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On March 20 2017 22:25 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Like the thing townies do when someone claims is:
- They consider all possibilities and look at the night kill and see what makes sense.
What Xatalos does:
- "At least this kill makes the all vanilla setup less likely."
- "I think there is a blue out there" (with onegu)
- "wow rayn didn't say who he jailed" (why the fuck would i, it doesn't help the town at all)
- "As scum, he would know the setup. If there is no true JK, he can claim being roleblocked and push his agenda freely until LYLO." (DOES ANYONE SEE ANY PROBLEM WITH THIS???)
- "Now this is an all vanilla setup and rayn claimed to idk what reason but it makes totes sense!!!"
Doesn't even try to figure out what it means if i am town. Never. Just "here is why he is scum" -> "no it doesn't make sense, well here is a new scenario why he is scum" -> "no it doesn't make sense... [contunue]" while thinking there is another power role out there!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
scummyscumscum
I haven't said I think there is a power role out there. Statistically it's more likely, but not certain.
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If there is a vigilante who shot ritoky they should always claim because then i have 100% blocked mafia KP.
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On March 20 2017 22:27 Xatalos wrote:Show nested quote +On March 20 2017 22:25 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Like the thing townies do when someone claims is:
- They consider all possibilities and look at the night kill and see what makes sense.
What Xatalos does:
- "At least this kill makes the all vanilla setup less likely."
- "I think there is a blue out there" (with onegu)
- "wow rayn didn't say who he jailed" (why the fuck would i, it doesn't help the town at all)
- "As scum, he would know the setup. If there is no true JK, he can claim being roleblocked and push his agenda freely until LYLO." (DOES ANYONE SEE ANY PROBLEM WITH THIS???)
- "Now this is an all vanilla setup and rayn claimed to idk what reason but it makes totes sense!!!"
Doesn't even try to figure out what it means if i am town. Never. Just "here is why he is scum" -> "no it doesn't make sense, well here is a new scenario why he is scum" -> "no it doesn't make sense... [contunue]" while thinking there is another power role out there!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
scummyscumscum I haven't said I think there is a power role out there. Statistically it's more likely, but not certain.
I thought it was statistically 5% that i am a power role so i guess the rest of 95% is all vanilla setup no?
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On March 20 2017 22:27 Calix wrote:
I don't get how you spend more time calling rayn mafia than you do looking at, I dunno, disformation or Tweedledumb or any of your town-reads and asking them questions.
It's a massive waste of time on someone who is extremely likely town even though you think someone else claimed blue ???
You're not making any sense and it's just a bunch of crap.
As for rayn, I'd still like the explanation for why those posts = mafia disformation.
I guess I should let it slide for today already. It gets harder to resist every time rayn appears in the thread though.
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You're so fucking mafia it hurts.
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On March 20 2017 22:29 Xatalos wrote:Show nested quote +On March 20 2017 22:27 Calix wrote:
I don't get how you spend more time calling rayn mafia than you do looking at, I dunno, disformation or Tweedledumb or any of your town-reads and asking them questions.
It's a massive waste of time on someone who is extremely likely town even though you think someone else claimed blue ???
You're not making any sense and it's just a bunch of crap.
As for rayn, I'd still like the explanation for why those posts = mafia disformation. I guess I should let it slide for today already. It gets harder to resist every time rayn appears in the thread though.
Legit question. When was the last time that you took your own initiative and scum-hunted?
Yes, this question makes me a hypocrite but I don't care. Put a sock in it about how rayn's mafia in these implausible scenarios which are based on NOTHING and start talking about actual people, God.
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On March 20 2017 22:28 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On March 20 2017 22:27 Xatalos wrote:On March 20 2017 22:25 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Like the thing townies do when someone claims is:
- They consider all possibilities and look at the night kill and see what makes sense.
What Xatalos does:
- "At least this kill makes the all vanilla setup less likely."
- "I think there is a blue out there" (with onegu)
- "wow rayn didn't say who he jailed" (why the fuck would i, it doesn't help the town at all)
- "As scum, he would know the setup. If there is no true JK, he can claim being roleblocked and push his agenda freely until LYLO." (DOES ANYONE SEE ANY PROBLEM WITH THIS???)
