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Blazinghand
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Neither ES nor VA are "confirmed town" in my opinion. They are claims that are somewhat likely to be true. VA more than ES. But "confirmed" is "confirmed", not something lesser.
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well yeah. at least no touching va/es for a while. check back if alive in lylo or something i guess.
@skynx : still think rayn and rels are both town? why?
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even for the peasants who lynch un-cc'ed claims it should be pretty clear that there's no way to doubt these claims.
except if ES faked the tracks and bussed TW and we don't have a tracker at all, only a jailkeeper that was fooled.
no.
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even for the peasants that lynch the scum rb you mean? =D
but whatever. less setup more scum hunting.
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On June 26 2017 17:57 disformation wrote:
even for the peasants that lynch the scum rb you mean? =D
but whatever. less setup more scum hunting.
two ways to defuse a bomb by cutting one of two cables
a) guess
b) use your brain and knowledge
guessing is 50:50, brain and knowledge is probably 90:10 or something
We got super lucky that we caught the scum RB early on and look at the waffling and the mislynches that happened after. This is a blue's game, without VA flipping SL and SL flipping parity cop we wouldn't have the situation we're in.
Basically, VA killed a blue and it was the best thing to happen 
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On June 26 2017 17:04 Blazinghand wrote:
I think there's a solid chance that someone else on the annul wagon is scum. I think Ruxxar has generally been really engaged all game; he's likely town. ES has claimed, and we don't yet have any reason to doubt it. Fecalfeast is part of the cohort (along with disfo, ruxxar, and chezi) that I spoke with after the dawn of Day 4. Remember, during a period of time, SL had flipped and we were trying to reason things out. Scum, we can now reasonably infer, had shot Chez and noticed it failed, and on top of that, that SL who they did not shoot has flipped. Scum doesn't know what happened, what prots if any went on, who shot whom, etc. This was exciting and interesting news for town, and confusing news for scum, what happened with the D1 flip. After the VA claim, scum had a lot more information to work on and probably came out of the woodwork, and after the ES claim, they were safe to operate and make statements with surety about what checks they were opearing against, and to bus/not bus etc. I think scum had every motivation in the world to NOT be posting right after that flip. It would be very risky. So the people who dove into convo with me, FF, Disfo, and Ruxxar, are highly unlikely to be scum in my view.
this part is really interesting. def. something i wouldnt have thought to look at. only that i am not sure if a chatterbox like ruxxar or me would be stopped by that. but i like it.
@bh: what do you think of skynx outside of vca stuff?
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Blazinghand
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On June 26 2017 18:05 disformation wrote:Show nested quote +On June 26 2017 17:04 Blazinghand wrote:
I think there's a solid chance that someone else on the annul wagon is scum. I think Ruxxar has generally been really engaged all game; he's likely town. ES has claimed, and we don't yet have any reason to doubt it. Fecalfeast is part of the cohort (along with disfo, ruxxar, and chezi) that I spoke with after the dawn of Day 4. Remember, during a period of time, SL had flipped and we were trying to reason things out. Scum, we can now reasonably infer, had shot Chez and noticed it failed, and on top of that, that SL who they did not shoot has flipped. Scum doesn't know what happened, what prots if any went on, who shot whom, etc. This was exciting and interesting news for town, and confusing news for scum, what happened with the D1 flip. After the VA claim, scum had a lot more information to work on and probably came out of the woodwork, and after the ES claim, they were safe to operate and make statements with surety about what checks they were opearing against, and to bus/not bus etc. I think scum had every motivation in the world to NOT be posting right after that flip. It would be very risky. So the people who dove into convo with me, FF, Disfo, and Ruxxar, are highly unlikely to be scum in my view. this part is really interesting. def. something i wouldnt have thought to look at. only that i am not sure if a chatterbox like ruxxar or me would be stopped by that. but i like it. @bh: what do you think of skynx outside of vca stuff?
Outside of that stuff, Skynx is a must-lynch. I felt skeevy putting him on the kinda-town. TBH under my PoE in either circumstance we still have 1 spare mislynch, which means if Skynx is scum we could put him in there and still be fine and win. I think we basically have this in the bag.
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Blazinghand
United States25563 Posts
On June 26 2017 17:51 beentheredonethat wrote:
even for the peasants who lynch un-cc'ed claims it should be pretty clear that there's no way to doubt these claims.
except if ES faked the tracks and bussed TW and we don't have a tracker at all, only a jailkeeper that was fooled.
no.
I didn't say "let's lynch ES and VA"--in fact, if you read my post, I explicitly say not to.
I said they're not confirmed town.
And I'm right.
