town sided.

I personally think having mssons in a mini mafia game is quite a fun killer.
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
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