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Also James spilled me out as town I think if I read his filter correctly :D
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EoD scum team didn't seem to have control of who was getting lynched after people piled on to James so either they were afk or didn't care. I think it's the former honestly. I don't think they would let the gf die without a fight.
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On June 05 2017 09:21 Prison Break wrote:
or they tried to get me instead?
Looking at the vote count I don't think so. After James the vote count was all over the place.
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On June 05 2017 09:39 Prison Break wrote:
I mean how many scum are there. I assume 3? one was fidei. Maybe one was AFK. So you make any conclusions on this based off literally 1 person who did or didn't fight it?
At least 1 was afk if not maybe 2 with James. If both scum were around EoD then they made a error letting James get lynched in that fashion.
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On June 05 2017 09:59 Blazinghand wrote:Show nested quote +On June 05 2017 09:50 LightningStrike wrote:On June 05 2017 09:39 Prison Break wrote:
I mean how many scum are there. I assume 3? one was fidei. Maybe one was AFK. So you make any conclusions on this based off literally 1 person who did or didn't fight it? At least 1 was afk if not maybe 2 with James. If both scum were around EoD then they made a error letting James get lynched in that fashion. Yeah it's possible, I think it was a pretty snappy shenannie though. Shenannies are vastly underrated and people think that scum can stop them but really they're one of the most powerful tools in the town toolbox. As former shenanigan king I assure you this is true
They had like 10 mins I think which is plenty of time to try to sway people away I think.
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ritoky why you wasted your vote EoD when it was clear no one was on me? That was extremely dumb and BH wasting his vote too was terrible we just got lucky on the shannies hitting scum.
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On June 06 2017 03:49 ritoky wrote:Show nested quote +On June 06 2017 03:17 Holyflare wrote:
Hey ritoky how about some input? You had concerns about LS and he was on the mafia lynch and you ain't said shit. i work graveyards in the ER so, i been at work and asleep. i mean what do you want me to say? mechanics and my brain tells me that tomorrow we don't lynch anyone who voted on dead lynch mafia because that's optimal play; but i just think LS is mafia. not only did he have basically no reads while being active and present all d1, but he wasn't even trying to get reads. plus that whole take 5 posts to list every possible scenario of vivax and hf arguing was just a steamy turd. plus you look at his post lynch reaction and compare it to BH (who i think comes off incredibly town); and it's just bad. he is reaching for cred like he led a lynch or hammered a lynch when he is an extraneous vote on a basically 7 vote wagon, and has never even said anything relevant about the guy in his filter. plus you go look at his filter in relation to fid: Show nested quote +On June 03 2017 20:10 LightningStrike wrote:Just woke up not much going on except some really weird argument between TW and TS. On June 03 2017 19:09 Fidei86 wrote:
Hi all! Long time no speak for a lot of you. I've played a bit of video Mafia since I've been away (which I'm horrible at, it turns out) but I'm excited to get back into forums.
I think TW's thinking makes sense if you assume he doesn't know TS's usual posting style (which I think is like almost comically formal); it wasn't immediately obvious to me that TS was joking either. But that said, I'm not sure that I buy TW's switch to town reading TS? TW doesn't recant on his thinking TS is dumb - but if TS is joking then obviously he doesn't believe it, and so isn't dumb?
I also don't like Vivax's read on TS. Asking about RNG lynches isn't driving the game forward either. I'd say TS is null and TW is scummy null; giving them both a town pass at this stage is waaay premature. But at the same time, I do really like Vivax pinging Grack. So overall TR.