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On June 26 2017 18:03 beentheredonethat wrote:Show nested quote +On June 26 2017 17:57 disformation wrote:
even for the peasants that lynch the scum rb you mean? =D
but whatever. less setup more scum hunting. two ways to defuse a bomb by cutting one of two cables a) guess b) use your brain and knowledge guessing is 50:50, brain and knowledge is probably 90:10 or something We got super lucky that we caught the scum RB early on and look at the waffling and the mislynches that happened after. This is a blue's game, without VA flipping SL and SL flipping parity cop we wouldn't have the situation we're in. Basically, VA killed a blue and it was the best thing to happen
yes, i guess that is true.
we also needed es to claim to properly figure out sl's checks. so there is that.
just wish whoever is town in the low activity/content bunch would step up a bit.
i feel like there is def. a scum in the more active players like rels/ruxxar/rayn. just makes sense from the flow of the game to me.
less likely to be ruxxar for engagement and tone. but tbh i also really need to read his filter at some point to see if he has legit read progression and stuff.
with skynx i have some doubts, since his d1 can be town and some parts of his frustration look legit to me.
rels and rayn i have some problems as well, since they both felt town when i was having some discussion with d3. want to double check something in rels filter, i feel he might have jumped on my sl scumread to eagerly and then it took him some time to push for that as well. but really need to double check that.
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On June 26 2017 18:09 Blazinghand wrote:Show nested quote +On June 26 2017 18:05 disformation wrote:On June 26 2017 17:04 Blazinghand wrote:
I think there's a solid chance that someone else on the annul wagon is scum. I think Ruxxar has generally been really engaged all game; he's likely town. ES has claimed, and we don't yet have any reason to doubt it. Fecalfeast is part of the cohort (along with disfo, ruxxar, and chezi) that I spoke with after the dawn of Day 4. Remember, during a period of time, SL had flipped and we were trying to reason things out. Scum, we can now reasonably infer, had shot Chez and noticed it failed, and on top of that, that SL who they did not shoot has flipped. Scum doesn't know what happened, what prots if any went on, who shot whom, etc. This was exciting and interesting news for town, and confusing news for scum, what happened with the D1 flip. After the VA claim, scum had a lot more information to work on and probably came out of the woodwork, and after the ES claim, they were safe to operate and make statements with surety about what checks they were opearing against, and to bus/not bus etc. I think scum had every motivation in the world to NOT be posting right after that flip. It would be very risky. So the people who dove into convo with me, FF, Disfo, and Ruxxar, are highly unlikely to be scum in my view. this part is really interesting. def. something i wouldnt have thought to look at. only that i am not sure if a chatterbox like ruxxar or me would be stopped by that. but i like it. @bh: what do you think of skynx outside of vca stuff? Outside of that stuff, Skynx is a must-lynch. I felt skeevy putting him on the kinda-town. TBH under my PoE in either circumstance we still have 1 spare mislynch, which means if Skynx is scum we could put him in there and still be fine and win. I think we basically have this in the bag.
hmmm...
brings me back to my:
1 of rels/rayn
1 of skynx/btdt
1 of palmar/bh
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Can anyone tell me why every time I look at the thread (admittedly not very often) rayn is completely mia? Like he doesn't really have the pattern of a lazy player anywhere in his portfolio.
I don't necessarily think it makes him mafia, but it's an anomaly.
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On June 26 2017 18:20 disformation wrote:Show nested quote +On June 26 2017 18:09 Blazinghand wrote:On June 26 2017 18:05 disformation wrote:On June 26 2017 17:04 Blazinghand wrote:
I think there's a solid chance that someone else on the annul wagon is scum. I think Ruxxar has generally been really engaged all game; he's likely town. ES has claimed, and we don't yet have any reason to doubt it. Fecalfeast is part of the cohort (along with disfo, ruxxar, and chezi) that I spoke with after the dawn of Day 4. Remember, during a period of time, SL had flipped and we were trying to reason things out. Scum, we can now reasonably infer, had shot Chez and noticed it failed, and on top of that, that SL who they did not shoot has flipped. Scum doesn't know what happened, what prots if any went on, who shot whom, etc. This was exciting and interesting news for town, and confusing news for scum, what happened with the D1 flip. After the VA claim, scum had a lot more information to work on and probably came out of the woodwork, and after the ES claim, they were safe to operate and make statements with surety about what checks they were opearing against, and to bus/not bus etc. I think scum had every motivation in the world to NOT be posting right after that flip. It would be very risky. So the people who dove into convo with me, FF, Disfo, and Ruxxar, are highly unlikely to be scum in my view. this part is really interesting. def. something i wouldnt have thought to look at. only that i am not sure if a chatterbox like ruxxar or me would be stopped by that. but i like it. @bh: what do you think of skynx outside of vca stuff? Outside of that stuff, Skynx is a must-lynch. I felt skeevy putting him on the kinda-town. TBH under my PoE in either circumstance we still have 1 spare mislynch, which means if Skynx is scum we could put him in there and still be fine and win. I think we basically have this in the bag. hmmm... brings me back to my: 1 of rels/rayn 1 of skynx/btdt 1 of palmar/bh
Try not to work on assumptions like this, if you're wrong on even one pair, especially if both are mafia, you might end up giving undue towncredit because the other half of the pair flipped scum. Same if both are town.
