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@HF I'm not sure BH is a coin-flip. Refusing utterly to engage in the game in a meaningful way - and indeed shitting up the thread with pointless nonsense - that is the most ANTI-TOWN behaviour you can have. Not caring about solving the game is basically the definition of anti-town. It's not even like BH has been mostly afk (like Onegu) he's actively done it.
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On June 05 2017 04:04 ritoky wrote:
why would grack be town?
Page 2 of his filter has plenty of townie posts. Also PoE cause I'm currently thinking mafia is BH/HF/PB with a +-1 margin of error or something like that. Maybe LS but I don't think he looks that bad apart from thinking that TW reading TS town after missing the joke is scummy.
+ Show Spoiler +On June 04 2017 22:26 Grackaroni wrote:Show nested quote +On June 03 2017 23:21 beentheredonethat wrote:Tumblewood missing Tubesock's joke in disformation fashion, full frontal. I rate that as a towny thing. The joke itself is kinda NAI, too, but then again, why would scum start to push ahead a game when they can just rely on a lackluster game start with the EU people still asleep? I feel like Tubesock is town here, too. On June 03 2017 10:42 Prison Break wrote:
RNG votes are cool, an RNG lynch seems horrible, doesn't give any information and turns the game into auto + there's no way to actually check if it's random and you don't know if the person determining the "random" factor is town or scum either This post feels super weird. First of all, you're here as a newbie, you're not supposed to judge if something's "cool" or not, right? The content of your post is supercorrect yet super obvious, so you do not add any value at all to the discussion. On June 03 2017 16:15 Vivax wrote:
Early reads:
Tube town for pushing game forward and being proactive.
TW town for lashing out at something he didn't like and avoiding his scum play lazy buddying. It looked overly emotional to me but he claims it wasn't.
Grack scum for being lazy, passive and kind of just reacting to things around him without attempting to reach a satisfactory conclusion or looking like he wanted to. Neither shitpost-y grack nor tryhard-y grack. Just bore-y grack.
Rest null. I do agree with this post. Except I wouldn't put Grack on the scum pile yet because in Generic II, he played like this all game and was town. On June 03 2017 21:31 Conversion wrote:
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I'm here-- generally a hectic weekend personally so apologies that I was late! That's all fine and dandy but if you've been here for about an hour, why aren't you posting? In the second line he tags one of the most generic posts possible as "super weird" I also didn't like that he goes out of his way to quote Vivax to say that he agrees with something that he had just said at the top of his post. Nagging someone to contribute at the end adds to the perception that he's trying to fluff up contributions. Plus I generally find pestering people to post annoying. Also he called me a baddie. It actually wasn't as bad of a post as I thought though because his whole schtick in the next post is that PB is making fluff posts, which is a fair argument. That may be what he meant by super weird in the second line. On June 04 2017 23:41 Grackaroni wrote:
HF might be scum for still thinking Fidei is scum. It's hard to be that self-righteous as scum. I think I gave him/her an asthma attack. On June 04 2017 23:51 Grackaroni wrote:
I have a feeling that TW is town too even though his read on me makes no sense.
I think these posts come off fairly townie and I simply like the way Grack puts them out there and for example how he found something that doesn't make sense in TW yet doesn't use it as an excuse to push him when there's baddies like HF trying to get him lynched.
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On June 05 2017 04:15 Fidei86 wrote:
@HF I'm not sure BH is a coin-flip. Refusing utterly to engage in the game in a meaningful way - and indeed shitting up the thread with pointless nonsense - that is the most ANTI-TOWN behaviour you can have. Not caring about solving the game is basically the definition of anti-town. It's not even like BH has been mostly afk (like Onegu) he's actively done it.
he does this in absolutely every game possible so, yes, a coin flip
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which is why it's absolutely bull shit
ABSOLUTELY
that vivax is pushing it like BH is definitely gonna flip mafia
and it's bull shit that Tumblewood looked into BH meta and saw anything other than BH repeatedly pushing rng lynches in every game
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On June 05 2017 04:07 ritoky wrote:Show nested quote +On June 05 2017 04:06 beentheredonethat wrote:im super good as scum i super suck as town story of my life  cool, talk about people not named BTDT and conversion. go.
