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Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
June 04 2017 18:52 GMT
#381
Vivax could be mafia
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
June 04 2017 18:53 GMT
#382
On June 04 2017 23:41 beentheredonethat wrote:
stuck on page 11, cooking is done.

ritoky town
hf dunno, can be both, if alive >D3, lynch with fire etc

I don't care about pretty much everyone else, can be lynched

except Onegu, for some super weird reason I think Onegu's town
but I'm not gonna share this reason


holy crap.....this is so bad....this might be too bad to be scum.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22191 Posts
June 04 2017 18:53 GMT
#383
On June 05 2017 03:49 Tubesock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2017 03:43 Vivax wrote:
On June 05 2017 03:37 Holyflare wrote:
Like I don't even care if BH does end up being mafia. Why waste your time even talking about him? He's pretty much a coin flip.

Why not Tumblewood who declared BH town based on meta straight away? Who has also town read Grack (who has still done nothing) and has also tried to retroactively justify his grack town read? Who said Tubesock's posts were bad and got the joke after it was explained but still berated him even though he called him town.

Why not fidei who has reads that contradict anything he should be thinking? Who put myself and Tumblewood in the same scummy pile but then realised he didn't actually acknowledge anything I had said and pleaded ignorance after the fact. While pushing the guy I wanted to lynch with my same reasoning.

Why not like 60% of this game really?


Cause fidei had an opinion that somehow was different than mine and ritoky at points, whom I also TR. And having a weird/different opinion doesn't make people mafia.

Cause Tumble I think is town this game since he doesn't just try to get along with everyone while his tone suggests town.

And lynch BH cause he didn't take the opportunity to display a desire to solve the game when he had the content available


He is trying to get along. Or at least avoid confrontation. The meta read on BH is total bullshit. And towning me for being bad is also bullshit.


So basically when nothing was going on in the thread and you drop a joke, mafia tumble randomly decided to push scum on you and then call you town? Doesn't quite compute.

It's much simpler: He didn't realize it was a joke post. It got him worked up that you were lying/talking nonsense in his eyes and he started moaning about it, but then realized he dun goofed, realized his argument was nonsense and walked away in shame.

He could have simply, y'know, done nothing? Be lazy?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22191 Posts
June 04 2017 18:54 GMT
#384
On June 05 2017 03:52 Holyflare wrote:
Vivax could be mafia


Give me one fucking reason for BH to be town this game.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22191 Posts
June 04 2017 18:55 GMT
#385
On June 05 2017 03:53 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2017 23:41 beentheredonethat wrote:
stuck on page 11, cooking is done.

ritoky town
hf dunno, can be both, if alive >D3, lynch with fire etc

I don't care about pretty much everyone else, can be lynched

except Onegu, for some super weird reason I think Onegu's town
but I'm not gonna share this reason


holy crap.....this is so bad....this might be too bad to be scum.


That's townie as hell. Best example of idgaf attitude.
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
June 04 2017 18:55 GMT
#386
On June 05 2017 01:23 Holyflare wrote:
LS what do you think if Fidei putting me in a mafia list with Tumblewood?


I would like an answer to this.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
June 04 2017 18:56 GMT
#387
On June 05 2017 03:54 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2017 03:52 Holyflare wrote:
Vivax could be mafia


Give me one fucking reason for BH to be town this game.


He was surprised that TW meta town read him

He's a coin flip, nothing more.
Conversion
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
June 04 2017 18:56 GMT
#388
I'm reading BTDT's posts over again and it just seems like the majority of his posts are aggressive when replying to me or HF. He then sort of gives up, calls the game boring, and basically says he's going to AFK.

On June 04 2017 23:08 beentheredonethat wrote:
Well I'm not exactly pushing you. It's more like it feels weird that you say "hey, I'm here" and then you leave again. That's just not helping. If you feel like helping, then at least make people ask you questions. "What do you think about the exchange of HF/TW?" "What do is your stance on Vivax?" this is something that helps making yourself more readable. You didn't especially invite people to ask those questions, on the contrary. You're saying "hey guys I'm somewhat playing" so everyone expects you to do things; except you're not doing things so boom, people even start scumreading you.

"What about the others in here" is also not the greatest of things to say. There's no real reason for me to look into anyone right now as I didn't find too much that caught my attention as "super suspicious" (except for the PB thing, ofc), but somehow your "hi bras" post caught my attention. So, no, it's not "clutter" or "unproductive". On the contrary - my slight poke triggered a big "oh noes" post which contains a lot of speculation and "do not look at me". I'm totally fine with people looking into me. I'm town, after all, and I got nothing to hide, I don't have any restrictions in who I'm pushing etc.


Also I find it rather odd that BH's play didn't catch his eye. I still can't comprehend why BH would aggressively pursue Grack as a liar, label him as scum based on that, and just disappear. The fact that even that isn't the least bit suspicious to BTDT and not a reason to look into "anyone else" as he mentioned is weird.

Several quotes after that he completely glosses over the reads that ritoky guided me to make, just tunnels into the phone reason, calls me out for calling Tubesock dodgy and not scumreading him, and then gives up when people (including myself) call his argument bad.

His argument is that he might be over-reading and not giving me leeway because I'm a newbie, but is BTDT really that bad of a mafia player to make all of these weak arguments, give up, then announce his lurking?

Also where are Onegu and BH? Onegu only made posts about catching up and BH disappeared after his Grack scum push..
Conversion
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
June 04 2017 18:59 GMT
#389
NVM I just saw Onegu's big post
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22191 Posts
June 04 2017 19:01 GMT
#390
I don't understand how anyone can take BHs push on Grack seriously, it was obviously just a stand up comedy, although the argument itself is correct (that Grack actually wasn't oblivious to how BH calculates his RNG).