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On June 26 2017 18:20 disformation wrote:Show nested quote +On June 26 2017 18:09 Blazinghand wrote:On June 26 2017 18:05 disformation wrote:On June 26 2017 17:04 Blazinghand wrote:
I think there's a solid chance that someone else on the annul wagon is scum. I think Ruxxar has generally been really engaged all game; he's likely town. ES has claimed, and we don't yet have any reason to doubt it. Fecalfeast is part of the cohort (along with disfo, ruxxar, and chezi) that I spoke with after the dawn of Day 4. Remember, during a period of time, SL had flipped and we were trying to reason things out. Scum, we can now reasonably infer, had shot Chez and noticed it failed, and on top of that, that SL who they did not shoot has flipped. Scum doesn't know what happened, what prots if any went on, who shot whom, etc. This was exciting and interesting news for town, and confusing news for scum, what happened with the D1 flip. After the VA claim, scum had a lot more information to work on and probably came out of the woodwork, and after the ES claim, they were safe to operate and make statements with surety about what checks they were opearing against, and to bus/not bus etc. I think scum had every motivation in the world to NOT be posting right after that flip. It would be very risky. So the people who dove into convo with me, FF, Disfo, and Ruxxar, are highly unlikely to be scum in my view. this part is really interesting. def. something i wouldnt have thought to look at. only that i am not sure if a chatterbox like ruxxar or me would be stopped by that. but i like it. @bh: what do you think of skynx outside of vca stuff? Outside of that stuff, Skynx is a must-lynch. I felt skeevy putting him on the kinda-town. TBH under my PoE in either circumstance we still have 1 spare mislynch, which means if Skynx is scum we could put him in there and still be fine and win. I think we basically have this in the bag. hmmm... brings me back to my: 1 of rels/rayn 1 of skynx/btdt 1 of palmar/bh
but somehow i dont feel happy with that.
also currently would agree with
rels
skynx
palmar
but lets see what palmar does today
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On June 26 2017 18:22 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On June 26 2017 18:20 disformation wrote:On June 26 2017 18:09 Blazinghand wrote:On June 26 2017 18:05 disformation wrote:On June 26 2017 17:04 Blazinghand wrote:
I think there's a solid chance that someone else on the annul wagon is scum. I think Ruxxar has generally been really engaged all game; he's likely town. ES has claimed, and we don't yet have any reason to doubt it. Fecalfeast is part of the cohort (along with disfo, ruxxar, and chezi) that I spoke with after the dawn of Day 4. Remember, during a period of time, SL had flipped and we were trying to reason things out. Scum, we can now reasonably infer, had shot Chez and noticed it failed, and on top of that, that SL who they did not shoot has flipped. Scum doesn't know what happened, what prots if any went on, who shot whom, etc. This was exciting and interesting news for town, and confusing news for scum, what happened with the D1 flip. After the VA claim, scum had a lot more information to work on and probably came out of the woodwork, and after the ES claim, they were safe to operate and make statements with surety about what checks they were opearing against, and to bus/not bus etc. I think scum had every motivation in the world to NOT be posting right after that flip. It would be very risky. So the people who dove into convo with me, FF, Disfo, and Ruxxar, are highly unlikely to be scum in my view. this part is really interesting. def. something i wouldnt have thought to look at. only that i am not sure if a chatterbox like ruxxar or me would be stopped by that. but i like it. @bh: what do you think of skynx outside of vca stuff? Outside of that stuff, Skynx is a must-lynch. I felt skeevy putting him on the kinda-town. TBH under my PoE in either circumstance we still have 1 spare mislynch, which means if Skynx is scum we could put him in there and still be fine and win. I think we basically have this in the bag. hmmm... brings me back to my: 1 of rels/rayn 1 of skynx/btdt 1 of palmar/bh Try not to work on assumptions like this, if you're wrong on even one pair, especially if both are mafia, you might end up giving undue towncredit because the other half of the pair flipped scum. Same if both are town.
