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Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
June 09 2017 22:09 GMT
#2361
I think mafia RB'd TW to mindfuck town. Then when town starts thinking why is HF alive, they can kill TW and then say well they had to kill the confirmed Doc so that's why HF is alive and he'd be alive for another night and can set up for his last partner.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
June 09 2017 22:15 GMT
#2362
I really don't mind dying
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
June 09 2017 22:16 GMT
#2363
hf, i have a question for you:
(correct me if i'm wrong to assume your skepticism was related to your role)
why did being vig make you skeptical of my claim?
good times for all
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
June 09 2017 22:17 GMT
#2364
But there's really 0 reason for me to claim at that point. If I'm mafia with someone I would have had a giant lynch pool of almost the entire game. There's simply 0 point to ne claiming now.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
June 09 2017 22:19 GMT
#2365
On June 10 2017 07:16 Tumblewood wrote:
hf, i have a question for you:
(correct me if i'm wrong to assume your skepticism was related to your role)
why did being vig make you skeptical of my claim?


Because of several reasons:

You claimed to save yourself from lynch.

You claimed instead of answering the most simple bh meta question in all of existence.

I'm good at this game.

You dropped off the face of the earth after claiming despite saying you're going to try this game.

All of your tmi day 1 was off.

Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
June 09 2017 22:19 GMT
#2366
On June 10 2017 07:19 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2017 07:16 Tumblewood wrote:
hf, i have a question for you:
(correct me if i'm wrong to assume your skepticism was related to your role)
why did being vig make you skeptical of my claim?


Because of several reasons:

You claimed to save yourself from lynch.

You claimed instead of answering the most simple bh meta question in all of existence.

I'm good at this game.

You dropped off the face of the earth after claiming despite saying you're going to try this game.

All of your tmi day 1 was off.



The rest of the game saying you're not doc after n1 was because you didn't die and it was semi in jest but also a massive hedge because it's really fucking weird for you to not die.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
June 09 2017 22:21 GMT
#2367
Look at it from mafia perspective. They have a gf, probably think there's a cop.

Do they leave the blue alive forever blocking him knowing there's another blue going to wreck their shit? Or do they kill him?

I'm pretty sure they kill him.
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
June 09 2017 22:22 GMT
#2368
On June 10 2017 07:17 Holyflare wrote:
But there's really 0 reason for me to claim at that point. If I'm mafia with someone I would have had a giant lynch pool of almost the entire game. There's simply 0 point to ne claiming now.

that's clearly wrong?
pre-claim your lynch pool was grack, btdt, ts, pb, conv, but you should have a strong suspicion that there's a cop in the game with two checks reducing that pool by up to three. post-claim you have one, maybe 2 lynches set up for you among people who weren't even in consideration and your pool outside of that is still three people. as mafia you gained mislynches from that play.
good times for all
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
June 09 2017 22:23 GMT
#2369
On June 10 2017 07:17 Holyflare wrote:
But there's really 0 reason for me to claim at that point. If I'm mafia with someone I would have had a giant lynch pool of almost the entire game. There's simply 0 point to ne claiming now.


I disagree though. You must have a viable reason to why you're alive. Vivax wanted you dead. BH was hinting at suspicion. I think you killed BH before his suspicion could turn into a real threat. And he was the only really active town person so with him gone you have guaranteed control of town.

You can take advantage of TW's lack of interest this game and everyones willingness to lynch him. By proactively claiming, you look more legitimate. If you waited another day you risk a reactive claim which people will be less likely to believe.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
June 09 2017 22:23 GMT
#2370
Now let's look at it from your perspective if you're mafia:

Oh there's gonna be two blues in this game. I didn't get ccd as doctor so we're gonna have to rb who we kill in case of vet/vig/cop so I can claim rb.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
June 09 2017 22:24 GMT
#2371
On June 10 2017 07:22 Tumblewood wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2017 07:17 Holyflare wrote:
But there's really 0 reason for me to claim at that point. If I'm mafia with someone I would have had a giant lynch pool of almost the entire game. There's simply 0 point to ne claiming now.

that's clearly wrong?
pre-claim your lynch pool was grack, btdt, ts, pb, conv, but you should have a strong suspicion that there's a cop in the game with two checks reducing that pool by up to three. post-claim you have one, maybe 2 lynches set up for you among people who weren't even in consideration and your pool outside of that is still three people. as mafia you gained mislynches from that play.


I didn't think there was a cop because I'm not mafia

Don't want to get into hypothetical fairy land. I'm just simply town vig that didn't want to get into a claim war, wanted your bull shit to end if you didn't die and didn't want to lose us a mislynch.
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
June 09 2017 22:24 GMT
#2372
On June 10 2017 07:21 Holyflare wrote:
Look at it from mafia perspective. They have a gf, probably think there's a cop.

Do they leave the blue alive forever blocking him knowing there's another blue going to wreck their shit? Or do they kill him?

I'm pretty sure they kill him.

you can rb the doc and try to kill the cop with your shot, or even leave him alive to allow a 3-way claim war. honestly that question is just stupid, of course that's a fine play. plus then when the other blue claims your shit would be wrecked anyway but now you get to waste another mislynch. seemed to work out fine for you.
good times for all
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
June 09 2017 22:26 GMT
#2373
i kinda want to add PB to team auto, and just roll this shit.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
June 09 2017 22:30 GMT
#2374
On June 10 2017 07:24 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2017 07:22 Tumblewood wrote:
On June 10 2017 07:17 Holyflare wrote:
But there's really 0 reason for me to claim at that point. If I'm mafia with someone I would have had a giant lynch pool of almost the entire game. There's simply 0 point to ne claiming now.

that's clearly wrong?
pre-claim your lynch pool was grack, btdt, ts, pb, conv, but you should have a strong suspicion that there's a cop in the game with two checks reducing that pool by up to three. post-claim you have one, maybe 2 lynches set up for you among people who weren't even in consideration and your pool outside of that is still three people. as mafia you gained mislynches from that play.