- "Now this is an all vanilla setup and rayn claimed to idk what reason but it makes totes sense!!!"
Doesn't even try to figure out what it means if i am town. Never. Just "here is why he is scum" -> "no it doesn't make sense, well here is a new scenario why he is scum" -> "no it doesn't make sense... [contunue]" while thinking there is another power role out there!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
scummyscumscum I haven't said I think there is a power role out there. Statistically it's more likely, but not certain. I thought it was statistically 5% that i am a power role so i guess the rest of 95% is all vanilla setup no?
1) You had around 5% chance of rolling JK, 30% scum, and I would scumread you without the claim, so the chance of being scum isn't "extremely low".
2) I said there is a claim-like post in the thread. I didn't say I believed it was from a blue necessarily.
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On March 20 2017 22:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:
You're so fucking mafia it hurts.
OK, stop trying to convince the mafia hes mafia. You're growing this thread faster than I can read it.
Explain to me slowly, as if i were a little child, why he is mafia, preferably not using the most recent claim situation... since I have not caught up to the part where people are claiming.
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On March 20 2017 22:31 Calix wrote:Show nested quote +On March 20 2017 22:29 Xatalos wrote:On March 20 2017 22:27 Calix wrote:
I don't get how you spend more time calling rayn mafia than you do looking at, I dunno, disformation or Tweedledumb or any of your town-reads and asking them questions.
It's a massive waste of time on someone who is extremely likely town even though you think someone else claimed blue ???
You're not making any sense and it's just a bunch of crap.
As for rayn, I'd still like the explanation for why those posts = mafia disformation. I guess I should let it slide for today already. It gets harder to resist every time rayn appears in the thread though. Legit question. When was the last time that you took your own initiative and scum-hunted? Yes, this question makes me a hypocrite but I don't care. Put a sock in it about how rayn's mafia in these implausible scenarios which are based on NOTHING and start talking about actual people, God.
rayn would get offended if he's not even an actual person 
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As for rayn, I'd still like the explanation for why those posts = mafia disformation.
It depends of if he is talking about the night kill or the pre-emptive daypost.
If it's the former he is always mafia because he thought ritoky's case was super good and Eden is scummy so there should be no "wow why did mafia shoot ritoky????", never.
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On March 20 2017 22:32 Xatalos wrote:Show nested quote +On March 20 2017 22:31 Calix wrote:On March 20 2017 22:29 Xatalos wrote:On March 20 2017 22:27 Calix wrote:
I don't get how you spend more time calling rayn mafia than you do looking at, I dunno, disformation or Tweedledumb or any of your town-reads and asking them questions.
It's a massive waste of time on someone who is extremely likely town even though you think someone else claimed blue ???
You're not making any sense and it's just a bunch of crap.
As for rayn, I'd still like the explanation for why those posts = mafia disformation. I guess I should let it slide for today already. It gets harder to resist every time rayn appears in the thread though. Legit question. When was the last time that you took your own initiative and scum-hunted? Yes, this question makes me a hypocrite but I don't care. Put a sock in it about how rayn's mafia in these implausible scenarios which are based on NOTHING and start talking about actual people, God. rayn would get offended if he's not even an actual person
I carefully considered your suggestion that clogging up the chat with speculative claim wankery counts as 'scum-hunting' and then laughed and chucked it in the shredder.
Do something else please instead of being glib about your current anti-town behaviour 
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On March 20 2017 22:36 Calix wrote:Show nested quote +On March 20 2017 22:32 Xatalos wrote:On March 20 2017 22:31 Calix wrote:On March 20 2017 22:29 Xatalos wrote:On March 20 2017 22:27 Calix wrote:
I don't get how you spend more time calling rayn mafia than you do looking at, I dunno, disformation or Tweedledumb or any of your town-reads and asking them questions.
It's a massive waste of time on someone who is extremely likely town even though you think someone else claimed blue ???
You're not making any sense and it's just a bunch of crap.
