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Half the Sky
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Vote Count - Day 5 beentheredonethat (2): Palmar, Skynx Palmar (1): disformation Not voted (7): ruXxar, raynpelikoneet, VayneAuthority, Rels, beentheredonethat, Blazinghand. Eversince Half the Sky is getting ready to throw beentheredonethat out of her whiskey bar. Day 3 ends in at 23:00 GMT (+00:00). The voting thread is here and only votes in the voting thread will be counted. | ||
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disformation
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On June 16 2017 02:08 beentheredonethat wrote: oh gf finished cooking. will be back in a bit. On June 16 2017 02:08 Half the Sky wrote: Vote Count - Day 1 Koshi (5): Holyflare, disformation, beentheredonethat, ruXxar (3): Fecalfeast, Xatalos, Vivax Xatalos (3): darthfoley, Koshi, Skynx raynpelikoneet (1): marvellosity (1): sicklucker (1): Palmar Palmar (0): beentheredonethat (0): Eversince (0): Not voted (8): Rels, Damdred, VayneAuthority, raynpelikoneet, AMG, marvellosity, Grackaroni, Eversince Half the Sky is getting ready to throw Koshi out of her whiskey bar. Day 1 ends in at 23:00 GMT (+00:00). The voting thread is here and only votes in the voting thread will be counted. he afks ~4h50 b4 deadline with his (apparently) #1 scumread in the lead. and checks back in at around 7h after deadline. On June 16 2017 14:59 beentheredonethat wrote: bad thing: Koshi lynch averted bad thing #2: annul being lynched over xata good thing: xata being 2nd wagon I think a scum!xata will give us lots of indication and I highly suggest xata to be shot at night. koshi was his #1 scumread. xata apparently at #2. Can very well make sense from a town pov. The following read progression on koshi is super weird though: On June 16 2017 02:04 beentheredonethat wrote: This is the thing why I don't buy Koshi's "rage" by the way. Like, when you start a big sentence, people will remember the first and the last thing you said and not the whole rest. The structure used here is "I am obvious town", then blabla reasons "just because", followed up by "you're so fucking blind it's hilarious". Koshi shouldn't put emphasis on WHAT he is. He will always claim town, as anyone would, regardless of actual alignment. But instead, he yells "I AM TOWN", puts the reasoning (which is the IMPORTANT part) right between two seemingly emotional statements I have caught Koshi already as scum D1 and I'm fairly confident here. When I skimmed this morning he looked better but I just skimmed. so, yeah. my vote is good where it's at. On June 16 2017 02:06 beentheredonethat wrote: He claimed to post less, then went on to post actually more than he did before (3.5 pages of filter). Which is town indicative in a weird way? On June 16 2017 02:08 beentheredonethat wrote: Okay I am officially tunneled on Koshi :D He wants to lynch you though. So is he lynchbait or is he scum being fine with the Koshi wagon? "When I skimmed this morning he looked better but I just skimmed. so, yeah. my vote is good where it's at. " is such a weird sentence for town to make. like he was reevaluation while he isnt? that he read stuff? dunno. also his koshi scumread also started with a backtrack: On June 14 2017 20:24 beentheredonethat wrote: This is carefree yolo Koshi not under-radar-scum-Koshi I dunno 3rd party koshi though On June 14 2017 20:54 beentheredonethat wrote: actually I regret saying Koshi is playing to his town meta because he isn't. HF is right that Koshi is not pushing the thread forward but town Koshi does. Koshi is busy defending himself (okay I can understand that) and he's posting "fun" stuff besides I am also not entirely sure why btdt scum reads koshi besides really early meta and then apparently never really reevaluates. cause btdt "case" on koshi: On June 14 2017 20:50 beentheredonethat wrote: I'm glad annul posted that video because he also quoted Koshi's math post which is plain bullshit and filler On June 14 2017 20:54 beentheredonethat wrote: actually I regret saying Koshi is playing to his town meta because he isn't. HF is right that Koshi is not pushing the thread forward but town Koshi does. Koshi is busy defending himself (okay I can understand that) and he's posting "fun" stuff besides On June 14 2017 21:09 beentheredonethat wrote: cheap reads bad Koshi On June 14 2017 21:09 beentheredonethat wrote: Waitwaitwait I'm not locked on Koshi being 3p, I'm not sheeping you I think he can very well be scum then nearly a page of nothing on koshi. then: