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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43269 Posts
March 20 2017 14:21 GMT
#1481
Especially look at this page and see the difference of pushing a lynch and "pushing a lynch":
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/496215-mini-mafia-the-kinda-vanilla-experience?user=Xatalos&page=12
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Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 20 2017 14:22 GMT
#1482
On March 20 2017 23:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Bulletpoints why Xatalos is mafia:

  • The whole claim thing as just explained
  • Very very terrible reasoned read on Tumblewood (aka easy lynch)
  • Not pushing me over Malongo (when he said himself he thought we are BOTH (with Tumble) more likely to be mafia than Malongo is) -- And no, sitting on his scumread for 47h 45mins and then making a half-arsed attempt is not "pushing a lynch on rayn" while i can perfectly underrstand why he tries it there -- i will never have a chance to respond (i can show you examples on when town!Xatalos thinks i am mafia, how he pushes the lynch if you don't believe me)
  • See above, how strong do you think his scumread on me was when on D2 i claim and he cannot be even arsed to think there is a possibility of me being town?
  • Go read his filter and see what he "pushes". He is not even wanting to lynch scum, there are no actual case, no nothing. He is just trying to find counter-wagons for everything?!?!?!? If someone is scum why do you need a counter-wagon? Why is just looking for counter-wagons?
  • Mrrgrlgrlgllllll !!!!!!!!!


It's easy. My read on you wasn't very strong at EOD D1. It was much stronger at N1 end / D2 start. Then it weakened again when you claimed. Case solved.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 20 2017 14:22 GMT
#1483
On March 20 2017 23:20 Calix wrote:
What the fuck did I just read?


Tell me when you figure it out..
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
AMG
Profile Joined March 2013
Australia298 Posts
March 20 2017 14:22 GMT
#1484
On March 20 2017 23:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Bulletpoints why Xatalos is mafia:

  • The whole claim thing as just explained
  • Very very terrible reasoned read on Tumblewood (aka easy lynch)
  • Not pushing me over Malongo (when he said himself he thought we are BOTH (with Tumble) more likely to be mafia than Malongo is) -- And no, sitting on his scumread for 47h 45mins and then making a half-arsed attempt is not "pushing a lynch on rayn" while i can perfectly underrstand why he tries it there -- i will never have a chance to respond (i can show you examples on when town!Xatalos thinks i am mafia, how he pushes the lynch if you don't believe me)
  • See above, how strong do you think his scumread on me was when on D2 i claim and he cannot be even arsed to think there is a possibility of me being town?
  • Go read his filter and see what he "pushes". He is not even wanting to lynch scum, there are no actual case, no nothing. He is just trying to find counter-wagons for everything?!?!?!? If someone is scum why do you need a counter-wagon? Why is just looking for counter-wagons?
  • Mrrgrlgrlgllllll !!!!!!!!!


Thankyou, Muchly.


In your reality, how likely is Damdred on his team? I really do not like Damdreds day 1 actions, specifically his voting and the 'cases' on his votes.

Ill mull over both of them being scum while I sleep. Back in 9 hours.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
March 20 2017 14:24 GMT
#1485
On March 20 2017 23:20 Calix wrote:
What the fuck did I just read?

bestest post i ever made.
working on derdmad, the ethereal oak got that started before I saw the current ongoings, so will finish that before reading xata solatax, the rolling thunder
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
March 20 2017 14:25 GMT
#1486
On March 20 2017 23:24 disformation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2017 23:20 Calix wrote:
What the fuck did I just read?

bestest post i ever made.
working on derdmad, the ethereal oak got that started before I saw the current ongoings, so will finish that before reading xata solatax, the rolling thunder


The only question it poses is, disformation, why are you such a dork?

Also my internet is shit because I'm in the middle of a massive thunderstorm.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
March 20 2017 14:25 GMT
#1487
+ Show Spoiler +

there will be a xilas, wicked witch of the east but i haven't reread that filter book yet, so I am not 100% sure atm how the story will go.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43269 Posts
March 20 2017 14:26 GMT
#1488
On March 20 2017 23:22 AMG wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2017 23:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Bulletpoints why Xatalos is mafia:

  • The whole claim thing as just explained
  • Very very terrible reasoned read on Tumblewood (aka easy lynch)
  • Not pushing me over Malongo (when he said himself he thought we are BOTH (with Tumble) more likely to be mafia than Malongo is) -- And no, sitting on his scumread for 47h 45mins and then making a half-arsed attempt is not "pushing a lynch on rayn" while i can perfectly underrstand why he tries it there -- i will never have a chance to respond (i can show you examples on when town!Xatalos thinks i am mafia, how he pushes the lynch if you don't believe me)
  • See above, how strong do you think his scumread on me was when on D2 i claim and he cannot be even arsed to think there is a possibility of me being town?
  • Go read his filter and see what he "pushes". He is not even wanting to lynch scum, there are no actual case, no nothing. He is just trying to find counter-wagons for everything?!?!?!? If someone is scum why do you need a counter-wagon? Why is just looking for counter-wagons?
  • Mrrgrlgrlgllllll !!!!!!!!!


Thankyou, Muchly.


