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On June 24 2017 01:49 Chezitwo wrote:Show nested quote +On June 24 2017 01:42 Rels wrote:
Leaving work, see you in a few hours. (= Chezkita, if you could bring up the townie posts you found in rayn's filter it would be great I don't know if I can really be bothered to do this. Just read his filter yourself. The good stuff is basically almost everything that comes before he starts nitpicking your ES stuff.
mh... wasnt rayn pretty "sloppy" at the start of the game. i remember some ppl scumreading him early, but i concluded that he didnt have much time and it was therefore nai.
guess i ll look at his filter a bit tomorrow.
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yo palmar. hope you are ready to play starting next day phase 
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still hoping scum finds it in their heart to send a bullet my way.
but i feel like being a lazy ass on my weekend and spend time on hots and reading etc.
and reading books is def. more entertaining than the filters this game.
at least i dont have to read my own filter. xD
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errrr...
that rb makes 0 sense?
like if town has a jk what was that guy doing all game? and we already had a vet. inst 2 prots impossible?
that also would put us at:
vig/parity cop/vet/tracker/jk
which looks pretty damn op to me. notvthst it would help us...
i also dont think scum has a jk or second rb... or at least ive nevrr seen something like that.
though es tracker claim makes 0 sense as scum and we probably wouldnt have lunched tw as early...
va's shot also makes more sense as town (could be scum vig),
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be really really careful if either es or va are still alive in lylo i guess
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On June 26 2017 13:20 Blazinghand wrote:
so what's the plan
finding and lynchong scum.
step1: get palmar to play
that rb akso made me paranoid as fuck.
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just mentioned that in my post.
a) where was that jk
b) if both es and va are town we would be at 5 pr.
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mh. 5 pr would put us in a good point range for a m25 game.
but i feel like scum should have something like strongman in that case. which they apparently dont have.
like rb/rc and adsuming a gf against 5 blues? not sure. feels a tad weak.
but whatever i guess.
gotta run, will be late at work.
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On June 26 2017 15:52 ruXxar wrote:
Makes it clear that mafia did shoot together with vigi.
Va is as good as confirmed town at this point.
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scum shot chezi two nights in a row?
vet and stuff?
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yes. what bh said.
think i have an idea how a jk could fit. enough setup talk.
@fefe: your top scumreads still ruxxar/bh?
@BH:
On June 25 2017 08:12 Blazinghand wrote:
I think we probably can't rely on additional blues solving this game for us. But we have a lot of info now and should be able to basically PoE things down to very favorable odds
what is your poe looking like atm?
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@ruxxar:
between rels and rayn, who do you think is scum now?
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friendly reminder @ myself:
check something in rels filter, you know what i am talking about
ill be in and out depending on work etc.
voting plammar for now.
will take a look at some filter when i am back.
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well yeah. at least no touching va/es for a while. check back if alive in lylo or something i guess.
@skynx : still think rayn and rels are both town? why?
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even for the peasants that lynch the scum rb you mean? =D
but whatever. less setup more scum hunting.
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On June 26 2017 17:04 Blazinghand wrote:
I think there's a solid chance that someone else on the annul wagon is scum. I think Ruxxar has generally been really engaged all game; he's likely town. ES has claimed, and we don't yet have any reason to doubt it. Fecalfeast is part of the cohort (along with disfo, ruxxar, and chezi) that I spoke with after the dawn of Day 4. Remember, during a period of time, SL had flipped and we were trying to reason things out. Scum, we can now reasonably infer, had shot Chez and noticed it failed, and on top of that, that SL who they did not shoot has flipped. Scum doesn't know what happened, what prots if any went on, who shot whom, etc. This was exciting and interesting news for town, and confusing news for scum, what happened with the D1 flip. After the VA claim, scum had a lot more information to work on and probably came out of the woodwork, and after the ES claim, they were safe to operate and make statements with surety about what checks they were opearing against, and to bus/not bus etc. I think scum had every motivation in the world to NOT be posting right after that flip. It would be very risky. So the people who dove into convo with me, FF, Disfo, and Ruxxar, are highly unlikely to be scum in my view.
this part is really interesting. def. something i wouldnt have thought to look at. only that i am not sure if a chatterbox like ruxxar or me would be stopped by that. but i like it.
@bh: what do you think of skynx outside of vca stuff?
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On June 26 2017 18:03 beentheredonethat wrote:Show nested quote +On June 26 2017 17:57 disformation wrote:
even for the peasants that lynch the scum rb you mean? =D
but whatever. less setup more scum hunting. two ways to defuse a bomb by cutting one of two cables a) guess b) use your brain and knowledge guessing is 50:50, brain and knowledge is probably 90:10 or something We got super lucky that we caught the scum RB early on and look at the waffling and the mislynches that happened after. This is a blue's game, without VA flipping SL and SL flipping parity cop we wouldn't have the situation we're in. Basically, VA killed a blue and it was the best thing to happen 
yes, i guess that is true.
we also needed es to claim to properly figure out sl's checks. so there is that.
just wish whoever is town in the low activity/content bunch would step up a bit.
i feel like there is def. a scum in the more active players like rels/ruxxar/rayn. just makes sense from the flow of the game to me.
less likely to be ruxxar for engagement and tone. but tbh i also really need to read his filter at some point to see if he has legit read progression and stuff.
with skynx i have some doubts, since his d1 can be town and some parts of his frustration look legit to me.
rels and rayn i have some problems as well, since they both felt town when i was having some discussion with d3. want to double check something in rels filter, i feel he might have jumped on my sl scumread to eagerly and then it took him some time to push for that as well. but really need to double check that.