On June 15 2017 17:49 beentheredonethat wrote: Good morning. It's a bank holiday today in Germany and I am spending it with my GF on a wandering tour. I'll probably be in front of a computer in the evening if at all. I skimmed everything besides the last two pages. Koshi looks better, Xata worse. Ruxxar weird. My mind screamed TOWN when I read rayns big post but I didn't like that he disappeared right after. Hf still town. Disfo not town anymore because rayn made me paranoid. Thats kind of where im at. On June 16 2017 01:58 beentheredonethat wrote: I agree with Koshi and darthfoley here and after that the weird read progression i pointed out earlier. again in spoilers if you have no short time memory:+ Show Spoiler + The following read progression on koshi is super weird though: On June 16 2017 02:04 beentheredonethat wrote: This is the thing why I don't buy Koshi's "rage" by the way. Like, when you start a big sentence, people will remember the first and the last thing you said and not the whole rest. The structure used here is "I am obvious town", then blabla reasons "just because", followed up by "you're so fucking blind it's hilarious". Koshi shouldn't put emphasis on WHAT he is. He will always claim town, as anyone would, regardless of actual alignment. But instead, he yells "I AM TOWN", puts the reasoning (which is the IMPORTANT part) right between two seemingly emotional statements I have caught Koshi already as scum D1 and I'm fairly confident here. When I skimmed this morning he looked better but I just skimmed. so, yeah. my vote is good where it's at. On June 16 2017 02:06 beentheredonethat wrote: He claimed to post less, then went on to post actually more than he did before (3.5 pages of filter). Which is town indicative in a weird way? On June 16 2017 02:08 beentheredonethat wrote: Okay I am officially tunneled on Koshi :D He wants to lynch you though. So is he lynchbait or is he scum being fine with the Koshi wagon? looks like scum not wanting to reevaluate a read or dig up another scum read, because he already had a partner in slot #2. who happened to be the rb. | ||
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beentheredonethat
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On June 26 2017 19:14 Palmar wrote: Holy shit does beentheredonethat's filter look bad when considering Xatalos. Two random comments with no meat on them and no real attempt to lynch the guy he's calling superbad and disappearing. Instead, when df offers a wagon on Xatalos, it's instead met with (weak) resistance: Read the entire quote that follows. On what level are btdt's contributions helpful or insightful at all. And through it all, btdt sits on Koshi, despite thinking koshi looks better and Xata worse: btdt ended the day as a single random vote on Koshi instead of trying to kill his scumread. Then he bitched about it in the night: Maybe should have done something about that? I think there is about 100% chance btdt is mafia ##Vote beentheredonethat I'm not done with his filter, but this day 1 looks very much terrible. I was getting paranoid that I was being to lenient because like the first 4 people I read actually look like townies, but this guy doesn't look like a townie at all on first glance. Please give me reasons why I should townread him if anyone has any. To me this is almost a good enough case on it's own. You're super misrepresenting my D1. You paint me saying "Koshi looks better" but like 2 posts later, I retract that and say "nope, he doesn't". This is actually me being townie since reconsidering and reevaluating are town traits. You also interpret me talking about Xata as scummy which is super bullshit because I pretty much jumped on a lot of people. My whole D1 revolves around poking players, saying something about them, while focusing and settling on Koshi. You are painting a picture that is simply - false. Basically, what Palmar is doing here is: 1. go to QT, say "meh, so many confirmed towns, we need 2-3 mislynches to win, so lets try btdt" 2. skynx is all happy about that 3. scrap together a "case" from a random, lazy filter dive that's super poor and I'm glad you tell the world you're scum. ##vote Palmar Palmar/Skynx are both scum. 120%. | ||
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beentheredonethat
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On June 26 2017 18:41 Palmar wrote: Just read VA's filter. He's probably not mafia. Small chance of 3p obviously (just for having a killing role), but in general I don't think I have much interest in lynching him. While his filter is short it doesn't really scream mafia to me. Do take my reads with a grain of salt btw, I am less involved than usual. Super hard to say about a claimed role that he's probably not mafia. | ||