I'm currently inclined to flip my reads on Grack (to town) and HF (to scum)
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
June 04 2017 19:03 GMT
#391
I literally do not care. Even an ounce. Be gone with your posturing and grow some balls and call me mafia if you dare.
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
June 04 2017 19:04 GMT
#392
why would grack be town?
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
June 04 2017 19:04 GMT
#393
There's 0 reason for BH to be mafia.
Equally 0 reason for him to be town.

He's a waste of a lynch.
beentheredonethat
Profile Joined May 2016
2934 Posts
June 04 2017 19:06 GMT
#394
im super good as scum
i super suck as town
story of my life
"Micro tricks like marine splitting, blink stalker micro, and ling/baneling wars were the apex of the game’s achievements; nothing in the world takes your breath away like watching a pro player split marines like a god."
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
June 04 2017 19:07 GMT
#395
On June 05 2017 04:06 beentheredonethat wrote:
im super good as scum
i super suck as town
story of my life


cool, talk about people not named BTDT and conversion. go.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22191 Posts
June 04 2017 19:08 GMT
#396
On June 04 2017 09:43 Prison Break wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2017 09:06 Holyflare wrote:
Lynch Tumblewood.


Tumblewood: "I get the sense that we have a lot of townies running around and accusing other townies
what if we lynched blazinghand
I don't have a real reason he's scum but the rest of the game makes a lot more sense if he is"

Holyflare, do you think Tumblewood is defending possible teammates here (aka someone who is getting pressure right now that he's trying to defuse)?

I think Tumblewood make a bad push, but his response after realizing it was joking makes sense, including the "fuck". Town doesn't want to be wrong and frustration can lead to moments where you'd say "fuck". If he was mafia would there be a reason for him to say that? Not what to think on the push on blazinghand. I've seen town play like Blazinghand but not scum, so leaning town on him. That doesn't mean his "lie" on grack means anything - hell, Blazinghand reminds me of myself as town a bit and how I used to think, like I would catch people lying and push it, but I learned that catching a lie doesn't equal those players actually being scum. Although they could, but this seems like a silly thing to lie about. Like there's no value to be gained for Grack to say this if he knows he's going to get called out for it for because wrong. So I'd say he probably just forgot? So I'd say Blazinghand is town and Grack I have yet to decide.

All things considered I see you vs tumblewood being possible town vs town. My townread on you is based on the fact I can at least understand your push on tumblewood (since I considered it as well), and your townread on me (I think scum could've used town paranoia of me being scum slipping through last game to push me, you defusing this immediately gives towncred), I also like how HF called BTDT's post bad. HF seems tryhard, I wonder if he as scum would be this tryhard esp after last game, so based on that I'm leaning his as town right now.


Btw this post is bad.

Assumption that Grack made that play as town and explain why it doesn't come from scum -> Then end up with no conclusion on Grack.

Also lots of over-explaining.
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
June 04 2017 19:09 GMT
#397
On June 05 2017 03:55 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2017 01:23 Holyflare wrote:
LS what do you think if Fidei putting me in a mafia list with Tumblewood?


I would like an answer to this.

I already did answer it?
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
June 04 2017 19:09 GMT
#398
On June 05 2017 03:52 Holyflare wrote:
Vivax could be mafia

Why you think Vivax could be mafia?
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
June 04 2017 19:13 GMT
#399
On June 05 2017 04:08 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2017 09:43 Prison Break wrote:
On June 04 2017 09:06 Holyflare wrote:
Lynch Tumblewood.


Tumblewood: "I get the sense that we have a lot of townies running around and accusing other townies
what if we lynched blazinghand
I don't have a real reason he's scum but the rest of the game makes a lot more sense if he is"

Holyflare, do you think Tumblewood is defending possible teammates here (aka someone who is getting pressure right now that he's trying to defuse)?

I think Tumblewood make a bad push, but his response after realizing it was joking makes sense, including the "fuck". Town doesn't want to be wrong and frustration can lead to moments where you'd say "fuck". If he was mafia would there be a reason for him to say that? Not what to think on the push on blazinghand. I've seen town play like Blazinghand but not scum, so leaning town on him. That doesn't mean his "lie" on grack means anything - hell, Blazinghand reminds me of myself as town a bit and how I used to think, like I would catch people lying and push it, but I learned that catching a lie doesn't equal those players actually being scum. Although they could, but this seems like a silly thing to lie about. Like there's no value to be gained for Grack to say this if he knows he's going to get called out for it for because wrong. So I'd say he probably just forgot? So I'd say Blazinghand is town and Grack I have yet to decide.

All things considered I see you vs tumblewood being possible town vs town. My townread on you is based on the fact I can at least understand your push on tumblewood (since I considered it as well), and your townread on me (I think scum could've used town paranoia of me being scum slipping through last game to push me, you defusing this immediately gives towncred), I also like how HF called BTDT's post bad. HF seems tryhard, I wonder if he as scum would be this tryhard esp after last game, so based on that I'm leaning his as town right now.


Btw this post is bad.

Assumption that Grack made that play as town and explain why it doesn't come from scum -> Then end up with no conclusion on Grack.

Also lots of over-explaining.


This post you quote is actually an amazingly good post that surmises why being caught out in a lie doesn't necessarily make someone scum and is in fact relating to Blazinghand's alignment and not Grack's like you purport it to.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
June 04 2017 19:14 GMT
#400
On June 05 2017 04:09 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2017 03:52 Holyflare wrote:
Vivax could be mafia

Why you think Vivax could be mafia?


he's defending scummy people, pushing an actual coin flip and going after posts that I don't think he should be going after, like that PB one
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