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ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
June 09 2017 22:42 GMT
#2381
On June 10 2017 07:39 Tumblewood wrote:
claiming because you think you're about to die is 100% useless if you are actually blue, because when you die you flip and everyone can see your role anyway, and you had nothing new to say about rbs. or if you don't die, congratulations you outed yourself and now mafia can keep you from ever shooting.


?
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
Prison Break
Profile Joined April 2017
326 Posts
June 09 2017 22:42 GMT
#2382
Also last game I kind of followed HF in the QT (esp with nightkills etc but also with how the game was going) and people townread me easier because it was my first game, so I don't have those 2 advantages anymore
Prison Break
Profile Joined April 2017
326 Posts
June 09 2017 22:42 GMT
#2383
Unless if you think me + HF is the team again lol
Prison Break
Profile Joined April 2017
326 Posts
June 09 2017 22:43 GMT
#2384
In before he infected me and now I'll roll mafia 10x
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
June 09 2017 22:43 GMT
#2385
On June 10 2017 07:42 Prison Break wrote:
Also last game I kind of followed HF in the QT (esp with nightkills etc but also with how the game was going) and people townread me easier because it was my first game, so I don't have those 2 advantages anymore


so if you had to ride or die with 1 of LS, conv, or tube who would you choose?
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
Prison Break
Profile Joined April 2017
326 Posts
June 09 2017 22:44 GMT
#2386
On June 10 2017 07:43 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2017 07:42 Prison Break wrote:
Also last game I kind of followed HF in the QT (esp with nightkills etc but also with how the game was going) and people townread me easier because it was my first game, so I don't have those 2 advantages anymore


so if you had to ride or die with 1 of LS, conv, or tube who would you choose?


Like i said I'd kill TW, then tubesock, esp if TW Flips red

So I'd kill tubesock of the 3

And have conversion the most townread right now
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
June 09 2017 22:45 GMT
#2387
alright fuck it bois.

ritoky
btdt
grackaroni
conversion
PB


we down to auto this shit? any objection?
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
June 09 2017 22:47 GMT
#2388
On June 10 2017 07:40 Prison Break wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2017 07:39 Tumblewood wrote:
claiming because you think you're about to die is 100% useless if you are actually blue, because when you die you flip and everyone can see your role anyway, and you had nothing new to say about rbs. or if you don't die, congratulations you outed yourself and now mafia can keep you from ever shooting.


Uh what?

So you're claiming mafia?

??? no. i'm referencing the post where hf says he was 100% certain he was going to die last night. it makes sense to claim if you think you're about to get lynched, but if you think you're about to be NKed it's useless.
good times for all
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
June 09 2017 22:47 GMT
#2389
On June 10 2017 07:47 Tumblewood wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2017 07:40 Prison Break wrote:
On June 10 2017 07:39 Tumblewood wrote:
claiming because you think you're about to die is 100% useless if you are actually blue, because when you die you flip and everyone can see your role anyway, and you had nothing new to say about rbs. or if you don't die, congratulations you outed yourself and now mafia can keep you from ever shooting.


Uh what?

So you're claiming mafia?

??? no. i'm referencing the post where hf says he was 100% certain he was going to die last night. it makes sense to claim if you think you're about to get lynched, but if you think you're about to be NKed it's useless.


do you think anyone on my auto list is mafia?
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
June 09 2017 22:49 GMT
#2390
On June 10 2017 07:45 ritoky wrote:
alright fuck it bois.

ritoky
btdt
grackaroni
conversion
PB


we down to auto this shit? any objection?

objection. it should go like this:
hf -> (rit if that doesn't work) -> pb -> (conv if that doesn't work) -> (ts if that doesn't work)
good times for all
Conversion
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
June 09 2017 22:51 GMT
#2391
On June 10 2017 07:49 Tumblewood wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2017 07:45 ritoky wrote:
alright fuck it bois.

ritoky
btdt
grackaroni
conversion
PB


we down to auto this shit? any objection?

objection. it should go like this:
hf -> (rit if that doesn't work) -> pb -> (conv if that doesn't work) -> (ts if that doesn't work)


possible mafia -> mislynch -> mislynch -> mislynch -> possible mafia

game losing order right there
Conversion
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
June 09 2017 22:52 GMT
#2392
On June 10 2017 07:45 ritoky wrote:
alright fuck it bois.

ritoky
btdt
grackaroni
conversion
PB


we down to auto this shit? any objection?