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beentheredonethat
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On June 26 2017 18:52 Palmar wrote: I haven't finished ES's filter, but there's a few things here. 1) I read it right after VA's, because I kinda liked VA's "scummiest thing is to break character" line. But now I don't understand it. I have no idea what character ES was breaking. 2) ES made a big case on Xatalos. It probably wasn't needed I think? So there's a chance it was created just to appear to do something. 3) In that case I see Xatalos tried to fakeclaim a check on disformation. The only reason I'm suspicious of this being distancing rather than just a desperate clinging to straws, is that if I was on the mafia team, I'd immediately shoot a town disformation the next night, just to get rid of his activity and the fact a flipped mafia "spewed" him town. However, it is important to note I would _never_ suppose we try to lynch disfo at this point. If he is mafia, we simply look for the other two mafia. His sheer activity is too much to justify basically ever lynching him. And he is, even if you can question it, spewed town by Xatalos. 4) ES doesn't really sound like mafia. I don't read his posts and come across thinking he's overly careful or reserved. In conclusion, unless I run out of people to lynch, I am removing ES, VA and Disfo from the lynch list today. (There's no way I'm reading Disfo's filter). The cheapest town reads in the game, overexlained. | ||
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beentheredonethat
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On June 26 2017 19:03 Palmar wrote: I'm gonna give rayn's filter a pause (I've maybe read bottom 20-30% of it) and read btdt. "I'll stop trying to create a fake case on rayn and instead fake case btdt because that might be easier" | ||
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beentheredonethat
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On June 26 2017 19:19 Palmar wrote: He never voted Xata on day 1. I'm gonna wait for someone who knows more about the game to tell me why I can be wrong. But honestly, this is like a 100% mafia case under any normal circumstances. I'm just slightly unsure because of my complete lack of reading. btw, to summarize my game-state (I'm taking a break), it's currently at this: Good reasons to think town Disfo VA ES Some reasons to think town rayn ruxxar Good reasons to think mafia btdt Unread/No opinion Rels Skynx (lingering townlean from earlier reading) Blazinghand FecalFeast Prime example for "uhhhh guys this guy is scum but I don't wanna commit because if he flips town, well, guys, don't lynch me for that" | ||
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On June 26 2017 19:19 Palmar wrote: He never voted Xata on day 1. I'm gonna wait for someone who knows more about the game to tell me why I can be wrong. But honestly, this is like a 100% mafia case under any normal circumstances. I'm just slightly unsure because of my complete lack of reading. btw, to summarize my game-state (I'm taking a break), it's currently at this: Good reasons to think town Disfo VA ES Some reasons to think town rayn ruxxar Good reasons to think mafia btdt Unread/No opinion Rels Skynx (lingering townlean from earlier reading) Blazinghand FecalFeast What a coincidence Even overexplaining the Skynx read. | ||
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beentheredonethat
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On June 26 2017 21:04 Palmar wrote: because I'm a lot less mafia than he is. Like I'm only mafia a very little bit. Mostly I'm town. My spirit animal is grass. Because it's green. You haven't participated in the game until the very moment you are under serious pressure and the tides for the scum team are turning. That is the very definiton of lurky scum and if you get away with this and/or the game, I will nominate every single person that is townsided in this game for the worst town performance 2017 and potentially OAT even. | ||
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You're super misrepresenting my D1. You paint me saying "Koshi looks better" but like 2 posts later, I retract that and say "nope, he doesn't". This is actually me being townie since reconsidering and reevaluating are town traits. is that you go like "oh koshi looks better... still good vote" so you kinda look like you are reevaluating... but arent really. you also didnt really explain what you disliked in koshis filter outside of 2 bad posts you point out very early, that 1 "rage" post and general meta. so it is overall a very hard to grasp read | ||
