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Prison Break
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Prison Break
326 Posts
On June 10 2017 08:08 Tubesock wrote: auto's probably fine. My tinfoil is running that it's HF and LS. but it's really stupid. Well HF for reasons I just posted, and LS partly for POE but also HF's trolling scumming on LS. HF banning LS from using meta prevents LS from towning the entire town: Ok so HF pushing LS the entire game and LS getting mad is stages? Or is LS legit mad HF is bussing him? | ||
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Tumblewood
United States3709 Posts
On June 10 2017 08:06 Prison Break wrote: You claimed blue while you was going to get lynched And now you say blue never does that? Aka you're mafia no, you are completely misreading everything i said. read the post i just made that clarifies what i say in this post. i repeat: if you claim [non-cop] blue like HF did because you think you're about to get NKed, it's useless, but if you claim blue because you think you're about to be lynched, like I did, it makes sense. honestly, why would you ever interpret someone's post as them claiming mafia? | ||
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Tubesock
United States2726 Posts
On June 10 2017 08:06 Prison Break wrote: You claimed blue while you was going to get lynched And now you say blue never does that? Aka you're mafia He's saying that if you're blue and you think you are going to be Night Killed then there isn't much reason to claim at night. You'll flip anyway (and even more likely to draw fire) | ||
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Tubesock
United States2726 Posts
On June 10 2017 08:10 Prison Break wrote: Ok so HF pushing LS the entire game and LS getting mad is stages? Or is LS legit mad HF is bussing him? I'm pretty biased right now, but yeah could be fake pushing LS (he did say he was trolling him) and I definitely see LS getting pissed HF is busing him. And LS can fake the rage too, he did it in one of his scum games a bit ago. Was towned because he used CAPSLOCK once. But I don't think HF is really the type to bus both partners d1. So, I'm trying to read and think about his conviction of really wanting to lynch LS or just motivating him to post more and get townread. | ||
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30775 Posts
Just 1000% sheep my good case on tw after  It's the only play tube/tw have left. | ||
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Prison Break
326 Posts
On June 10 2017 08:11 Tubesock wrote: He's saying that if you're blue and you think you are going to be Night Killed then there isn't much reason to claim at night. You'll flip anyway (and even more likely to draw fire) He protected TW If HF flips vig, people will think HF got rb'd so TW was lying By saying he didn't fire, TW could still be rb'd So despite HF thinking TW is mafia now, this is extremely townie to do | ||
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Prison Break
326 Posts
On June 10 2017 08:14 Tubesock wrote: I'm pretty biased right now, but yeah could be fake pushing LS (he did say he was trolling him) and I definitely see LS getting pissed HF is busing him. And LS can fake the rage too, he did it in one of his scum games a bit ago. Was towned because he used CAPSLOCK once. But I don't think HF is really the type to bus both partners d1. So, I'm trying to read and think about his conviction of really wanting to lynch LS or just motivating him to post more and get townread. Agree, HF is more the type to get bussed, lol | ||
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Prison Break
326 Posts
On June 10 2017 08:10 Tumblewood wrote: no, you are completely misreading everything i said. read the post i just made that clarifies what i say in this post. i repeat: if you claim [non-cop] blue like HF did because you think you're about to get NKed, it's useless, but if you claim blue because you think you're about to be lynched, like I did, it makes sense. honestly, why would you ever interpret someone's post as them claiming mafia? Because I was surprised at you saying that? I understand now but explained in my other post why HF's story makes sense | ||
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Tumblewood
United States3709 Posts
On June 10 2017 08:19 Prison Break wrote: He protected TW If HF flips vig, people will think HF got rb'd so TW was lying By saying he didn't fire, TW could still be rb'd So despite HF thinking TW is mafia now, this is extremely townie to do please. he already didn't shoot or claim RB N1. it is really not crazy to think that the same thing would happen again. you are either extremely town-tunneled on him or literally his scum partner | ||
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Prison Break
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30775 Posts
On June 10 2017 08:14 Tubesock wrote: I'm pretty biased right now, but yeah could be fake pushing LS (he did say he was trolling him) and I definitely see LS getting pissed HF is busing him. And LS can fake the rage too, he did it in one of his scum games a bit ago. Was towned because he used CAPSLOCK once. But I don't think HF is really the type to bus both partners d1. So, I'm trying to read and think about his conviction of really wanting to lynch LS or just motivating him to post more and get townread. Definitely done that before. | ||
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30775 Posts
On June 10 2017 08:19 Prison Break wrote: He protected TW If HF flips vig, people will think HF got rb'd so TW was lying By saying he didn't fire, TW could still be rb'd So despite HF thinking TW is mafia now, this is extremely townie to do The above. | ||
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Tumblewood
United States3709 Posts
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Tumblewood
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advantages of claiming: - people wouldn't assume he was RB'd and I was lying about that, which is only relevant if people actually assume that AND i'm blue. keep in mind i wouldn't even have to roleblock HF to be lying about being roleblocked disadvantages of claiming: - effectively gives up any chance of shooting someone - if i'm scum, forces the other blue to claim unnecessarily early, denying a potential cop check - if i'm blue, allows scum to make a play and potentially lynch both of us OR if HF is mafia: advantages of claiming: - lynches one, potentially two blues - forces the other blue to out themselves early disadvantages of claiming: - dies earlier than he might have otherwise pick one | ||
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Prison Break
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Tumblewood
United States3709 Posts
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Tumblewood
United States3709 Posts
if HF is town: advantages of claiming: *crickets* disadvantages of claiming: - effectively gives up any chance of shooting someone - if i'm scum, forces the other blue to claim unnecessarily early, denying a potential cop check - if i'm blue, allows scum to make a play and potentially lynch both of us OR if HF is mafia: advantages of claiming: - lynches one, potentially two blues - forces the other blue to out themselves early disadvantages of claiming: - dies earlier than he might have otherwise pick one | ||
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Tumblewood
United States3709 Posts
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30775 Posts
On June 10 2017 08:35 Tumblewood wrote: ok, another glaring question mark in your claim: why were you so suspicious of me, with no CC, that you based your whole strategy around making sure i died in case i was scum? I definitely answered this. Everything about your claim was bull shit so I'm immediately skeptical of you being blue in the first place. Then onegu who is a low volume count poster dies instead of you even if he killed fidei. I'm increasingly more and more suspicious but still realise you could be town so hedging massively but still wary. Then I try and look at who to shoot n2 because i think I'm going to die and even if we lose a mislynch i want to shoot. I spend a good few hours metaing ls and grack etc to determine who to shoot but I thought they all looked towny. Conv posting good sense at night, looked at btdt meta and he looked different. Pb tone different. Tube lynched fidei and said things I thought i agreed with. Ritoky i thought looked towny since d1. So I had nobody to shoot so I sent in another shot of no kill because it wasn't worth shooting people i weren't sure about. I thought I was going to die and to avoid any confusion about rbs and shots I wanted to claim. Also because I thought every remaining player had a chance to be town it threw more and more paranoia to your claim and rbs being bs. So today I wanted to settle it once and for all too. I wanted a claim war. And here we are, mission successful. I think pb made an excellent point earlier. You've gone full bs suspicion throwing and no game solving. Yoi saved me last night thinking I'm most likely to die but the instant i claimed i was mafia to you. It didn't make sense and it doesn't make sense. Ypu weren't even hesitant towards ritoky's claim despite the fact that there were inconsistencies (that I checked) in his scum reads to who he checked. I'm pretty sure you're mafia. | ||
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