you're town
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On June 05 2017 04:13 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On June 05 2017 04:08 Vivax wrote:On June 04 2017 09:43 Prison Break wrote:On June 04 2017 09:06 Holyflare wrote:
Lynch Tumblewood. Tumblewood: "I get the sense that we have a lot of townies running around and accusing other townies what if we lynched blazinghand I don't have a real reason he's scum but the rest of the game makes a lot more sense if he is" Holyflare, do you think Tumblewood is defending possible teammates here (aka someone who is getting pressure right now that he's trying to defuse)? I think Tumblewood make a bad push, but his response after realizing it was joking makes sense, including the "fuck". Town doesn't want to be wrong and frustration can lead to moments where you'd say "fuck". If he was mafia would there be a reason for him to say that? Not what to think on the push on blazinghand. I've seen town play like Blazinghand but not scum, so leaning town on him. That doesn't mean his "lie" on grack means anything - hell, Blazinghand reminds me of myself as town a bit and how I used to think, like I would catch people lying and push it, but I learned that catching a lie doesn't equal those players actually being scum. Although they could, but this seems like a silly thing to lie about. Like there's no value to be gained for Grack to say this if he knows he's going to get called out for it for because wrong. So I'd say he probably just forgot? So I'd say Blazinghand is town and Grack I have yet to decide.All things considered I see you vs tumblewood being possible town vs town. My townread on you is based on the fact I can at least understand your push on tumblewood (since I considered it as well), and your townread on me (I think scum could've used town paranoia of me being scum slipping through last game to push me, you defusing this immediately gives towncred), I also like how HF called BTDT's post bad. HF seems tryhard, I wonder if he as scum would be this tryhard esp after last game, so based on that I'm leaning his as town right now. Btw this post is bad. Assumption that Grack made that play as town and explain why it doesn't come from scum -> Then end up with no conclusion on Grack. Also lots of over-explaining. This post you quote is actually an amazingly good post that surmises why being caught out in a lie doesn't necessarily make someone scum and is in fact relating to Blazinghand's alignment and not Grack's like you purport it to.
Yes he's basically saying he doesn't believe a word of what BH calls Grack scum for yet concludes that BH is town and Grack is null, with a lot of fluff on top.
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HF doesn't think my tunnel is genuine but it doesn't seem to be enough for him to push me so I assume he's townreading me?
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On June 05 2017 04:20 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On June 05 2017 04:13 Holyflare wrote:On June 05 2017 04:08 Vivax wrote:On June 04 2017 09:43 Prison Break wrote:On June 04 2017 09:06 Holyflare wrote:
Lynch Tumblewood. Tumblewood: "I get the sense that we have a lot of townies running around and accusing other townies what if we lynched blazinghand I don't have a real reason he's scum but the rest of the game makes a lot more sense if he is" Holyflare, do you think Tumblewood is defending possible teammates here (aka someone who is getting pressure right now that he's trying to defuse)? I think Tumblewood make a bad push, but his response after realizing it was joking makes sense, including the "fuck". Town doesn't want to be wrong and frustration can lead to moments where you'd say "fuck". If he was mafia would there be a reason for him to say that? Not what to think on the push on blazinghand. I've seen town play like Blazinghand but not scum, so leaning town on him. That doesn't mean his "lie" on grack means anything - hell, Blazinghand reminds me of myself as town a bit and how I used to think, like I would catch people lying and push it, but I learned that catching a lie doesn't equal those players actually being scum. Although they could, but this seems like a silly thing to lie about. Like there's no value to be gained for Grack to say this if he knows he's going to get called out for it for because wrong. So I'd say he probably just forgot? So I'd say Blazinghand is town and Grack I have yet to decide.All things considered I see you vs tumblewood being possible town vs town. My townread on you is based on the fact I can at least understand your push on tumblewood (since I considered it as well), and your townread on me (I think scum could've used town paranoia of me being scum slipping through last game to push me, you defusing this immediately gives towncred), I also like how HF called BTDT's post bad. HF seems tryhard, I wonder if he as scum would be this tryhard esp after last game, so based on that I'm leaning his as town right now. Btw this post is bad. Assumption that Grack made that play as town and explain why it doesn't come from scum -> Then end up with no conclusion on Grack. Also lots of over-explaining. This post you quote is actually an amazingly good post that surmises why being caught out in a lie doesn't necessarily make someone scum and is in fact relating to Blazinghand's alignment and not Grack's like you purport it to. Yes he's basically saying he doesn't believe a word of what BH calls Grack scum for yet concludes that BH is town and Grack is null, with a lot of fluff on top.