In your reality, how likely is Damdred on his team? I really do not like Damdreds day 1 actions, specifically his voting and the 'cases' on his votes.

Ill mull over both of them being scum while I sleep. Back in 9 hours.

I am not sure. I have to reread Damdred since i have extremely mixed feelings about him. I don't see why they couldn't be scum together.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43269 Posts
March 20 2017 14:27 GMT
#1489
Can you elaborate further on what in his actions you don't like?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43269 Posts
March 20 2017 14:28 GMT
#1490
I mean like what about them you don't like.
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Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 20 2017 14:29 GMT
#1491
On March 20 2017 23:24 disformation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2017 23:20 Calix wrote:
What the fuck did I just read?

bestest post i ever made.
working on derdmad, the ethereal oak got that started before I saw the current ongoings, so will finish that before reading xata solatax, the rolling thunder


ROFL

Thanks for the name...?
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 20 2017 14:36 GMT
#1492
Rayn, when I really push a case, I'm very confident it's scum -and then I'm mostly right. I won't go full YOLO if I'm unsure.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
AMG
Profile Joined March 2013
Australia298 Posts
March 20 2017 14:38 GMT
#1493
On March 20 2017 23:28 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I mean like what about them you don't like.


He parks his vote on mal for being "suspect". Never elaborated on what that even meant. Does not even attempt to engage Mal in any questioning or conversation. Makes a case on why Eden might be better lynch, vote stays on mal, says he does not feel comfortable being on the same wagon as DR, yet never moved his vote off. Talks about how little resistance there is to mals lunch, does not get off it.
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
March 20 2017 14:44 GMT
#1494
On March 20 2017 23:38 AMG wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2017 23:28 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I mean like what about them you don't like.


He parks his vote on mal for being "suspect". Never elaborated on what that even meant. Does not even attempt to engage Mal in any questioning or conversation. Makes a case on why Eden might be better lynch, vote stays on mal, says he does not feel comfortable being on the same wagon as DR, yet never moved his vote off. Talks about how little resistance there is to mals lunch, does not get off it.


Let's not kill this guy today.

He is providing fresh points that do not suck and do not look like he's painting people as scum. This is good for town discussion.

Even if he is mafia, his current actions are pro-town and he should be kept around for that reason.
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 20 2017 14:46 GMT
#1495
Agreed that AMG has seemed OK.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 20 2017 14:47 GMT
#1496
Disfo, I'd appreciate if you put your stuff in human words. Can't really evaluate that'.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
March 20 2017 14:49 GMT
#1497
On March 20 2017 23:38 AMG wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2017 23:28 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I mean like what about them you don't like.


He parks his vote on mal for being "suspect". Never elaborated on what that even meant. Does not even attempt to engage Mal in any questioning or conversation. Makes a case on why Eden might be better lynch, vote stays on mal, says he does not feel comfortable being on the same wagon as DR, yet never moved his vote off. Talks about how little resistance there is to mals lunch, does not get off it.

what do you think of damdred's questioning on tw about deadline? i think his questioning was quite good and that gave me the feeling damdred was actually looking into the game at deadline. but damdred had a lot of posts saying how he disliked eden, thats true.
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
March 20 2017 14:51 GMT
#1498
Xatalos, are you always this agreeable? It's pinging me but I don't know if that's just your personality because I remember that you were pretty "go with the flow" in our scum chat as well.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
March 20 2017 14:53 GMT
#1499
On March 20 2017 23:38 AMG wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2017 23:28 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I mean like what about them you don't like.


He parks his vote on mal for being "suspect". Never elaborated on what that even meant. Does not even attempt to engage Mal in any questioning or conversation. Makes a case on why Eden might be better lynch, vote stays on mal, says he does not feel comfortable being on the same wagon as DR, yet never moved his vote off. Talks about how little resistance there is to mals lunch, does not get off it.


This is a total misrepresentation...

1) I specifically ask mal questions to his first post about not liking either mine or disformation wagon. He ignores this question, and I specifically point out that he is ignoring the question and should return to it. Mal never answers this question.

This facilitates a vote later on in the day, Rayn points out the same thing in a later post.

2) I make a case on why I do not like Eden, I do not believe I ever said that Eden is a better lynch? I'm unsure why looking for multiple scum in itself is scummy.

3) Half the thread was nervous about how little resistance the lynch was getting at that point.

4) I said the only person who I did not feel comfortable with on the wagon was DF, and I listed the reasoning why I did not have a town read on DF. He explained himself and we had a sort of argument and I ended up townreading him.

And really there were three options for the lynch, I hard townread Rayn all of yesterday. I wasn't going to vote for myself unless rayn woudl apologize to me for the way he treated me yesterday which was still utter shit btw rayn and I really should get an apology for being ignored and treated like a complete idiot when we agreed on so much shit in the thread (besides scum read on me).

That leaves me in a world where the most likely solution was to lynch a scum read in Mal. And I did just that, he turned out to be town that didn't care.

Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 20 2017 14:54 GMT
#1500
Sorry Calix. Put my vote on Eden. I kind of think disfo would try to look as "clean" as possible, and/or strongly push an alternative lynch right now as scum. But he's just posting weird gibberish and doing his own thing with a lot of effort. Feels like he deserves more time.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
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