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Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
June 04 2017 17:09 GMT
#361
Ok so he's mafia or LS level town then, good to know.
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
June 04 2017 17:10 GMT
#362
My preferred lynches are BH, btdt, then TW.

BH and TW for already stated reasons. btdt because I don't like nitpickers or martyrs. He's wrong on Conversion, if newbie excuses were the entire content of Cons post then he'd be right but Conversion posts reads and explains them.

I'm fine with HF and TW being in the same category. I mean you're HF the one who survives red checks. And I'm pretty convinced the mods messed up in generic and mislabeled your role when you died.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
June 04 2017 17:12 GMT
#363
I don't think btdt's tunnel looks very genuine at all.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
June 04 2017 17:14 GMT
#364
But maybe I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt. Maybe.

Probably not. But maybe.
Fidei86
Profile Joined May 2015
United Kingdom2116 Posts
June 04 2017 17:21 GMT
#365
LS can you give your top three scum? and top three town?
Prison Break
Profile Joined April 2017
326 Posts
June 04 2017 17:34 GMT
#366
I will post a list of my reads today - I like where my vote is now (based on page 1/14, reading the rest now)
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
June 04 2017 17:37 GMT
#367
On June 05 2017 02:21 Fidei86 wrote:
LS can you give your top three scum? and top three town?

top 3 town:
Tubesock: Had some decent content that I agreed with.
Grack: Tone says town Grack over scum Grack atm he seems genuine with his posts to BH.
ritoky: Put in some work and read part of HF's filter from Generic plus decent content posts.
top 3 scum
BH: His push on Grack seems forced more or less and made a super big deal out of nothing? Also agreed with Tubeosck's point on him.
TW: Didn't really like his reasoning on his townread switch on TS. It just feels weird.
Honestly don't got a 3rd scum yet.

May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
June 04 2017 17:45 GMT
#368
Why did you drop your scum read on me LS?
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
June 04 2017 17:46 GMT
#369
On June 05 2017 02:45 Holyflare wrote:
Why did you drop your scum read on me LS?

Moved you up to null because I will admit I might be paranoid about you considering yo ujust rolled scum vs me >.>
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22291 Posts
June 04 2017 18:15 GMT
#370
I think we should lynch BH for not trying to form a read on 1gu when he was around and saw his only post.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
June 04 2017 18:32 GMT
#371
This game has 0 direction because nobody wants to talk about anything.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
June 04 2017 18:37 GMT
#372
Like I don't even care if BH does end up being mafia. Why waste your time even talking about him? He's pretty much a coin flip.

Why not Tumblewood who declared BH town based on meta straight away? Who has also town read Grack (who has still done nothing) and has also tried to retroactively justify his grack town read? Who said Tubesock's posts were bad and got the joke after it was explained but still berated him even though he called him town.

Why not fidei who has reads that contradict anything he should be thinking? Who put myself and Tumblewood in the same scummy pile but then realised he didn't actually acknowledge anything I had said and pleaded ignorance after the fact. While pushing the guy I wanted to lynch with my same reasoning.

Why not like 60% of this game really?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22291 Posts
June 04 2017 18:39 GMT
#373
I think the scummiest thing LS has done is his argument about TWs alleged read switch. TW was already vague about it calling it bad and not necessarily scummy, but somehow the entire progression resulted in him TRing Tube and doesn't read scummy to me. He just missed a joke and seemed pissed off about it? Idk. But with the TMI he displayed last game it speaks more of a town TW than a scum TW if we assume TS also town.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
June 04 2017 18:39 GMT
#374
Why not BTDT who scum reads exclusively newbies and refuses to talk about the rest of the people in the game? Whose current push is calling a guy a liar for phone posting because he did it once in a game. But the problem is he's been called out on it and the guy he's pushing looks towny. He pushed PB similarly and instantly dropped it because I said it was mediocre.

Weird patterns.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
June 04 2017 18:41 GMT
#375
Guy who displays he can't help giving out TMI as mafia is town this game for TMI.

- Vivax
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22291 Posts
June 04 2017 18:43 GMT
#376
On June 05 2017 03:37 Holyflare wrote:
Like I don't even care if BH does end up being mafia. Why waste your time even talking about him? He's pretty much a coin flip.

Why not Tumblewood who declared BH town based on meta straight away? Who has also town read Grack (who has still done nothing) and has also tried to retroactively justify his grack town read? Who said Tubesock's posts were bad and got the joke after it was explained but still berated him even though he called him town.