Best case 2017
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On June 05 2017 04:21 beentheredonethat wrote:
HF doesn't think my tunnel is genuine but it doesn't seem to be enough for him to push me so I assume he's townreading me?
no I nothing read you because I want you to do something else
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On June 05 2017 04:20 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On June 05 2017 04:13 Holyflare wrote:On June 05 2017 04:08 Vivax wrote:On June 04 2017 09:43 Prison Break wrote:On June 04 2017 09:06 Holyflare wrote:
Lynch Tumblewood. Tumblewood: "I get the sense that we have a lot of townies running around and accusing other townies what if we lynched blazinghand I don't have a real reason he's scum but the rest of the game makes a lot more sense if he is" Holyflare, do you think Tumblewood is defending possible teammates here (aka someone who is getting pressure right now that he's trying to defuse)? I think Tumblewood make a bad push, but his response after realizing it was joking makes sense, including the "fuck". Town doesn't want to be wrong and frustration can lead to moments where you'd say "fuck". If he was mafia would there be a reason for him to say that? Not what to think on the push on blazinghand. I've seen town play like Blazinghand but not scum, so leaning town on him. That doesn't mean his "lie" on grack means anything - hell, Blazinghand reminds me of myself as town a bit and how I used to think, like I would catch people lying and push it, but I learned that catching a lie doesn't equal those players actually being scum. Although they could, but this seems like a silly thing to lie about. Like there's no value to be gained for Grack to say this if he knows he's going to get called out for it for because wrong. So I'd say he probably just forgot? So I'd say Blazinghand is town and Grack I have yet to decide.All things considered I see you vs tumblewood being possible town vs town. My townread on you is based on the fact I can at least understand your push on tumblewood (since I considered it as well), and your townread on me (I think scum could've used town paranoia of me being scum slipping through last game to push me, you defusing this immediately gives towncred), I also like how HF called BTDT's post bad. HF seems tryhard, I wonder if he as scum would be this tryhard esp after last game, so based on that I'm leaning his as town right now. Btw this post is bad. Assumption that Grack made that play as town and explain why it doesn't come from scum -> Then end up with no conclusion on Grack. Also lots of over-explaining. This post you quote is actually an amazingly good post that surmises why being caught out in a lie doesn't necessarily make someone scum and is in fact relating to Blazinghand's alignment and not Grack's like you purport it to. Yes he's basically saying he doesn't believe a word of what BH calls Grack scum for yet concludes that BH is town and Grack is null, with a lot of fluff on top.
I'm super fine with lynching PB, this guy smells like scum. The overall tone of his post is so super soft, so not-pushy, so calm, so zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
really lynch pb
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On June 05 2017 04:20 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On June 05 2017 04:13 Holyflare wrote:On June 05 2017 04:08 Vivax wrote:On June 04 2017 09:43 Prison Break wrote:On June 04 2017 09:06 Holyflare wrote:
Lynch Tumblewood. Tumblewood: "I get the sense that we have a lot of townies running around and accusing other townies what if we lynched blazinghand I don't have a real reason he's scum but the rest of the game makes a lot more sense if he is" Holyflare, do you think Tumblewood is defending possible teammates here (aka someone who is getting pressure right now that he's trying to defuse)? I think Tumblewood make a bad push, but his response after realizing it was joking makes sense, including the "fuck". Town doesn't want to be wrong and frustration can lead to moments where you'd say "fuck". If he was mafia would there be a reason for him to say that? Not what to think on the push on blazinghand. I've seen town play like Blazinghand but not scum, so leaning town on him. That doesn't mean his "lie" on grack means anything - hell, Blazinghand reminds me of myself as town a bit and how I used to think, like I would catch people lying and push it, but I learned that catching a lie doesn't equal those players actually being scum. Although they could, but this seems like a silly thing to lie about. Like there's no value to be gained for Grack to say this if he knows he's going to get called out for it for because wrong. So I'd say he probably just forgot? So I'd say Blazinghand is town and Grack I have yet to decide.All things considered I see you vs tumblewood being possible town vs town. My townread on you is based on the fact I can at least understand your push on tumblewood (since I considered it as well), and your townread on me (I think scum could've used town paranoia of me being scum slipping through last game to push me, you defusing this immediately gives towncred), I also like how HF called BTDT's post bad. HF seems tryhard, I wonder if he as scum would be this tryhard esp after last game, so based on that I'm leaning his as town right now. Btw this post is bad. Assumption that Grack made that play as town and explain why it doesn't come from scum -> Then end up with no conclusion on Grack. Also lots of over-explaining. This post you quote is actually an amazingly good post that surmises why being caught out in a lie doesn't necessarily make someone scum and is in fact relating to Blazinghand's alignment and not Grack's like you purport it to. Yes he's basically saying he doesn't believe a word of what BH calls Grack scum for yet concludes that BH is town and Grack is null, with a lot of fluff on top.