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On June 26 2017 18:09 Blazinghand wrote:Show nested quote +On June 26 2017 18:05 disformation wrote:On June 26 2017 17:04 Blazinghand wrote:
I think there's a solid chance that someone else on the annul wagon is scum. I think Ruxxar has generally been really engaged all game; he's likely town. ES has claimed, and we don't yet have any reason to doubt it. Fecalfeast is part of the cohort (along with disfo, ruxxar, and chezi) that I spoke with after the dawn of Day 4. Remember, during a period of time, SL had flipped and we were trying to reason things out. Scum, we can now reasonably infer, had shot Chez and noticed it failed, and on top of that, that SL who they did not shoot has flipped. Scum doesn't know what happened, what prots if any went on, who shot whom, etc. This was exciting and interesting news for town, and confusing news for scum, what happened with the D1 flip. After the VA claim, scum had a lot more information to work on and probably came out of the woodwork, and after the ES claim, they were safe to operate and make statements with surety about what checks they were opearing against, and to bus/not bus etc. I think scum had every motivation in the world to NOT be posting right after that flip. It would be very risky. So the people who dove into convo with me, FF, Disfo, and Ruxxar, are highly unlikely to be scum in my view. this part is really interesting. def. something i wouldnt have thought to look at. only that i am not sure if a chatterbox like ruxxar or me would be stopped by that. but i like it. @bh: what do you think of skynx outside of vca stuff? Outside of that stuff, Skynx is a must-lynch. I felt skeevy putting him on the kinda-town. TBH under my PoE in either circumstance we still have 1 spare mislynch, which means if Skynx is scum we could put him in there and still be fine and win. I think we basically have this in the bag.
hmmm...
brings me back to my:
1 of rels/rayn
1 of skynx/btdt
1 of palmar/bh
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On June 26 2017 18:20 disformation wrote:Show nested quote +On June 26 2017 18:09 Blazinghand wrote:On June 26 2017 18:05 disformation wrote:On June 26 2017 17:04 Blazinghand wrote:
I think there's a solid chance that someone else on the annul wagon is scum. I think Ruxxar has generally been really engaged all game; he's likely town. ES has claimed, and we don't yet have any reason to doubt it. Fecalfeast is part of the cohort (along with disfo, ruxxar, and chezi) that I spoke with after the dawn of Day 4. Remember, during a period of time, SL had flipped and we were trying to reason things out. Scum, we can now reasonably infer, had shot Chez and noticed it failed, and on top of that, that SL who they did not shoot has flipped. Scum doesn't know what happened, what prots if any went on, who shot whom, etc. This was exciting and interesting news for town, and confusing news for scum, what happened with the D1 flip. After the VA claim, scum had a lot more information to work on and probably came out of the woodwork, and after the ES claim, they were safe to operate and make statements with surety about what checks they were opearing against, and to bus/not bus etc. I think scum had every motivation in the world to NOT be posting right after that flip. It would be very risky. So the people who dove into convo with me, FF, Disfo, and Ruxxar, are highly unlikely to be scum in my view. this part is really interesting. def. something i wouldnt have thought to look at. only that i am not sure if a chatterbox like ruxxar or me would be stopped by that. but i like it. @bh: what do you think of skynx outside of vca stuff? Outside of that stuff, Skynx is a must-lynch. I felt skeevy putting him on the kinda-town. TBH under my PoE in either circumstance we still have 1 spare mislynch, which means if Skynx is scum we could put him in there and still be fine and win. I think we basically have this in the bag. hmmm... brings me back to my: 1 of rels/rayn 1 of skynx/btdt 1 of palmar/bh
but somehow i dont feel happy with that.
also currently would agree with
rels
skynx
palmar
but lets see what palmar does today
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On June 26 2017 18:22 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On June 26 2017 18:20 disformation wrote:On June 26 2017 18:09 Blazinghand wrote:On June 26 2017 18:05 disformation wrote:On June 26 2017 17:04 Blazinghand wrote:
I think there's a solid chance that someone else on the annul wagon is scum. I think Ruxxar has generally been really engaged all game; he's likely town. ES has claimed, and we don't yet have any reason to doubt it. Fecalfeast is part of the cohort (along with disfo, ruxxar, and chezi) that I spoke with after the dawn of Day 4. Remember, during a period of time, SL had flipped and we were trying to reason things out. Scum, we can now reasonably infer, had shot Chez and noticed it failed, and on top of that, that SL who they did not shoot has flipped. Scum doesn't know what happened, what prots if any went on, who shot whom, etc. This was exciting and interesting news for town, and confusing news for scum, what happened with the D1 flip. After the VA claim, scum had a lot more information to work on and probably came out of the woodwork, and after the ES claim, they were safe to operate and make statements with surety about what checks they were opearing against, and to bus/not bus etc. I think scum had every motivation in the world to NOT be posting right after that flip. It would be very risky. So the people who dove into convo with me, FF, Disfo, and Ruxxar, are highly unlikely to be scum in my view. this part is really interesting. def. something i wouldnt have thought to look at. only that i am not sure if a chatterbox like ruxxar or me would be stopped by that. but i like it. @bh: what do you think of skynx outside of vca stuff? Outside of that stuff, Skynx is a must-lynch. I felt skeevy putting him on the kinda-town. TBH under my PoE in either circumstance we still have 1 spare mislynch, which means if Skynx is scum we could put him in there and still be fine and win. I think we basically have this in the bag. hmmm... brings me back to my: 1 of rels/rayn 1 of skynx/btdt 1 of palmar/bh Try not to work on assumptions like this, if you're wrong on even one pair, especially if both are mafia, you might end up giving undue towncredit because the other half of the pair flipped scum. Same if both are town.
that is probably why i am not happy with that. xD
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