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and if skynx and palmar are scum together, skynx jumping on the just like that looks a tad suspicious, no? | ||
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beentheredonethat
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On June 26 2017 22:25 disformation wrote: well btdt the problem in: is that you go like "oh koshi looks better... still good vote" so you kinda look like you are reevaluating... but arent really. you also didnt really explain what you disliked in koshis filter outside of 2 bad posts you point out very early, that 1 "rage" post and general meta. so it is overall a very hard to grasp read Here I say Koshi looks better: On June 15 2017 17:49 beentheredonethat wrote: Good morning. It's a bank holiday today in Germany and I am spending it with my GF on a wandering tour. I'll probably be in front of a computer in the evening if at all. I skimmed everything besides the last two pages. Koshi looks better, Xata worse. Ruxxar weird. My mind screamed TOWN when I read rayns big post but I didn't like that he disappeared right after. Hf still town. Disfo not town anymore because rayn made me paranoid. Thats kind of where im at. And here I say Koshi doesn't look better: On June 16 2017 02:04 beentheredonethat wrote: This is the thing why I don't buy Koshi's "rage" by the way. Like, when you start a big sentence, people will remember the first and the last thing you said and not the whole rest. The structure used here is "I am obvious town", then blabla reasons "just because", followed up by "you're so fucking blind it's hilarious". Koshi shouldn't put emphasis on WHAT he is. He will always claim town, as anyone would, regardless of actual alignment. But instead, he yells "I AM TOWN", puts the reasoning (which is the IMPORTANT part) right between two seemingly emotional statements I have caught Koshi already as scum D1 and I'm fairly confident here. When I skimmed this morning he looked better but I just skimmed. so, yeah. my vote is good where it's at. You can clearly see: 1. btdt comes into the thread, has caught up the last pages, and gives his impression on things. There is no in-depth thought process involved, it's just a light-hearted "hey guys, this is where I'm at" 2. btdt comes back into the thread, having invested more thoughts, having reconsidered Koshi. btdt explains why Koshi is not looking better although btdt said he looked better. I don't know why exactly this is bad. | ||
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On June 26 2017 22:30 disformation wrote: also a tad too much omgus. and if skynx and palmar are scum together, skynx jumping on the just like that looks a tad suspicious, no? Skynx and Palmar are both voting me. But Skynx thinks Palmar is scum. Note how Skynx prefers to lynch the guy who scumreads him over the guy who's scum-but-not-really-scum-reading him. | ||
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On June 26 2017 22:34 beentheredonethat wrote: Here I say Koshi looks better: And here I say Koshi doesn't look better: You can clearly see: 1. btdt comes into the thread, has caught up the last pages, and gives his impression on things. There is no in-depth thought process involved, it's just a light-hearted "hey guys, this is where I'm at" 2. btdt comes back into the thread, having invested more thoughts, having reconsidered Koshi. btdt explains why Koshi is not looking better although btdt said he looked better. I don't know why exactly this is bad. ah. i think i get it now. there was a bunch of time in between the posts. so i didnt grasp the connection. but since there were like 8h between the posts. why didnt you switch votes? if xata looks worse and koshi better, wouldn't xata be #1 scum and koshi #2? even if you later decide to have been wrong on koshi looking better. | ||
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On June 26 2017 22:36 beentheredonethat wrote: Skynx and Palmar are both voting me. But Skynx thinks Palmar is scum. Note how Skynx prefers to lynch the guy who scumreads him over the guy who's scum-but-not-really-scum-reading him. aight noted. if you are town there is a good chance you have at least 1 scummer on you. | ||
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