As for rayn, I'd still like the explanation for why those posts = mafia disformation. I guess I should let it slide for today already. It gets harder to resist every time rayn appears in the thread though. Legit question. When was the last time that you took your own initiative and scum-hunted? Yes, this question makes me a hypocrite but I don't care. Put a sock in it about how rayn's mafia in these implausible scenarios which are based on NOTHING and start talking about actual people, God. rayn would get offended if he's not even an actual person I carefully considered your suggestion that clogging up the chat with speculative claim wankery counts as 'scum-hunting' and then laughed and chucked it in the shredder. Do something else please instead of being glib about your current anti-town behaviour
I don't see how it's anti-town to consider all options in the situation. It's a bit hard to read filters while on my phone so I focused on the main event.
POE points to the current wagon situation being good anyway. We'll have to see what AMG does and maybe reconsider then.
For the record, I think this claim-thingy has been vastly more important than yesterday's disfo-confusion.
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On March 20 2017 22:33 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +As for rayn, I'd still like the explanation for why those posts = mafia disformation. It depends of if he is talking about the night kill or the pre-emptive daypost. If it's the former he is always mafia because he thought ritoky's case was super good and Eden is scummy so there should be no "wow why did mafia shoot ritoky????", never.
I'm pretty sure he was talking about the kill because someone saying "wait what, didn't see that one coming O.o" about the resolution period while ignoring the kill doesn't make much sense.
But I don't think it makes him 100% mafia since there were a lot of people, myself included, who thought ritoky's post was good and that Eden was scummy and were still surprised that ritoky died.
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I don't see how it's anti-town to consider all options in the situation.
It's not, except you're not considering all possibilities, you're only considering possibilities where i am mafia.
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On March 20 2017 22:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:It's not, except you're not considering all possibilities, you're only considering possibilities where i am mafia.
Am I voting for you in your reality?
Or listing you as a lynch candidate for that matter?
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Calix, i want your opinion on this :
Assume the following scenarios:
1) rayn = mafia, Eden = mafia
2) rayn = mafia, Eden = town
Why does rayn kill ritoky? Why does rayn claim JK?
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On March 20 2017 22:43 Xatalos wrote:Show nested quote +On March 20 2017 22:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:I don't see how it's anti-town to consider all options in the situation. It's not, except you're not considering all possibilities, you're only considering possibilities where i am mafia. Am I voting for you in your reality? Or listing you as a lynch candidate for that matter?
What a fucking comment once again....
I will counter with this:
Am i considering Malongo mafia?
Do i consider Damdred as lynch target rn?
You can't be fucking serious?!?!?!?
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On March 20 2017 22:45 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On March 20 2017 22:43 Xatalos wrote:On March 20 2017 22:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:I don't see how it's anti-town to consider all options in the situation. It's not, except you're not considering all possibilities, you're only considering possibilities where i am mafia. Am I voting for you in your reality? Or listing you as a lynch candidate for that matter? What a fucking comment once again.... I will counter with this: Am i considering Malongo mafia? Do i consider Damdred as lynch target rn? You can't be fucking serious?!?!?!?
Did you miss where I said that you're more likely town than several others in the game? It's not like I'd shoot YOU if I had a gun. Just considering the chances of you being scum.
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You literally only EVEN CONSIDERED i am town after half of the game told you you're being very very terrible.
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On March 20 2017 22:48 Xatalos wrote:Show nested quote +On March 20 2017 22:45 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 20 2017 22:43 Xatalos wrote:On March 20 2017 22:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:I don't see how it's anti-town to consider all options in the situation. It's not, except you're not considering all possibilities, you're only considering possibilities where i am mafia. Am I voting for you in your reality? Or listing you as a lynch candidate for that matter? What a fucking comment once again.... I will counter with this: Am i considering Malongo mafia? Do i consider Damdred as lynch target rn? You can't be fucking serious?!?!?!? Did you miss where I said that you're more likely town than several others in the game? It's not like I'd shoot YOU if I had a gun. Just considering the chances of you being scum.
If you're a vigilante you better claim now because if you're not i will call you mafia for the rest of the game regardless of what happens.
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