I'm okay with this tbh if you're cop. the person I don't like most is PB but I like him better than TW/HF/Tube tbh

I can't tell if LS is town or not with his rage play but we'll see
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
June 09 2017 22:54 GMT
#2393
On June 10 2017 07:51 Conversion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2017 07:49 Tumblewood wrote:
On June 10 2017 07:45 ritoky wrote:
alright fuck it bois.

ritoky
btdt
grackaroni
conversion
PB


we down to auto this shit? any objection?

objection. it should go like this:
hf -> (rit if that doesn't work) -> pb -> (conv if that doesn't work) -> (ts if that doesn't work)


possible mafia -> mislynch -> mislynch -> mislynch -> possible mafia

game losing order right there

the idea is you don't lynch the ones in parenthesis unless the guy in front of them flips town. and i disagree with the assertion that pb is a mislynch
good times for all
Conversion
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
June 09 2017 22:56 GMT
#2394
agree to disagree but I would never lynch PB over you ever
Conversion
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
June 09 2017 22:58 GMT
#2395
ritoky what are your thoughts on HF? I'd love to hear 'em
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
June 09 2017 23:05 GMT
#2396
i will repeat this because no one seemed to understand it:
On June 10 2017 07:32 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2017 07:30 Tubesock wrote:
On June 10 2017 07:24 Holyflare wrote:
On June 10 2017 07:22 Tumblewood wrote:
On June 10 2017 07:17 Holyflare wrote:
But there's really 0 reason for me to claim at that point. If I'm mafia with someone I would have had a giant lynch pool of almost the entire game. There's simply 0 point to ne claiming now.

that's clearly wrong?
pre-claim your lynch pool was grack, btdt, ts, pb, conv, but you should have a strong suspicion that there's a cop in the game with two checks reducing that pool by up to three. post-claim you have one, maybe 2 lynches set up for you among people who weren't even in consideration and your pool outside of that is still three people. as mafia you gained mislynches from that play.


I didn't think there was a cop because I'm not mafia

Don't want to get into hypothetical fairy land. I'm just simply town vig that didn't want to get into a claim war, wanted your bull shit to end if you didn't die and didn't want to lose us a mislynch.


Uhm how does that make sense?


I thought I was going to die last night almost 100%. I wanted to make sure I told people I didn't shoot so there couldn't be any confusion with rbs, wanted the other blue to claim today if there was one so I could figure it out.

I was spending all last night filtering and metaing and came to the conclusion 90% of the game was town and couldn't figure out who mafia was. Making it increasingly likely yoir claim was fake.

let's start with the assumption that HF is town and the goal of his claim was to eliminate any confusion with roleblocks and inform the other blue that they should claim.
if that is the case, then HF's claim didn't do shit. if he had died that night without claiming, the blue would still know what's up after seeing the flip, and everyone would have known that either i was RB'd, the person who died was RB'd, or no one was RB'd, because no one but me ever claimed to be roleblocked. so that part was useless too. that means that HF's claim was completely unnecessary for what he claimed he tried to do with it.
good times for all
Prison Break
Profile Joined April 2017
326 Posts
June 09 2017 23:06 GMT
#2397
On June 10 2017 07:47 Tumblewood wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2017 07:40 Prison Break wrote:
On June 10 2017 07:39 Tumblewood wrote:
claiming because you think you're about to die is 100% useless if you are actually blue, because when you die you flip and everyone can see your role anyway, and you had nothing new to say about rbs. or if you don't die, congratulations you outed yourself and now mafia can keep you from ever shooting.


Uh what?

So you're claiming mafia?

??? no. i'm referencing the post where hf says he was 100% certain he was going to die last night. it makes sense to claim if you think you're about to get lynched, but if you think you're about to be NKed it's useless.


You claimed blue while you was going to get lynched

And now you say blue never does that?

Aka you're mafia
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
June 09 2017 23:07 GMT
#2398
On June 10 2017 07:56 Conversion wrote:
agree to disagree but I would never lynch PB over you ever

well obviously i'm not putting myself on the auto list. you are free to insert me anywhere on the list you like, as long as it's at the back
good times for all
Prison Break
Profile Joined April 2017
326 Posts
June 09 2017 23:08 GMT
#2399
On June 10 2017 07:45 ritoky wrote:
alright fuck it bois.

ritoky
btdt
grackaroni
conversion
PB


we down to auto this shit? any objection?


I think your townlist is correct
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
June 09 2017 23:08 GMT
#2400
On June 10 2017 07:45 ritoky wrote:
alright fuck it bois.

ritoky
btdt
grackaroni
conversion
PB


we down to auto this shit? any objection?


auto's probably fine. My tinfoil is running that it's HF and LS. but it's really stupid. Well HF for reasons I just posted, and LS partly for POE but also HF's trolling scumming on LS. HF banning LS from using meta prevents LS from towning the entire town:

On June 05 2017 08:35 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2017 08:34 Grackaroni wrote:
On June 05 2017 08:30 Holyflare wrote:
where is LS solving the game?

I'm not an LS expert but doesn't he usually make more noncommittal posts as town? I remember reading one of his scum games where he couldn't help himself from pointing out all of the townies.

"X is town.

Y is town.

Z is town.

#IAmTheMetaKing."


I banned him from meta though.
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