what an incredible misrepresentation
he believes that BH has caught Grack in a lie but that lie could just be Grack being forgetful, so yes, you're absolutely pushing complete bull shit in PB's way
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On June 05 2017 04:17 Vivax wrote:Page 2 of his filter has plenty of townie posts. Also PoE cause I'm currently thinking mafia is BH/HF/PB with a +-1 margin of error or something like that. Maybe LS but I don't think he looks that bad apart from thinking that TW reading TS town after missing the joke is scummy. + Show Spoiler +On June 04 2017 22:26 Grackaroni wrote:Show nested quote +On June 03 2017 23:21 beentheredonethat wrote:Tumblewood missing Tubesock's joke in disformation fashion, full frontal. I rate that as a towny thing. The joke itself is kinda NAI, too, but then again, why would scum start to push ahead a game when they can just rely on a lackluster game start with the EU people still asleep? I feel like Tubesock is town here, too. On June 03 2017 10:42 Prison Break wrote:
RNG votes are cool, an RNG lynch seems horrible, doesn't give any information and turns the game into auto + there's no way to actually check if it's random and you don't know if the person determining the "random" factor is town or scum either This post feels super weird. First of all, you're here as a newbie, you're not supposed to judge if something's "cool" or not, right? The content of your post is supercorrect yet super obvious, so you do not add any value at all to the discussion. On June 03 2017 16:15 Vivax wrote:
Early reads:
Tube town for pushing game forward and being proactive.
TW town for lashing out at something he didn't like and avoiding his scum play lazy buddying. It looked overly emotional to me but he claims it wasn't.
Grack scum for being lazy, passive and kind of just reacting to things around him without attempting to reach a satisfactory conclusion or looking like he wanted to. Neither shitpost-y grack nor tryhard-y grack. Just bore-y grack.
Rest null. I do agree with this post. Except I wouldn't put Grack on the scum pile yet because in Generic II, he played like this all game and was town. On June 03 2017 21:31 Conversion wrote:
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I'm here-- generally a hectic weekend personally so apologies that I was late! That's all fine and dandy but if you've been here for about an hour, why aren't you posting? In the second line he tags one of the most generic posts possible as "super weird" I also didn't like that he goes out of his way to quote Vivax to say that he agrees with something that he had just said at the top of his post. Nagging someone to contribute at the end adds to the perception that he's trying to fluff up contributions. Plus I generally find pestering people to post annoying. Also he called me a baddie. It actually wasn't as bad of a post as I thought though because his whole schtick in the next post is that PB is making fluff posts, which is a fair argument. That may be what he meant by super weird in the second line. On June 04 2017 23:41 Grackaroni wrote:
HF might be scum for still thinking Fidei is scum. It's hard to be that self-righteous as scum. I think I gave him/her an asthma attack. On June 04 2017 23:51 Grackaroni wrote:
I have a feeling that TW is town too even though his read on me makes no sense. I think these posts come off fairly townie and I simply like the way Grack puts them out there and for example how he found something that doesn't make sense in TW yet doesn't use it as an excuse to push him when there's baddies like HF trying to get him lynched.
a bh/hf team? you think hf defends a teammate who has contributed this little (BH) this hard on d1? i don't think that aligns with how hf plays mafia.
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On June 05 2017 04:23 ritoky wrote:Show nested quote +On June 05 2017 04:17 Vivax wrote:On June 05 2017 04:04 ritoky wrote:
why would grack be town? Page 2 of his filter has plenty of townie posts. Also PoE cause I'm currently thinking mafia is BH/HF/PB with a +-1 margin of error or something like that. Maybe LS but I don't think he looks that bad apart from thinking that TW reading TS town after missing the joke is scummy. + Show Spoiler +On June 04 2017 22:26 Grackaroni wrote:Show nested quote +On June 03 2017 23:21 beentheredonethat wrote:Tumblewood missing Tubesock's joke in disformation fashion, full frontal. I rate that as a towny thing. The joke itself is kinda NAI, too, but then again, why would scum start to push ahead a game when they can just rely on a lackluster game start with the EU people still asleep? I feel like Tubesock is town here, too. On June 03 2017 10:42 Prison Break wrote:
RNG votes are cool, an RNG lynch seems horrible, doesn't give any information and turns the game into auto + there's no way to actually check if it's random and you don't know if the person determining the "random" factor is town or scum either This post feels super weird. First of all, you're here as a newbie, you're not supposed to judge if something's "cool" or not, right? The content of your post is supercorrect yet super obvious, so you do not add any value at all to the discussion. On June 03 2017 16:15 Vivax wrote:
Early reads:
Tube town for pushing game forward and being proactive.
