It changes the question because pb isn't saying sl looks townier. But whatever floats your boat.

Palmar not even trying to figure me out at this point. Waiting to shit fight with me tomorrow i presume.

Vivax

22380 Posts

May 18 2017 11:45 GMT

#1864

HF I got a post with the suggested lynch order ready but can I know what you suggest before I hit send?

Vivax

22380 Posts

May 18 2017 11:48 GMT

#1865

On May 18 2017 20:45 Holyflare wrote:

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Oh okay. I'm probably an idiot anyway for suspecting PBon a reread so many of his posts scream town I'm just getting mindfucked by the usual paranoia.

Holyflare

United Kingdom30775 Posts

May 18 2017 11:50 GMT

#1866

My lynch order?

Grack
Palmar (if alive another cycle after)
LS (can really be anywhere above)
SL
You
Pb

My towny list in reverse basically.

Vivax

22380 Posts

May 18 2017 11:51 GMT

#1867

Reminder that LS and Grack are like confirmed town from TWs filter, his reads on them just never align with the rest of the thread and he keeps trying to get cred with his strong townreads on them that come out of nowhere.

On May 15 2017 04:31 Tumblewood wrote:
hf and sl are probable town. palmar and fuba are probable scum. skynx and vivax are somewhere in between. and i am absolutely not ok with lynching outside of those 6 names. not really ok with going after hf or sl but clearly that's not stopping anyone

Going by this I'd lynch Palmar tomorrow (by now both NKs basically force us to) ,then SL, then HF if SL wasn't scum. ggs

Holyflare

United Kingdom30775 Posts

May 18 2017 11:53 GMT

#1868

Pb is a loose cannon, a wild stallion, a lone wolf, a god among men hunting for blood unaffected by the way we mere mortals act or perceive regulated cycles. He posts what he wants when he wants.

If he wants to vote at night with no voting mechanic then you better believe he will do it. What a hunk.

Holyflare

United Kingdom30775 Posts

May 18 2017 11:54 GMT

#1869

I don't think they are at all. His grack town case is shit.

Holyflare

United Kingdom30775 Posts

May 18 2017 11:55 GMT

#1870

I mean i guess jumping all over making it probably does look good for grack

Holyflare

United Kingdom30775 Posts

May 18 2017 11:55 GMT

#1871

I've been burnt by this before though.

Vivax

22380 Posts

May 18 2017 12:02 GMT

#1872

What I detest about Palmar + HF theory is that they both changed their read on fuba d2 of their own accord whereas Grack and SL just stayed the course on fuba not giving a shit about his newer posts us three saw some townieness in.

Alone for this I might sheep HF on Grack tomorrow, and only then start lynching into HF and Palmar.

Palmar

Iceland22633 Posts

May 18 2017 13:42 GMT

#1873

On May 18 2017 20:45 Holyflare wrote:

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maybe you should presume less.

Holyflare

United Kingdom30775 Posts

May 18 2017 13:44 GMT

#1874

I presume what I want.

Palmar

Iceland22633 Posts

May 18 2017 13:49 GMT

#1875

But no, I'm ok. I mentally checked out this past cycle and I don't think I'm doing much tonight.

I think there's definitely some intrigue to be caught this game, but I'm not going to bother trying to figure it out right now. It is somewhat interesting that there's still massive pressure in the thread on lynching me despite having a green check. I am however not really concerned about that at the moment.

I feel like defending myself beyond this point is going to be useless. People who still, with a green check and probably the towniest game I've played in the past 2 years, want to lynch me, are beyond redemption anyway, hopelessly stuck in a pit of ignorance. I can communicate with normal human beings, but if the desire to be wrong is strong enough that you will convince yourself that a mechanical check must be wrong, there isn't much I can do.

Skynx's check on me was actually a terrible check. Sometimes I play around in games (see my last game) and it can be tough to figure out what my alignment is. But this game, you have to be especially stubborn to not just realize that on pure content I am town.

So with that said, I am going to rather focus on the remaining two mafia, than myself.

Vivax

22380 Posts

May 18 2017 13:56 GMT

#1876

rip grack after that post

Palmar

Iceland22633 Posts

May 18 2017 13:59 GMT

#1877

As for the current gamestate, and some very short reservations:

Grack: the fact that TW was willing to townread him so hard that he offered to build a towncase (I can't remember if he actually did, but I remember asking him for one) throws a wrench in that read of mine. Grack has still played a very underwhelming game if he's town and he's not really helping figure anything out, but still... It's making me pause.

sicklucker: I have a gut feeling he's town. There's literally no justification for it, I just think he is. I might be completely and utterly wrong. He's not done anything and when he's in the thread his posts are completely worthless... idk... I guess I'm gonna wait until tomorrow to read him in more detail.

Vivax: Still hedging on town. Still have the same nagging suspicions, but still gonna ignore them based purely on effort and content. I dislike how he intends to follow up on the scumlynch but whatever.

HF: The big question to me. I should probably be fairly sure he's mafia but I'm just not. The way he responded to my taunting and to skynx's reveal actually sounded rather townie. I also vaguely recall him making some case or push on TW at some point, but it may be me misremembering. I'm going to go back and see if, how and why that happened.

LS: Super underwhelming this game. I actually think it's not unlikely he's mafia. If you gave me a gun and told me to shoot someone I'd shoot, HF, but only because killing him would be fun. If I was shooting for the most likely to flip mafia I think I'd shoot LS.

PB: I've written him off as town throughout the game, because he sounds like one. Depending on what happens tomorrow he's a good candidate to just review and see if I wrote it off too quickly. He's a low content poster, but whenever he does post it feels like he has a townie mindset.

Skynx: 100% cop, confirmed.

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So in summary, I would probably kill LS right now. But I have very little faith in that being the correct call. It's mostly based on how I feel about the game at the moment. He's a guy that generally isn't afraid to post but he has somehow avoided almost all the big shitfights this game, just like TW did, really.

So yeah.... more tomorrow, maybe today.

Palmar

Iceland22633 Posts

May 18 2017 14:04 GMT

#1878

The good news is that 1 person might die tonight, and another person is going to claim doctor. Skynx will not die because mafia can't risk shooting him. The doctor should be playing mindgames I guess (but it'd suck super hard to lose skynx tonight because mafia went big and won).

so a very winnable gamestate of 5v2 after this night puts us in non-lylo. The doctor should probably claim tomorrow, because in lylo mafia can claim doctor safely (best case for them they win the cc battle and the game, worst case they lose and shoot the doctor the next night and remain in lylo)

claiming before lylo puts mafia in a very difficult situation, they can win the cc battle and still not win the game. So it's something to think about, claiming tomorrow.