The people I really don't like are Onegu, BH, Grack and LS. Everyone else can be forgiven for not being in the thread (HF is British I think, so he gets a pass as well) but each of those has been here and has studiously avoided saying anything meaningful. LS has, what, four or five posts, none saying anything even vaguely game related. I seem to recall LS has trouble getting started as Mafia... this would fit right into that. Actually my last game I had trouble getting started too yet I was town? I guess you haven't followed any games in recent times lol. Filter from last game: http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/mafia/521332-generic-mini-mafia-ii?user=LightningStrikeGranted it still early Day 1 atm. Fidei puts tiny pressure on LS, LS posts a filter link. fidei just stops, then magically LS becomes a town lean. Show nested quote +On June 03 2017 22:52 LightningStrike wrote:On June 03 2017 22:36 Fidei86 wrote:
okay here's the thing I don't get: TW pointed out that TS's response to BH and the "rush" of posts was weird. I agree with TW insofar as that was the way I read it too, at first. But then TS said he was actually joking, which makes sense (and it fits in with TS' posting style insofar as I remember it from previous games). If it had ended there, fair enough. But then TW says "I still think what you said was weird, but you're towny" after TS had said it was a joke. That doesn't make sense to me. Like, TW landed pretty hard on TS for his initial read, and nothing changed other than TS claiming it wasn't serious, but TW's read flipped.
So that's why I think TW is on the scummy side of null (not because his posts were forced, as others were saying). I too thought it was weird which is why I want TW to explain his townread on TS. The way he jumped on TS and later townreading him for that stuff being a joke is very unusual. trashcan post about agreeing things are weird. Show nested quote +On June 05 2017 02:37 LightningStrike wrote:On June 05 2017 02:21 Fidei86 wrote:
LS can you give your top three scum? and top three town? top 3 town: Tubesock: Had some decent content that I agreed with. Grack: Tone says town Grack over scum Grack atm he seems genuine with his posts to BH. ritoky: Put in some work and read part of HF's filter from Generic plus decent content posts. top 3 scum BH: His push on Grack seems forced more or less and made a super big deal out of nothing? Also agreed with Tubeosck's point on him. TW: Didn't really like his reasoning on his townread switch on TS. It just feels weird. Honestly don't got a 3rd scum yet. fidei tossing LS softballs. i don't really think i am conf biasing
James pretty much spewed me town although iffy at best but here the thing. I went on james because it was either TW who claimed doctor or BH who I felt had atownie reaction to wanting to get lynched over the doctor so I went with the james wagon. We got lucky there that James flipped scum. But that leaves the real question:
What the hell scum was doing EoD? The ycould of controlled the lynch yet they didn't. Do you think I would kill my gf that early regardless of what would happen when I care more about the team? I wouldn't risk losing a scum member to shannies at all hell I wouldn't risk it even more on the gf. Also James questions to me I was actually being honest right there I had no 3rd option right at that time.
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ritoky just admit you can't read me for shit especially in the Im the Cop You Idiot game -.-
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Also here my doubts of James flipping scum:
On June 05 2017 08:58 LightningStrike wrote:
I not feeling good about this switch to james now with everyone jumping on broad.
I was rather surprised about the flip there as shown here:
On June 05 2017 09:10 LightningStrike wrote:
lmao didn't expect that flip. Either mafia was afk EoD or are willing to bus James for no reason.
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Like if you thought I was going for credit there I wasn't I was just showing my pure emotions at the lynch.
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On June 06 2017 04:30 ritoky wrote:Show nested quote +On June 06 2017 04:12 LightningStrike wrote:On June 06 2017 03:49 ritoky wrote:On June 06 2017 03:17 Holyflare wrote:
Hey ritoky how about some input? You had concerns about LS and he was on the mafia lynch and you ain't said shit. i work graveyards in the ER so, i been at work and asleep. i mean what do you want me to say? mechanics and my brain tells me that tomorrow we don't lynch anyone who voted on dead lynch mafia because that's optimal play; but i just think LS is mafia. not only did he have basically no reads while being active and present all d1, but he wasn't even trying to get reads. plus that whole take 5 posts to list every possible scenario of vivax and hf arguing was just a steamy turd. plus you look at his post lynch reaction and compare it to BH (who i think comes off incredibly town); and it's just bad. he is reaching for cred like he led a lynch or hammered a lynch when he is an extraneous vote on a basically 7 vote wagon, and has never even said anything relevant about the guy in his filter. plus you go look at his filter in relation to fid: On June 03 2017 20:10 LightningStrike wrote:Just woke up not much going on except some really weird argument between TW and TS. On June 03 2017 19:09 Fidei86 wrote:
Hi all! Long time no speak for a lot of you. I've played a bit of video Mafia since I've been away (which I'm horrible at, it turns out) but I'm excited to get back into forums.
