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Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22202 Posts
May 18 2017 17:12 GMT
#1901
On May 19 2017 02:07 sicklucker wrote:
lets just say if im mafia with tumble +1 i would never let those morons kill df who town reads me over others


Is HF scum or town?
Prison Break
Profile Joined April 2017
326 Posts
May 18 2017 17:12 GMT
#1902
On May 19 2017 02:07 sicklucker wrote:
lets just say if im mafia with tumble +1 i would never let those morons kill df who town reads me over others


WIFOM

self-meta

nice argument
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22202 Posts
May 18 2017 17:14 GMT
#1903
On May 19 2017 01:53 Prison Break wrote:
I've nailed it down to this

town: LS, Palmar, HF

scum: Grack or Vivax
scum: sicklurker

but vivax pushed sicklurker, so grack is more likely. vivax did have a weird post where he'd question why people would lynch sicklurker though, which can be interpreted as softdefending. I really don't like vivax "if my townread on TW is anything like my townread on PB then he must be mafia", that sounded insincere and it's complete bullshit. what's holding me back is that vivax pushes sicklurker now

as for grackeroni, he mentioned my post seemed scummy (where I went from scumreading HF to townreading him based on his posting), then when called out on it he basically retracted it pretty fast. seemed like he was trying to see if others would catch on, and when they didn't he kind of dropped it. Very scummy. If HF is town, and I went from scumreading to townreading him, then I can imagine scum being frustrated by that because they obviously want town to kill other town, so I can see this play having a scum motive. Don't see how it makes sense from town though

I think 2 scum is between these 3, LS palmar have been townie all game. no way HF is scum and being that paranoid yesterday, that seemed very real and townlike. so yeah I want to lynch between these 3, and I think both scum are between them


My argument was that my scumread on skynx was bad, so my TR on you must be bad, too. And it was absolutely insincere I was just literally trying to pick a fight in the thread or why do you think I randomly started insulting SL?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22202 Posts
May 18 2017 17:15 GMT
#1904
Who reacted very poorly I might add
Prison Break
Profile Joined April 2017
326 Posts
May 18 2017 17:16 GMT
#1905
So is your insult on SL random, or do you think he's scum?

We need to get to a lynch and there's no obvious lynch candidate, so I think SL should be looked into today, as I've been advocating the last 2 days as well.
Prison Break
Profile Joined April 2017
326 Posts
May 18 2017 17:17 GMT
#1906
currently leaning SL + grack as the team
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
May 18 2017 17:23 GMT
#1907
Grack iirc you and some others claimed Vivax mafia post D1 is so identifiable, is he town here?
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
May 18 2017 17:32 GMT
#1908
Lol sl calling me mafia and then hard retraction into calling me town.

Hedging or mafia? Sheeps me all game, hasn't called me out for anything. Honestly i thought he was the cop d2 for sheeping me on fuba.

Now it's just mafia-y.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9856 Posts
May 18 2017 17:35 GMT
#1909
On May 19 2017 02:23 Skynx wrote:
Grack iirc you and some others claimed Vivax mafia post D1 is so identifiable, is he town here?

According to the mafia database he's been lynched or endgamed 17/18 times as mafia. His doesn't usually have the motivation to match his town enthusiasm after the first day or two.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9856 Posts
May 18 2017 17:37 GMT
#1910
Also, the kills are pretty unlikely kills for me. Both Rayn/DF were chill with me and I killed Fuba during the lynch instead of Palmar. All 3 of Palmar/HF/Vivax would have been better for me since they have all been on my case this game.
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
May 18 2017 17:48 GMT
#1911
On May 19 2017 02:10 Prison Break wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2017 01:59 sicklucker wrote:
On May 18 2017 14:34 Prison Break wrote:
On May 18 2017 12:41 Grackaroni wrote:
On May 18 2017 11:52 Prison Break wrote:
On May 18 2017 10:51 Grackaroni wrote:
On May 18 2017 08:37 Prison Break wrote:
if I'm wrong though I'm going to hate myself ... ugh.... I don't like changing reads but I have a bad habbit of tunneling, shouldn't be limiting myself just because I could be wrong, if he's scum and I'm wrong then that sucks, but I am confident enough in my townread to not want to lynch him today

This post seems scummy to me.


Why, you think his play makes sense as scum? I had him as scum prior, but after his recent play I've changed my mind. What's scummy about changing your mind according to new evidence? The tunneling thing is something people often accuse me of, since I'm new here I guess that's not common knowledge yet.