Why not fidei who has reads that contradict anything he should be thinking? Who put myself and Tumblewood in the same scummy pile but then realised he didn't actually acknowledge anything I had said and pleaded ignorance after the fact. While pushing the guy I wanted to lynch with my same reasoning.

Why not like 60% of this game really?


Cause fidei had an opinion that somehow was different than mine and ritoky at points, whom I also TR. And having a weird/different opinion doesn't make people mafia.

Cause Tumble I think is town this game since he doesn't just try to get along with everyone while his tone suggests town.

And lynch BH cause he didn't take the opportunity to display a desire to solve the game when he had the content available.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22291 Posts
June 04 2017 18:45 GMT
#377
On June 05 2017 03:41 Holyflare wrote:
Guy who displays he can't help giving out TMI as mafia is town this game for TMI.

- Vivax


Depending on the timing you look at it, he lashed out at TS initially. Which imo speaks more of town. See thing that doesn't make sense -> bitch about it -> townie progression. No matter if he missed a joke. I don't think that's AI.
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
June 04 2017 18:46 GMT
#378
On June 04 2017 23:17 beentheredonethat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2017 03:53 ritoky wrote:
the person i think is most mafia right now is probably BTDT. i think his reads are cheap and hollow.

he defends TW for missing a joke "full frontal" (w/e the shit that means); when from my experience lacking a sense of humor is more mafia indicative than town.

he defends grack from vivax because of last game? he doesn't disagree with vivax that what grack is doing isn't more scum indicative, he just says "don't call him mafia cuz he said terrible things last game too". read as mafia trying to pocket/protect weak town a bit.

he prods the new player, which is easy for anyone to do.

he calls out PB for sounding wishy-washy....but that makes no sense to me. he has a read on TW and grack from previous games, but not on PB. in the previous game PB was incredibly definitive and made tons of sense pretty much all game long. in this game PB sounds more unsure and makes less sense. it makes me think PB is more likely town, so why does PB sounding dissimilar to last game make him think PB is the same alignment as last game?

dunno....pretty much don't like anything of what he has posted.


PBs reads at that point are wishy-washy, ritoky, and if you call that a solid read, then you're misrepresenting things.

If there are more questions towards me coming from that case, feel free to ask, I'm here.



Yes, his reads were wishy-washy at that point, I agree with you. That's my point. My point is that his reads in the previous game were basically never wishy-washy, they were always definitive. So if he is playing the opposite or different from his previous game, then why are you assuming he is the same alignment as the previous game?
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22291 Posts
June 04 2017 18:48 GMT
#379
On June 05 2017 03:39 Holyflare wrote:
Why not BTDT who scum reads exclusively newbies and refuses to talk about the rest of the people in the game? Whose current push is calling a guy a liar for phone posting because he did it once in a game. But the problem is he's been called out on it and the guy he's pushing looks towny. He pushed PB similarly and instantly dropped it because I said it was mediocre.

Weird patterns.


Cause btdt looked realistically frustrated at being scumread and somehow ended up with the attitude that he doesn't care about how he is perceived afterwards and adjusted his posting to a less effort style which makes sense when you are being scumread after posting high effort. I think that's a townie progression.
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
June 04 2017 18:49 GMT
#380
On June 05 2017 03:43 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2017 03:37 Holyflare wrote:
Like I don't even care if BH does end up being mafia. Why waste your time even talking about him? He's pretty much a coin flip.

Why not Tumblewood who declared BH town based on meta straight away? Who has also town read Grack (who has still done nothing) and has also tried to retroactively justify his grack town read? Who said Tubesock's posts were bad and got the joke after it was explained but still berated him even though he called him town.

Why not fidei who has reads that contradict anything he should be thinking? Who put myself and Tumblewood in the same scummy pile but then realised he didn't actually acknowledge anything I had said and pleaded ignorance after the fact. While pushing the guy I wanted to lynch with my same reasoning.

Why not like 60% of this game really?


Cause fidei had an opinion that somehow was different than mine and ritoky at points, whom I also TR. And having a weird/different opinion doesn't make people mafia.

Cause Tumble I think is town this game since he doesn't just try to get along with everyone while his tone suggests town.

And lynch BH cause he didn't take the opportunity to display a desire to solve the game when he had the content available


He is trying to get along. Or at least avoid confrontation. The meta read on BH is total bullshit. And towning me for being bad is also bullshit.
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