I think TW's thinking makes sense if you assume he doesn't know TS's usual posting style (which I think is like almost comically formal); it wasn't immediately obvious to me that TS was joking either. But that said, I'm not sure that I buy TW's switch to town reading TS? TW doesn't recant on his thinking TS is dumb - but if TS is joking then obviously he doesn't believe it, and so isn't dumb?
I also don't like Vivax's read on TS. Asking about RNG lynches isn't driving the game forward either. I'd say TS is null and TW is scummy null; giving them both a town pass at this stage is waaay premature. But at the same time, I do really like Vivax pinging Grack. So overall TR.
The people I really don't like are Onegu, BH, Grack and LS. Everyone else can be forgiven for not being in the thread (HF is British I think, so he gets a pass as well) but each of those has been here and has studiously avoided saying anything meaningful. LS has, what, four or five posts, none saying anything even vaguely game related. I seem to recall LS has trouble getting started as Mafia... this would fit right into that. Actually my last game I had trouble getting started too yet I was town? I guess you haven't followed any games in recent times lol. Filter from last game: http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/mafia/521332-generic-mini-mafia-ii?user=LightningStrikeGranted it still early Day 1 atm. Fidei puts tiny pressure on LS, LS posts a filter link. fidei just stops, then magically LS becomes a town lean. On June 03 2017 22:52 LightningStrike wrote:On June 03 2017 22:36 Fidei86 wrote:
okay here's the thing I don't get: TW pointed out that TS's response to BH and the "rush" of posts was weird. I agree with TW insofar as that was the way I read it too, at first. But then TS said he was actually joking, which makes sense (and it fits in with TS' posting style insofar as I remember it from previous games). If it had ended there, fair enough. But then TW says "I still think what you said was weird, but you're towny" after TS had said it was a joke. That doesn't make sense to me. Like, TW landed pretty hard on TS for his initial read, and nothing changed other than TS claiming it wasn't serious, but TW's read flipped.
So that's why I think TW is on the scummy side of null (not because his posts were forced, as others were saying). I too thought it was weird which is why I want TW to explain his townread on TS. The way he jumped on TS and later townreading him for that stuff being a joke is very unusual. trashcan post about agreeing things are weird. On June 05 2017 02:37 LightningStrike wrote:On June 05 2017 02:21 Fidei86 wrote:
LS can you give your top three scum? and top three town? top 3 town: Tubesock: Had some decent content that I agreed with. Grack: Tone says town Grack over scum Grack atm he seems genuine with his posts to BH. ritoky: Put in some work and read part of HF's filter from Generic plus decent content posts. top 3 scum BH: His push on Grack seems forced more or less and made a super big deal out of nothing? Also agreed with Tubeosck's point on him. TW: Didn't really like his reasoning on his townread switch on TS. It just feels weird. Honestly don't got a 3rd scum yet. fidei tossing LS softballs. i don't really think i am conf biasing James pretty much spewed me town although iffy at best but here the thing. I went on james because it was either TW who claimed doctor or BH who I felt had atownie reaction to wanting to get lynched over the doctor so I went with the james wagon. We got lucky there that James flipped scum. But that leaves the real question: What the hell scum was doing EoD? The ycould of controlled the lynch yet they didn't. Do you think I would kill my gf that early regardless of what would happen when I care more about the team? I wouldn't risk losing a scum member to shannies at all hell I wouldn't risk it even more on the gf. Also James questions to me I was actually being honest right there I had no 3rd option right at that time. i reject that you had any influence EoD on the vote; and personal relationships are relevant cuz?