I didn't think there was a cop because I'm not mafia

Don't want to get into hypothetical fairy land. I'm just simply town vig that didn't want to get into a claim war, wanted your bull shit to end if you didn't die and didn't want to lose us a mislynch.


Uhm how does that make sense?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
June 09 2017 22:32 GMT
#2375
On June 10 2017 07:30 Tubesock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2017 07:24 Holyflare wrote:
On June 10 2017 07:22 Tumblewood wrote:
On June 10 2017 07:17 Holyflare wrote:
But there's really 0 reason for me to claim at that point. If I'm mafia with someone I would have had a giant lynch pool of almost the entire game. There's simply 0 point to ne claiming now.

that's clearly wrong?
pre-claim your lynch pool was grack, btdt, ts, pb, conv, but you should have a strong suspicion that there's a cop in the game with two checks reducing that pool by up to three. post-claim you have one, maybe 2 lynches set up for you among people who weren't even in consideration and your pool outside of that is still three people. as mafia you gained mislynches from that play.


I didn't think there was a cop because I'm not mafia

Don't want to get into hypothetical fairy land. I'm just simply town vig that didn't want to get into a claim war, wanted your bull shit to end if you didn't die and didn't want to lose us a mislynch.


Uhm how does that make sense?


I thought I was going to die last night almost 100%. I wanted to make sure I told people I didn't shoot so there couldn't be any confusion with rbs, wanted the other blue to claim today if there was one so I could figure it out.

I was spending all last night filtering and metaing and came to the conclusion 90% of the game was town and couldn't figure out who mafia was. Making it increasingly likely yoir claim was fake.
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
June 09 2017 22:32 GMT
#2376
the only things holding me back are a couple posts like this one:

On June 10 2017 06:01 Prison Break wrote:
LS how certain are you that I'm town?


like i don't know what this accomplishes or what the point of this is....it gives me weird vibes like he is trying to induce LS to scum read him for some reason?

plus i have never played with him and he seemed good at mafia from obs last game so i am slightly wary.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
June 09 2017 22:37 GMT
#2377
On June 10 2017 07:32 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2017 07:30 Tubesock wrote:
On June 10 2017 07:24 Holyflare wrote:
On June 10 2017 07:22 Tumblewood wrote:
On June 10 2017 07:17 Holyflare wrote:
But there's really 0 reason for me to claim at that point. If I'm mafia with someone I would have had a giant lynch pool of almost the entire game. There's simply 0 point to ne claiming now.

that's clearly wrong?
pre-claim your lynch pool was grack, btdt, ts, pb, conv, but you should have a strong suspicion that there's a cop in the game with two checks reducing that pool by up to three. post-claim you have one, maybe 2 lynches set up for you among people who weren't even in consideration and your pool outside of that is still three people. as mafia you gained mislynches from that play.


I didn't think there was a cop because I'm not mafia

Don't want to get into hypothetical fairy land. I'm just simply town vig that didn't want to get into a claim war, wanted your bull shit to end if you didn't die and didn't want to lose us a mislynch.


Uhm how does that make sense?


I thought I was going to die last night almost 100%. I wanted to make sure I told people I didn't shoot so there couldn't be any confusion with rbs, wanted the other blue to claim today if there was one so I could figure it out.

I was spending all last night filtering and metaing and came to the conclusion 90% of the game was town and couldn't figure out who mafia was. Making it increasingly likely yoir claim was fake.

the reason you claimed was so you could tell people you didn't shoot? so there couldn't be any confusion with rbs? even though no one but me ever claimed to be roleblocked at any point?
and why are you so suspicious of an unCCed blue who has not pushed any sort of mafia agenda? unCCed claim is 1000x stronger than filtering and metaing is in a PoE
good times for all
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
June 09 2017 22:39 GMT
#2378
claiming because you think you're about to die is 100% useless if you are actually blue, because when you die you flip and everyone can see your role anyway, and you had nothing new to say about rbs. or if you don't die, congratulations you outed yourself and now mafia can keep you from ever shooting.
good times for all
Prison Break
Profile Joined April 2017
326 Posts
June 09 2017 22:39 GMT
#2379
On June 10 2017 07:32 ritoky wrote:
the only things holding me back are a couple posts like this one:

Show nested quote +
On June 10 2017 06:01 Prison Break wrote:
LS how certain are you that I'm town?


like i don't know what this accomplishes or what the point of this is....it gives me weird vibes like he is trying to induce LS to scum read him for some reason?

plus i have never played with him and he seemed good at mafia from obs last game so i am slightly wary.


I want to know because I was / am semi-paranoid LS is pocketing me with "don't worry we'll win the game" etc.

But given that LS is trying to turn the game into auto and tubesock is coming in here the way he does, I'm all for killing TW and tubesock now
Prison Break
Profile Joined April 2017
326 Posts
June 09 2017 22:40 GMT
#2380
On June 10 2017 07:39 Tumblewood wrote:
claiming because you think you're about to die is 100% useless if you are actually blue, because when you die you flip and everyone can see your role anyway, and you had nothing new to say about rbs. or if you don't die, congratulations you outed yourself and now mafia can keep you from ever shooting.


Uh what?

So you're claiming mafia?
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