TW town for lashing out at something he didn't like and avoiding his scum play lazy buddying. It looked overly emotional to me but he claims it wasn't.
Grack scum for being lazy, passive and kind of just reacting to things around him without attempting to reach a satisfactory conclusion or looking like he wanted to. Neither shitpost-y grack nor tryhard-y grack. Just bore-y grack.
Rest null. I do agree with this post. Except I wouldn't put Grack on the scum pile yet because in Generic II, he played like this all game and was town. On June 03 2017 21:31 Conversion wrote:
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I'm here-- generally a hectic weekend personally so apologies that I was late! That's all fine and dandy but if you've been here for about an hour, why aren't you posting? In the second line he tags one of the most generic posts possible as "super weird" I also didn't like that he goes out of his way to quote Vivax to say that he agrees with something that he had just said at the top of his post. Nagging someone to contribute at the end adds to the perception that he's trying to fluff up contributions. Plus I generally find pestering people to post annoying. Also he called me a baddie. It actually wasn't as bad of a post as I thought though because his whole schtick in the next post is that PB is making fluff posts, which is a fair argument. That may be what he meant by super weird in the second line. On June 04 2017 23:41 Grackaroni wrote:
HF might be scum for still thinking Fidei is scum. It's hard to be that self-righteous as scum. I think I gave him/her an asthma attack. On June 04 2017 23:51 Grackaroni wrote:
I have a feeling that TW is town too even though his read on me makes no sense. I think these posts come off fairly townie and I simply like the way Grack puts them out there and for example how he found something that doesn't make sense in TW yet doesn't use it as an excuse to push him when there's baddies like HF trying to get him lynched. a bh/hf team? you think hf defends a teammate who has contributed this little (BH) this hard on d1? i don't think that aligns with how hf plays mafia.
HF does what he wants and how he treats alleged teammates is 100% wifom. If you use HFs read on someone to get a read on that someone you already lost before the race even started I made that mistake last game and wanted to lynch Palmar.
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On June 05 2017 03:39 Holyflare wrote:
Why not BTDT who scum reads exclusively newbies and refuses to talk about the rest of the people in the game? Whose current push is calling a guy a liar for phone posting because he did it once in a game. But the problem is he's been called out on it and the guy he's pushing looks towny. He pushed PB similarly and instantly dropped it because I said it was mediocre.
Weird patterns.
Wait wait wait you misrepresenting Unholycandle.
1st scumreading exclusively newbies is one thing but the game is to be continued for some time, right? not sure why it should be bad if I coincidentally start with newbies
2nd "refusing to talk about the rest of the people in the game" wait what again what is this this is plain wrong
3rd yes that's my super push for me it makes perfect sense. whats wrong on calling out someone for something that I have done as scum before? holymoly should I not do this? should I rather shut up and like, say nothing? lurk? it's at least something people cast start working with you little nut
4th i didn't drop anything about PB im totes fine with lynching that guy
you're misrepresenting me in 4 points that's just super bad scummycandle
On June 05 2017 03:48 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On June 05 2017 03:39 Holyflare wrote:
Why not BTDT who scum reads exclusively newbies and refuses to talk about the rest of the people in the game? Whose current push is calling a guy a liar for phone posting because he did it once in a game. But the problem is he's been called out on it and the guy he's pushing looks towny. He pushed PB similarly and instantly dropped it because I said it was mediocre.
Weird patterns. Cause btdt looked realistically frustrated at being scumread and somehow ended up with the attitude that he doesn't care about how he is perceived afterwards and adjusted his posting to a less effort style which makes sense when you are being scumread after posting high effort. I think that's a townie progression.
See, scummycandle? it's actually possible to not scumread me for that but of course as scum pushing for a mislynch you need to paint me red. bah bah bah
lynch pb/holyflare I think is a good move
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On June 05 2017 04:24 Holyflare wrote:
This Vivax push absolutely STINKS.
And it's SAD and it's a DISASTER
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RItoky last game (generic II) we had a lynch day where we were deciding between HF and Palmar. Scum HF went out of his way hard defending Palmar and trying to lynch LS and SL instead (both town) and that ended up in a foreseeable HF lynch for him.
So he basically voluntarily traded himself in resulting in Palmar getting lynched the next day although the outcome would have been the exact same if he didn't. It just made sure we REALLY lynched Palmar cause HF made it look like he was trying to win the game on the spot for both of them.
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