I would of actually tried to influence them to stay on BH or get back on BH at that time if I was scum there and James asked me a question so I decided to be honest about my answer of not having 3 scums. You know very well I don't normally got that many scum until maybe Day 2 or 3 max -.-
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On June 06 2017 04:29 ritoky wrote:Show nested quote +On June 06 2017 04:08 LightningStrike wrote:
ritoky why you wasted your vote EoD when it was clear no one was on me? That was extremely dumb and BH wasting his vote too was terrible we just got lucky on the shannies hitting scum. bh waited until the dude was basically in the ground b4 playing games, he didn't endanger shit. and wasted my vote? i came back with 3 minutes, barely grasped that a blue had been claimed and voted on the next up on my list. you act like my vote could have done anything. i don't see a quadruple voter role in this game.
It still makes you and BH look bad for VCA that why I giving a damn about it. We both know wasting votes regardless of the flip is terrible.
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Anyways I going to pick up my cat she had to go back to the vet for stuff.
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Just got back from the vet:
On June 06 2017 04:43 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On June 06 2017 04:42 LightningStrike wrote:On June 06 2017 04:29 ritoky wrote:On June 06 2017 04:08 LightningStrike wrote:
ritoky why you wasted your vote EoD when it was clear no one was on me? That was extremely dumb and BH wasting his vote too was terrible we just got lucky on the shannies hitting scum. bh waited until the dude was basically in the ground b4 playing games, he didn't endanger shit. and wasted my vote? i came back with 3 minutes, barely grasped that a blue had been claimed and voted on the next up on my list. you act like my vote could have done anything. i don't see a quadruple voter role in this game. It still makes you and BH look bad for VCA that why I giving a damn about it. We both know wasting votes regardless of the flip is terrible. no it doesn't really
Damdred told me this in one of the games in my early days of playing no joke there.
On June 06 2017 04:46 ritoky wrote:Show nested quote +On June 06 2017 04:42 LightningStrike wrote:On June 06 2017 04:29 ritoky wrote:On June 06 2017 04:08 LightningStrike wrote:
ritoky why you wasted your vote EoD when it was clear no one was on me? That was extremely dumb and BH wasting his vote too was terrible we just got lucky on the shannies hitting scum. bh waited until the dude was basically in the ground b4 playing games, he didn't endanger shit. and wasted my vote? i came back with 3 minutes, barely grasped that a blue had been claimed and voted on the next up on my list. you act like my vote could have done anything. i don't see a quadruple voter role in this game. It still makes you and BH look bad for VCA that why I giving a damn about it. We both know wasting votes regardless of the flip is terrible. i mean i could sit here and argue back that i would have voted on fid for the free cred if i come back to the thread and my partner is basically dead. but where's that gonna get us?
Some towncred you could use for later.
On June 06 2017 04:49 ritoky wrote:
i don't get you LS. do you think i am wrong or mafia? i feel like you're talking to me like i am wrong, not mafia; which is just bizarre.
I don't know honestly like I thought you were townie early on but your EoD voting on a off wagon that wasn't going to happen seems sketchy. Which is a issue I had with BH too EoD on his vote switch to Vivax.
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Also Vivax not really posting anything is pretty odd for him and might be alignment indicative for him.
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On June 06 2017 05:42 Vivax wrote:
Yea well if you think I'm mafia for afking this game shoot me tonight cause I'm pulling a rayn and will be afk.
Just gonna vote when either of HF or BH gets lynched and make a token post during the day.
Why you so sure BH and HF are scum?
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On June 06 2017 08:48 Holyflare wrote:
The correct play at night is to play just as you would in the day.
Also I'm going to bed. Tumblewood isn't medic, I am vet.
Why didn't you you were the vet EoD before shannies happened?
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On June 06 2017 08:52 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On June 06 2017 08:48 Holyflare wrote:
The correct play at night is to play just as you would in the day.
Also I'm going to bed. Tumblewood isn't medic, I am vet. Why didn't you say you were the vet EoD before shannies happened?
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Is this going to be Generic Mafia all over again?
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On June 06 2017 08:56 Holyflare wrote:I did
I mean actually claiming your role not just saying he's not the doctor.....
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