that is probably why i am not happy with that. xD
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Rofl I hadn't read the game but VA claims vigilante shooting our cop. That guy is so special
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On June 26 2017 18:20 disformation wrote:Show nested quote +On June 26 2017 18:09 Blazinghand wrote:On June 26 2017 18:05 disformation wrote:On June 26 2017 17:04 Blazinghand wrote:
I think there's a solid chance that someone else on the annul wagon is scum. I think Ruxxar has generally been really engaged all game; he's likely town. ES has claimed, and we don't yet have any reason to doubt it. Fecalfeast is part of the cohort (along with disfo, ruxxar, and chezi) that I spoke with after the dawn of Day 4. Remember, during a period of time, SL had flipped and we were trying to reason things out. Scum, we can now reasonably infer, had shot Chez and noticed it failed, and on top of that, that SL who they did not shoot has flipped. Scum doesn't know what happened, what prots if any went on, who shot whom, etc. This was exciting and interesting news for town, and confusing news for scum, what happened with the D1 flip. After the VA claim, scum had a lot more information to work on and probably came out of the woodwork, and after the ES claim, they were safe to operate and make statements with surety about what checks they were opearing against, and to bus/not bus etc. I think scum had every motivation in the world to NOT be posting right after that flip. It would be very risky. So the people who dove into convo with me, FF, Disfo, and Ruxxar, are highly unlikely to be scum in my view. this part is really interesting. def. something i wouldnt have thought to look at. only that i am not sure if a chatterbox like ruxxar or me would be stopped by that. but i like it. @bh: what do you think of skynx outside of vca stuff? Outside of that stuff, Skynx is a must-lynch. I felt skeevy putting him on the kinda-town. TBH under my PoE in either circumstance we still have 1 spare mislynch, which means if Skynx is scum we could put him in there and still be fine and win. I think we basically have this in the bag. hmmm... brings me back to my: 1 of rels/rayn 1 of skynx/btdt 1 of palmar/bh
For the eaier: I think rayn is town. I think at least one of Rux/fefe/Rels is mafia. Forgot fefe in my last post, still no reason to townread him since sl's breadcrumv check we thought on him is invalid.
I agree on me/btdt.
Why do you think Palmar/bh cant be mafia together?
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On June 26 2017 18:25 Palmar wrote:Rofl I hadn't read the game but VA claims vigilante shooting our cop. That guy is so special
well. everyone thought sl was scum... =D
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On June 26 2017 18:29 disformation wrote:Show nested quote +On June 26 2017 18:25 Palmar wrote:Rofl I hadn't read the game but VA claims vigilante shooting our cop. That guy is so special well. everyone thought sl was scum... =D
yeah (and so did I) but that guy just messes up so much.
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On June 26 2017 18:27 Skynx wrote:Show nested quote +On June 26 2017 18:20 disformation wrote:On June 26 2017 18:09 Blazinghand wrote:On June 26 2017 18:05 disformation wrote:On June 26 2017 17:04 Blazinghand wrote:
I think there's a solid chance that someone else on the annul wagon is scum. I think Ruxxar has generally been really engaged all game; he's likely town. ES has claimed, and we don't yet have any reason to doubt it. Fecalfeast is part of the cohort (along with disfo, ruxxar, and chezi) that I spoke with after the dawn of Day 4. Remember, during a period of time, SL had flipped and we were trying to reason things out. Scum, we can now reasonably infer, had shot Chez and noticed it failed, and on top of that, that SL who they did not shoot has flipped. Scum doesn't know what happened, what prots if any went on, who shot whom, etc. This was exciting and interesting news for town, and confusing news for scum, what happened with the D1 flip. After the VA claim, scum had a lot more information to work on and probably came out of the woodwork, and after the ES claim, they were safe to operate and make statements with surety about what checks they were opearing against, and to bus/not bus etc. I think scum had every motivation in the world to NOT be posting right after that flip. It would be very risky. So the people who dove into convo with me, FF, Disfo, and Ruxxar, are highly unlikely to be scum in my view. this part is really interesting. def. something i wouldnt have thought to look at. only that i am not sure if a chatterbox like ruxxar or me would be stopped by that. but i like it. @bh: what do you think of skynx outside of vca stuff? Outside of that stuff, Skynx is a must-lynch. I felt skeevy putting him on the kinda-town. TBH under my PoE in either circumstance we still have 1 spare mislynch, which means if Skynx is scum we could put him in there and still be fine and win. I think we basically have this in the bag. hmmm... brings me back to my: 1 of rels/rayn 1 of skynx/btdt 1 of palmar/bh For the eaier: I think rayn is town. I think at least one of Rux/fefe/Rels is mafia. Forgot fefe in my last post, still no reason to townread him since sl's breadcrumv check we thought on him is invalid. I agree on me/btdt. Why do you think Palmar/bh cant be mafia together?
good question actually.
i guess that comes a bit from the feeling that skynx vs btdt has probably a scum and that rayn vs rels probably has a scum based on interactions. again as palmar pointed out, that might be fairly wrong.
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