HF can be pretty sneaky.

But it seems kind of scummy to me because there's too much anguish over dropping a scum read, like you're too worried that we're going to call you out for switching your read on HF.

I think it's the "...ugh..." in the middle of the sentence that bothers me. It just feels unnatural to me.


I was pretty confident he was scum earlier on. His play is messing with my head. I don't care what others think, I care about being right. I think I'm still right on sicklurker


see this is my problem with you. do you want to be right ? or do you want to find mafia. because they are not mutually exlusive. I am not mafia and you have been wrong all game. So are you chasing losses here? or just scum


wtf?

I want to lynch scum. In order to lynch scum, I must be right on who I lynch. You're completely taking these words out of the context. The context in which I said this was when I said I'd hate myself if HF was scum, to which I got called out (by your possible scummate?) that I was supposedly worried about how I'd look or some BS like that. To which I explained to him, that I'm worried about being right. So within this context, the meanig is obviously that I only want to lynch people that are scum

You saying I've been wrong this entire game is a complete misrep. I've been right on multiple things and I'm tunneling you because you're scum. So you're using your alignment as an argument to say I'm wrong - while for all we know, you could be lying about it. So it's not a valid argument. What is a valid argument, though, is that you're outright misleading people with what you're saying and that you made weird flip flops and what not.


you said you want to be right. as in you dont want to change your scum read on me because that would make you wrong. its pretty simple
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
May 18 2017 17:48 GMT
#1912
but a town can do that its w/e not worth talking about
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
May 18 2017 17:50 GMT
#1913
On May 19 2017 02:12 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2017 02:07 sicklucker wrote:
lets just say if im mafia with tumble +1 i would never let those morons kill df who town reads me over others


Is HF scum or town?


I always thought if palmar was town he was scum. He played a good game but hes only lynched townies. but he did bring up tumbles name d1 as well if I recall. his lack of nk can be explained by a doctor. its still open for discussion I think I need to read tumbles filter when I got a minute
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
May 18 2017 17:52 GMT
#1914
On May 19 2017 02:17 Prison Break wrote:
currently leaning SL + grack as the team


how is that ever a team honestly. look where my day 1 vote was
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
May 18 2017 17:52 GMT
#1915
im a dick but I wouldnt afk vote my best partner day 1
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
May 18 2017 17:55 GMT
#1916
its grack + 1 of in a list of most likely

LS
Hf
Pb


palmar can be thrown at the top of that list based on mechanics.

Hell im not even that sold on grack being confirmed mafia but im pretty sure its not out of that list which I think is just not including vivax
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
May 18 2017 17:57 GMT
#1917
anyway this game is more about mechanics right now. will the mafia kill one of palmar or skynx? or will they be pussies and go after an unconfirmed not risking the 50/50 save. fun times the doctor is a true hero
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
May 18 2017 17:58 GMT
#1918
fuck it im not trying anymore untill after tonight so much shit can go down. town could get a save and a cop check if mafia gambles.. waste of time
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
May 18 2017 17:58 GMT
#1919
rip vivax, the last bastion of sense
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9856 Posts
May 18 2017 18:01 GMT
#1920
On May 19 2017 01:53 Prison Break wrote:
I've nailed it down to this

town: LS, Palmar, HF

scum: Grack or Vivax
scum: sicklurker

but vivax pushed sicklurker, so grack is more likely. vivax did have a weird post where he'd question why people would lynch sicklurker though, which can be interpreted as softdefending. I really don't like vivax "if my townread on TW is anything like my townread on PB then he must be mafia", that sounded insincere and it's complete bullshit. what's holding me back is that vivax pushes sicklurker now

as for grackeroni, he mentioned my post seemed scummy (where I went from scumreading HF to townreading him based on his posting), then when called out on it he basically retracted it pretty fast. seemed like he was trying to see if others would catch on, and when they didn't he kind of dropped it. Very scummy. If HF is town, and I went from scumreading to townreading him, then I can imagine scum being frustrated by that because they obviously want town to kill other town, so I can see this play having a scum motive. Don't see how it makes sense from town though

I think 2 scum is between these 3, LS palmar have been townie all game. no way HF is scum and being that paranoid yesterday, that seemed very real and townlike. so yeah I want to lynch between these 3, and I think both scum are between them

This is completely false.
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